The US Capitol has been Breached [Action and Developing stories]

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

Just now, Dahobbs said:

No. You're just wrong here. This isn't any place. This wasn't any time. It was the Capitol with Congress in session and multiple individuals in the line of secession in the building. An overwhelming display of force was warranted to keep things from escalating the way they did. The Capitol Police failed (and perhaps assisted in the attack). Those people could not be allowed into a room with almost all the critical members of our government. Any and all force could have and should have been used as soon as that became a possibility. 

Not only that, does anyone believe those armaments they found later would NOT have been used had they succeeded a little further? When it was first reported that someone had been shot, that was pretty much when I broke down. I was certain it had been some aide or other staff member just trying to evacuate. Is it wrong that I was relieved that it was a terrorist? Too bad. She crossed the line the minute she went through the doors without permission--and I don't care if the cops themselves told her 'hey we're with you.' We give Congress power, but we should only take it from them the way we are designed to do--via elections.

17 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Mine were asking me to go back on my Facebook feed and prove I condemned the violence in Seattle and Portland this summer....

Yeah, these people are fucking brainwashed.  

Any of them male? Can they go back and account for all of their sperm that were killed and whether they condemned in public the violence of them not being able to control themselves in that regard? That's about how much sense the Facebook people make, so yeah, brainwashed.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

1 minute ago, MoJames said:

I hope you are wrong, I'm afraid you are not.

I’m not wrong because the response to this incident is catastrophically pathetic. The red team won yesterday. They are emboldened, not deterred because the consequences are laughably insufficient to non-existent. 

 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,968]

8 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

 

I'm going to repeat this every time someone mentions the arrests. 47 of those 52 arrests were for breaking curfew. Fucking inexcusable 

It's possible that that was just the easiest charge to arrest on and that more charges will be tacked on later.

[Nivek 16,853]

there is nothing "beautiful" about that.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the rioters, but nothing about that makes me feel good.

Those cops with the M4s failed to defend the country, the Capitol, and the people. They are vile.

[smuggs 9,342]

3 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

She also had a backpack on.  What was in the backpack?

Papers. Just papers. Uh, you know... my papers. Business papers.

[Blotto 23,428]

3 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

We are not in disagreement on this case. Protect the line of succession. Protect every sitting member of Congress and anybody else who works for them. I was more commenting on the shoot every person who pokes their head in any door or window of the capital when the occupants have taken shelter in one room already.

Bulllshit. Storming the nation's capital comes with consequences. At least it should. Everyone of those motherfuckers had choices ranging from staying the fuck at home, to at worst peacefully protesting outside the barriers. If I was running the show, there would be a lot more arrests coming and jail time for all in Federal prison.

Not for protesting, I'm all for the right to protest. They went about 5 steps past that. If our jails are too full, let out all the dudes in there for selling weed. Gonna be legal soon anyway. The internet is full of these fucking morons openly talking about a storm, a revolution, etc... You don't let that slide. As they say, you take a swing at the king, you best not miss.

Start with Trump and work your way down. 

[MoJames 8,241]

29 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yikes.  Christ.

Still have a nagging belief that that shooting was unwarranted.

Comments like this just give me no hope.

[Homercles 10,205]

39 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

If you haven't seen this, it is fucking beautiful. This is the Q-anon chick eating a bullet. It is a tragedy that every Trump supporter that attacked the Capitol didn't die the exact same way.

 

 

Looks like he’s wearing a suit.  So secret service has a lot of merit. 
 

edit: y’all beat me to it 

Edited January 7, 2021 by Homercles

[TexArcher 37,508]

4 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

These freaks are emboldened.
Many more will die.

This is what I'm afraid of.  But then again I thought many more would die yesterday.  

I think we'll know soon.  Either they shot their wad yesterday or the news that the election was certified overnight will set them off today.

But I also wouldn't be anywhere near the inauguration on the 20th.

It's crazy how far this has gone.  

[Js1 85,095]

1 minute ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

It's possible that that was just the easiest charge to arrest on and that more charges will be tacked on later.

Oh yeah, I'm sure the highest levels of Trump's FBI and DOJ are working on charges as we speak

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

2 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

It's possible that that was just the easiest charge to arrest on and that more charges will be tacked on later.

Maybe. I took it as they didn't do shit until the night crew stepped in and the only law broken at that time was curfew. The other few arrests were weapons charges 

[Ghost of LL 15,477]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fair.  I don't know all the details.  I had originally thought she was shot from behind by the aforementioned M4 wielding dude.

I try to look at all sides of the thing and it's a little hard to escape the notion that she was  a small, unarmed woman, yes acting aggressively, but not yet a real, deadly threat to another person.  And now she's dead.

And, I'm not saying anyone is yet employing a double standard.  But I think it's something to be mindful of, when you are sympathetic/not sympathetic to the deceased's "cause."

 

28 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yikes.  Christ.

Still have a nagging belief that that shooting was unwarranted.

 

Ok--let's just cut to the chase here: FUCK YOU!

This isn't a police-brutality situation.  This was a violent insurrection aimed at overthrowing the government.  At that point, the government doesn't have to wait for its agents to believe that their personal lives are in danger before employing deadly force.  They can use deadly force because the life of the government itself is threatened.

She took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States.  Instead, she participated in a violent insurrection to prevent Congress from carrying out the Constitution's requirements.  The was a traitor.  The only thing unfortunate about her death is that it wasn't that of a traitor--at the end of a rope.

Death to Traitors!

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,968]

1 minute ago, Blotto said:

Bulllshit. Storming the nation's capital comes with consequences. At least it should. Everyone of those motherfuckers had choices ranging from staying the fuck at home, to at worst peacefully protesting outside the barriers. If I was running the show, there would be a lot more arrests coming and jail time for all in Federal prison.

Not for protesting, I'm all for the right to protest. They went about 5 steps past that. If our jails are too full, let out all the dudes in there for selling weed. Gonna be legal soon anyway. The internet is full of these fucking morons openly talking about a storm, a revolution, etc... You don't let that slide. As they say, you take a swing at the king, you best not miss.

Start with Trump and work your way down. 

If you missed my earlier post, I said that only because it might be more useful to set up a perimeter and arrest every one of them in order to flush out foreign agents and their espionage cells as well as domestic terrorism cells.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,093]

18 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

State Bar of Texas  tweeted this out

 

Does this mean we can all send in a grievance to have Ted Traitor Cruz disbarred?

[Aqua Buddha 14,501]

12 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

 

 

Ill take cognitive dissonance for $2000 Alex.  

I like the Secret Service took her out with one shot but the Capitol police are behind them with AR's and look completely confused.

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Did you guys know there are hundreds of thousands of antifa people who dress up as MAGA people just to make Trump look bad?

[ChiTownDoc 21,098]

13 minutes ago, pacman said:

They already had shirts printed in advance...

 

Brisket was right.  So was I.  I said it would last a couple hrs with a couple casualties.  I didn’t think the only side sustaining casualties would be the mouth breathers but here we are.  Well done, dipshits.  

[TwiceHorn 31,265]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

 

Ok--let's just cut to the chase here: FUCK YOU!

This isn't a police-brutality situation.  This was a violent insurrection aimed at overthrowing the government.  At that point, the government doesn't have to wait for its agents to believe that their personal lives are in danger before employing deadly force.  They can use deadly force because the life of the government itself is threatened.

She took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States.  Instead, she participated in a violent insurrection to prevent Congress from carrying out the Constitution's requirements.  The was a traitor.  The only thing unfortunate about her death is that it wasn't that of a traitor--at the end of a rope.

Death to Traitors!

Well, this is a very lawyerly take.

[DaysOff 7,851]

I like the Secret Service took her out with one shot but the Capitol police are behind them with AR's and look completely confused.

Which group has higher admission standards and training?

[Aqua Buddha 14,501]

3 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Did you guys know there are hundreds of thousands of antifa people who dress up as MAGA people just to make Trump look bad?

Maybe they were Trump supporters dressed up as ANTIFA pretending to be Trump supporters.  Ever thought about that?

[wildcat09 29,226]

9 minutes ago, yoladu said:

there is nothing "beautiful" about that.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the rioters, but nothing about that makes me feel good.

This is where I'm at. Most of the people there were dumb and/or people with some mental issues who were manipulated and radicalized by people who bear more of the real blame. They were largely unarmed and were basically LARPing revolution without any real clear goals. That's not to say they wouldn't have gleefully participated in violence.  But the real threat are the smaller number of people who used them as cover to sneak in with guns, bombs, zip ties, etc. with a real intent to kill members of Congress and serious plans for how to accomplish that.

Those guys help radicalize the idiots so they can use the idiots for concealment in situations just like this. And Republicans like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley fucking know that and knew that actual violent nazis might be planning something like this, and cynically helped incite the morons anyway because they thought it might be good for their political careers. They should be expelled from Congress and shunned from society for the rest of their lives. 

[Mole 4,320]

What has struck me about the interviews with the terrorists is the casual disengagement from reality. I saw a video of a terrorist couple, arm in arm and walking away from the capitol. Two terrorist love birds having a romantic coup attempt.

She had been pepper sprayed and looked and sounded like she felt she was the victim, much like we saw in the protests this summer. When asked why she was there, she said — not metaphorically— for the “revolution.”

She participated in an attack on congress to overthrow the government and yet she seemed aggrieved because she was pepper sprayed. It was like she was just playing around. There’s too much make-believe and gleeful untethering from reality going on. I can’t wrap my mind around it, but I see it everywhere these days.

[BurntOrange&White 39,621]

49 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

If you haven't seen this, it is fucking beautiful. This is the Q-anon chick eating a bullet. It is a tragedy that every Trump supporter that attacked the Capitol didn't die the exact same way.

 

 

I'm assuming whomever was behind those doors in the offices area  was very important?

[Mole 4,320]

6 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Brisket was right.  So was I.  I said it would last a couple hrs with a couple casualties.  I didn’t think the only side sustaining casualties would be the mouth breathers tazing their own testicles but here we are.  Well done, dipshits.  

FIFY

[Red Five 40,633]

Crying about being sprayed. Yeah, imagine storming the capitol while both houses are in session and the VP is inside. Breaking through barricades, smashing windows, etc. You would 100% know that would be a one-way trip and you would be shot immediately. 

[Ghost of LL 15,477]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, this is a very lawyerly take.

It also happens to be an accurate take.

[Js1 85,095]

11 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

 

Ok--let's just cut to the chase here: FUCK YOU!

This isn't a police-brutality situation.  This was a violent insurrection aimed at overthrowing the government.  At that point, the government doesn't have to wait for its agents to believe that their personal lives are in danger before employing deadly force.  They can use deadly force because the life of the government itself is threatened.

She took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States.  Instead, she participated in a violent insurrection to prevent Congress from carrying out the Constitution's requirements.  The was a traitor.  The only thing unfortunate about her death is that it wasn't that of a traitor--at the end of a rope.

Death to Traitors!

We have A LOT of things to look into, but the radicalization of military members is becoming a huge issue.  Who or what is radicalizing them into turning against their country and the oath they swore to uphold? 

[Francisco 2.0 32,318]

Yeah.  Picture.  1000 words.  Yada.

 

 

 

[yoladu 4,066]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

I'm assuming whomever was behind those doors in the offices area  was very important?

that is my take, as other have said, this threshold was likely a bridge too far. LIOs up to that point had been pretty damn tolerant.

[Steamboat1874 4,032]

5 minutes ago, Mole said:

What has struck me about the interviews with the terrorists is the casual disengagement from reality. I saw a video of a terrorist couple, arm in arm and walking away from the capitol. Two terrorist love birds having a romantic coup attempt.

She had been pepper sprayed and looked and sounded like she felt she was the victim, much like we saw in the protests this summer. When asked why she was there, she said — not metaphorically— for the “revolution.”

She participated in an attack on congress to overthrow the government and yet she seemed aggrieved because she was pepper sprayed. It was like she was just playing around. There’s too much make-believe and gleeful untethering from reality going on. I can’t wrap my mind around it, but I see it everywhere these days.

Are you talking about the girl with an onion in her towel that she was using to rub her eyes?

[TXSG8R 3,360]

3 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I like the Secret Service took her out with one shot but the Capitol police are behind them with AR's and look completely confused.

Yea, it seemed like there was a standing order with the capitol police to not engage the protestors.  Guys were brandishing batons but not using them.  Cops with guns were waving them around but not using them.  I get that at the first barrier, but at some point you have to have a point of no return where the RoE changes.  There absolutely should have been a layered defense.  Second barrier, start flash bangs and rubber bullets.  Third barrier you start busting heads with batons and cattle prods.  Inside the building, you start dropping people.  Its not hyperbole to say that at least a portion of this crowd wanted blood.  They were coming for Pelosi, Pence, Cheney, etc.  At best, they were going to be captured and harassed.  At worst, they were going to carry out the logical conclusion to all of Trump/Q/Right wing rhetoric and kill members of our government.  The response should have reflected that danger, and each line breached should have had an appropriate response. 

The crowd around Bigo aren't going to be affected by him being arrested a week later.  All the crowd saw was that guy waltz into Pelosi's office, have a good time, and take shit.  They will think they can do the same next time around.  

[Captainant 27,442]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

We have A LOT of things to look into, but the radicalization of military members is becoming a huge issue.  Who or what is radicalizing them into turning against their country and the oath they swore to uphold? 

if my 15 year, Army captain brother in law is anything to go by, mainly facebook meme pages. Dude has a company-level command, believes some crazy shit and is conditioned to defer to authority figures, it's wild.

[Js1 85,095]

1 minute ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Are you talking about the girl with an onion in her towel that she was using to rub her eyes?

Did she take it off her belt? That is the style of the time. 

[OU Sucks 8,745]

10 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Yeah, I heard that yesterday when it happened. If you were thinking, “This is day old news which no one took seriously at the time and which never came to pass so why am I posting this?” then yes, I’m thinking what you’re thinking. Otherwise I don’t  know wtf you’re thinking. 

I was joking about how if Iranian terrorists actually had that plan in place, there's a fair chance that they would have taken out the Trump terrorists.  2 birds, 1 stone.

[TwiceHorn 31,265]

2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

It also happens to be an accurate emotional take.

 

As stupid and contemptible as what she did was, it was not treason.

It was insurrection, with a 10 year maximum penalty.  Or seditious conspiracy with 20 year max.

You don't get to make it into a no-due-process death penalty offense by shrieking "traitor."

You are better than that.

I could fully endorse her being beaten, but I'm not going to endorse her being shot.

[TXSG8R 3,360]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Yeah.  Picture.  1000 words.  Yada.

 

 

 

TIL congress doesn't use CAC cards?  

[B00M 6,280]

18 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Not only that, does anyone believe those armaments they found later would NOT have been used had they succeeded a little further? When it was first reported that someone had been shot, that was pretty much when I broke down. I was certain it had been some aide or other staff member just trying to evacuate. Is it wrong that I was relieved that it was a terrorist? Too bad. She crossed the line the minute she went through the doors without permission--and I don't care if the cops themselves told her 'hey we're with you.' We give Congress power, but we should only take it from them the way we are designed to do--via elections.

Any of them male? Can they go back and account for all of their sperm that were killed and whether they condemned in public the violence of them not being able to control themselves in that regard? That's about how much sense the Facebook people make, so yeah, brainwashed.

Have you considered logging off the internet for a day? 

Look, these dumb fucking gravy seals aren't going to over throw the US. They might do property damage, they might fuck around and kill someone, but there's no reason for you to be having a panic attack hundreds of miles away. They're losers supporting a loser.

Have you seen how concerned the fucking stock market is? It's going to be okay.

[Hawndoh 2,382]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We have A LOT of things to look into, but the radicalization of military members is becoming a huge issue.  Who or what is radicalizing them into turning against their country and the oath they swore to uphold? 

A massive number of our military were only ever military because they had no other decent options of a life after high school.

They didn't care about the oath when they took it, not did they understand it. They just knew they had to do it to get in.

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,277]

15 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Did you guys know there are hundreds of thousands of antifa people who dress up as MAGA people just to make Trump look bad?

I do! I did my own research!

[DigglerontheHoof 21,053]

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

 

As stupid and contemptible as what she did was, it was not treason.

It was insurrection, with a 10 year maximum penalty.  Or seditious conspiracy with 20 year max.

You don't get to make it into a no-due-process death penalty offense by shrieking "traitor."

You are better than that.

I could fully endorse her being beaten, but I'm not going to endorse her being shot.

And, since we believe in was SS who gunned her down, if Pelosi or others in the succession were behind those doors?

You think this is some kind of game, apparently.   We don't know what that cunt maga bitch had in mind.  They should send the EMS bill to her husband and give him 30 days to pay it in full 

[MidTexHorn 822]

https://www.mrt.com/news/article/Two-Midlanders-among-protesters-at-U-S-Capitol-15851202.php?fbclid=IwAR3W34lFwbH_2Ydiq0DWEFDlofHJVLPueZBC7yawZQEEGWXOydGPiaFbt64

I reported this bitch to the FBI and I know a few others who did as well

[TwiceHorn 31,265]

1 minute ago, Hawndoh said:

A massive number of our military were only ever military because they had no other decent options of a life after high school.

They didn't care about the oath when they took it, not did they understand it. They just knew they had to do it to get in.

 

Agreed.  Serving military would be one thing.

Veterans, as a group, are as likely to be stupid as any other group or the population at large.  Maybe worse.

[DigDug 1,649]

2 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Yeah.  Picture.  1000 words.  Yada.

 

 

 

Elija Schaeffer should be in jail Right Now.  The dumbass from Arkansas, the Texas lawyer, the Arizona qturd and everyone else posting their shit on social media, should be in jail RIGHT NOW!

Law enforcement knows who they are, all their information is online.  Get them now.

[wildcat09 29,226]

3 minutes ago, B00M said:

Have you considered logging off the internet for a day? 

Look, these dumb fucking gravy seals aren't going to over throw the US. They might do property damage, they might fuck around and kill someone, but there's no reason for you to be having a panic attack hundreds of miles away. They're losers supporting a loser.

Have you seen how concerned the fucking stock market is? It's going to be okay.

The stock market also didn't give a shit about covid until it was too late.

[Pig Bellmont 8,691]

2 minutes ago, B00M said:

Have you considered logging off the internet for a day? 

Look, these dumb fucking gravy seals aren't going to over throw the US. They might do property damage, they might fuck around and kill someone, but there's no reason for you to be having a panic attack hundreds of miles away. They're losers supporting a loser.

Have you seen how concerned the fucking stock market is? It's going to be okay.

Narrator: the stock market isn’t an accurate reflection of social unrest 

[TwiceHorn 31,265]

1 minute ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

And, since we believe in was SS who gunned her down, if Pelosi or others in the succession were behind those doors?

You think this is some kind of game, apparently.   We don't know what that cunt maga bitch had in mind.  They should send the EMS bill to her husband and give him 30 days to pay it in full 

I do not and I am not willing to make flippant remarks about it.

I'm not going to engage anyone else on this topic.

Someone died, that's not good.  I'm not going to celebrate it.

 

[MoJames 8,241]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

 

As stupid and contemptible as what she did was, it was not treason.

It was insurrection, with a 10 year maximum penalty.  Or seditious conspiracy with 20 year max.

You don't get to make it into a no-due-process death penalty offense by shrieking "traitor."

You are better than that.

I could fully endorse her being beaten, but I'm not going to endorse her being shot.

And what is your take on James Blake getting shot?

[bad_teammate 13,132]

26 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Those cops with the M4s failed to defend the country, the Capitol, and the people. They are vile.

fixed

[Goredho 17,345]

35 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Are we losing our minds?  The capital was invaded.  Not enough people were shot.  JFC

Apparently consequences for sedition and violent insurrection are going to be left to the American voters as well.

[BrickHorn 18,186]

7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

 

As stupid and contemptible as what she did was, it was not treason.

It was insurrection, with a 10 year maximum penalty.  Or seditious conspiracy with 20 year max.

You don't get to make it into a no-due-process death penalty offense by shrieking "traitor."

You are better than that.

I could fully endorse her being beaten, but I'm not going to endorse her being shot.

I generally like your takes, but fuck this. A mob riled up by the president stormed the US Capitol yesterday. They publicly and loudly declared their intent to stop Congress from certifying the election. She knowingly joined the vanguard in a coup attempt. What happened yesterday was a genuine threat to the stability of our nation. That bullet might just have saved America. 

Edited January 7, 2021 by BrickHorn