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17 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

For inspirational courage, that Congressman should watch AOC's livestream from last night. You should at least be able to be as brave as a dainty little 31-year-old female minority snowflake who is probably the most marked person in all of government by the fascist right. She was spitting fire yesterday. 

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You fucking Democrats stole an election and you expect everything to be fine. You support BLM and Antifa. It was ok while they were rioting, looting, and killing. Not one word of condemnation. Now yiu

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The hypocrisy of binary politics is in full effect today.  BLM, Antifa burn buildings, loot cities, ambush cops, attack govt buildings, protest in state capitols and Trumpers demand the police ta

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13 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

they took an oath.  stop the whine, or fucking resign.

This.

It's finally a test of leadership that they fucking signed up to do.  So fucking scary, now that we're past the fluff pieces on National Tamale Day declarations and working those backroom deals and kickbacks on gov't contracts in your home state.

Time to actually fucking do something of merit.

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He’s been kinda quiet lately. Didn’t think his return would be over defending fuckhead republicans rights to not have to go through metal detectors. That wasn’t even on the bingo card. 

It's not surprising to me in the least that you reduce this to nothing but the latest R vs D drama of the day instead of having a larger view of it. Very typical of the CR .

You guys are obsessed with signaling anti-Republican virtue to each other and basically nothing else.  Being at TexAgs is similar where they do little else but scream increasingly hysterical anti-Democrat conspiracy at each other.

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(both members of the House and Senate) ...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their attendance at the Session of their Respective Houses, and in going to and from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

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Interfering with a Congressman about his business is a high bar and this doesn't clear. I love AOC and Ilhan, I do, but it's not their business whether or not a colleague has a gun. Being scared of Lauren Boebert is a choice. She hasn't threatened anyone or done anything with her gun. We can all agree she's a garbage-brained freakshow, but she's an elected Congresswoman who has broken no laws. The Constitution protects her right to carry that gun and we need to actually follow legal processes and not just be led around by the nose by the dumbest morons in US history.

Ignore the idiots and move forward with the business of the people.

 

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Just heard about the panic buttons.  Holy fuck.  This was a premeditated, inside job with the goal of the deaths of government officials.  I don't see any other explanation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/capitol-hill-riots-panic-buttons-torn-out-staffer-1561191%3famp=1
 

Looks like an inside job. The perpetrators should be on video. 

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3 minutes ago, slorch said:

It's finally a test of leadership that they fucking signed up to do.  So fucking scary, now that we're past the fluff pieces on National Tamale Day declarations and working those backroom deals and kickbacks on gov't contracts in your home state.

Is this a... what day is this?

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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

It's not surprising to me in the least that you reduce this to nothing but the latest R vs D drama of the day instead of having a larger view of it. Very typical of the CR .

You guys are obsessed with signaling anti-Republican virtue to each other and basically nothing else.  Being at TexAgs is similar where they do little else but scream increasingly hysterical anti-Democrat conspiracy at each other.

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Article 1, Section 6, Clause 1

(both members of the House and Senate) ...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their attendance at the Session of their Respective Houses, and in going to and from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

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Interfering with a Congressman about his business is a high bar and this doesn't clear. I love AOC and Ilhan, I do, but it's not their business whether or not a colleague has a gun. Being scared of Lauren Boebert is a choice. She hasn't threatened anyone or done anything with her gun. We can all agree she's a garbage-brained freakshow, but she's an elected Congresswoman who has broken no laws. The Constitution protects her right to carry that gun and we need to actually follow legal processes and not just be led around by the nose by the dumbest morons in US history.

Ignore the idiots and move forward with the business of the people.

 

Stop acting like a lawyer because you suck at it. 
 

The metal detectors are for the floor of the house. Cant have a gun on the house floor. The qanon nut jobs can keep their guns in their own chambers.

You really pick the strangest things to defend sometimes. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/12/politics/house-democrats-safety-worries/index.html

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Just now, smuggs said:

Is this a... what day is this?

Lolz... Wednesday or Thursday.  Better to do both.

 

The shot was at the notion of these 'single day' food holidays and such when there are slightly more pressing matters at hand.

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Just now, hookemATL said:

He is not operating on a normal wavelength right now.  I would just let him flail as the evidence mounts, and swing back around when his own personal life stabilizes.  Thats just my opinion.

Umm, this is his normal wavelength. His circumstances have not changed his level of cuntiness one iota, for better or for worse.

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1 minute ago, hookemATL said:

He is not operating on a normal wavelength right now.  I would just let him flail as the evidence mounts, and swing back around when his own personal life stabilizes.  Thats just my opinion.

IMO, he should get a warning or a thread restriction. Dude is just threadshitting and name calling. 

I get that he's in rough time due to his personal loss, but he's embarassing himself and preventing any news from actually being the topic of the thread

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2 minutes ago, hookemATL said:

He is not operating on a normal wavelength right now.  I would just let him flail as the evidence mounts, and swing back around when his own personal life stabilizes.  Thats just my opinion.

Yeah, didn't he just lose a daughter? I'd give plenty of slack in this case.

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2 minutes ago, smuggs said:

 

I'm into the Frank Stallone-looking chicks so this kind of turns me on.

 

My dad is 80 years old and said that he doesn't have much of an opinion re: what's going on right now but that he could be persuaded to adopt the side of the winner of a naked mud-wrestling match between AOC and Boebert.

I love my dad. 

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to add to an earlier point about people (non-congressmen) carrying weapons in and around the capitol.  they attempted a coup, or whatever they thought a coup was (not sure what their end goal actually was, other than "take back muh country").  they thought (correctly) that some of the cops were in on it and would help them.

the next time they try this shit, there's a better chance that the cops won't be in on it, and this will be known.  so do we think this increases or decreases the odds that they'll be carrying weapons with live ammo and their moron fingers on the trigger?

yeah, the weekend warriors who got arrested at the airport and fired from their jobs will have their lives ruined.  that only leaves the actual domestic terrorists/white supremacists who are willing to die for this shit and don't care about social media or their jobs.

either the next thing will be bigger and worse, or it will be stopped by an increased presence of those put in place to stop it.  yes, it sucks that it's necessary, but it's necessary.  4 years of humoring trump has helped ensure this.

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7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

IMO, he should get a warning or a thread restriction. Dude is just threadshitting and name calling. 

I get that he's in rough time due to his personal loss, but he's embarassing himself and preventing any news from actually being the topic of the thread

This is where I'm at.  The fucking politics thread (no offense, generally stay out of CR) has more news than the DT thread because of this shit.

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12 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The dude's kid just died and he's shitposting on Surly. I really don't know what to make of that.

I didn't lose a kid obviously but after I buried Emily, I'm pretty sure I lost my shit a few times in a drunken stupor on Shaggy. Pretty sure Bob or Immamac did me the kind favor of deleting those posts back in the day.

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2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Under most circumstances I would. We've gotten into it before. But, I can't go neg him right now. 

You lost a dad. He lost a daughter.

I just can't.

I understand that and wasn't asking for him to be negged to Bolivia, but he's absolutely ruining a thread meant for relaying "news." As others have said, I can't explain his online demeanor - just as aggressively opposed to rational discourse as ever. Always full of hate, vindictiveness, insults, and complaints about "cloak roomers" without any hint of humanity beyond the one thread recounting the horrible news about his daughter.

I won't take this further.

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50 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

And the fucker hates dogs, so he doesn't have that either. So fuck him.

People who hate dogs aren't wired right.  The only exception I can think of is if you were attacked at a young age and never got over it, which is understandable.  Otherwise, dogs are awesome and if you don't like them and they don't like you, well, you should be kept under close watch.

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2 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

She's been arrested four times.

Good god, you know what I mean.

I want you to think this through...
So right now Democrats express fear and get to restrict the rights of a Republican. It's not based on a real threat from the Republican. It's not based on a real action from a Republican. No real credibility to the threat.  It's just a fear primarily backed up by a chorus of increasingly-loud outrage.

Do you seriously not see a problem with this precedent of being able to restrict a Congressman's access to Congress based on nothing but fear-mongering?

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

People who hate dogs aren't wired right. 

100%

Dogs have been co-evolving with us for millenia. You don't have to love dogs, but if you don't find them engaging at all then something is wired wrong in the brain. Alien stuff.

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14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

He made a thread in DT about it

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/18441-my-daughter-sarah-passed-away-this-morning

 

 

All I have to say to that is I'm sorry for his loss, that is of course beyond horrible.   And I would absolutely act very erratically for who knows how long. 

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9 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Uh, he was also posting pics of his wife in NSAA in the past couple of weeks.  Something's off with him, to say the least.

agreed.  i have enough of a body of evidence on immortal from years of posting across sites to know that he is likely either an awful person or someone who just enjoys pretending to be an asshole.  i just put him on ignore after he started shitposting that thread on the same day he was seeking comfort over the passing of his daughter which is heart breakingly tragic no matter what, when, why, where, who, how.  what is so bizarre about that dude is that he was posting homemade porn of his wife a couple of hours before announcing the loss of his daughter.  my utterly vexed meter could not process that timeline at all so i found it best to just put him on ignore.  he's never been remotely stable or particularly thoughtful and the passing of a child would make for some bizarre and unfortunate mental states.

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19 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Good god, you know what I mean.

I want you to think this through...
So right now Democrats express fear and get to restrict the rights of a Republican. It's not based on a real threat from the Republican. It's not based on a real action from a Republican. No real credibility to the threat.  It's just a fear primarily backed up by a chorus of increasingly-loud outrage.

Do you seriously not see a problem with this precedent of being able to restrict a Congressman's access to Congress based on nothing but fear-mongering?

100%

Dogs have been co-evolving with us for millenia. You don't have to love dogs, but if you don't find them engaging at all then something is wired wrong in the brain. Alien stuff.

Yes? But not specifically because they are Republican. We, as a society, get to restrict the conduct of others. And as a society we've agreed that even "rights" are subject to reasonable restrictions. Not allowing guns on the floor is pretty goddamn reasonable. I really don't think the provision you keep citing says otherwise. 

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17 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Btw what is the point of showing up at the state capitols other than as a show of armed and organized force?

to be laughed at and mocked.  I drove by last Wednesday to our State Capitol and just pulled off into a parking space and just enjoyed seeing the anger and stupidity being spewed by my "fellow Texans."  And it honestly made me thankful to my parents.  My mom who busted her ass to keep us in an above-average school district that we were probably priced out of.  To my dad, who before he left home, instilled in me skepticism of group-think and my own critical thinking skills.  I just sat there with my window rolled down having slogans shouted at me and I just smiled for like ten minutes thinking about my parents and appreciating that they didn't make me like these people's parents made them.  

I ask you ardent Trumpers who feel this country has passed you by...what's more likely for the shortcomings in your life...caused by of a cohort of coastal elitists, socialist liberals, Jews, illegal immigrants from Mexico, blacks on welfare, bad trade deals with China, activist judges taking away your guns and allowing gay marriage, all led by Biden, Pelosi, and generations of crazy Democrats.  A vast conspiracy so far-reaching in time and geography and scope, that nobody can bring it down and restore your country and your pursuit of happiness and your liberty.  What explains your station in life, this infinite conspiracy or are you just dumber than you thought?  

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24 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Good god, you know what I mean.

I want you to think this through...
So right now Democrats express fear and get to restrict the rights of a Republican. It's not based on a real threat from the Republican. It's not based on a real action from a Republican. No real credibility to the threat.  It's just a fear primarily backed up by a chorus of increasingly-loud outrage.

Do you seriously not see a problem with this precedent of being able to restrict a Congressman's access to Congress based on nothing but fear-mongering?

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Dogs have been co-evolving with us for millenia. You don't have to love dogs, but if you don't find them engaging at all then something is wired wrong in the brain. Alien stuff.

This is nothing more than your opinion. I'd say there's plenty of reason to consider the threat credible, considering multiple Democratic members of Congress have already told us they were scared that GOP reps would lead rioters to them to murder them last week. "Oh sure it's reasonable to worry about Lauren Boebert leading a murder mob to kill Ayanna Pressley in the middle of a riot she helped incite but it's not reasonable to worry about her being a threat to Pressley and others in any other scenarios" is not a good take. In fact it's a very stupid take.

And prohibiting firearms from being brought onto the floor isn't restricting a congressman's access, it's restricting the firearm. All they have to do is leave it in their office. It's also not unconstitutional. The purpose of the clause you cite was to prevent the President from having congressmen arrested to keep them from voting a way the President didn't like. Congress can still set rules to provide for the safety of its members and require the members to comply.

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