Heights/Garden Oaks/Oak Forest

[Storm the Field 5367]

3 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I understand Common Bond as a brunch destination. It seems very popular with the ladies. But what is the appeal of CB as a drive thru? 

Uhh, go get pastries and coffee without needing to get dressed or standing in line?

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

6 minutes ago, Storm the Field said:

Uhh, go get pastries and coffee without needing to get dressed or standing in line?

To each his own. 

[Js1 87216]

1 hour ago, Storm the Field said:

Uhh, go get pastries and coffee without needing to get dressed or standing in line?

God, if that was there when I lived in GOOF, I would have been bankrupt within a couple weeks. 

[GreenspointTexas 9987]

Ill never understand how there isnt a single legit coffee shop inside the loop that opens before 630

 

I dont need coffee at 3 or 4 pm. These motherfuckers should be opening at 6 and closing at like 2, instead of the bullshit 8-4 hours that most of em have

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

Common Bond locations between 6th and 34th Streets: 

6th and Heights (drive thru)

20th and Nicholson (sit down)

34th and Shepherd (drive thru) 

One every 14 blocks. Looks like oversaturation. But hey, what do I know? It’s their money. Best of luck.

Edited June 23, 2020 by billfromlaketravis

[Js1 87216]

53 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Ill never understand how there isnt a single legit coffee shop inside the loop that opens before 630

 

I dont need coffee at 3 or 4 pm. These motherfuckers should be opening at 6 and closing at like 2, instead of the bullshit 8-4 hours that most of em have

Yeah a lot of “open at 7” which fucks over the early to work crowd. 

[elfenix 34754]

How the hell did the Canes up there go out of business?

[tx 3 putt 78721]

4 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Ill never understand how there isnt a single legit coffee shop inside the loop that opens before 630

 

I dont need coffee at 3 or 4 pm. These motherfuckers should be opening at 6 and closing at like 2, instead of the bullshit 8-4 hours that most of em have

Thanks for not making me wait even longer for my afternoon coffee 

McDonald’s is open early, decent coffee 

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

Y’all have time to stop for coffee on the way to work?! Pre-Covid I was doing 60 on Kirby to make it in on time.

[patrickdrinksbeer 820]

How the hell did the Canes up there go out of business?

on ella? it didn’t go out of business. the carl jr’s next door to it did.

[elfenix 34754]

2 hours ago, patrickdrinksbeer said:

on ella? it didn’t go out of business. the carl jr’s next door to it did.

guess i wasn't paying that good attention when driving by

Edited June 24, 2020 by elfenix

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

Taqo on Yale is very good. Some friendly suggestions: 

- Order the Taco Trio on Tuesday, $10. Almost $6 for a beef fajita taco on other day is absurd. 

- They only have frozen margaritas right now, but they’re quite good for a frozen rita.     You can actually taste the tequila and triple sec.

- Hold the chipotle aioli, and ask for green and red sauce on the side. 

- They have various tortilla options, but their flour tortillas are elite. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

On 6/23/2020 at 11:23 PM, elfenix said:

guess i wasn't paying that good attention when driving by

I tried to go to the drive-thru at Carl's one day profoundly hungover and there were too many similar loooking restaurants (all red and yellow) next to each other and I kept ending up in the wrong parking lot. Here's hoping there's a different-looking new addition to Ella's Trans Fat Alley. 

[tx 3 putt 78721]

Thanks for the heads up, I’ll try it on a Tuesday 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13740]

On 6/23/2020 at 4:39 PM, billfromlaketravis said:

Common Bond locations between 6th and 34th Streets: 

6th and Heights (drive thru)

20th and Nicholson (sit down)

34th and Shepherd (drive thru) 

One every 14 blocks. Looks like oversaturation. But hey, what do I know? It’s their money. Best of luck.

The future location on 34th and Shepherd is on the wrong side of the road. In the morning more people are driving south on Shepherd not north. It's going to be pain to stop at a place on the east side of shepherd and then get back to driving south.  I realize the Chase branch probably wasn't an option to buy out but why plan to start a coffee shop on the wrong side of the road.

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

32 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The future location on 34th and Shepherd is on the wrong side of the road. In the morning more people are driving south on Shepherd not north. It's going to be pain to stop at a place on the east side of shepherd and then get back to driving south.  I realize the Chase branch probably wasn't an option to buy out but why plan to start a coffee shop on the wrong side of the road.

Agreed. People living between Yale and Shepherd, north of I 10 should have pretty easy access via 34th Street, but that’s it. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13740]

I've probably complained about this somewhere in this thread but I'm going to bitch about it again.  I'm skeptical about this plan to change Shepherd and Durham from 4 to 3 lanes between I-10 and 610.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/transportation/article/bike-lanes-shepherd-durham-rebuild-40-million-15377889.php

I'm not opposed to making the area more walking and bike friendly but at the expense of vehicle congestion? There has to be a better option than telling drivers to f-off. TXDOT shows 18,000 daily vehicles on each road back in 2016. Lord knows what it is today. And how many more people are projected to move to the Heights with all of the new apartments going up?

Here is the future of Shepherd: People in the left lane slowing down to take a left. People in the right lane slowing down to take a right. And the middle lane backed up a mile for people attempting to get to 610. What a cluster it will be.  The current 4 lanes makes it bearable.

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I've probably complained about this somewhere in this thread but I'm going to bitch about it again.  I'm skeptical about this plan to change Shepherd and Durham from 4 to 3 lanes between I-10 and 610.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/transportation/article/bike-lanes-shepherd-durham-rebuild-40-million-15377889.php

I'm not opposed to making the area more walking and bike friendly but at the expense of vehicle congestion? There has to be a better option than telling drivers to f-off. TXDOT shows 18,000 daily vehicles on each road back in 2016. Lord knows what it is today. And how many more people are projected to move to the Heights with all of the new apartments going up?

Here is the future of Shepherd: People in the left lane slowing down to take a left. People in the right lane slowing down to take a right. And the middle lane backed up a mile for people attempting to get to 610. What a cluster it will be.  The current 4 lanes makes it bearable.

I honestly think the only reason they're doing it because they received free federal money. Sure we'll fix you roads, but you have to put in a bike lane. Sold!

[riloh05 107]

18 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I've probably complained about this somewhere in this thread but I'm going to bitch about it again.  I'm skeptical about this plan to change Shepherd and Durham from 4 to 3 lanes between I-10 and 610.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/transportation/article/bike-lanes-shepherd-durham-rebuild-40-million-15377889.php

I'm not opposed to making the area more walking and bike friendly but at the expense of vehicle congestion? There has to be a better option than telling drivers to f-off. TXDOT shows 18,000 daily vehicles on each road back in 2016. Lord knows what it is today. And how many more people are projected to move to the Heights with all of the new apartments going up?

Here is the future of Shepherd: People in the left lane slowing down to take a left. People in the right lane slowing down to take a right. And the middle lane backed up a mile for people attempting to get to 610. What a cluster it will be.  The current 4 lanes makes it bearable.

the goofs traffic congestion issues...then potential construction are one of the top reasons we steered over to spring branch/memorial- north of i-10 south of westview. it just seems less congested over there.

Edited July 22, 2020 by riloh05

[Nice Guy Eddie 13740]

4 minutes ago, riloh05 said:

the goofs traffic congestion issues...then potential construction are one of the top reasons we steered over to spring branch/memorial- north of i-10 south of westview. it just seems less congested over there.

Shepherd will be a very pretty street once this is over. When there are no cars on at 5am. That is a tight cross section of a busy street. The tree zone is taking a lane away fro the drivers.

I may be more afraid of the construction phase as it sounds like they're going to tear up the entire street to improve drainage and sewers. Perhaps all of this is necessary but it make me think about moving to another part of town.

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

Do they have a hard date to start construction? I've been eyeing a move downtown for a few years. 

[GreenspointTexas 9987]

2 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Do they have a hard date to start construction? I've been eyeing a move downtown for a few years. 

2022 last i read 

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

1 minute ago, GreenspointTexas said:

2022 last i read 

There should be enough to make a calculated decision by then. Given the current circumstances, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they pushed it back a few years 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13740]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Do they have a hard date to start construction? I've been eyeing a move downtown for a few years. 

I haven't been able to find solid plans but I believe 15th-610 is Phase 1 scheduled for 2022.  And I-10 to 15th is Phase 2 in 2024.   I can't tell if construction will extend into 2023 or 2025. My guess is that we will hear more as it gets closer.

 

[gmr548 16702]

I've probably complained about this somewhere in this thread but I'm going to bitch about it again.  I'm skeptical about this plan to change Shepherd and Durham from 4 to 3 lanes between I-10 and 610.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/transportation/article/bike-lanes-shepherd-durham-rebuild-40-million-15377889.php
I'm not opposed to making the area more walking and bike friendly but at the expense of vehicle congestion? There has to be a better option than telling drivers to f-off. TXDOT shows 18,000 daily vehicles on each road back in 2016. Lord knows what it is today. And how many more people are projected to move to the Heights with all of the new apartments going up?
Here is the future of Shepherd: People in the left lane slowing down to take a left. People in the right lane slowing down to take a right. And the middle lane backed up a mile for people attempting to get to 610. What a cluster it will be.  The current 4 lanes makes it bearable.

More lanes just means more cars. The improvements are needed and it's pretty well documented that reducing traffic lanes doesn't have a negative impact on traffic, because people adjust their behavior. You'll have some that take advantage of improved transit/bike/pedestrian infrastructure on the corridor, some re-time their trips, and some just avoid the area.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13740]

1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

 

 

More lanes just means more cars. The improvements are needed and it's pretty well documented that reducing traffic lanes doesn't have a negative impact on traffic, because people adjust their behavior. You'll have some that take advantage of improved transit/bike/pedestrian infrastructure on the corridor, some re-time their trips, and some just avoid the area.

 

I don’t know  if I buy that people will drastically adjust their commutes because the route is longer in time now. I agree people will wake up earlier so they can be at work on time. Get home later.  But just saying it’s well documented that reducing shepherd lanes will reduce vehicle seems like a stretch.

i also question how many people will use the bike lanes. Let’s go with 100-200 per day.  It’s walkable right now but I don’t see people out. Like I said, I agree it will be a prettier street with trees, wider sidewalks, bike lane. I don’t think you will see many bikes or walkers.

the whole move to build bike lanes seems to be that if you build it, they will come. There are plenty of bike lanes in Houston now, so I assume there must be evidence of its success or failure.  What’s the word on them?

[elfenix 34754]

bike lanes in houston generally suck decaying asshole. 

[gmr548 16702]

I don’t know  if I buy that people will drastically adjust their commutes because the route is longer in time now. I agree people will wake up earlier so they can be at work on time. Get home later.  But just saying it’s well documented that reducing shepherd lanes will reduce vehicle seems like a stretch.
i also question how many people will use the bike lanes. Let’s go with 100-200 per day.  It’s walkable right now but I don’t see people out. Like I said, I agree it will be a prettier street with trees, wider sidewalks, bike lane. I don’t think you will see many bikes or walkers.
the whole move to build bike lanes seems to be that if you build it, they will come. There are plenty of bike lanes in Houston now, so I assume there must be evidence of its success or failure.  What’s the word on them?

Google induced and reduced demand. It's a well established concept in transportation, backed by research. Killing an auto lane won't bring a traffic apocalypse.

I agree that the Shepherd/Durham corridor isn't going to become Manhattan in terms of walkability any time soon. Killing a traffic lane makes the built environment more pedestrian friendly but it doesn't change that it's lined by big box retail, auto shops, etc. The development in the area is suburban. You'd need to do a lot more than improve the sidewalks to really stimulate pedestrian activity.

The roads have no bike lanes at all and that would definitely add value/utility as there is some biking in the Heights. What I'd really want to see there is a BRT lane though. I think that coupled with a transit oriented development plan is the best way to maximize the potential of that corridor.

[mycox 587]

44 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Google induced and reduced demand. It's a well established concept in transportation, backed by research. Killing an auto lane won't bring a traffic apocalypse.

I agree with this. It's similar to some of the major streets that went from 2 lanes each way to 1 lane each way, but with a dedicated turn lane in the middle. Traffic still flows.

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

the whole move to build bike lanes seems to be that if you build it, they will come. There are plenty of bike lanes in Houston now, so I assume there must be evidence of its success or failure.  What’s the word on them?

You might see 100 riders a day on this route at most, but more bike lanes are needed. It's just not safe to bike around Houston on the major arteries. Bike lanes are relatively cheap to build and maintain.

[dbecks 442]

Wasn't sure where to post this, but RIP to a real one.  The Tall Texan was one of my favorite dive bars ever, and the first I regularly frequented when I moved to Houston a little over a decade ago.

 

https://houston.eater.com/2020/7/30/21348383/alices-tall-texan-houston-closed-permanently-august-2020

 

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Pour one out for a real one: Alice’s Tall Texan, the iconic Houston dive bar known for its massive and frosty chalices of beer, will close its doors at the end of next month.

The bar announced its permanent closure in a Facebook post on Thursday, blaming its departure on the coronavirus pandemic. “This damn Coronavirus has got us, and got us bad. We are deeply saddened to say Alice’s Tall Texan will close permanently at the end of August after 36 years in business,” the post reads. “There’s just too much working against us.

Ahead of its closure, Alice’s plans to go out with a bang selling to-go beer to deplete its inventory. The bar is set to open its doors on “select weekend days,” beginning on Friday, July 31 to sell singles, six-packs, and cases of beer. For folks who purchase a 6-pack or more, they’ll be able to memorialize Alice’s permanently with a chalice or beer mug from the bar.

Y’all are the reason we became known as a great dive bar, best place to drink if you’re broke, friendliest bars,” the bar wrote to its loyal patrons. “We are eternally grateful to have been a part of your lives including the countless celebrations or allowing us to lift you up when you were down.”

 

[SydneyCarton 49512]

[tx 3 putt 78721]

great place to grab a cold afternoon beer 

[dhornf 52]

Damn it. I wonder if they will sell me the wall paper. 

[SydneyCarton 49512]

I'm definitely going to get a couple goblets. Many a great time and a few sealed deals from that spot. Fuck. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

A reliable source tells me that rumors of the Tall Texan's demise might be greatly exaggerated. I wood not reveal this White Knight's identity but some of you might be able to cotton on to who it might be. 

[dbecks 442]

On 7/31/2020 at 2:29 PM, MaybeACoordinator said:

A reliable source tells me that rumors of the Tall Texan's demise might be greatly exaggerated. I wood not reveal this White Knight's identity but some of you might be able to cotton on to who it might be. 

Well, they were selling beer to go (and their goblets) like hot cakes yesterday, and I was lucky enough to finagle one myself.  Line was quite long when they opened up at 3:00; people were down the street, almost to the Shipley's headquarters.

Overheard Alice complaining the alcohol license was set to expire, and given that she's up there in age, not in the best of health, and a bit of a miser (in a charming way), it may not have been worth her $$$ to renew it for another year or two, given that she'd have no idea when they'd be able to reopen again.  I don't have much experience with the TABC license fees, but apparently they're not cheap, especially for an establishment that sells $3 beers.

And apparently they will be selling some of their signs & miscellaneous items - and maybe even their wallpaper - in a couple weeks via their Facebook page.

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

3 hours ago, dbecks said:

Well, they were selling beer to go (and their goblets) like hot cakes yesterday, and I was lucky enough to finagle one myself.  Line was quite long when they opened up at 3:00; people were down the street, almost to the Shipley's headquarters.

Overheard Alice complaining the alcohol license was set to expire, and given that she's up there in age, not in the best of health, and a bit of a miser (in a charming way), it may not have been worth her $$$ to renew it for another year or two, given that she'd have no idea when they'd be able to reopen again.  I don't have much experience with the TABC license fees, but apparently they're not cheap, especially for an establishment that sells $3 beers.

And apparently they will be selling some of their signs & miscellaneous items - and maybe even their wallpaper - in a couple weeks via their Facebook page.

Yeah my source told me later that same day the deal fell through due to some weirdness on their end. 

[Storm the Field 5367]

Burger Joint crew is opening up "The Taco Stand" right next door on the corner of 21st and Shepherd.

https://houston.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/08-21-20-taco-stand-new-restaurant-burger-joint-matthew-pak-shawn-bermudez-the-heights/#slide=0

Interesting move since there's a Velvet Taco that's supposed to be going into what used to be a Jack in the Box across the street, assuming that's still the planned tenant for that building. I've noticed they've finally been working on it the last few weeks.

 

[tx 3 putt 78721]

tip of the hat to anyone that hits balls at 5050 Acorn Driving Range, that place is a dump 

[Storm the Field 5367]

Noticed some work getting underway at what used to be Petrol. Crews there this week ripped up all the old decking and some of the crumbling fence around the back patio area. Off to a good start for new tenants. Make proper use of the spacious backyard, upgrade the bathrooms and kitchen and that place should be a hit.

[Storm the Field 5367]

New coffee and breakfast spot open in the hood. Luce Avenue Coffee Roasters soft opening yesterday at 34th and Ella. Coffee, pastries from local bakeries, and breakfast tacos from Tacos a Go Go.

Also, 8 Row Flint is back open for patio service starting today.

[DCA_HORN 725]

What's the deal with liberty kitchen? I've heard other locations are open but the heights location has been completely closed since covid started.

[Storm the Field 5367]

8 minutes ago, DCA_HORN said:

What's the deal with liberty kitchen? I've heard other locations are open but the heights location has been completely closed since covid started.

Liberty Kitchen’s three locations have been closed since the coronavirus pandemic began, and when they reopen soon, things might look a little different. Culinary Khancepts, the group behind State Fare Kitchen & Bar, announced they had purchased two locations — the Treehouse in Memorial City and Liberty Kitchen & Oysterette in River Oaks, with plans to repoen them very soon — August 7 for the Oysterette and August 14 for the Treehouse, according to a press release.

Menus at both locations will feature some Liberty Kitchen faves like gumbo, deviled eggs and impressive spreads of raw oysters, alongside new dishes focused on fresh produce and other fresh ingredients. The Liberty Kitchen location in the Heights will remained closed for now while current owners, F.E.E.D. TX Restaurant Group, drum up a new idea for the spot.

[Storm the Field 5367]

On 4/6/2020 at 5:52 PM, billfromlaketravis said:

It looks like we’re finally getting a proper deli. Katz’s is going in across the street from the Shepherd HEB.  

Opened yesterday.

[gmr548 16702]

Recs on a good mechanic in the area? Recently moved to Oak Forest, near 43rd and TC Jester.

 

Nothing major wrong with the car right now (knock on wood). Honda with 60k miles. Going to CO in a couple weeks so just want to get it checked pre-trip, and I'm due for an oil change so I'll take care of that too.

 

 

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

14 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Recs on a good mechanic in the area? Recently moved to Oak Forest, near 43rd and TC Jester.

 

Nothing major wrong with the car right now (knock on wood). Honda with 60k miles. Going to CO in a couple weeks so just want to get it checked pre-trip, and I'm due for an oil change so I'll take care of that too.

 

 

Don’t take to Adolf Hoepl Garage. Those wonderful folks wanted $300 for an oil change, tire rotation, and state inspection. I have no idea how they remain in business. Money laundering front for Madrigal Electromotive GmbH? 

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

On 9/16/2020 at 5:11 PM, Storm the Field said:

Opened yesterday.

We went to Katz’s Heights last night. The food was good, but they’re still working out the kinks with the wait staff. To be expected with a brand new location. 

[gmr548 16702]

Adolf

Really thought that name was retired.

[billfromlaketravis 11841]

1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

 

 

Really thought that name was retired.

 

They changed the name to “Liberty” Hoepfl Garage, but it was Adolf Hoepfl for a very long time. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

On 9/18/2020 at 9:36 AM, gmr548 said:

Recs on a good mechanic in the area? Recently moved to Oak Forest, near 43rd and TC Jester.

 

Nothing major wrong with the car right now (knock on wood). Honda with 60k miles. Going to CO in a couple weeks so just want to get it checked pre-trip, and I'm due for an oil change so I'll take care of that too.

 

 

I like Heights Auto Repair at 19th @ Durham.  Honest and inexpensive.