Dallas Cowboys 2021 Offseason Thread: Fuck It All

[Post Oak 20,251]

Happy about this one.

[mdmost 43,006]

They're certainly addressing the biggest weakness. Will they pan out, who knows. The single thing holding back this team since Dak's ascension is the defense. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Jabril is a bad ass. Nice pick

[Machinator 32,099]

 

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Actually got good value from a pick.

[dcar00 14,302]

Just now, Loch Ness Monster said:

Actually got good value from a pick.

if he's healthy its a very good pick.

[Catdaddyhorn 3,446]

23 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

good point. now we are taking tall UDFA corners in the 3rd round so.....progress?

I'd also have to attribute some of our issues drafting for defense to our instability on that side ball since Parcells left.  We've remained fairly stable on the offensive side of the ball for the past 15 years while we've been the epitome of volatility on the defensive side of the ball.  Stability makes it easier for scouts and the entire front office to pinpoint what type of players have success in a system. Changing defensive schemes every 2 or 3 years probably limits the ability for scouts to evaluate talent at consistently proficient level. 

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

Everyone should be good with the Cox pick. That’s good value

[LTtxfan 49,286]

Is there an OL or Safety available worth moving up from pick #138 to maybe around #128 

[Pato del Muerto 52,530]

I think I id rather have taken Bobby brown instead of the ucla guy yesterday. At least he’s a real dt. Though an Arlington kid playing for the cowboys could have its extra good and bad, depending on his situation. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,917]

Holy shit, a good, solid value pick.  Highly athletic LB, who addresses a hole -- coverage LB.  I'm definitely on board with this pick at this juncture.  At worst, he'll probably be an above-average special teamer this year.  With Parsons and Cox, we could be seeing the end of LVE and Smith after this year.

[LTtxfan 49,286]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I think I id rather have taken Bobby brown instead of the ucla guy yesterday. At least he’s a real dt. Though an Arlington kid playing for the cowboys could have its extra good and bad, depending on his situation. 

 

Guess that's your "prerogative"

 

[Post Oak 20,251]

Would like them to look at Togiai, M.Wilson and K.Tonga at 1T.  Still would be happy with an OT.

[Sgt. Slaughter 2,841]

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I think I id rather have taken Bobby brown instead of the ucla guy yesterday. At least he’s a real dt. Though an Arlington kid playing for the cowboys could have its extra good and bad, depending on his situation. 

Bobby Brown is lazy and will flame out if he doesn’t figure out how to put in the work, we went with his polar opposite. I don’t mind the exact guys we have taken, I hate that we’re operating like we have 50 slots between each pick and are grabbing guys way too early.

[Wanker Bob 379]

21 minutes ago, mdmost said:

They're certainly addressing the biggest weakness. Will they pan out, who knows. The single thing holding back this team since Romo's ascension is the Joneses. 

They've had 15 straight years of top 10 level franchise QB play and have 3 wild card game wins. With a top 10 QB being an average team is the absolute floor. And they've managed to stay at the floor 

[Post Oak 20,251]

Maybe Jamar Johnson.  Need a S. 

[LTtxfan 49,286]

More OL getting taken as value picks in Rd #4... May be time for Dallas to find one

 

[mdmost 43,006]

Josh Ball OT Marshall

Edited May 1, 2021 by mdmost

[LTtxfan 49,286]

26 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Would like them to look at Togiai, M.Wilson and K.Tonga at 1T.  Still would be happy with an OT.

 

13 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Maybe Jamar Johnson.  Need a S. 

 

They are all available right?? 

Dallas on the clock

[Machinator 32,099]

 

[Post Oak 20,251]

Dane said Ball is a Top100 talent. Good frame. Smart 

Has a DV issue/character concern.

[LTtxfan 49,286]

7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Josh Ball OT Marshall

 

Kiper just not overly excited about Josh Ball. 

Jeremiah likes him...

[Patrick Bateman 3,917]

Back to shitty value and character issues.  

Kicked out of FSU for assaulting his ex-girlfriend.

 

[futureman 22,494]

1 hour ago, Wanker Bob said:

all non Dak free agent money

[Get ln My Van 927]

Loading up on mean motherfuckers. I like it.

[dcar00 14,302]

Just now, Patrick Bateman said:

Back to shitty value and character issues.  

Kicked out of FSU for assaulting his ex-girlfriend.

 

I think the value is fine.  its a measureables pick but not a reach.  hopefully he grew up but did get ejected from the CUSA champ game.

[futureman 22,494]

6 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

big athletic and mean. I’ll take it. 

[dcar00 14,302]

2 minutes ago, futureman said:

big athletic and mean. I’ll take it. 

maybe Michael needs to fire up the white house again..

[futureman 22,494]

Just now, dcar00 said:

maybe Michael needs to fire up the white house again..

I don’t give a fuck what they do as long as they win. godDAMMIT. 

[dcar00 14,302]

1 hour ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

I'd also have to attribute some of our issues drafting for defense to our instability on that side ball since Parcells left.  We've remained fairly stable on the offensive side of the ball for the past 15 years while we've been the epitome of volatility on the defensive side of the ball.  Stability makes it easier for scouts and the entire front office to pinpoint what type of players have success in a system. Changing defensive schemes every 2 or 3 years probably limits the ability for scouts to evaluate talent at consistently proficient level. 

sure but a UDFA corner in the 3rd isn't about the type of D.  that's next level stupid.

[Nicole44 22,067]

2 minutes ago, futureman said:

I don’t give a fuck what they do as long as they win. godDAMMIT. 

I hear you. We’ve had too many suspensions and shit the last couple of years. 

 

[dcar00 14,302]

2 minutes ago, futureman said:

I don’t give a fuck what they do as long as they win. godDAMMIT. 

I'm not sure why you think they have a chance of winning...

[gsoda3 3,263]

Back to shitty value and character issues.  
Kicked out of FSU for assaulting his ex-girlfriend.
 

Loading up on mean motherfuckers. I like it.

big athletic and mean. I’ll take it. 

We playing against women?

[futureman 22,494]

would like to trade up and grab kary vincent or shaun wade. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,917]

14 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I think the value is fine.  its a measureables pick but not a reach.  hopefully he grew up but did get ejected from the CUSA champ game.

He certainly doesn't sound like he's grown up.  Surely his representation worked with him on a better response than this.....

 

[Revolution512 1,491]

What answer would’ve been acceptable from a guy that beats women?

[dcar00 14,302]

8 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

He certainly doesn't sound like he's grown up.  Surely his representation worked with him on a better response than this.....

 

I get it. he could have left out "everybody has moved on" and just said the past is the past no comment.  he was never charged with anything but if he said something wrong maybe he could be.  my guess is everyone around him tells him not to comment on it.

what he did was bad but words are just words(he appears to not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, regardless of what he said).  it only matters how he acts.

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Maybe his ex-gf was the catch me outside chick. Challenged him to fights.

[Get ln My Van 927]

29 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

We playing against women?

Playing against the NFC East aren’t we?

[Patrick Bateman 3,917]

10 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I get it. he could have left out "everybody has moved on" and just said the past is the past no comment.  he was never charged with anything but if he said something wrong maybe he could be.  my guess is everyone around him tells him not to comment on it.

what he did was bad but words are just words(he appears to not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, regardless of what he said).  it only matters how he acts.

So, I don't agree.  Actions absolutely speak louder than words, but words, sentiments and genuine communicable emotions do matter especially in a public arena.  He's had, 5-6 months to really prepare for the draft?  He knew he was going to get asked this question and he failed at it.  Regardless, he's going to get his 2nd chance (which I believe in) and hopefully he can make it count, but I'm going to guess the odds aren't in his favor when it comes to these type of issues.  The flat out failure in the 3rd round bleeds into this decision too, which is kick in the groin.

Did it work out for Lattimer!!!!!

[LTtxfan 49,286]

1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

Maybe Jamar Johnson.  Need a S. 

Jamar just went in 5th Rd (#164) to Denver...  not too far behind Caden 🤔

[Post Oak 20,251]

1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

I hear you. We’ve had too many suspensions and shit the last couple of years. 

 

He's a fucking scumbag

[Patrick Bateman 3,917]

4 safeties have gone in the last 7 picks.  Maybe Washington from TCU?  He's short, but he's smart, has good instincts, decent agility, and will play the run.

 

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

4 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

4 safeties have gone in the last 7 picks.  Maybe Washington from TCU?  He's short, but he's smart, has good instincts, decent agility, and will play the run.

 

Definitely wanted him. I would’ve been happy with him yesterday honestly 

[Mo Horn 8,852]

You knew Jerry wasn't going to go the whole draft without taking a WR

[LTtxfan 49,286]

Stanford WR

[Patrick Bateman 3,917]

19 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Definitely wanted him. I would’ve been happy with him yesterday honestly 

Welp, he's on the board.  But, we got with a WR with drops issues.  But okay.  He's a really good athlete.

And not to belabor the point, but to give credit where due.  Ball had the opportunity to answer the question again and did much better.  Don't know If I need the lack of self-awareness but acknowledging, taking accountability (even if vague for legal reasons), and looking towards the future is a fine answer.  Doesn't erase what he did and he'll have to wear that until he doesn't, but a better answer.

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Patrick Bateman
Clarification

[Vito Andolini 9,126]

I guess we’re at that point in the draft, Dallas picks Fehoko and the NFL Network couldn’t give a fuck, threw to commercial. Well, couldn’t give a fuck about Dallas, LeRoy Butler is on announcing GB picks every five seconds.

[taybo20 2,878]

What is it about Fehoko? 

[dcar00 14,302]

feels like a BPA, can't believe he dropped that much pick

we don't need a WR but it appears to be very good value.  I'd rather have had value at DT/DE in the 3rd.