2021 Houston Texans offseason thread

[Slacks 6859]

This team will become one of the worst ever.

[Cement 314]

 

[Pam Cummings 9654]

Why the fuck should this cocksucker get to own a football team anyway. Fucking Sterling that little bitch, Goodell. Sounds like literally no one would stop you.

[tx ind 7013]

Can shithead Goodell just step in at some point and tell Cal to fuck off and sell the team?

[YChang 3462]

What a dumpster fire of an organization... and that's an insult to a good dumpster fire. 

[David Dennison 18945]

1 hour ago, Pasken said:

Imagine choosing Jack Easterby over Watson, Hopkins and Watt. Unbelievable. 

Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior?

[Sleepygrad 1029]

rumor going around that Cal and Easterby like docking

 

[TonyTexas 10524]

4 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2021/01/16/texans-chaos-deshaun-watson-unhappy-how-jack-easterby-kept-his-job?__twitter_impression=true

The only good thing detailed in this article is that Cal’s nickname around NRG is Tommy Boy

[Pasken 1309]

On 1/14/2021 at 9:45 PM, HtownHorn said:

I wish it was true, but then again Cal McNair is the owner.

Pretty sure his mommy is the owner. 

[David Dennison 18945]

Deshaun Watson is in a really bad spot.

[HoustonFrog 368]

Yeah Deshaun saying he won’t play for Texans now

[TonyTexas 10524]

13 minutes ago, HoustonFrog said:

Yeah Deshaun saying he won’t play for Texans now

I’d like to see a link to that quote. 

[ztejas 43528]

3 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I’d like to see a link to that quote. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-has-no-plans-to-be-with-the-texans-anytime-soon-per-report/

[msbesq 387]

DW—-leave now so that I’ll never have to think about this godforsaken team again.

[Smax 3800]

This organization has been shit from the very beginning, I never liked the name, the colors or toro. Piss poor decisions in the draft, coaches, wasting talent, no VY. I've said from the get go, just because a billionaire buys a team and drops it in my city doesn't mean I'll support them, that has be earned. 20 or so years into this mess, never been to a game or bought anything with their name or logo on, fuck em

[TonyTexas 10524]

10 minutes ago, ztejas said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-has-no-plans-to-be-with-the-texans-anytime-soon-per-report/

I know he’s unhappy but that’s not a direct quote from Watson saying he won’t play for the Texans. 

[Machinator 32099]

 

[David Dennison 18945]

17 minutes ago, msbesq said:

DW—-leave now so that I’ll never have to think about this godforsaken team again.

I feel bad for him. Not much he can do if the Texans don't want to move him.

[ztejas 43528]

12 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I know he’s unhappy but that’s not a direct quote from Watson saying he won’t play for the Texans. 

Okay Tony.

[ztejas 43528]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Not much he can do if the Texans don't want to move him.

You mean besides refuse to play and make Houston swallow $40M in cap? 

[Jimbaround 975]

I feel bad for him. Not much he can do if the Texans don't want to move him.

He got $30m last year so he can probably afford to sit out for a year if he really wanted. Not sure how that works with the contract guarantees though.

[msbesq 387]

If George Bush was born on third base, then Tommy Boy was born sliding into home and the catcher chasing the ball at the backstop. He is beyond clueless.

[David Dennison 18945]

5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

You mean besides refuse to play and make Houston swallow $40M in cap? 

They'd probably do it out of spite.

[Murfdogg21 4423]

If a player holds out and is not paid/is fined, I don’t believe they count against the salary cap. Like the case with Leveon Bell’s holdout a few years ago, if the player doesn’t report for at least 6 or 8 games, that year doesn’t count as a year against their contract. So holding out a year will just extend how long the Texans control his rights and he wouldn’t be counting against their 2021 cap. 
 

Now where he could screw them is hold out, wait for them to sign a replacement QB or other guys that put them close to the cap limit, then show up so his salary would put them over the cap. It would get ugly all around, worse than now. 
 

If he genuinely wants to be traded and not a vindictive asshole, and the Texans aren’t financial retards, DW should restructure his deal immediately to move guaranteed bonus/signing money to a later date so that the Texans don’t get hit with a $22-25M cap hit the moment he gets traded. If not, that’s $22-25M in money/cap space his next will save which should be factored into the trade compensation. 

[TonyTexas 10524]

Nm 

Edited January 16, 2021 by TonyTexas

[Slacks 6859]

I believe Cal has a disability of some sort.

Don't know him, but the looks and sound... It could just be social anxiety, but there's something there... He's not even at Fredo level. Fredo was just unaware and untrained. This guy is... Who knows.

And Mom is 84.

C'mon, Jim Crane... Or any of these new Texas billionaires... Make Janice an offer she can't refuse.

[ztejas 43528]

6 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If a player holds out and is not paid/is fined, I don’t believe they count against the salary cap. Like the case with Leveon Bell’s holdout a few years ago, if the player doesn’t report for at least 6 or 8 games, that year doesn’t count as a year against their contract. So holding out a year will just extend how long the Texans control his rights and he wouldn’t be counting against their 2021 cap. 

Right but what are the Texans going to do? Sign a bunch of guys hoping that Deshaun doesn't report? Wait to see what happens with Deshaun before you sign anyone - potentially missing the relevant FA period? Have him sit there and not count against the cap as one of the 5 best trade assets in the league? 

If he has indicated that he isn't going to play, you have to trade him. 

[Bigbend1812 12927]

2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Deshaun Watson is in a really bad spot.

 

[David Dennison 18945]

4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Right but what are the Texans going to do? Sign a bunch of guys hoping that Deshaun doesn't report? Wait to see what happens with Deshaun before you sign anyone - potentially missing the relevant FA period? Have him sit there and not count against the cap as one of the 5 best trade assets in the league? 

If he has indicated that he isn't going to play, you have to trade him. 

Or say look, if you want to play football, you will do it for us or not at all.

[ztejas 43528]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Or say look, if you want to play football, you will do it for us or not at all.

At that point lawsuits would start getting filed.

[Murfdogg21 4423]

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Right but what are the Texans going to do? Sign a bunch of guys hoping that Deshaun doesn't report? Wait to see what happens with Deshaun before you sign anyone - potentially missing the relevant FA period? Have him sit there and not count against the cap as one of the 5 best trade assets in the league? 

If he has indicated that he isn't going to play, you have to trade him. 

That’s not a sufficient reason to get buttfucked on a trade. Haven’t Houston fans been punished enough on this front between Hopkins then Harden? Tua + 3 first rounders or 4 first rounders from someone else in return for a generational talent who is only 25 and locked up for 5 more seasons. Fuck this bullshit of Tua plus one first round pick. As I stated earlier, the Texans would also be eating $22-25M in cap hit for his next team, and we already established in the Osweiler trade that that alone is worth a 2nd round pick. 

[David Dennison 18945]

13 minutes ago, Snacks said:

I believe Cal has a disability of some sort.

Don't know him, but the looks and sound... It could just be social anxiety, but there's something there... He's not even at Fredo level. Fredo was just unaware and untrained. This guy is... Who knows.

And Mom is 84.

C'mon, Jim Crane... Or any of these new Texas billionaires... Make Janice an offer she can't refuse.

We're Texas?

[Murfdogg21 4423]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

At that point lawsuits would start getting filed.

You can lose a lawsuit for refusing to let an employee out of a contract they signed or trading him to his desired opponent (likely with below value return)???

[ztejas 43528]

1 minute ago, Murfdogg21 said:

You can lose a lawsuit for refusing to let an employee out of a contract they signed or trading him to his desired opponent (likely with below value return)???

You don't think that if the Texans told him "you'll either play for us or you won't play at all" there might be some issues?

[David Dennison 18945]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

You don't think that if the Texans told him "you'll either play for us or you won't play at all" there might be some issues?

He signed a contract agreeing to do just that. 

[futureman 22530]

24 minutes ago, ztejas said:

At that point lawsuits would start getting filed.

how do you think contracts work?

[HoustonFrog 368]

Yeah just because he wants out doesn’t mean you get beat in a trade.

Tua plus two 1st and two 2nd seems fair and the minimum that should be accepted. Three 1st and one 2nd would be awesome. Obviously somewhat matters where those 1st are projected to land.

[David Dennison 18945]

2 minutes ago, HoustonFrog said:

Yeah just because he wants out doesn’t mean you get beat in a trade.

Tua plus two 1st and two 2nd seems fair and the minimum that should be accepted. Three 1st and one 2nd would be awesome. Obviously somewhat matters where those 1st are projected to land.

Tua, plus the Laremy Tunsil picks, plus a few more first and second round picks would be fine.

[Macklemore 2873]

I am a Christian and believe in prayer and Christ’s redemption and forgiveness. Nevertheless, insincere charlatans like Easterby who use religion to gain power belong in the 7th circle of hell in my book. This account of Easterbunny makes me sick:

I am sick of what Houston teams are doing to their fans. Fuck Cal and fuck Tilman

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Last year Joe Mixon essentially faked like he had really bad migraines until the bengals gave him a long term deal (aka until he got what he wanted). Then he immediately returned to practice as if his migraines were cured. What would stop Watson from pulling something like that? Anything? Isn’t that the hold out loophole.
 

After a certain point, he’s just too valuable an asset to just sit on if he isn’t going to play. If the Dolphins can put together a god father package for a guy that doesn’t even want to be with your organization, you have go be interested in that. 

Edited January 17, 2021 by youdunnf'dup

[Machinator 32099]

 

[Auto Driller 2506]

You know it’s bad when people decline the opportunity to interview for an NFL HC position.

[Machinator 32099]

 

[elfenix 34331]

This organization has been shit from the very beginning, I never liked the name, the colors or toro. Piss poor decisions in the draft, coaches, wasting talent, no VY. I've said from the get go, just because a billionaire buys a team and drops it in my city doesn't mean I'll support them, that has be earned. 20 or so years into this mess, never been to a game or bought anything with their name or logo on, fuck em

I'm adopting whatever team JJ gets moved to next season.

[withinyourreach 22]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

I know he’s unhappy but that’s not a direct quote from Watson saying he won’t play for the Texans. 

Nope, it was not a Watson quote at all.  It was entirely reporters speculating.  

[withinyourreach 22]

52 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Last year Joe Mixon essentially faked like he had really bad migraines until the bengals gave him a long term deal (aka until he got what he wanted). Then he immediately returned to practice as if his migraines were cured. What would stop Watson from pulling something like that? Anything? Isn’t that the hold out loophole.
 

After a certain point, he’s just too valuable an asset to just sit on if he isn’t going to play. If the Dolphins can put together a god father package for a guy that doesn’t even want to be with your organization, you have go be interested in that. 

Has Miami management made a single comment regarding Watson?  There is A LOT of speculation in this thread.  

[Poolflood 845]

So about 12 years ago Pool jr ( then age 6) was playing madden/Texans and even on EA they sucked ass and he was pissed.  So I changed his home team to Payton/colts.  He was hooked.  Been a Colts fan ever since and we've joined him.  (I know! csb!) So my advice is to follow anybody but the fucking Texans.  Of course I stopped watching the NFL about 85 when Earl went to new orleans.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

2 minutes ago, withinyourreach said:

Has Miami management made a single comment regarding Watson?  There is A LOT of speculation in this thread.  

Well they’re not allowed to, if I’m not mistaken. Pretty sure that’s a league rule. I know it is in the NBA. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5403]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Last year Joe Mixon essentially faked like he had really bad migraines until the bengals gave him a long term deal (aka until he got what he wanted). Then he immediately returned to practice as if his migraines were cured. What would stop Watson from pulling something like that? Anything? Isn’t that the hold out loophole.
 

After a certain point, he’s just too valuable an asset to just sit on if he isn’t going to play. If the Dolphins can put together a god father package for a guy that doesn’t even want to be with your organization, you have go be interested in that. 

Sore hammy is also a good one for that. 

[Macklemore 2873]

1 hour ago, Machinator said:

 

The Texans seem to be trying to set a record for the amount of horrendously stupid decisions a team can make in an offseason. Keeping Easterby and know let’s keep Tim Kelly, a guy who would be lucky to get a position coach job in the NFL. Let’s bring Mike Devlin back too!!