[Surly Official] Year One expectations for Steve Sarkisian

[Elmer_Fudd 23,036]

3 minutes ago, Texas Flood said:

Schedule is tougher than I thought. A Billy Napier team out the gate and at Arkansas are traps.

Be interesting to see if all the Srs on that Napier team return.

[General Specific 3,508]

I’m already bitching. Sark has been here ~24 hrs, and no points???? I don’t care if he is still corching the big game! Excuses, excuses, excuses....

[General Specific 3,508]

Cake is baked. 
Cut the cake. 
Serve the cake. 

[BB65 489]

Win all games other than 0u. Give 0u their most competitive games of the season. That would be an 11-2 regular season and ccg.  Blow out the NY6  bowl game opponent. 

[babysdaddy 2,731]

I’m buying season tickets because we are going undefeated. Sack up pussies, Sark after dark!

[DFW Horn 6,671]

30 minutes ago, Texas Flood said:

Schedule is tougher than I thought. A Billy Napier team out the gate and at Arkansas are traps.

Rice is the only gimme OOC.

Sark is gonna need to go 3-0 for me to start drinking the Kool-Aid.

Edited January 3, 2021 by DFW Horn

[gmr548 16,704]

Schedule is tougher than I thought. A Billy Napier team out the gate and at Arkansas are traps.

ULL is tougher than your average cupcake for sure. Probably not what Texas had in mind when scheduling. No idea what they lose though. Arkansas is worth mentioning but I’m honestly not terribly concerned. They made some progress this year but they started at rock bottom and have only been able to bring in a couple decent recruiting classes. They’re still going to be a year or or two away from being really competitive. Honestly of all those games Arkansas is definitely the one that losing would be the worst look.

[Wanker Bob 379]

1 hour ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Only thing I've seen regarding numbers is from Bobby this morning:

 

Wow that's stupid. He's a substance abuser who flamed out and wasnt that great before the flame out who is riding the coat tails as the assistant to the best coach in college football history. That guy needs to prove himself and should come at a significant bargain price to do so. 

[Wanker Bob 379]

1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

Four of the six toughest games are on the road next year - TCU, ISU, WVU, and Arkansas - and of course OU is in Dallas. Only OSU at home. 4-2 in those (though if you beat OU relatively early in the conference schedule expectations start to change) and avoiding an embarrassing loss to the bottom half is a pretty good bar for success I think. That’s 10 regular season wins, almost certainly a trip to Arlington, and enough to sell hope to 2022/23 classes.

Eight wins or less and we done fucked up.

Funny thing is if this season was normal schedule Herman probably wins 9-10 games. He won 7 with only 1 OOC game and LSU is trash

[hookem48 4,857]

recruit/transfer in better olineman and hire a good oline coach, #1 of my list of expectations for his first year

[Guest Lobo]

Tom Herman would have won 10 games with a normal schedule?  What the fuck are y'all smoking?  He beats Kansas and our other non-conference game.  He doesn't make the conference title game and still wins his bowl game.  He loses @ LSU.  He goes 9-4.  That's it, end of story.  

[El Hornarino 377]

He should be in the conference championship game barring strange happenstances or bad injury luck.

[gmr548 16,704]

Funny thing is if this season was normal schedule Herman probably wins 9-10 games. He won 7 with only 1 OOC game and LSU is trash

Yeah this was probably a 10-3 team this year on a full schedule. But that’s underachieving given what the rest of the conference put out there. Specifically OU.

[Elmer_Fudd 23,036]

Let's hope we have spring practices.

[hookem48 4,857]

16 hours ago, texifornia said:

Pump the brakes on the Alamo hype. The Pac-12 is aaaassssss

Colorado made our oline look top notch, look no further for evidence that the Alamo Bowl doesn't mean jack shit

[texifornia 59,084]

24 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Tom Herman would have won 10 games with a normal schedule?  What the fuck are y'all smoking?  He beats Kansas and our other non-conference game.  He doesn't make the conference title game and still wins his bowl game.  He loses @ LSU.  He goes 9-4.  That's it, end of story.  

Wanker Bob is a pure troll. I have no idea where his rep comes from.

[hookem48 4,857]

16 hours ago, nunna yo bizness said:

Yes, I know the PAC sucks.  I don't expect to beat every team we play by 35 points, nor do we need to.  I also didn't say to win the playoffs, just make it.  We saw enough this season though, especially the last couple games, to know that with the right coaches we should be able to win the Big12 with at worst one loss and possibly none.  Our three nonconference oppenents are ass my dude next year too (ULALA, Arky, and Rice) so there's no excuse not to win at least 2 and should be all three of them.  Do those things and we're in the playoffs.  No doubt in my mind UM could win the Big12 next year and run that noncon schedule.  I won't lower my expectations to benefit an underwhelming hire.

anyone looking at the last two games as evidence of anything should stop doing that

[hookem48 4,857]

after reading the whole thread there's only one conclusion, Sark is fucked.

[Wanker Bob 379]

37 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Yeah this was probably a 10-3 team this year on a full schedule. But that’s underachieving given what the rest of the conference put out there. Specifically OU.

But yet most of you are willing to accept that from the new guy? you could have gotten that from the old one and saved 25 million dollars. 

I think all of you just want to change for the sake of change. When continuity, especially with a young and inexperienced coaching staff, is what allows for development. 

[Wanker Bob 379]

7 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

after reading the whole thread there's only one conclusion, Sark is fucked.

Indeed. He has a puncher's chance with that quarterback to really win big but the fan base and administration are too inept and toxic to allow for any development

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

13 minutes ago, Wanker Bob said:

Indeed. He has a puncher's chance with that quarterback to really win big but the fan base and administration are too inept and toxic to allow for any development

Your ass is showing aggy

[Wanker Bob 379]

I've never seen an aggy. I just really enjoy seeing such hubris and arrogance while repeatedly punching yourself in the face. It's humorous and amusing

[USNALonghorn 5,198]

Hard W-L criteria and guaranteed wins against your (talent stacked) primary rival are not the best indicators of future success. Player injuries, unforeseen circumstances, bad luck, etc. can skew these outcomes. What matters is the process.

-Hire/retain a competent staff, especially on defense/ST.

-Get on the recruiting trail and set us up for a top 10 class in 2022.

-Eliminate idiotic penalties and dumb play on the field.

-No blowout losses.

-Place the best players on the field and play to win until game clock expires, or you’re up 5 TDs.

-Emphasize the importance of the RRS and conference championship games.

If he hits these wickets, the rest will sort itself out.

[Tex Pete 21,521]

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

Tom Herman would have won 10 games with a normal schedule?  What the fuck are y'all smoking?  He beats Kansas and our other non-conference game.  He doesn't make the conference title game and still wins his bowl game.  He loses @ LSU.  He goes 9-4.  That's it, end of story.  

He wouldn’t have lost at LSU this year. That’s fucking stupid. 

[Guest Lobo]

Well he ain’t the coach and we ain’t playing LSU so who gives a shit?   Was just commenting to a previous post about how we might have done in another life.  Who cares?  The toxic piece of shit Herman is gone forever.  Hope Sarkisian does well

Edited January 3, 2021 by Lobo

[gmr548 16,704]

But yet most of you are willing to accept that from the new guy? you could have gotten that from the old one and saved 25 million dollars. 
I think all of you just want to change for the sake of change. When continuity, especially with a young and inexperienced coaching staff, is what allows for development. 

I don’t think 10-3 would be underachieving next year given what Texas and the rest of the conference brings back. The team obviously underachieved the past two seasons, the development you mention was essentially nonexistent on one side of the ball, and recruiting was drying up.

[Hurtlocker 2,219]

46 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

 What matters is the process.

-Hire/retain a competent staff, especially on defense/ST.

-Get on the recruiting trail and set us up for a top 10 class in 2022.

-Eliminate idiotic penalties and dumb play on the field.

 

Stolen and shortened up.   Herman got the can because the top recruits were headed the wrong direction.   That's job one.   Job two is fucking coach them.

[Shaggybevo 353]

Beat TCU.

[bullet 1,631]

Realistic is 8-4, 3rd place in Big 12 and win the Alamo Bowl, top 10 recruiting class, beat OU and A&M in Texas recruiting.  Get one of the top two players in Texas and 2 or 3 of the top 10.

Now if it were a good coach instead of Sark, I would say realistic is 9-3 and at least appear in the Big 12 title game and get 3 of the top 10 in Texas recruiting.  But we have the 2nd coming of Mackovic.

If Alabama's offense sputters against Ohio St., it that soon enough to start a fire Sark thread?

[bullet 1,631]

20 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I watched Sark for 5 years at UDub.  He always seemed to beat U$C and lose by 30 to Arizona.  

So I'm pretty confident that he'll beat OU, but K-State will kick the shit out of us.

Why I don't have very high "realistic" expectations.  We traded an Akers or Hermann for a Mackovic.

[William_Cannon 86]

1. Hire excellent staff.
2. Increase the percentage of 4/5 star signees. Land 1 to 2 top talent at skill positions.
3. Win the games you are supposed to win by the expected margins. No blowout losses.


Fail to do number 1, both Sark and CDC will be gone in 3 or 4.

[bullet 1,631]

1 hour ago, Hurtlocker said:

Stolen and shortened up.   Herman got the can because the top recruits were headed the wrong direction.   That's job one.   Job two is fucking coach them.

We have to understand why.  Was it because of all the rumors from the beginning of the season that he was gone at the end?  We got soundly whipped in Texas recruiting by OU this year.  That hasn't happened in a while.  OU whipped Jimbo as well.  Or was it simply because we weren't winning titles?

How do you fix either of those when Sark is going to Sark and Texas BMDs are going to Texas BMD?

Or was recruiting simply a problem with Hermann's process or simply Hermann's process under Covid?  He's not the type of coach who will get a TV job while he's on our payroll like Mack did.  He is pretty boring on LHN.  So I can't imagine recruiting by Zoom was his strong point.

[immamac 44,422]

Stay on topic. There is a sark after dark or bust catchall thread. 

[WBT 21,001]

2 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

He wouldn’t have lost at LSU this year. That’s fucking stupid. 

Yes, LSU was clearly worse than 2017-2018 Maryland.  Or 2020 Tech and TCU.  It would have been a 1 score game and a coin flip as to who won it.

Edited January 3, 2021 by WBT

[HornyPony69 212]

Run QB Kneel from behind center instead of shotgun. That’s it. 

[Mdhorn 6,166]

If Sark doesn't like the high expectations, he shouldn't have taken the $$.  He did knowing what they were.  Just win dammit. 

[hookem48 4,857]

5 hours ago, Texas Flood said:

Schedule is tougher than I thought. A Billy Napier team out the gate and at Arkansas are traps.

we just fired our coach, there should be no thought of trap games

[bullet 1,631]

17 hours ago, Js1 said:

Gotta do 1 and 2 more than 25% of the time. Which means not losing to TCU and ISU as well. 

TCU and ISU have the best coaches in the conference.  At least Snyder is finally retired.

[Alien Octopus 666]

6 hours ago, ztejas said:

Can we please not tell 17 year old recruits that may still come here to fuck off? Ewers doesn't owe you shit. 

He is rocking with his boys in Ohio. His own words.

[bullet 1,631]

16 hours ago, orangecat92 said:

1. Hire a great staff

2.  Keep the foot on the gas

3.  Play as many young players as u can.  

4.  Have fun, and let players see u having fun.

Do these things and they result in the following:

a. Team chemistry, playing for each other and the coach

b.  Kicking ass of all teams with less talent, just guessing 7-9 teams?

c. Competitive game with OU

d. A never give up attitude among players, which results in very low numbers of opt outs.

If he does these four things to the highest degree possible, I don’t care if he wins 7 games or more.  Win 6 and to me that means he failed at one of the objectives.

 

There's a lot of bs on this board (not picking on this post in particular).  But this year's team never gave up.  It was 2005-2009 and pre McWilliams type never give up attitude.  Hermann had this team believing they could win every game no matter what the score was.  That was lacking from the mid 80s until 2005 and from 2010 until this year.

[Texas Flood 1,386]

18 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

we just fired our coach, there should be no thought of trap games

[utee94 16,091]

14 minutes ago, bullet said:

TCU and ISU have the best coaches in the conference.  At least Snyder is finally retired.

OU has the best coach in the conferemce, but even if you're right, it doesn't change the expectation that Texas should be consistently beating the best coaches in the conference.  Every single year.

This thread is about expectations.  Those are the expectations.  If those are not "realistic expectations" then we hired the wrong guy.

[NashLonghorn 298]

23 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Beat OU.

Make it to the Big 12 championship game.

Those should be the expectations for any coach, every year.

I never believed that Texas Basketball would be closer to performing the daily double before football this past 10 years.  Last time football did it was 2009.  

[MrBig 5,653]

How about we actually go 1-0 the first two years? The 1-0 LLC Culture bullshit is dead when you lose the first two games of each season to fucking Maryland.

1-0 like you mean it. Winning is not really really hard. Just win, baby. 

No excuses, no blaming the message boards. Go out there and put the ball in the hands of the best players. 

[hookem48 4,857]

45 minutes ago, Texas Flood said:

not sure what you're laughing at, we've played to the level of competition for four years, there's no trap games

[Longboard Horn 41,408]

 

[FOXHOUND 1,182]

As long as he doesn't lock Bijan in a cellar for four consecutive drives I'd be happy. 

[alphahorn 1,637]

Big 12 title. we may split with ou, but we win the one that matters

[dcar00 15,003]

12 hours ago, Lobo said:

Tom Herman would have won 10 games with a normal schedule?  What the fuck are y'all smoking?  He beats Kansas and our other non-conference game.  He doesn't make the conference title game and still wins his bowl game.  He loses @ LSU.  He goes 9-4.  That's it, end of story.  

LSU was a disaster early in the year.  we would have beat LSU.  He would have gone 10-3.  He can't beat Riley, Patterson, and is a coin flip against Gundy and Campbell.

Arkansas has a decent staff but Sark needs to pound ULL and beat Ark with this roster and with the portal he can improve his roster if he is the witch everyone says he is.

[deech 2,403]