The US Capitol has been Breached [Action and Developing stories]

[conVINCEd 21469]

58 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I’ve always wanted to pretend to be an architect. 

Ever been to Santiago, Chile?

[hayden_horn 11362]

i think it's important,  in this crazy fucking news cycle, to take a step back and look at the larger picture of what happened and try to absorb oh wait fuck that it is worse than we fucking imagined cannot compute

[wildcat09 29354]

1 minute ago, hayden_horn said:

i think it's important,  in this crazy fucking news cycle, to take a step back and look at the larger picture of what happened and try to absorb oh wait fuck that it is worse than we fucking imagined cannot compute

Literally every day since it happened it has gotten worse. It was horrible when it happened and we all had suspicions but never in a million years would I have suspected this degree of complicity from sitting members of Congress and law enforcement. They ripped out their fucking panic alarms. 

Everyone remotely involved needs the fucking chair. 

[Beau Vine 54219]

Who was undesirable carpetbagger in the DT thread?

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20397]

Pro-insurrection Republicans now trying to distance themselves from .... themselves. Hilarious. 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/pro-insurrection-republicans-trump.html

[workswithseed 2103]

6 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Who was undesirable carpetbagger in the DT thread?

Just for fucking with me, to your answer, I ain't got no clue.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5112]

4 hours ago, Celery Man said:

more from the party of very adult adults

 

So that’s assault and he should be arrested. If they aren’t willing to arrest him they need to find people to operate that station that will arrest someone who touches them without permission. 
 

Also, why do Republicans act like 4 year olds in public?  Are they trying to shame their parents?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Wanker Bob 379]

A coupe of things:

1) how insane is it that the people trying to revolt are the ones who have all the privilege and benefit of the doubt in society? It's always people who are oppressed and marginalized that have nothing to lose and start an armed revolution. But it's not blacks, latinos, and native americans doing this. It's the spoiled privileged whites. 

2) how do these people, trump, and the congressionals who are complicit not realize that any attempt at insurrection is doomed to failure without the backing of at least half the military? They went into this with absolutely zero military backing whatsoever. Without that even if everything went to plan and they captured the Capitol and executed some politicians... What comes next? They hold out until several special forces units are dispatched to breach the Capitol and wipe them out? Without any of the military behind them no one is going to just start taking orders from them because they killed some congressmen. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

It really looks like Trump was trying to ignite a civil war. 

Edited January 13, 2021 by Hugo Stiglitz

[C-Man 27222]

15 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It really looks like Trump was trying to ignite a civil war. 

That might be worth forgiving $300M-$400M in debt owed by a few folks around the world don't ya think?

[Pato del Muerto 52492]

19 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It really looks like Trump was trying to ignite a civil war. 

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[Hookah Horns 3083]

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

I agree 100%.

With the metal detector theater, we are giving these idiots exactly what they want. A public opportunity to virtue signal. This is a fucking campaign ad for these people. This is great for them. They have now stood up to loony Washington DC who hates guns and wants restrictions they don't even honestly believe are appropriate.

Woohoo.

So we give them a win because... what? We feel scared and our response is to say, "Let's just increase security even if it doesn't make sense."?

Do we actually believe that Congressmen are in there scared of Boebert shooting them? Or are they just pissed at her grotesquerie and ignorance? They are right to hate her, because she is fucking detestable and a moron and freak, but none of them in there think she's going to shoot them and if they do they're idiots (like Susan Collins thinking Iran was invading).

This is an argument for Democrats to come armed.

Then you go through a fairly open process of determining what the real security issues are and you address them. Congressmen have been allowed to carry guns on the floor at least since 1967.

Come up with a formal process for handling it BEFORE installing the detectors and giving these freaks an opportunity to pull a stunt.

I agree with you in some ways about the metal detectors, but Boebert pulling a gun in the Capitol probably wouldn't be in the top 5 most surprising things of the past year. Hell, it wouldn't even be the most surprising thing of 2021 so far. I'm not sure how you can dismiss it out of hand.

I hate guns and MAGAts, and try to avoid being around either of those things. The two combined, especially in an emotionally charged time and place, would make me uneasy. 

[Wanker Bob 379]

26 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It really looks like Trump was trying to ignite a civil war.

But even to do that he'd need a significant portion of the military behind him to start a civil war between his military faction and Biden/the remaining US military. If the military is united on one side then there won't be a civil war. The difference between a terrorist and a revolutionary is backing from the military. 

[Carl Spackler 3482]

1 hour ago, conVINCEd said:

Ever been to Santiago, Chile?

Twice last year.

[bolverk 29671]

39 minutes ago, Wanker Bob said:

A coupe of things:

1) how insane is it that the people trying to revolt are the ones who have all the privilege and benefit of the doubt in society? It's always people who are oppressed and marginalized that have nothing to lose and start an armed revolution. But it's not blacks, latinos, and native americans doing this. It's the spoiled privileged whites. 

2) how do these people, trump, and the congressionals who are complicit not realize that any attempt at insurrection is doomed to failure without the backing of at least half the military? They went into this with absolutely zero military backing whatsoever. Without that even if everything went to plan and they captured the Capitol and executed some politicians... What comes next? They hold out until several special forces units are dispatched to breach the Capitol and wipe them out? Without any of the military behind them no one is going to just start taking orders from them because they killed some congressmen. 

A disgusting amount of self-privilege and an engrossed sense of self-entitlement, combined with a beyond-all-reasoning lack of self-awareness and accountability, answer all your questions.

[C-Man 27222]

Nothing is higher than architect.

Tell that to the Van B Boys!

[Mdhorn 5949]

These didn't come out right, but then they weren't right in Instagram either.  

 

[Lucid 3]

2 hours ago, Wanker Bob said:

It's always people who are oppressed and marginalized that have nothing to lose and start an armed revolution.

 

You have no idea what you're talking about. We don't even have to go abroad to find counterexamples, we can look at the history of this very country starting with its founding.

[RDCanecutter 26428]

5 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

I belive we mentioned this before but where the fuck is Mo Brooks, Paul Gosar. Andy Biggs etc... in all of this?

Seditious motherfuckers.

Hopefully halfway to Cuba on a sailboat, singing Christopher Cross tunes.

[cactusflinthead 27598]

This and Clyburn make me think they had to have help

 

They are dangerous, but so dumb. There has to be a trail.

[HenryJames 66048]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Trump is going to have to resign after this.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11819]

6 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Who was undesirable carpetbagger in the DT thread?

The poster formerly known as Ray Pugh.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19101]

6 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Literally every day since it happened it has gotten worse. It was horrible when it happened and we all had suspicions but never in a million years would I have suspected this degree of complicity from sitting members of Congress and law enforcement. They ripped out their fucking panic alarms. 

Everyone remotely involved needs the fucking chair. 

Short walk and long drop.  Fuck it, public hangings.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

57 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

What did you learn in school today?

Dear little boy of mine

[Pancho 44774]

This woman is fucked up and needs help and also needs the full Lincoln project throttle to the throat 

 

[formermav43 4606]

4 hours ago, Lucid said:

You have no idea what you're talking about. We don't even have to go abroad to find counterexamples, we can look at the history of this very country starting with its founding.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. A revolution fomented by the privileged and powerful is the American way.

[DigglerontheHoof 21195]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

This woman is fucked up and needs help and also needs the full Lincoln project throttle to the throat 

 

at the very least, she needs to be censured immediately.  I don't know what the process for removing a congressperson is but it needs to start immediately, as well. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[immamac 42847]

Nancy Pelosi failed in her duties as speaker when she agreed to sit these seditionists. 

Nancy Pelosi should also resign after bringing every house member like this up for expulsion and getting impeachment through. 

[DigDug 1669]

8 hours ago, TexArcher said:

That's right, folks, in Joe Biden's America you'll have to suffer through ten seconds of safety screening to make sure none of the 100 million people brainwashed and whipped into a fury by a megalomaniacal sociopath come barging with their perfectly legal military-grade killing machines and gun down you and everyone else in the room.  Y'all gonna stand for this assault on yer freedoms?!

Just as long as they don’t start doing that shit at airports.  
 

Then you’re really going to hear about it.

[bad_teammate 13195]

6 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It really looks like Trump was trying to ignite a civil war. 

At the risk* of being yelled at again before people eventually say, "Well OK fine you're right but go to hell anyway"...

Not really.

"Trying" is the key word here and "trying" isn't exactly something Donald Trump does. It's the difference between a guy who lazily and distractedly flicks matches at a forest and a guy who walks into the forest with cans of gasoline and road flares. Trump's the lazy, distracted, and stupid one.

He obviously wasn't displeased by his idiot minions (both the cops (who are bastards) and the mentally and emotionally disturbed freaks the cops enabled) stormed the capitol in a doomed-to-fail attempt at a coup, but his goal isn't societal transformation or a civil war, his goal is to be perceived as the winner. If the MAGA Coup had worked and the Congress had said, "FINE OK TRUMP IS PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!" he would've celebrated victory and told his mentally deficient friends to go home in peace, back to their beautiful boats.

Do a great deal of his followers want civil war? Oh absolutely, but really what they want is RAHOWA, the racial holy war. These are people who have visions of a world that doesn't involve them, which Donald Trump is constitutionally incapable of envisioning.

After 1/6 he made his hostage video and all of his griping about how he shouldn't have made his hostage video is done in private. He saves his most derange proclamations for the unfortunate souls who surround him. He's been virtually radio silent since 1/6.

He's not trying to kick off a civil war.  People who start civil wars care about big ideas and about vast swaths of people. He's a crybaby who is mad he lost and doesn't care about anything but himself.

He's a giant piece of human waste, but we should try to understand that in a proper context instead of trying to discover new ways to express our hysterical anxiety. (Same for Boebert, Greene, et al)

* - j/k I love it it is my fetish

[Hank Kingsley 20926]

 

[Hank Kingsley 20926]

5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

At the risk* of being yelled at again before people eventually say, "Well OK fine you're right but go to hell anyway"...

Not really.

"Trying" is the key word here and "trying" isn't exactly something Donald Trump does. It's the difference between a guy who lazily and distractedly flicks matches at a forest and a guy who walks into the forest with cans of gasoline and road flares. Trump's the lazy, distracted, and stupid one.

He obviously wasn't displeased by his idiot minions (both the cops (who are bastards) and the mentally and emotionally disturbed freaks the cops enabled) stormed the capitol in a doomed-to-fail attempt at a coup, but his goal isn't societal transformation or a civil war, his goal is to be perceived as the winner. If the MAGA Coup had worked and the Congress had said, "FINE OK TRUMP IS PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!" he would've celebrated victory and told his mentally deficient friends to go home in peace, back to their beautiful boats.

Do a great deal of his followers want civil war? Oh absolutely, but really what they want is RAHOWA, the racial holy war. These are people who have visions of a world that doesn't involve them, which Donald Trump is constitutionally incapable of envisioning.

After 1/6 he made his hostage video and all of his griping about how he shouldn't have made his hostage video is done in private. He saves his most derange proclamations for the unfortunate souls who surround him. He's been virtually radio silent since 1/6.

He's not trying to kick off a civil war.  People who start civil wars care about big ideas and about vast swaths of people. He's a crybaby who is mad he lost and doesn't care about anything but himself.

He's a giant piece of human waste, but we should try to understand that in a proper context instead of trying to discover new ways to express our hysterical anxiety. (Same for Boebert, Greene, et al)

* - j/k I love it it is my fetish

I agree with you regarding Trump. We don't know enough about Boebert, Greene, etc. to assess their desires/intentions. 

 

[Nivek 16928]

That doesn’t appear to be the fittest group.

[bad_teammate 13195]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

 

[NorthLoop 14195]

1 minute ago, Nivek said:

That doesn’t appear to be the fittest group.

Consider their opponent. 

 

Also I don't care as long as their trigger fingers work. 

[Hank Kingsley 20926]

 

[bad_teammate 13195]

At least 2/3rds of them voted for Trump and at least 1/2 of those Trump voters believe there were ~*~*~irregularities~*~*~.

Get them out of the people's house.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2402]

Trump is going to have to resign after this.

LOL. Like he gives a fuck. I expect he is going to try and pull something crazy.

[bad_teammate 13195]

3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

Oh my god the way she delivers that line is so triggering. Karen is just so frustrated with her incompetent husband.

[lemonlime 5503]

I agree with you regarding Trump. We don't know enough about Boebert, Greene, etc. to assess their desires/intentions. 
 

I’m also wondering, and trying not to be too tin foil hat here, but if the congresspeople (who are also Greene, et. al.) who refused to wear masks when herded off into that room, did so not only because they’re raging assholes but also because they wanted to be recognized by the insurrectionists if they got through.

[bad_teammate 13195]

Just now, lemonlime said:

I’m also wondering, and trying not to be too tin foil hat here, but if the congresspeople (who are also Greene, et. al.) who refused to wear masks when herded off into that room, did so not only because they’re raging assholes but also because they wanted to be recognized by the insurrectionists if they got through.

A truly powerful new contestant in the "Who Can Be Alarmist?!?" race.

[TXSG8R 3362]

10 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Its what the Army does.  When you get downtime, you sleep.  Doesnt matter where.  

[bad_teammate 13195]

No, I mean, "Why are these people even there?"

The capitol isn't under siege.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

It shouldn’t be a surprise that police, military police, capital police, and military in general skew republican and believe there was some level or semblance of shenanigans in the election. Do you start screening folks who work at the capital to make sure they aren’t republican or supporters and believers of Trump (or whichever party is not in power, in the future)?

[ConferenceRoom 6141]

1 minute ago, DonkeyCigars said:

It shouldn’t be a surprise that police, military police, capital police, and military in general skew republican and believe there was some level or semblance of shenanigans in the election. Do you start screening folks who work at the capital to make sure they aren’t republican or supporters and believers of Trump (or whichever party is not in power, in the future)?

*Capitol

[TXSG8R 3362]

11 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

No, I mean, "Why are these people even there?"

The capitol isn't under siege.

It wasn't on January 6th either until it was.  They are starting the impeachment today, crazy shit can follow.