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Bernard

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10 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

It's the largest city in Florida by population and the largest city in the continental USA by land area!

 

City limits can be misleading. Miami MSA has 5.5 million population. Jacksonville MSA has 1.4 million population. 

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2 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

How the fuck are you going to relegate the team that made it to the AFC championship game to the WLAF?

Shouldn't the Browns be the ones making this move?

They're not moving. This is just a cheap talking point for people who casually follow the NFL.

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JimmyHoffa

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21 hours ago, Amobie said:

It doesn't really matter to the NFC teams that only have to travel there once every 8 years, but that REALLY sucks for their divisional opponents.  Scheduling would be a nightmare.

This is by far the biggest hurdle, and competitive advantage will get thrown in.

-Short weeks? Thursday night game in London= middle of the day here

-Or the Jags playing away?

-West coast travel?

- What do they do for TV times for Jags home games?

-Jags play on the road at night it's kicking off at 1AM in England

 

Nightmare for sure. 

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23 hours ago, utee94 said:

Yup, all of that.  And work in their bye week in a thoughtful manner as well, to help with the travel.

 

Also, some divisional realignment would really help.  Wishful thinking because it would break up some pretty good existing rivalries, but an ideal place for them could be in the AFC East, instead of Miami.  Then their divisional road games would all be East Coast trips to New York and Boston.

I'm thinking the NFL would move them to the NFC East (replacing the Redskins) that way they would get the Cowboys & Giants every year. Goodall would like that because it punishes the Redskins by moving them out of their traditional rivalry games, and it punishes Jerrah by making them play in London every year.
Oh yeah the Eagles too, who have had one good year in the last 10-20 years.

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4 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

Are there enough ex-pat football fans to fill the stadium on a regular basis? Good luck getting locals to show up when all the big football clubs are playing on the same day.

 

 

Tottenham Hotspur in North London is finishing up the construction on their new stadium. One feature they specifically included was the ability for the field to be easily switched from soccer pitch to football field

 

They've also entered into a 10 year agreement with the NFL to host 2 games per year.

"The new stadium has been designed from the outset for multi-use, including a structurally engineered fully retractable pitch – the first for any stadium in the UK – to ensure that the football-playing surface is always in peak condition.
 

Underneath the grass field will be a synthetic grass surface that would be used for NFL games and other events. This innovative solution also allows greater flexibility in the scheduling of games, reducing the set up time required to prepare the ground for other events.
 

Dedicated facilities for the NFL – including a home locker room and media suite – are also provided so that at no point are the facilities provided for the Club compromised by the need to cater for other uses."

I imagine getting fans to the stadium hasn't been a problem if they've put this much effort into being able to host the games

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Stupid idea. While yes, the London NFL game brings in spectators, they mainly go because it's something different that they don't see often in the UK. Does the NFL REALLY think that it can compete with soccer? London has 6 Premiere League clubs (Fulham, West Ham United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Crystal Palace and Tottenham) and there's no way in my opinion that the London Jaguars could truly bring in as many spectators. 

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Looking at attendance figures for the games since 2007 I don't see how they would have trouble supporting a team.  They've averaged about 83000 at Wembley for as many as 3 games a year and 74000 at Twickenham.  According to figures I saw less than 5% are Americans or American Ex pats and 60% come from outside London. 

Seems like more than novelty attendance to me.

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14 minutes ago, GhostofDanJones said:

Stupid idea. While yes, the London NFL game brings in spectators, they mainly go because it's something different that they don't see often in the UK. Does the NFL REALLY think that it can compete with soccer? London has 6 Premiere League clubs (Fulham, West Ham United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Crystal Palace and Tottenham) and there's no way in my opinion that the London Jaguars could truly bring in as many spectators. 

 

Close but not there yet........

And yes, there is plenty enough fans of American Football that live around London to support a team even on the Sunday's that their favorite EPL team is also is playing. 

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On 4/27/2018 at 3:10 PM, GhostofDanJones said:

Stupid idea. While yes, the London NFL game brings in spectators, they mainly go because it's something different that they don't see often in the UK. Does the NFL REALLY think that it can compete with soccer? London has 6 Premiere League clubs (Fulham, West Ham United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Crystal Palace and Tottenham) and there's no way in my opinion that the London Jaguars could truly bring in as many spectators. 

There are many American Football leagues in Europe

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But the Europeans are no mere couch fans, they have been playing the thoroughly American sport for years, with teams sprinkled all across the continent obsessed with a very different kind of football.

The European Federation of American Football holds a club tournament called “Eurobowl,” and a European Championship, with Germany winning this year’s games in a showdown with Austria. The Federation has 24 member-states, from Austria to Ukraine.

 

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On 4/27/2018 at 9:02 AM, CooterBrown said:

Are there enough ex-pat football fans to fill the stadium on a regular basis? Good luck getting locals to show up when all the big football clubs are playing on the same day.

 

 

If the NFL can sell the upside of having a team in the top 30 largest cities in the Las Vegas, I am sure the same can be done in one of the biggest metros in the world in London...

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On 4/27/2018 at 2:36 PM, TheBryMan81 said:

Tottenham Hotspur in North London is finishing up the construction on their new stadium. One feature they specifically included was the ability for the field to be easily switched from soccer pitch to football field

 

They've also entered into a 10 year agreement with the NFL to host 2 games per year.

"The new stadium has been designed from the outset for multi-use, including a structurally engineered fully retractable pitch – the first for any stadium in the UK – to ensure that the football-playing surface is always in peak condition.
 

Underneath the grass field will be a synthetic grass surface that would be used for NFL games and other events. This innovative solution also allows greater flexibility in the scheduling of games, reducing the set up time required to prepare the ground for other events.
 

Dedicated facilities for the NFL – including a home locker room and media suite – are also provided so that at no point are the facilities provided for the Club compromised by the need to cater for other uses."

I imagine getting fans to the stadium hasn't been a problem if they've put this much effort into being able to host the games

Well, London is a big ass town.   I guess this means they are ready for two teams.

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On 4/26/2018 at 11:57 AM, David Dennison said:

The NFL seems determined to have a franchise in London. Won't jet lag be a real competitive issue?

The idea is to get the sport a foothold in the largest English speaking city that currently doesn't follow the sport.   A city of  10.3 million people and surrounding areas as well that may get tv interest eventually is a big long term target.   It's a city that is roughly only 3 million behind Canada's largest province and has very low exposure currently.

 

Where else can they expand their audience?  Mexico has tons of issues to adapt to, Canada isn't all that lucrative and they already get some bleedover interest due to how close most of their population is to the USA and their familiarity with the sport.   Where else is a long term expansion outside the USA that makes any sense?   The US is effectively saturated for NFL interest.

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On 4/27/2018 at 1:36 PM, TheBryMan81 said:

Tottenham Hotspur in North London is finishing up the construction on their new stadium. One feature they specifically included was the ability for the field to be easily switched from soccer pitch to football field

 

They've also entered into a 10 year agreement with the NFL to host 2 games per year.

"The new stadium has been designed from the outset for multi-use, including a structurally engineered fully retractable pitch – the first for any stadium in the UK – to ensure that the football-playing surface is always in peak condition.
 

Underneath the grass field will be a synthetic grass surface that would be used for NFL games and other events. This innovative solution also allows greater flexibility in the scheduling of games, reducing the set up time required to prepare the ground for other events.
 

Dedicated facilities for the NFL – including a home locker room and media suite – are also provided so that at no point are the facilities provided for the Club compromised by the need to cater for other uses."

I imagine getting fans to the stadium hasn't been a problem if they've put this much effort into being able to host the games

Is it really that problematic to paint a football field on the pitch?  This seems like a ton of money for technology that is unnecessary.  Maybe they're doing it "just because."  As far as a retractable grass field, doesn't University of Phoenix stadium have this?  Obviously not as detailed, and no turf field underneath, but similar concept.  Just seems odd to go through all that just to avoid painting lines on the pitch and wanting a permanent field turf for a handful of NFL games.

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