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On 6/4/2021 at 10:20 AM, PittsburghTiger said:

I'm certainly glad our boys won last night but, it just doesn't seem like this coach has any idea of things.

A couple things really bother me about U.S. Soccer. The first is our passing always goes to a guy standing still. The second is our first touches when receiving said passes always seems bad. Also, so often our guy on the ball gets run up on from behind, and nobody seems to be yelling to him that someone is barreling down on him. So many of those free kicks last night were garbage.

Sunday will be tough.

So increase our skill and yell more?

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Forget who asked what was on CP10's undershirt:  

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To be fair to Lalas, almost all of the Mexican fans at the game live in the United States and some are Americans.  It's almost impossible to overstate the insecurity of the average Mexican soccer fan

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welp, i just learned something new, had no idea this was going on.....  the tri fanbase in the us getting SJW-ed after 25 years of bitchassedness is comedy goald

https://www.outsports.com/2021/6/3/22518189/usmt-usa-mexico-soccer-concacaf-final-puto-gay-slur-denver

The United States Men’s National Team will face Mexico in the CONCACAF Nation’s League final on Sunday. Many people will be waiting to see how officials handle Mexico fans chanting the gay slur “puto.”

On Thursday, the match between Mexico and Costa Rica — won by Mexico on penalty kicks, 5-4 — was halted because Mexico fans couldn’t resist raining the gay slur down on Empower Field at Mile High in Denver. The referee waited until the final minutes of the match to tack action.

CONCACAF Nations League tweeted:

Officials also halted a Mexico friendly against Iceland on May 29 when fans echoed the gay slur through AT&T Stadiu. You can see that here.

The match on Sunday will be a real test for CONCACAF, FIFA, venue staff at Empower Field at Mile High, the game officials and everyone else associated with the match. FIFA has made it clear that the chanting of the slur will not be tolerated and has laid out a three-step process to address the situation. Mexican soccer officials have tried to stop Mexico fans from using the slur.

So far the fans have not relented.

On top of the international soccer rules, the match will take place in Denver, Colo., where non-discrimination laws are clear and powerful. Colorado law on “Discrimination in Places of Public Accommodation” states:

"It is a discriminatory practice and unlawful . . . to refuse, withhold from, or deny to an individual or a group, because of . . . sex [or] sexual orientation . . . the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation."

There is no doubt that the location of the match is a “place of public accommodation” — the state owns the stadium — and thus subject to the law. Beyond FIFA rules, it will be unlawful for the match to be held when groups of fans are chanting gay slurs.

Colorado law mandates that the chanting of the slur result in the match being halted. If it continues, more drastic measures like the clearing of the stadium or the abandoning of the match are mandated by law to be explored.

Instead of waiting until the final minutes of Sunday Mexico vs. United States match, this should be addressed before halftime if it creeps into the game, or as soon as it happens.

While some people push back against the notion that calling someone a “male prostitute” (English translation for “puto”) is anti-gay, that ship has sailed long ago. Most recently, Major League Soccer fined and suspended USMNT player Sebastian Lletget for directing the slur toward a teammate in a private setting (and then sharing it on Instagram).

Lletget nearly scored a goal for the United States’ in its semifinal win over Honduras on Thursday and should be on the pitch for Sunday’s match.

Sunday’s Mexico-USA match will be a seminal moment on whether international soccer is willing to take the handling of the “puto” chant to the next level, beyond brief pauses in a match.

According to FIFA rules, after other attempts to stop the chant, the referee has the ability to abandon the match. At this point, given this has been going on for so many years, and given the Colorado state law, CONCACAF really has no other option.

How seriously FIFA and CONCACAF are taking homophobia hangs in the balance.

This all comes to a head on Sunday.

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2 hours ago, ztejas said:

Tonight's game is at 8 CST on CBSSN and Paramount+.

Sucks that it conflicts with Texas' 3rd regional game this evening.

If you're really on CST, that works out well for you then.  That means your soccer match starts at 7:00p here in Texas and will be over by 9:00p when UT heads into the 4th inning against their regional opponent.  

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Yup 3 CBs with old man Ream. Kellyn Acosta at the '6'. Fuck it all.

Dest moves to the left and Yedlin comes in on the right. Still fuck it all.

 

Yedlin is not a CB. (or maybe you were including Ream in your 3 count - somewhat unclear)

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1 minute ago, UDontKnow said:

There are not 3 CBs? John Brooks, Tim Ream, and Mark McKenzie? Dest and Yedlin are at L/RB, respectively.

You're right. We're playing 5 back. Which seems really fucking stupid but I guess we'll see how this plays out. 

Maybe he's playing Dest forward?

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1 minute ago, RamjetFDO said:

You can be casual with the ball against Honduras.

You cannot be casual against Mexico or any real competition.

Why is that so hard to understand?

That's beyond being casual with the ball. That's freezing up and making a horrific mistake. The fact that somehow guys like that get through into starting against fucking El Tri in a comp for us is embarassing. And I hope no one tells me something like "we don't have any better options" because we have 5 backs on the pitch right now. 

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That's beyond being casual with the ball.


For the most part I agree, but Steffen was pretty casual there a minute ago with the ball at his feet and almost paid for it, but ended up just kicking it out of touch instead.

Mo nailed it... there's an almost stubborn attachment to playing from the back, even in the face of high pressure from Mexico.
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