The US Capitol has been Breached [Action and Developing stories]

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

6 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

When I think of Pompeo, I maybe not so mistakenly think of some dumbass who died with his dick in his hand, self masturbatory designs for all to see in eternity.

Hits close to home. My biggest fear is my heart exploding during a whacksesh.

that and a snake swimming up the shitter and biting my nuts.

[TwiceHorn 31305]

9 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

My husband thought W really just wanted to stay governor and be a baseball team owner, mostly the baseball team owner. That's the thing about families, sometimes they want you to be something and so you try and please them and after awhile you just don't know what else to do. I've seen it in all sorts of professions. Not just the 'tiger' parents and it has its plus side but the cost can be weighty on both a personal and greater level.

Yeah. He was a decent governor and played "bipartisan."  But there's no bi to partisan in Texas and the governor doesn't really do anything.

He ran for President because he had a good time as governor and wanted to prove himself to Poppy.  I think that latter is also why he failed to consult Poppy about his cabinet and staff and by listening to Rove got the worst people in the GHWB orbit.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Hits close to home. My biggest fear is my heart exploding during a whacksesh.

that and a snake swimming up the shitter and biting my nuts.

 

Next time you get here to Texas I’ll tell you the story of the leopard frog in the deer camp toilet. I haven’t been able to piss well since.

[WhatTheBuck 28717]

10 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I really think he could have been a good peacetime president. I think we would have had a meaningful bipartisan immigration reform bill and could have gotten a good bit down the road on healthcare reform.  He was maybe the person least equipped to handle something like 9/11 and had the worst possible staff in place to negotiate the aftermath for him. 

He never intended to be a peacetime President. There was never a chance he wouldn’t be at war in Iraq when reelection time rolled around. That was baked in. 9/11 was just an excuse. And he was warned about 9/11 but did nothing. Clinton warned him that Islamic terrorism was the biggest threat to America but Bush initiated the sweeping Republican policy of, ‘If the Democrats are for it then I’m against it,’ and ignored that advice.

He was dumber than a box of rocks. He was totally unfit to be President. He failed on so many levels. It was hard to imagine that there could’ve been a worse President until Trump came along. But, as I’ve pointed out repeatedly, George W. Bush foreshadowed the administration of Donald J Trump in a thousand ways. Trump just turned them all up to 11. 

[Bullneck 19004]

10 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

My husband thought W really just wanted to stay governor and be a baseball team owner, mostly the baseball team owner. That's the thing about families, sometimes they want you to be something and so you try and please them and after awhile you just don't know what else to do. I've seen it in all sorts of professions. Not just the 'tiger' parents and it has its plus side but the cost can be weighty on both a personal and greater level.

He seems to have found his calling.

[pantone159 714]

28 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yep.  Doesn't appear to be a widespread internal co-opting, as many did their jobs.  But a select few did not.  And leadership may have been co-opted.

Also sounds like maybe certain entrances were co-opted to let people in without a fight.

And they let them all out of the building without arrest. That was NOT being taken by surprise, and was NOT without approval from the leadership. The upper level of the Capitol Police participated in an attempt to overthrow the government.

[wildcat09 29267]

24 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yep.  Doesn't appear to be a widespread internal co-opting, as many did their jobs.  But a select few did not.  And leadership may have been co-opted.

Also sounds like maybe certain entrances were co-opted to let people in without a fight.

Yeah, I think multiple people at the leadership level conspired with Trump. A guy on the Lawfare podcast described it as three points of failure: 1) intelligence about the threat; 2) lack of contingency planning; and 3) a lack of a quick response force at the ready. Taken together, if the occurrence of these three failures were actually just failures, it's a monumental security fuckup that greatly exceed the intelligence and law enforcement failures of 9/11. This threat was known. They openly talked about their plans on Parler, the Donald, and other known sites and that shit was written about by numerous journalists at many different outlets. Hell, we knew about it. There's no way they didn't.  And yet they were under-equipped, with no contingencies and no response force at the ready. That's no accident. I think it's probably likely that a few uniformed officers were all too willing to let the mob in, but the compromise was at the top.

[RDCanecutter 26291]

4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, I think multiple people at the leadership level conspired with Trump. A guy on the Lawfare podcast described it as three points of failure: 1) intelligence about the threat; 2) lack of contingency planning; and 3) a lack of a quick response force at the ready. Taken together, if the occurrence of these three failures were actually just failures, it's a monumental security fuckup that greatly exceed the intelligence and law enforcement failures of 9/11. This threat was known. They openly talked about their plans on Parler, the Donald, and other known sites and that shit was written about by numerous journalists at many different outlets. Hell, we knew about it. There's no way they didn't.  And yet they were under-equipped, with no contingencies and no response force at the ready. That's no accident. I think it's probably likely that a few uniformed officers were all too willing to let the mob in, but the compromise was at the top.

The Capitol Police had clear warning the rioters were coming through the Ardennes, and still they sent the majority of their mobile force off into Belgium.

[pantone159 714]

3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, I think multiple people at the leadership level conspired with Trump. A guy on the Lawfare podcast described it as three points of failure: 1) intelligence about the threat; 2) lack of contingency planning; and 3) a lack of a quick response force at the ready. Taken together, if the occurrence of these three failures were actually just failures, it's a monumental security fuckup that greatly exceed the intelligence and law enforcement failures of 9/11. This threat was known. They openly talked about their plans on Parler, the Donald, and other known sites and that shit was written about by numerous journalists at many different outlets. Hell, we knew about it. There's no way they didn't.  And yet they were under-equipped, with no contingencies and no response force at the ready. That's no accident. I think it's probably likely that a few uniformed officers were all too willing to let the mob in, but the compromise was at the top.

None of those points of failure explain the grotesque failure, hours after the shit started, to let everybody leave the building without arrest. Obviously the entirety of the Capitol Police was not in on this, but the organization was thoroughly compromised. It is hard to believe any other possibility.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

9 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

He seems to have found his calling.

But I looked in his eyes!  And I didn’t see dick Cheney!

[WhatTheBuck 28717]

8 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

He seems to have found his calling.

Did he capture Putin’s soul in those eyes?

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

7 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, I think multiple people at the leadership level conspired with Trump. A guy on the Lawfare podcast described it as three points of failure: 1) intelligence about the threat; 2) lack of contingency planning; and 3) a lack of a quick response force at the ready. Taken together, if the occurrence of these three failures were actually just failures, it's a monumental security fuckup that greatly exceed the intelligence and law enforcement failures of 9/11. This threat was known. They openly talked about their plans on Parler, the Donald, and other known sites and that shit was written about by numerous journalists at many different outlets. Hell, we knew about it. There's no way they didn't.  And yet they were under-equipped, with no contingencies and no response force at the ready. That's no accident. I think it's probably likely that a few uniformed officers were all too willing to let the mob in, but the compromise was at the top.

Plus that speech. He knew they were going to be able to get in.

16 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Hits close to home. My biggest fear is my heart exploding during a whacksesh.

that and a snake swimming up the shitter and biting my nuts.

Brown recluse-quiet and small. Those are the ones people miss.

 

 

 

[4th&Five 41461]

 

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

 

FAAFO Parler

[Hugo Stiglitz 23363]

Edited January 10, 2021 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Francisco 2.0 32346]

 

 

[AnTiM 1659]

2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Plus that speech. He knew they were going to be able to get in.

Brown recluse-quiet and small. Those are the ones people miss.

 

 

 

I am reminded of George Carlin's routine about one guy reading a book in the bar and another guy screaming "I'm gonna kill every motherfucker in here."  Which one are you gonna watch out for?

[Mole 4320]

6 minutes ago, pantone159 said:

None of those points of failure explain the grotesque failure, hours after the shit started, to let everybody leave the building without arrest. Obviously the entirety of the Capitol Police was not in on this, but the organization was thoroughly compromised. It is hard to believe any other possibility.

Obviously there’s a big need for intrusive investigation, but it’s worth considering that some people in positions of authority are really terrible at their jobs. Your instincts might be right that they can’t possibly be this terrible at their jobs, but it’s also possible that they’re actually that incompetent.

[TwiceHorn 31305]

 

19 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, I think multiple people at the leadership level conspired with Trump. A guy on the Lawfare podcast described it as three points of failure: 1) intelligence about the threat; 2) lack of contingency planning; and 3) a lack of a quick response force at the ready. Taken together, if the occurrence of these three failures were actually just failures, it's a monumental security fuckup that greatly exceed the intelligence and law enforcement failures of 9/11. This threat was known. They openly talked about their plans on Parler, the Donald, and other known sites and that shit was written about by numerous journalists at many different outlets. Hell, we knew about it. There's no way they didn't.  And yet they were under-equipped, with no contingencies and no response force at the ready. That's no accident. I think it's probably likely that a few uniformed officers were all too willing to let the mob in, but the compromise was at the top.

Deliberate indifference if you will.

Since we now know that some did their jobs and resisted entry, that those same officers "gave up" and went away and didn't arrest anyone on the way out seems like something very deliberate from command.

I can't help but think that some of the leniency or abdication was promoted under the false pretense of "we aren't going to make the Floyd rally mistakes again."  Hell, maybe the whole force was told that as a sort of psy op.

Edited January 10, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

That's not enough, where are the rest of them? Tick tock, Congresspersons history won't be kind to seditionists.

[wildcat09 29267]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

 

 

Deliberate indifference if you will.

Since we now know that some did their jobs and resisted entry, that those same officers "gave up" and went away and didn't arrest anyone on the way out seems like something very deliberate from command.

Well a lot of those officers were hurt and were probably no longer on scene by the time that decision was made. 

The decision to let people go is the least problematic, I think. Hell, by that point I doubt it was Capitol Police's call, as DC had essentially taken over the scene. Every single person there will be identified (hell almost all of them made it painfully easy) and will be relatively easy to round up. Most of them will only get hit with shit like trespassing. They no longer posed an immediate threat. The more pressing concern is who was responsible for the lack of preparation and who was involved with delaying the deployment of the guard once it was requested. Those are the people who will enable something like this to happen again.

[4th&Five 41461]

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Well a lot of those officers were hurt and were probably no longer on scene by the time that decision was made. 

The decision to let people go is the least problematic, I think. Hell, by that point I doubt it was Capitol Police's call, as DC had essentially taken over the scene. Every single person there will be identified (hell almost all of them made it painfully easy) and will be relatively easy to round up. Most of them will only get hit with shit like trespassing. They no longer posed an immediate threat. The more pressing concern is who was responsible for the lack of preparation and who was involved with delaying the deployment of the guard once it was requested. Those are the people who will enable something like this to happen again.

Speaking of that, Jelani Cobb with a good take here. I'll spoiler most of it for those that want to skip:

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

[Fastbreak 3959]

1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

"You ride with the outlaw, you die with the outlaw."- Gus McCrae

The other guys were fucking her, i just wanted to see what they were enjoying. I thought she was just really tired and that's why she wasn't moving. I had no idea she was drugged and underaged. She didn't produce an ID, you can't hold that against me.

[atomheartbevo 89458]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

I really think he could have been a good peacetime president. I think we would have had a meaningful bipartisan immigration reform bill and could have gotten a good bit down the road on healthcare reform.  He was maybe the person least equipped to handle something like 9/11 and had the worst possible staff in place to negotiate the aftermath for him. 

He was pushing a guest worker program, along with Ted Kennedy and John McCain (and Rick Perry and other border governors), to deal with illegal immigration - basically get them registered and known to the government, and paying taxes, etc.  So crazy that from that time (around 2006) and just 10 years later, elect somebody who swore not to let anybody in.

[Fastbreak 3959]

conference call last night:

Guy 1: So what did you guys in Ohio think of what happened at the Capital? 

Guy 2: We really didn't hear too much about it. What I did hear was it had something to do with ANTIFA and Italy was involved.

Me: Hold on. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Guy 2: I don't have cable, so I just go by what I hear.

[Js1 85135]

2 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

conference call last night:

Guy 1: So what did you guys in Ohio think of what happened at the Capital? 

Guy 2: We really didn't hear too much about it. What I did hear was it had something to do with ANTIFA and Italy was involved.

Me: Hold on. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Guy 2: I don't have cable, so I just go by what I hear.

Many people are saying....

[Hugo Stiglitz 23363]

 

[jimmyjazz 45566]

It's astonishing how many politicians get used to carte blanche language and action, simply because the guy on top numbs the entire populace with his daily indiscretions.

How hard was it to predict that being a giant shitbag would eventually haunt one's self?  "Whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't MEAN that, I just didn't make myself clear for the last 4 years!"

I don't know if it's worse that they try it, or that we buy it.  Well, that's not true, I do know what's worse, and it's shameful.

[Buzzrock 14876]

No it isnt

Oh ffs. There’s a difference between caring about the election and caring who won the election.

[Buzzrock 14876]

 

There’s a joke here somewhere about politicians picking up trash but I’ve been drinking.

[Captainant 27472]

46 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said:

 

FAAFO Parler

 

 

 

 

Betcha oracle cloud offers them a sweet deal, those fucking vultures

[Buzzrock 14876]

FAAFO Parler

I for one am shocked that Bezos doesn’t want to host Parler. I mean how did they not see that coming?

[Buzzrock 14876]

 
 

I can’t stand Chris Hayes but that’s a good tweet

[Buzzrock 14876]

 

As I was flipping around a couple days ago, I caught pompous windbag Greg Gutfeld screeching about (wtte) “the difference between us and them is we won’t be lining up to bail those guys out of jail!!!”

Vomit.

[aggie08 21436]

27 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Speaking of that, Jelani Cobb with a good take here. I'll spoiler most of it for those that want to skip:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

 

While I'm certainly not dismissing this out of hand with how batshit the past 4 years have been, I have my doubts. He wants to play golf, find somewhere he can make the occasional TV appearance or Twitter equivalent, and get paid to do a really or two. He doesn't want to lead a guerilla resistance, or spend any time organizing and planning. If those groups want to do it in his name, sure, he wouldn't object, but he's not going to spend any time bumping shoulders with these people or risking directly attaching himself to a rebellion.

[Beau Vine 54009]

1 hour ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

When I think of Pompeo, I maybe not so mistakenly think of some dumbass who died with his dick in his hand, self masturbatory designs for all to see in eternity.

Malaka Pompeo!

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

While I'm certainly not dismissing this out of hand with how batshit the past 4 years have been, I have my doubts. He wants to play golf, find somewhere he can make the occasional TV appearance or Twitter equivalent, and get paid to do a really or two. He doesn't want to lead a guerilla resistance, or spend any time organizing and planning. If those groups want to do it in his name, sure, he wouldn't object, but he's not going to spend any time bumping shoulders with these people or risking directly attaching himself to a rebellion.

Did you watch or read the transcript of the entire rally speech that day? If not, please. Please read it. He is a madman.

[Buzzrock 14876]

Betcha oracle cloud offers them a sweet deal, those fucking vultures

Alibaba be like I got you fam

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

This was a gut punch.

 

[Francisco 2.0 32346]

Fuck you Kellyanne, you opportunistic shrewcunt.

 

 

 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

9 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

While I'm certainly not dismissing this out of hand with how batshit the past 4 years have been, I have my doubts. He wants to play golf, find somewhere he can make the occasional TV appearance or Twitter equivalent, and get paid to do a really or two. He doesn't want to lead a guerilla resistance, or spend any time organizing and planning. If those groups want to do it in his name, sure, he wouldn't object, but he's not going to spend any time bumping shoulders with these people or risking directly attaching himself to a rebellion.

Yeah, there is no way. He isn't a personal risk taker. Right now he is scared shitless. Once he isn't President and loses immunity, he will quiet down significantly. He ain't moving into a cave like Bin Laden or even holing himself up with a bunch of his followers while they are under siege from the FBI. Others will carry on, perhaps in his name, but he won't say a word about it and probably won't even give his endorsement any longer. 

[RDCanecutter 26291]

11 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Malaka Pompeo!

Malaka na peis to proto sou paidi!

[B00M 6280]

3 hours ago, Gourmand said:

Yep. That question Biden answered yesterday where he ventured into the history books of Nazi Germany and got #TraitorTed all kerfuffled....that was just 

Video? SIAP

[Bozo_Casanova 26299]

Lolz

 

 

[Guadaloopy 10927]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

I think I could stomach living in NJ just to vote for someone like Rep. Kim.  

[B00M 6280]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

This isn't being presented clearly on the right. Friday morning KLBJ Austin said he sustained an injury but collapsed when he returned to his office, then died.  ~36 hours later I read here, he was hit with a fire hydrant...?!

[Biff Tannen 45502]

4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Lolz

 

 

Dude Parler is straight up FBI

[Guadaloopy 10927]

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Lolz

 

 

[B00M 6280]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Dude Parler is straight up FBI

Then wtf happened Wednesday???