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10 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

The good news is most of the idiots can't keep their mouth shut about their love of MAGA. should be fairly easy to get them to out themselves. 

It's not the ones that cant keep their mouth shut that you should worry you. While I tend to subscribe to the George Carlin theory on the average person (and some may argue that is especially true of MAGA nation), there's a whole of money that's been  invested until now and more to come .  And those who invest.  do it with the expectation of ROI.

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You fucking Democrats stole an election and you expect everything to be fine. You support BLM and Antifa. It was ok while they were rioting, looting, and killing. Not one word of condemnation. Now yiu

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The hypocrisy of binary politics is in full effect today.  BLM, Antifa burn buildings, loot cities, ambush cops, attack govt buildings, protest in state capitols and Trumpers demand the police ta

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I believe he was the guy we sent to New Orleans to clean up the Katrina shitshow IIRC.

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 He gained media celebrity and accolades for his apparent turning around of the situation in the city as well as his gruff management style which contrasted with what many felt were the empty platitudes of civilian officials. In one widely played clip, Honoré was seen on the streets of the city, barking orders to subordinates and, in one case, berating local police officers who were displaying their weapons as they rode past him. "We're on a rescue mission, damn it!" Honoré shouted. [5] New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was quoted on a radio interview September 1, 2005, saying: "Now, I will tell you this—and I give the president some credit on this—he sent one John Wayne dude down here that can get some stuff done, and his name is Gen. Honoré. And he came off the doggone chopper, and he started cussing and people started moving. And he's getting some stuff done."

 

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Just two guys working outside.....having to wear protective masks because of an out-of-control virus, with armed National Guardsmen to protect them just off-camera, installing the deadliest form of razor-wire known to man for our "peaceful transition of power" ceremony.  THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN BIDEN'S AMERICA!  

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https://apnews.com/article/ex-military-cops-us-capitol-riot-a1cb17201dfddc98291edead5badc257

 

Most of this is already covered extensively in this thread.  Still, its another example of why none of this stops Jan 20.  I found out my mother has moved on to that OANN (or whatever its called) network.  She told me yesterday she got the covid vaccine because if it was dangerous we'd know since "the media hates Trump."  I am so glad I am in another State now and away from my idiot/crazy family.   Dad was a US Marine fighter pilot.  He at least has the sense not to even mention politics to me.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

There were Trumpers on Manafort’s jury that voted to convict in EDVA, so I’m not entirely sold that they’re incapable of convicting terrorists 

Sure, but the counterpoint is the acquittal of the Oregon Militia. Maybe the Feds completely botched that case, but they fact that every juror came back with "acquit" is truly frightening.  It only takes one to hang a jury.  

I think they will convict people who are shown assaulting cops and probably destroying properties.  I don't think you're going to get broader charges to stick on anyone who entered the Capitol.  There is some room for interpretation there, and I do not trust a jury of my fellow Americans to interpret facts the same way I do.  

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Just two guys working outside.....having to wear protective masks because of an out-of-control virus, with armed National Guardsmen to protect them just off-camera, installing the deadliest form of razor-wire known to man for our "peaceful transition of power" ceremony.  THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN BIDEN'S AMERICA!  

Hard hats + masks = Antifa.

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

Keep two words in mind when the Feds move to finalize charges: "jury selection".  

There will be Trump supporters in the jury pool. There will be people who think the election was rigged. There will be people who have a hard time distinguishing between a BLM protest on the streets and a insurrectionists storming the Capitol.  Trying to get a conviction on even the obvious will come down to jury selection.  

yeah, my nutjob litmus test is something like this:

 

1. Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?

2. Do you believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya?

 

Unfortunately some of my extended family cannot pass that test.

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5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It is very telling that the lawmakers she's talking about never really try to refute arguments and criticism like this. They just say, "oh yeah? well you're a socialist!" 

Whenever they engage with her on the merits, at least on twitter, it's always a bloodbath. 

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32 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I would just like to take a moment to point out that the inauguration of our next president has our capitol city on lockdown because there are millions of Americans that believe in a fantasy world that doesn't exist.

Ah, but see, that world does exist.  It has existed for a long time.  It is very much woven into the fabric of this great (divided) country.

That same fantasy world is a world where one group of people has always been led to believe it's there way or no way.  Those unlike them are unAmerican (or un-human).  Now that the world is telling them that the past may not be their future, they don't like it.

"Stop the Steal" and all of that other rhetoric is the excuse, not the reason. 

I mean, c'mon, "Back the Blue" as long as they're stomping out blacks... who tried to tell anybody who would listen that the evil was coming for everybody.

It's here. It's not a fantasy. It's history. The only "fantasy" is the Donald Trump cares.  He's just using the division to try to save himself. He didn't create it. He didn't even create the lie...

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1 hour ago, TexasEd said:

He meant the EC votes.  They were there to stop Congress from certifying the EC, to hang Pence.

Semantics, but the votes had already been counted. Like counting points at the end of a football game you lost. But yeah I get it. 

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41 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

There's always a tweet:

"Loser terrorists must be dealt with in a much tougher manner. The internet is their main recruitment tool which we must cut off and use better."

---- Donald Trump, Sept. 15, 2017

Give the man prescient credit, he said "use better"...he just meant to use more efficiently to recruit and incite domestic loser domestic terrorists for his own gain.  

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Penelope's favorite Twitter posting, Q realtor is going to be arrested by the FBI.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-ryan-texas-real-estate-agent-who-flew-to-dc-on-private-jet-arrested-in-capitol-riots

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In one now-deleted video, she filmed herself in a crowd going into the Capitol through the Rotunda entrance. She walked past broken windows, up some stairs, and said, “We are going to fucking go in here. Life or death, it doesn’t matter. Here we go.”

Then, she turned to the camera and added, “Y’all know who to hire for your realtor. Jenna Ryan for your realtor.”

The banality of evil.

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24 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

 

And this....is why we are fucked and will continue to be fucked.

One of our two political parties is all-in on batshit fucking insanity.

And as I've had to explain to countless clients over the years, when they are vexed by an opposing party that is being utterly irrational, and they ask me "why won't they just be reasonable?"  I have to explain "well, this sounds simplistic, but it really is this simple: they won't be reasonable because they are unreasonable.  And you can't make someone unreasonable choose to be reasonable by appealing to their sense of reason."

We will never be able to deal with the GOP.  Ever.

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Semantics, but the votes had already been counted. Like counting points at the end of a football game you lost. But yeah I get it. 

No they had not.  The counting was happening on Jan 6 in the joint session of Congress.  That was an official government event to count the EC votes and certify the electoral votes from all 50 states.  They were on Arizona (Alaska, and Alabama were counted) when the rioters breached the capitol.

The rioters literally stopped the counting by breaking in.  The reason the Joint Session resumed that night was because they were legally required to count them on Jan 6.

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And this....is why we are fucked and will continue to be fucked.

One of our two political parties is all-in on batshit fucking insanity.

And as I've had to explain to countless clients over the years, when they are vexed by an opposing party that is being utterly irrational, and they ask me "why won't they just be reasonable?"  I have to explain "well, this sounds simplistic, but it really is this simple: they won't be reasonable because they are unreasonable.  And you can't make someone unreasonable choose to be reasonable by appealing to their sense of reason."

We will never be able to deal with the GOP.  Ever.

NO--it's actually why you are wrong.  The Republican Party is completely split.  Right down the middle.  It's a latter-day Whig Party.

After Bleeding Kansas, you couldn't have a party with both abolitionists and slaveowners.  It wouldn't work. 

The Republican Party is a party that has both classical liberals and authoritarians.  That works for awhile.  But not after January 6.  That was Bleeding Kansas.  That was a pick-your-side event.

The Whig Party broke up into the Republican Party and the Know-Nothings.  Don't be surprised to see the Republican Party break up into the Whigs and the Know-Nothings.

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3 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

No they had not.  The counting was happening on Jan 6 in the joint session of Congress.  That was an official government event to count the EC votes and certify the electors from all 50 states.  They were on Arizona (Alaska, and Alabama were counted) when the rioters breached the capitol.

The rioters literally stopped the counting by breaking in.  The reason the Joint Session resumed that night was because they were legally required to count them on Jan 6.

You are correct.  But Red Five is right in the sense that the whole electoral count thing is kind of a needless ceremony.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

You are correct.  But Red Five is right in the sense that the whole electoral count thing is kind of a needless ceremony.

Point of order!

The outcome was a foregone conclusion, yes.  But the count had not been submitted for the record.  It's like thinking that setting the date makes you married, the ceremony may be a ceremony but it is part of making it official.

This was the whole argument behind the protests being scheduled for that date.  Trump wanted to delay certification and get states to send in a new set of votes.  It was the reason he called Raffensberger.

It's bullshit but it was the last hurdle.

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4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

NO--it's actually why you are wrong.  The Republican Party is completely split.  Right down the middle.  It's a latter-day Whig Party.

After Bleeding Kansas, you couldn't have a party with both abolitionists and slaveowners.  It wouldn't work. 

The Republican Party is a party that has both classical liberals and authoritarians.  That works for awhile.  But not after January 6.  That was Bleeding Kansas.  That was a pick-your-side event.

The Whig Party broke up into the Republican Party and the Know-Nothings.  Don't be surprised to see the Republican Party break up into the Whigs and the Know-Nothings.

I can't make up my mind on this.

On the one hand, brisket is very right that the electoral "attitude" that gave us Trump in the first place is probably alive and well  and dangerously close to an electoral majority if voter turnout drops.

On the other, it's a very fractious lot, and although there seem to be plenty willing to take up Trump's mantle, I don't think there's any one person that can galvanize them the way he did.

And the GOP seems divided among "true believers" and cynical opportunists, and if someone can't galvanize the electoral fractious lot to back the GOP fractious lot, all would seem to be lost.

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NO--it's actually why you are wrong.  The Republican Party is completely split.  Right down the middle.  It's a latter-day Whig Party.

After Bleeding Kansas, you couldn't have a party with both abolitionists and slaveowners.  It wouldn't work. 

The Republican Party is a party that has both classical liberals and authoritarians.  That works for awhile.  But not after January 6.  That was Bleeding Kansas.  That was a pick-your-side event.

The Whig Party broke up into the Republican Party and the Know-Nothings.  Don't be surprised to see the Republican Party break up into the Whigs and the Know-Nothings.

Wrong-o, moose-breath.

The GOP will not split.  Wanna know why?  It's a recipe with the following ingredients:

1) a craven ambition and lust for power, at the expense of literally ANY ideas and principles; the GOP literally stands for nothing except perpetuating itself and its power (see its unprecedented OFFICIAL party platform, which was, in its entirety, "whatever Trump says.")  No party in American history has completely abandoned ALL semblance of ideas and principles for a cult of personality.

2) much better data and analytics on party support and voter makeup.  The GOP knows EXACTLY the numbers it will take to win.  And as noted above....winning is the ONLY principle they have.

 

The GOP has put itself in a tough position.  They KNOW that they can't win WITHOUT the Trumpist base.  So, they ask the question....can we win WITH them?  We've seen GOP voters, and we've seen GOP politicians.....they may hem and haw, but ultimately, they'll come home.  The GOP could openly adopt the swastika as its symbol, and "Trump uber alles" as its motto.....and the supposedly reluctant GOP voters and politicians will come home.  They'll rationalize, justify, and excuse.....and then raise their hand in full salute to their fuhrer, blaming "the left" for MAKING them do that.  You've seen this show.  Every episode is a repeat.

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Wrong-o, moose-breath.

The GOP will not split.  Wanna know why?  It's a recipe with the following ingredients:

1) a craven ambition and lust for power, at the expense of literally ANY ideas and principles; the GOP literally stands for nothing except perpetuating itself and its power (see its unprecedented OFFICIAL party platform, which was, in its entirety, "whatever Trump says.")  No party in American history has completely abandoned ALL semblance of ideas and principles for a cult of personality.

2) much better data and analytics on party support and voter makeup.  The GOP knows EXACTLY the numbers it will take to win.  And as noted above....winning is the ONLY principle they have.

 

The GOP has put itself in a tough position.  They KNOW that they can't win WITHOUT the Trumpist base.  So, they ask the question....can we win WITH them?  We've seen GOP voters, and we've seen GOP politicians.....they may hem and haw, but ultimately, they'll come home.  The GOP could openly adopt the swastika as its symbol, and "Trump uber alles" as its motto.....and the supposedly reluctant GOP voters and politicians will come home.  They'll rationalize, justify, and excuse.....and then raise their hand in full salute to their fuhrer, blaming "the left" for MAKING them do that.  You've seen this show.  Every episode is a repeat.

Counterpoint: half the people here are former Republicans.  January 6 may drive more of them towards the big tent that is the Democratic Party.

Of course, the other problem is that Democratic Party can't actually do anything when in power because the only tenet holding its supporters together is the idea that government should do things to help the people. But there is no agreement on what should be done or how it should occur.  

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7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Wrong-o, moose-breath.

The GOP will not split.  Wanna know why?  It's a recipe with the following ingredients:

1) a craven ambition and lust for power, at the expense of literally ANY ideas and principles; the GOP literally stands for nothing except perpetuating itself and its power (see its unprecedented OFFICIAL party platform, which was, in its entirety, "whatever Trump says."  No party in American history has completely abandoned ALL semblance of ideas and principles for a cult of personality.

2) much better data and analytics on party support and voter makeup.  The GOP knows EXACTLY the numbers it will take to win.  And as noted above....winning is the ONLY principle they have.

 

The GOP has put itself in a tough position.  They KNOW that they can't win WITHOUT the Trumpist base.  So, they ask the question....can we win WITH them?  We've seen GOP voters, and we've seen GOP politicians.....they may hem and haw, but ultimately, they'll come home.  The GOP could openly adopt the swastika as its symbol, and "Trump uber alles" as its motto.....and the supposedly reluctant GOP voters and politicians will come home.  They'll rationalize, justify, and excuse.....and then raise their hand in full salute to their fuhrer, blaming "the left" for MAKING them do that.  You've seen this show.  Every episode is a repeat.

What you outlined isn't significantly different from the Whig Party in 1852.  Yes, the Republican platform of 2020 was gross in its non-substance.  But take a look a the 1852 Whig Platform.  You can't tell me that it is significantly more substantive (especially on the key issue of the day).

The Party's complete lack of unifying ideas or ideology is a bug, not a feature.  It's a weakness; a sign of a dying party.

The Trumpist base isn't going to turn out to vote for establishment GOP candidates.  We've now seen that in multiple elections (most recently in the Georgia runoff).  But for whom will they turnout?  Only Trump combines the necessary conspiratorial bona fides, the overt racism, and the celebrity--and don't underestimate the role of celebrity--that one would need to motivate so many of these people who never otherwise vote.

And without those Trumpist votes, which only show up for Trump, the GOP is not a winning party.  It's not a party that can perpetuate itself and its power.  And since, as you rightly point out, that's the only attraction it has, how does it remain a party at all?

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It is very telling that the lawmakers she's talking about never really try to refute arguments and criticism like this. They just say, "oh yeah? well you're a socialist!" 
Whenever they engage with her on the merits, at least on twitter, it's always a bloodbath. 

GOP’s responses range from “I strenuously object” to “You’re a lousy fucking softball player!”
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And this....is why we are fucked and will continue to be fucked.
One of our two political parties is all-in on batshit fucking insanity.
And as I've had to explain to countless clients over the years, when they are vexed by an opposing party that is being utterly irrational, and they ask me "why won't they just be reasonable?"  I have to explain "well, this sounds simplistic, but it really is this simple: they won't be reasonable because they are unreasonable.  And you can't make someone unreasonable choose to be reasonable by appealing to their sense of reason."
We will never be able to deal with the GOP.  Ever.

Will be interested in seeing the numbers of party identification. 60% of 30% aint as bad.
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What you outlined isn't significantly different from the Whig Party in 1852.  Yes, the Republican platform of 2020 was gross in its non-substance.  But take a look a the 1852 Whig Platform.  You can't tell me that it is significantly more substantive (especially on the key issue of the day).

The Party's complete lack of unifying ideas or ideology is a bug, not a feature.  It's a weakness; a sign of a dying party.

The Trumpist base isn't going to turn out to vote for establishment GOP candidates.  We've now seen that in multiple elections (most recently in the Georgia runoff).  But for whom will they turnout?  Only Trump combines the necessary conspiratorial bona fides, the overt racism, and the celebrity--and don't underestimate the role of celebrity--that one would need to motivate so many of these people who never otherwise vote.

And without those Trumpist votes, which only show up for Trump, the GOP is not a winning party.  It's not a party that can perpetuate itself and its power.  And since, as you rightly point out, that's the only attraction it has, how does it remain a party at all?

The bolded is strong -- you put it very well.

My counterpoint isn't so much a counterpoint at all, rather than discussing the next step.  The party is slowly committing suicide.  On that we agree.  My point simply expands on that, and observes that this is how they're doing it:

 

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How does it remain a party at all?  Well, by doubling, tripling down on its only real electoral strategy: deny as many people as possible the right to vote, and contest all votes that are cast.  They WILL get better at it.  Desperate people can get pretty imaginative.

But ultimately, they'll face the reality that they cannot hold on to power by electoral means.  If you want to hold on to power, no matter what, and you can't win it at the ballot box, what do you do?

 

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Except next time, they do it much better, with an actual plan (or, they do something different, but with the same goals -- a violent coup).  If you want power desperately, but cannot take it with votes, you'll just decide to take it by other means.

It's not just that the GOP is a terrorist seditionist movement.  It's that ultimately, it's the only long-term viable path left to them.  What happened on 1/6 was inevitable.  And it's inevitable that some other iteration of it will happen again.

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This guy was put in place After the election when Trump fired Esper. So this is what he says today probably because he gives no fucks. More and more it seems he might have been put here to go along things that didn't transpire. Fuck this guy.

 

I don't see how that last bit is damning....shit, I say the exact same things.  Russia is whooping our ass, and destroying us from the inside, with a pair of 4s.....because they are REALLY fucking good at playing poker, and we've become REALLY fucking bad at it.  Russia is Appalachian State making Alabama shoot itself in the foot repeatedly.  From the perspective of a geopolitical observer, tip of the hat - they are playing things masterfully.

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The bolded is strong -- you put it very well.

My counterpoint isn't so much a counterpoint at all, rather than discussing the next step.  The party is slowly committing suicide.  On that we agree.  My point simply expands on that, and observes that this is how they're doing it:

 

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How does it remain a party at all?  Well, by doubling, tripling down on its only real electoral strategy: deny as many people as possible the right to vote, and contest all votes that are cast.  They WILL get better at it.  Desperate people can get pretty imaginative.

But ultimately, they'll face the reality that they cannot hold on to power by electoral means.  If you want to hold on to power, no matter what, and you can't win it at the ballot box, what do you do?

 

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Except next time, they do it much better, with an actual plan (or, they do something different, but with the same goals -- a violent coup).  If you want power desperately, but cannot take it with votes, you'll just decide to take it by other means.

It's not just that the GOP is a terrorist seditionist movement.  It's that ultimately, it's the only long-term viable path left to them.  What happened on 1/6 was inevitable.  And it's inevitable that some other iteration of it will happen again.

Ok--all that I agree with.

But here's the thing: domestic terrorist movements have only been successful when backed by successful political parties (i.e., the Ku Klux Klan from 1875-1965).  Domestic terrorist movements that haven't had the support of a successful political party have died away.

If the Republican Party dies--and it appears well on its way to doing so--the terrorist movement that supports it will likely go with it.

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This guy was put in place After the election when Trump fired Esper. So this is what he says today probably because he gives no fucks. More and more it seems he might have been put here to go along things that didn't transpire. Fuck this guy.

 

Claw back this dude’s paycheck.

 

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On a recent 538 podcast, they speculated on a theoretical Republican primary held tomorrow... Mitt Romney vs Trump.  Someone guessed 85-15 for Trump, which sounds about right.  
 

To state the obvious:  the current pro-Trump polling among the GOP *even after the murderous riots* shines a light on how thoroughly the party has lost its fucking mind.  
 

Anderson Cooper summed it up really well when he observed that GOP congressmen refuse to do the right thing lest they risk giving up the fantastic parking spot they currently enjoy at Dulles.  

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On a recent 538 podcast, they speculated on a theoretical Republican primary held tomorrow... Mitt Romney vs Trump.  Someone guessed 85-15 for Trump, which sounds about right.  
 

To state the obvious:  the current pro-Trump polling among the GOP *even after the murderous riots* shines a light on how thoroughly the party has lost its fucking mind.  
 

Anderson Cooper summed it up really well when he observed that GOP congressmen refuse to do the right thing lest they risk giving up the fantastic parking spot they currently enjoy at Dulles.  

Well.....there's also an element of "we created a monster that we told to kill anyone who is not loyal to Trump....so if we're disloyal to Trump, they might just kill US."  And they aren't wrong.  They created a monster that they have no control over anymore.  The monster controls them.

Yeah, and Trump beats Romney 85-15.  Trump is king, or kingmaker, of the GOP from now until.....he decides not to be.

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Will be interested in seeing the numbers of party identification. 60% of 30% aint as bad.

This is what people forget. The latest number I saw is 25%. Olds are dying and the youth are having none of this fascist bullshit. Yes you still see a large chunk of independents voting Republican reflexively but I don’t see that continuing after what happened on the 6th. The trumpers on my fb feed are all radio silent and the “conservatives” are all posting 10 day picture challenges of their kids 

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