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elfenix
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a big fuck you but at least now you can stop fucking up the rest of the board spewing thinly-veiled political bullshit while pretending you're not.

crash_davis
crash_davis

If you are still a Trump supporter through all of this bullshit FUCK YOU. You're a deranged fucking cult idiot.

Biff Tannen
Biff Tannen

Conservatives?  A lot of those have been here the whole time.  I think you mean seditious traitors and/or fascists.

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Shaddie

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1 minute ago, Bravo said:

Now this is a fine job of trolling. Pay attention @Ag with kids this is how you do it. 

I am trolling? Neither of you have answered simple questions. You claim we call you names and I have asked for examples. 
 
Did Trump lie about the election? Be a man and claim your spot. 
 

However you and ag know if you say yes your arguments will be hollow. If you say no you will be known as a QAnon. 

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TwiceHorn

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1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

I've made a lot of good points.

You disagree with them.  Sorry.

Go back and look at my posts.  I post links to information to back up my points.  You've tossed Insult grenades at me.

In particular, trying to point up Hillary bitching about her loss on a couple of occasions and trying to equate that with what Trump has done for the last year, was disingenuous, at best.

Similarly, attempting to minimize the events of 1/6 by pointing to protestors/rioters, is disingenuous.

I do note that there is a species of Republican that seems to remain deliberately ignorant of the foibles of Trump and the trumpkins in order to just "vote against" the libruls.  Maybe that's you.

Also, your early invocation of "full blown socialism" kind of shredded your credibility.

Finally, I try to avoid personal insults and attacks.  If I did that, I apologize.  The only thing that comes to mind is responding "that's stupid" to your attempt to equate Trump and Hillary.  And that wasn't so much directed at you as at the argument.

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16 minutes ago, Bravo said:

You want someone banned because they won't answer a question to your satisfaction? Cancel culture at its finest. 

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I don’t want him banned. He can post all he wants in purgatory. But if he wants to participate in this thread, he should answer a simple yes or no question.

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20 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

Even my dad who stated that Democrats are trying to oppress Americans at Thanksgiving dinner today and informed me that he’s getting his news from Newsmax now has admitted out loud that Trump has been lying his ass off about the 2020 election.

an early christmas miracle!

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Ag with Kids: water is made of nitrogen and oxygen 

Everyone: here is data proving water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen 

Ag with kids: but it’s not 

Everyone: more heaps of data, scientific, empirical and theoretical. 

Ag with kids: Nitrogen is basically the same as Hydrogen 

Everyone: you’re a troll

Ag with kids: per usual, CR bans anyone that doesn’t agree with them 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Can you read the question that's been posed to you umpteen times? Do you not understand it?

I'll ask it in Morse code - figure that might help.

-.. .. -.. / - .-. ..- -- .--. / .-.. .. . / .- -... --- ..- - / . .-.. . -.-. - .. --- -. / ..-. .-. .- ..- -.. ..--..

 

Yes.

Now.  Did Hillary Clinton and the vast majority of the Democratic Party lie about Russian collusion?

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47 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I just noticed @Ag with kids has not given an answer to the question of whether the election was stolen from trump

@immamac I’m about as anti ban as they come, but I say if he doesn’t answer the question with a simple yes or no by this time tomorrow he should get sent to purgatory until he answers

No.  It wasn't stolen.

Now.  Can you start actually discussing real issues instead of your stupid fucking talking points that you think make you look SOOPER SMART here on Surly?

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6 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Ag with Kids: water is made of nitrogen and oxygen 

Everyone: here is data proving water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen 

Ag with kids: but it’s not 

Everyone: more heaps of data, scientific, empirical and theoretical. 

Ag with kids: Nitrogen is basically the same as Hydrogen 

Everyone: you’re a troll

Ag with kids: per usual, CR bans anyone that doesn’t agree with them 

 

 

 

WOW.  That's actually the dumbest thing I've seen posted on Surly and Shaggy and Hornfans.

Congrats!!!!  You win the award!!!!

Would you like some crayons to eat?

 

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3 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Yes.

Now.  Did Hillary Clinton and the vast majority of the Democratic Party lie about Russian collusion?

So Trump lies started this whole Jan6 fiasco that you claim never happened. 
 

So show me the mobs descending on Capitol Hill for Hillary. 
 

I will say the 1st part of recovery is admitting you have a problem. 

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1 minute ago, Bravo said:

Hint. They won't believe you. I've seen this play out a countless times. They want to put you in some box of someone who is a subhuman Trumper they can extract their hate upon. 

Well, this whole discussion was propelled by a lot of former Republicans' complete disgust with the GOP's debasement at the feet of the fat, orange idiot.  The largest of his transgression is the big lie.  And Republicans will not repudiate it, and those that do are shunned and excommunicated.

So you admit the fundamental premise that the big lie, is, in fact, a lie.

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OK, I have to ask because this sounds like a CNN talking point or Occupy Democrats phrase. The big lie? I think I know what you mean from the discussion but this is definitely a preprogrammed phrase regurgitated as your own. 

Speaker Pelosi and others have called it that directly. it's not a talking point. It's exactly what it is. A big fucking lie. And it shouldn't be called anything else.

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2 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Hint. They won't believe you. I've seen this play out a countless times. They want to put you in some box of someone who is a subhuman Trumper they can extract their hate upon. 

I know.  I've seen it here numerous times.

It's why I usually don't post here.

Hornfans was decent discourse.  Shaggy was rude as fuck, but decent discourse.  Surly is the DemocraticUnderground but with Burnt Orange colors on all the posts.

 

Like I've posted here - I can't answer every post towards me since I get WAY too many posts/attacks between each of my posts.  And I try to back up my posts with links...oh well.

 

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!

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4 minutes ago, Bravo said:

OK, I have to ask because this sounds like a CNN talking point or Occupy Democrats phrase. The big lie? I think I know what you mean from the discussion but this is definitely a preprogrammed phrase regurgitated as your own. 

The Big Lie...they're trying to tie this to Goebbels...

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3 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Im wrong about what? You being bought and sold for by the media you consume? BTW I don't have to go to reddit to see a thread celebrating COVID deaths. There is one in the CR 40 pages long. 

What media do I consume? Fox News? News Max? 
 

Your rationale is dumb. Your kind want us to believe the election was stolen by the biggest fraud ever. Yet this massive fraud is so damn good that not 1 person has talked about it. 2 people knew Bill Clinton got a blow job yet it came out. 5-6 knew about watergate yet it came out. 
 

So my premise is if Dems are so great at that fraud and Pubs can’t even uncover it then Dems are super smart and deserve to run country. 
 

Or maybe just maybe Biden won fair and square and republicans have nothing to bitch about. Not that it will stop you. 😆

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49 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Yes.

Now.  Did Hillary Clinton and the vast majority of the Democratic Party lie about Russian collusion?

No. They had good reasons for those suspicions when they made those allegations, which I think they believed to be true; therefore, not a lie. /costanza

To wit, his campaign knew Russia was helping, and they were happy about it and took full advantage of it. Shit, Trump openly asked for help "Russia, if you're listening."

I believe that members of his campaign leveraged the online messaging of the Internet Research Agency but did not actually aid Russia in "interfering with the election" with the notable exception that Manafort may have done so when he shared internal polling data with the Russians.

As Mueller states in his report, "collusion" is not a legal term. Instead, he investigated what happened as conspiracy, which he could not establish. You should actually read it sometime. It's pretty fascinating and shows all kinds of suspicious behavior among members of his campaign in their dealings with Russia.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

 

 

 

 

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So what are you bitching about? We are on a political board and you are here trying to convince us about something. What is your arguments for or against? 
 

You’re here to troll or you do you have any arguments about policy? As usual you don’t. 

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59 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

No.  It wasn't stolen.

Now.  Can you start actually discussing real issues instead of your stupid fucking talking points that you think make you look SOOPER SMART here on Surly?

You mean like my point by point questioning of your response to twicehorn?

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48 minutes ago, Bravo said:

OK, I have to ask because this sounds like a CNN talking point or Occupy Democrats phrase. The big lie? I think I know what you mean from the discussion but this is definitely a preprogrammed phrase regurgitated as your own. 

I don't know how you can possibly be ignorant of the term "big lie" in connection with Trump's incessant insistence that the election was stolen, without a shred of evidence to support the assertion.

I'm sure you don't patronize "mainstream media" just like I don't patronize Fox, OAN, or Newsmax or any of the various websites, but I am usually aware of whatever talking points they are spewing.

Maybe that's how this works.  It certainly seems easy to trace rightwinger's talking points to rigntwing media, so maybe it's just an information vacuum.

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3 minutes ago, Bravo said:

you got one word right. Patronizing. Thats what I was doing with that post because it is a favorite MSNBC phrase.

I never listen to MSNBC.  Ever.

It's a term broadly used by those who are honest about Trump.

Why the question, then?  Were you, um, trolling?

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7 minutes ago, Bravo said:

you got one word right. Patronizing. Thats what I was doing with that post because it is a favorite MSNBC phrase.


https://www.npr.org/2021/01/16/957291939/can-the-forces-unleashed-by-trumps-big-election-lie-be-undone

Trump whipped up his supporters, repeating a false claim that he has made over and over in the weeks since Nov. 3: "We won this election, and we won it by a landslide," he insisted. "This was not a close election!" 

"They say we lost," the president went on. "We didn't lose."

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1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

I know.  I've seen it here numerous times.

It's why I usually don't post here.

Hornfans was decent discourse.  Shaggy was rude as fuck, but decent discourse.  Surly is the DemocraticUnderground but with Burnt Orange colors on all the posts.

 

Like I've posted here - I can't answer every post towards me since I get WAY too many posts/attacks between each of my posts.  And I try to back up my posts with links...oh well.

 

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!

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"I waited as long as I possibly could to admit that I realize full well that Trump was (and is) lying through his teeth about stolen elections, and the entire GOP has to promote those lies without question or risk banishment--but I support them anyway--because there's really no where to go from there."

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4 minutes ago, Bravo said:

If it was Trump vs you name the democrat I'd vote for him again except maybe Tulsi.

Yeah, man, we know. And if Trump loses in 2024, and GOP-led state governments start using all those fancy new laws to try to decertify all of the results that they don't like, we know you'll be on the side blatantly telling democracy that it can get fucked.

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Just now, Bravo said:

LOL I just said my 2 favorite candidates and one is a black woman. Very racist and nazi. 

CR mantra. Rinse repeat.

You just said you’d vote for Donald trump in 2024. That would make you at least one of the things I listed. That’s not debatable. If you support Donald you are either a racist, a nazi, or a fascist. 

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