welcome back to the cloak room, surly conservatives

[hobbes2702 12799]

On 11/24/2021 at 7:53 PM, Ag with kids said:

 

a) don’t be a coward.

 

Fuck you.  I tried posting on here for just a few weeks and realized this place is basically a burnt orange DemocraticUnderground.  I am glad that the posters here have refrained from neg repping me during this conversation.  It took me a year and a half of posting only on Food & Travel to get positive.

 

ii) the cool thing is, I don’t have to guess. They literally published something that told us exactly what they think. It said, functionally, “whatever Trump wants.” Seriously, that was the stated party platform.

 

[url=https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2016-republican-party-platform]The 2016 Republican Party platform[/url]

 

So, with the same candidate on the ballot, they didn’t change the platform?  What’s your point?

 

3) you want some? Ok - hollering about immigrants as the cause of literally all of our problems.

 

Drugs? The economy? COVID? Blame immigrants!

 

Well, Republicans DON’T do that, but maybe you’re listening to the wrong echo chamber.

 

But wait, they don’t have a problem with LEGAL immigrants, just illegals. Wait, what’s that, they then shifted the goalposts and are working like hell to cut off legal immigration, too?

 

This is incorrect.

 

Nazis marching in Charlottesville are good people? Supporters literally yelling “heil Trump?”

 

WTF?  So if a psycho asshole says BRISKETEXAN IS MY HERO, then you’re guilty for anything he does?

 

An orchestrated campaign to delegitimize all media that doesn’t blindly support the regime, using the exact “lugenpresse” play the Nazis ran? Come on, man. This is going to get even more embarrassing for you, because I have 100 more of these.

IV) funny thing….Godwin himself said “nope, it’s cool, compare them to Nazis, it fits.”

 

HAHAHA. Yeah… the Republicans/right control the media.  Torbush…

 

Some of us have read a book or two. We know the plays and systems that authoritarians run on their rise to power, including the Nazis. And we’ve watched, with horror, as they’re being run again, right here at home. Even including the brown shirts and a violent attack on the legitimate government. Remember that one? That’s what your party has wrought. And do they own it, and try to make good? No. They double down.

 

I read books too.

 

1984

 

A Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovitch

 

The Gulag Archepeligo

 

They call terrorists who literally attacked the heart of my government “tourists.” They fight any investigation or accountability.

 

Nah…they’re an “idea”.

 

Because all of the attacks on federal buildings for 2 years where they destroyed and burned property and all the personnel had to evacuate was not a big deal - because the right wasn’t doing it.

 

If you stand with a party that supports those things, or the the better LEAST…those aren’t dealbreakers for you….then I know all I need to know about you.

 

Don’t know what party you stand with but I don’t stand with that stuff…

 

I am a patriotic american. I love my country. And I hate - and I mean hate - those who attack it, and those who support, enable, and excuse them. You may as well be supporting, enabling, and excusing Al Qaeda.

 

I mean, if you want to know which “conservative values” I still hold dear, and why they mean that I hate the Republicans and those who support them. You fucking asked. I’m telling.

 

Hey…support your version of fascism.  I’ll just disagree with you.

 

This post has multiple lies. 
When you claimed republicans don’t blame illegals for covid spread was that true or was that a lie?

[Ag with kids 581]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Just completely ignoring reality at this point. Literally just an absolute refusal to just admit he was wrong 

The actual Democratic Party tried to remove a POTUS so that the results of the last election were null and void.

Then, a subset of a bunch of dumbasses tried to do the same thing after the next election.

Both groups were stupid.  However, one is still in control of two thirds of the government.

[Ag with kids 581]

5 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I look forward to seeing your thread in purgatory.

I'm a deist, so I don't believe I'll be worrying about purgatory...

[hobbes2702 12799]

1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

The actual Democratic Party tried to remove a POTUS so that the results of the last election were null and void.

Then, a subset of a bunch of dumbasses tried to do the same thing after the next election.

Both groups were stupid.  However, one is still in control of two thirds of the government.

Was the impeachment only democrats or did it have bipartisan support?

[SubliminalHorn 6673]

1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

The actual Democratic Party tried to remove a POTUS so that the results of the last election were null and void.

Then, a subset of a bunch of dumbasses tried to do the same thing after the next election.

Both groups were stupid.  However, one is still in control of two thirds of the government.

It’s like you have no idea what impeachment is and what the Articles of Impeachment said 

[DDD Dad 14250]

Just now, Ag with kids said:

I'm a deist, so I don't believe I'll be worrying about purgatory...

[hobbes2702 12799]

1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

It’s like you have no idea what impeachment is and what the Articles of Impeachment said 

That much is obvious 

[DigglerontheHoof 21052]

That aggy education shining through.

[Sawbonz 27398]

19 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

I pointed out it was the Impeachment that the Democratic Party used.  Why should I respond to any of those demands when I haven't posited them?

I appreciate your strawman attempts, but don't really feel like responding to them.

[mchookem 16194]

ohhh sick burn 🙄

so...aggy. thinks surly is a 'burnt orange democratic underground'. is incapable of self-reflection. doesn't realize when he is making a fool of himself. whining about mean Longhorns. 

hmmm 🤔

oh!  i got it! here you go: you'll fit right in!

you're welcome! 

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by mchookem

[Sawbonz 27398]

8 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

The actual Democratic Party tried to remove a POTUS so that the results of the last election were null and void.

Then, a subset of a bunch of dumbasses tried to do the same thing after the next election.

Both groups were stupid.  However, one is still in control of two thirds of the government.

Several pages back I accused you of not being stupid. My apologies 

[Ag with kids 581]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

This post has multiple lies. 
When you claimed republicans don’t blame illegals for covid spread was that true or was that a lie?

What are the "lies" in that post?  Please don't include differences in opinions/views/etc.

And what would be the lie about illegals spreading covid? 

It's been widely reported that most of the people that have illegally crossed the border have not been tested for covid before being released.  That's several hundred thousand people.

FWIW, if you - a US Citizen - cannot enter the US from another country without providing CBP with a negative Covid test performed in the last 72 hrs, why would that not be the standard for anyone coming across the southern border?  It's been stated by the US government that the purpose of requiring those 72 hr negative covid tests are to stop the spread of covid....  

[hobbes2702 12799]

19 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

What are the "lies" in that post?  Please don't include differences in opinions/views/etc.

And what would be the lie about illegals spreading covid? 

It's been widely reported that most of the people that have illegally crossed the border have not been tested for covid before being released.  That's several hundred thousand people.

FWIW, if you - a US Citizen - cannot enter the US from another country without providing CBP with a negative Covid test performed in the last 72 hrs, why would that not be the standard for anyone coming across the southern border?  It's been stated by the US government that the purpose of requiring those 72 hr negative covid tests are to stop the spread of covid....  

Jesus Christ can you read? You said republicans don’t blame illegals for spreading covid. They do. And it’s been proven they do in this thread. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by hobbes2702

[hobbes2702 12799]

57 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

3) you want some? Ok - hollering about immigrants as the cause of literally all of our problems.

 

Drugs? The economy? COVID? Blame immigrants!

 

Well, Republicans DON’T do that, but maybe you’re listening to the wrong echo chamber.

This is a lie.

57 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

But wait, they don’t have a problem with LEGAL immigrants, just illegals. Wait, what’s that, they then shifted the goalposts and are working like hell to cut off legal immigration, too?

 

This is incorrect.

 

This is a lie.

 

[DDD Dad 14250]

17 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

What are the "lies" in that post?  Please don't include differences in opinions/views/etc.

And what would be the lie about illegals spreading covid? 

It's been widely reported that most of the people that have illegally crossed the border have not been tested for covid before being released.  That's several hundred thousand people.

FWIW, if you - a US Citizen - cannot enter the US from another country without providing CBP with a negative Covid test performed in the last 72 hrs, why would that not be the standard for anyone coming across the southern border?  It's been stated by the US government that the purpose of requiring those 72 hr negative covid tests are to stop the spread of covid....  

Let's see here.  What's the difference?  Oh yes, CBT doesn't have the resources to test every undocumented immigrant crossing the border on their own.  They do test anyone with symptoms, though.

From the NY Times earlier this year:

Quote

John Modlin, the interim Border Patrol chief for the Tucson sector, said it took 90 minutes to three hours to process each migrant, including fingerprinting, gathering personal information and running a background check. Testing for the coronavirus and waiting for results would add another 20 minutes, he said.

“That’s 20 minutes times a thousand people,” Mr. Modlin said. “The Border Patrol does not want to get in the business of testing or inoculating people.”

Dr. Pritesh Gandhi, the chief medical officer at the Department of Homeland Security, said that “operational limitations” have precluded doing virus testing “on the front end,” but that medical teams are working intensely with nonprofit groups and local officials to make sure migrants are screened immediately and tested later, a strategy that he said was starting to show results with fewer people getting sick.

“At the earliest possible moment we can do something about it, we test,” he said in an interview. “And so there are limitations. The question that any public health operator has to ask is, ‘What is the earliest point you can effect change?’”

In a few cities, a contractor hired by Immigration and Customs Enforcement has begun to conduct coronavirus testing of migrants after their release from the Border Patrol and is arranging isolation space in hotels for those who test positive.

* * * *

The Biden administration has continued to expel many who have entered the country without authorization, using a public health emergency law initially invoked by former President Donald J. Trump.

But the government of Mexico has refused to take back families traveling with children under the age of 7 along large stretches of the border with Texas. It has also rejected returns of migrants from outside Central America, who represent a growing number of crossers — many of them from Ecuador and Brazil, countries still hit hard by the coronavirus.

Even so, "There have been no instances of mass spread at U.S. border facilities, and overall numbers of cases are relatively low, according to the Department of Homeland Security. About 5 percent of all single adults and families tested after their release since March showed a positive result, according to the agency, while among the thousands of unaccompanied minors now in custody, the rate has been about 12 percent."

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by DDD Dad

[Sawbonz 27398]

11 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

This is a lie.

This is a lie.

 

Come on man who you gonna believe ag w kids or your lyin’ eyes?

[wildcat09 29224]

1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

The actual Democratic Party tried to remove a POTUS so that the results of the last election were null and void.

Then, a subset of a bunch of dumbasses tried to do the same thing after the next election.

Both groups were stupid.  However, one is still in control of two thirds of the government.

I guess we can add null and void to words you don’t understand.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

My wife and I just opened a bottle of champagne that we actually bought to celebrate Biden’s win, but for whatever reason never opened. Figured an end to this horrid season on a win was as good a reason as any. 
 

Point is, I realized how sad it is that we bought a bottle of champagne to celebrate a political win. Not because of policies (well, not entirely), but more because that win in 2020 represented the American people rejecting (barely) the embrace of hate and immaturity and the general support of acting like a complete piece of shit.  Sure, I generally agree with progressive policies more than conservative ones, but policies have by and large been secondary since 2015. This isn’t what politics are supposed to be about, but the GOP made it so. 
 

[hayden_horn 11360]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

This post has multiple lies. 
When you claimed republicans don’t blame illegals for covid spread was that true or was that a lie?

this is a very important point that i think a lot of people need to understand.

he doesn't think he is lying. he's not doing this on purpose. he's been misled, and fooled, and his brain is stuck in trumpland.

it's part of the reason why it took him so long to answer the goddamn "was the election stolen?" question.

i happen to think that he didn't allow himself to see it. i mean, he saw it, but he knew the answer and skipped right over it because his brain is broken because of trump.

you see the same shit with bravo, but he's a bad actor, and very close to being a troll. ag with kids is not a bad actor. he is a fool, yes, but he genuinely thinks he is right and his mind will not allow him any semblance of critical thought.

it's fucked up, but that's what i think is happening here.

[DDD Dad 14250]

1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

The actual Democratic Party tried to remove a POTUS so that the results of the last election were null and void.

Then, a subset of a bunch of dumbasses tried to do the same thing after the next election.

Both groups were stupid.  However, one is still in control of two thirds of the government.

 

12 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I guess we can add null and void to words you don’t understand.

Also add "control".  

Last time I checked the Democratic Party controlled the Executive Branch and one arm of the Legislative Branch (House of Representatives).  While they technically hold a majority of the Senate with the VP as its president pro tem, they don't control the Senate on beyond budget reconciliation and Supreme Court confirmations (due to the filibuster rule).

[DDD Dad 14250]

3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

this is a very important point that i think a lot of people need to understand.

he doesn't think he is lying. he's not doing this on purpose. he's been misled, and fooled, and his brain is stuck in trumpland.

it's part of the reason why it took him so long to answer the goddamn "was the election stolen?" question.

i happen to think that he didn't allow himself to see it. i mean, he saw it, but he knew the answer and skipped right over it because his brain is broken because of trump.

you see the same shit with bravo, but he's a bad actor, and very close to being a troll. ag with kids is not a bad actor. he is a fool, yes, but he genuinely thinks he is right and his mind will not allow him any semblance of critical thought.

it's fucked up, but that's what i think is happening here.

I'm starting to think otherwise, based solely on today's posts.

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

I remember a very interesting panel discussion from back when I was a government major. Had a wide array of schools of thought represented, but the two that stood out as cult-like and insipidly stupid were the libertarian who wouldn't admit that for-profit medicine leads to the population at large not being able to afford healthcare, and the communist who claimed that unemployment doesn't exist in communist countries.

Ag with kids demonstrates the same degree of grasp of reality.

[F250 28679]

5 hours ago, aggie08 said:

I'll feel shame that the university that I used to love keeps churning out like-minded graduates with zero critical thinking skills.

I believe that is and has always been a core mission of that particular school.

[Captainant 27442]

3 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

Damn.  And I took you for a Democrat.  Mea culpa.

The TX GOP party platform outright says they oppose teaching critical thinking skills lol

[jimmyjazz 45546]

3 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

I do it all the time.

Another lie.

[TwiceHorn 31262]

5 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

Who said rapid slide?

Boiling the frog takes time...

Then, there's no need to vote for a dangerous narcissist like Trump if Biden isn't going to immediately throw us into  . . . (checks notes) . . .  "full blown socialism."

If liberal policies are so bad, they can be undone, or, if Republicans would act in good faith, tempered into actual good policies.  I'll probably never vote Republican again as long as I live, unless they get their shit together and repudiate Trumpism.  But I have no illusions that they'll hold onto power long enough to enact all of their agenda, as if it is some monolith.

But, I think it's vitally important to keep Republicans out of office until Trump and trumpism are extinct, or nearly so.

[TwiceHorn 31262]

58 minutes ago, F250 said:

I believe that is and has always been a core mission of that particular school.

I like piling on to aggy as much as anyone, but I don't honestly believe that the institution purposely, or negligently, teaches them to be such retrograde troglodytes.

It's the lack of diversity among their student body that produces the trogs.

[tchookem 3900]

I like piling on to aggy as much as anyone, but I don't honestly believe that the institution purposely, or negligently, teaches them to be such retrograde troglodytes.
It's the lack of diversity among their student body that produces the trogs.

The thing I notice is how insular Aggie alum are. They start off with the whole "you don't get us because you aren't us" thing, and so they really don't branch out unless they absolutely have to. The ones that do end up being pretty well-rounded and reasonable. The ones that don't seem to have a shell that just gets more and more difficult to penetrate.

[Sawbonz 27398]

I am afraid the old guard ags are in for a rude awakening. The student body is getting more diverse. Ironically they are a “victim” of their own success in terms of academic rigor. Also, the undergrad women aren’t the type you would see at liberty or even Baylor, etc. My daughter has several friends who are at A&M or are seriously considering going, and they are all center or left of center politically. Which the red asses will interpret as effing commies taking over. 

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

Why are people continuing to engage with an idiot. Just put him on ignore

[Ag with kids 581]

4 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

It’s like you have no idea what impeachment is and what the Articles of Impeachment said 

Article 1

Section 2

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section 3

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. 

There is an impeachment PROCESS.

Without the Senate part of the PROCESS, impeachment is just a petulant act by the House.

All of the POTUS impeachments have been been bullshit political attacks.  Johnson, Clinton, Trump 1 & 2.

The good thing is that Section 3 of Article 1 helps to prevent the stupidity of the House...

 

This is not rocket surgery...

[hobbes2702 12799]

1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

Article 1

Section 2

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section 3

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. 

There is an impeachment PROCESS.

Without the Senate part of the PROCESS, impeachment is just a petulant act by the House.

All of the POTUS impeachments have been been bullshit political attacks.  Johnson, Clinton, Trump 1 & 2.

The good thing is that Section 3 of Article 1 helps to prevent the stupidity of the House...

 

This is not rocket surgery...

Apparently you telling the truth is though.

Why was Trump impeached? Was it partisan or bipartisan?

Edited November 26, 2021 by hobbes2702

[Ag with kids 581]

21 minutes ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

Why are people continuing to engage with an idiot. Just put him on ignore

If I put all the far left liberals on ignore here in the CR, It would be me doing nothing more than posting:

 

MARCO

 

POLO

 

And...yet another insult.  Insults the arguments of children.  But, keep using them if it makes you feel better.

[Ag with kids 581]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Apparently you telling the truth is though.

Why was Trump impeached? Was it partisan or bipartisan?

The entire process for BOTH impeachments was partisan.  The Democrats in the House employed the process for political reasons.

And if you're going to try to play silly games, then, yes.  The first impeachment WAS bipartisan.  Two and three Democrats voted with ALL Republicans against the impeachment articles.

That's the bipartisan criteria you're using, right?  If a small number of the opposing party votes for something even though it's passed by overwhelming support by the nominating party?

Now, a question for YOU...Was the impeachment of Clinton partisan or bipartisan?

 

[DDD Dad 14250]

Article 1
Section 2
The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section 3
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. 
There is an impeachment PROCESS.
Without the Senate part of the PROCESS, impeachment is just a petulant act by the House.
All of the POTUS impeachments have been been bullshit political attacks.  Johnson, Clinton, Trump 1 & 2.
The good thing is that Section 3 of Article 1 helps to prevent the stupidity of the House...
 
This is not rocket surgery...

Your poor reading comprehension is on full display.

Maybe you should take a break. Or see if there is some room at the kids’ table.

[DDD Dad 14250]

16 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

If I put all the far left liberals on ignore here in the CR, It would be me doing nothing more than posting:

 

MARCO

 

POLO

 

And...yet another insult.  Insults the arguments of children.  But, keep using them if it makes you feel better.

@hayden_horn Still think he’s just posting his honest but misguided views?

I don’t. 

[Sawbonz 27398]

9 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

The entire process for BOTH impeachments was partisan.  The Democrats in the House employed the process for political reasons.

And if you're going to try to play silly games, then, yes.  The first impeachment WAS bipartisan.  Two and three Democrats voted with ALL Republicans against the impeachment articles.

That's the bipartisan criteria you're using, right?  If a small number of the opposing party votes for something even though it's passed by overwhelming support by the nominating party?

Now, a question for YOU...Was the impeachment of Clinton partisan or bipartisan?

 

So give us a couple of examples of what you think a legitimate reason would be for impeachment

[956 Worldwide 34422]

8 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

The entire process for BOTH impeachments was partisan.  The Democrats in the House employed the process for political reasons.

And if you're going to try to play silly games, then, yes.  The first impeachment WAS bipartisan.  Two and three Democrats voted with ALL Republicans against the impeachment articles.

That's the bipartisan criteria you're using, right?  If a small number of the opposing party votes for something even though it's passed by overwhelming support by the nominating party?

Now, a question for YOU...Was the impeachment of Clinton partisan or bipartisan?

 

Impeachment isn’t overturning an election, GTFO. Dems HATED W and the dude’s hobby was “poorly conceived war” and he made it. The GOP even managed to live through 8 years of a Black president and didn’t file impeachment papers. DJT got impeached for good reason. 

[hobbes2702 12799]

10 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

The entire process for BOTH impeachments was partisan.  The Democrats in the House employed the process for political reasons.

And if you're going to try to play silly games, then, yes.  The first impeachment WAS bipartisan.  Two and three Democrats voted with ALL Republicans against the impeachment articles.

That's the bipartisan criteria you're using, right?  If a small number of the opposing party votes for something even though it's passed by overwhelming support by the nominating party?

Now, a question for YOU...Was the impeachment of Clinton partisan or bipartisan?

 

Yes. Those impeachment’s were all bipartisan. Now tell us why each of them were impeached?

I notice you keep glossing over your lies from earlier. Any chance you’d like to clarify or are you planning to continue lying to us?

[F250 28679]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I like piling on to aggy as much as anyone, but I don't honestly believe that the institution purposely, or negligently, teaches them to be such retrograde troglodytes.

Don't make me summon Randolph Duke into this thread.

 

[Ag with kids 581]

6 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

Actually it isn't.  Article 1 Section 2 provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."  Art. I, Sec. 2.

The Senate has "the sole Power to try all Impeachments."  Art. I, Sec. 3.

It's like how a Grand Jury has the sole power of indictment but a criminal court has the sole power to try all indictments.

So...you're saying that the criminal court is part of the process of indictments?

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

Ahhhhhh! That is pure satisfaction.

[Ag with kids 581]

3 minutes ago, F250 said:

Don't make me summon Randolph Duke into this thread.

 

Oh God...he's so fun.

He's like 4chan. Weaponized autism...

[Ag with kids 581]

5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yes. Those impeachment’s were all bipartisan. Now tell us why each of them were impeached?

I notice you keep glossing over your lies from earlier. Any chance you’d like to clarify or are you planning to continue lying to us?

What. Lies?

State EXPLICITLY the lies.

If you can't do that, then why to YOU keep lying about my posting?

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

2 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

So...you're saying that the criminal court is part of the process of indictments?

"Me flunk English? That unpossible!"

Jesus, dude, that's the exact opposite of what he's saying. And in context...

House impeaches. Senate tries. A trial is not an indictment nor is it an impeachment. Now go clean your room. Your mom is tired of stepping on your Legos.

[hobbes2702 12799]

1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

What. Lies?

State EXPLICITLY the lies.

If you can't do that, then why to YOU keep lying about my posting?

Can you read? I have quoted your specific lie three times in this thread including on this page.

[Ag with kids 581]

7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yes. Those impeachment’s were all bipartisan. Now tell us why each of them were impeached?

I notice you keep glossing over your lies from earlier. Any chance you’d like to clarify or are you planning to continue lying to us?

I fucking told you why each of them were impeached.  JFC.  READ.  I posted everything in English.

[hobbes2702 12799]

Just now, Ag with kids said:

I fucking told you why each of them were impeached.  JFC.  READ.  I posted everything in English.

So you think those impeachment’s were of similar merit? Blowjob vs attempting to subvert the electoral process? Those are equal in your mind?

[DDD Dad 14250]

8 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

So...you're saying that the criminal court is part of the process of indictments?

 

[hobbes2702 12799]

5 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

This post has multiple lies. 
When you claimed republicans don’t blame illegals for covid spread was that true or was that a lie?

 

4 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Jesus Christ can you read? You said republicans don’t blame illegals for spreading covid. They do. And it’s been proven they do in this thread. 

 

4 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

This is a lie.

This is a lie.

 

Let’s try this again.