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  On 1/15/2021 at 3:34 PM, Pescado_Rojo said:

oops indeed. She got "rolled up". A nightclub bartender she knew got popped for small time shit and rolled on her and helped set up the deal. She refused to roll up the guy above her, so they kind of threw the book at her. Possession of a firearm while dealing drugs (there was an antique .22 bolt action in one of the bedroom closets), gram scale and cash in the bedroom, etc. Judge Nowlin actually sentenced her above the federal guidelines (8yrs) and sent her to BOP Lexington. She got it reduced to 4yrs on appeal, and got transferred to BOP Bryan. If you didn't know the Bryan facility was a prison, you'd think it was a middle school campus. 

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That must've been quite a while ago.  

Plus,  she's one smart woman to keep her mouth shut and avoid a conspiracy.  Conspiracy would've given her a min of 15, most likely,  and even if she did provide enough evidence they'd cut that in half.  She'd have had to do 85% of 7 1/2 years. 

Instead she did 4.

Your mom is a strong,  smart woman. 

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  On 1/15/2021 at 2:45 AM, conVINCEd said:

I’ve always had the same thought about RD but never expressed it.  Might have fun, might end up in jail, might end up in Syria.  Possibilities are endless.

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Thanks, but Surly is actually the most interesting I ever am. And I'm pretty predictable and boring here. 

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  On 1/15/2021 at 4:38 PM, SKJ said:

That must've been quite a while ago.  

Plus,  she's one smart woman to keep her mouth shut and avoid a conspiracy.  Conspiracy would've given her a min of 15, most likely,  and even if she did provide enough evidence they'd cut that in half.  She'd have had to do 85% of 7 1/2 years. 

Instead she did 4.

Your mom is a strong,  smart woman. 

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1986

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  On 1/15/2021 at 4:43 PM, Pescado_Rojo said:

1986

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Yeah.  Even in 86 they were still hunting conspiracies,  but not like they did in the 90's.

They changed the guidelines courtesy of Clinton's crime bill and really hammered the possession of a firearm and drugs together,  pushing it to a violent crime in and of itself.  They also moved the amount of drugs down for each level,  and upped the time drastically,  especially for Crack (9:1 if I recall) 

This country really went wild with the war on crime under that shithead

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  On 1/15/2021 at 4:59 PM, TheStoicPaisano said:
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I find that it's important that we learn more about the actions or lack of actions by many of the Capitol police. I don't expect 1 officer to stop 500 people running towards him but I do think Capitol police need some level of autonomy to use extreme force when their lives and the lives of the congressmen or staff look to be at stake.

As for Jenna Ryan, she's such a tough patriot. Taking a private plane to DC, staying at the Westin, probably loading up room service breakfast that AM, and then time to put on patriotic gear to storm the Capitol. Have her 3 compatriots in that private plane been identified? She's posing for many photos so at least 1 of them was with her at the Capitol.

 

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  On 1/15/2021 at 5:13 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I find that it's important that we learn more about the actions or lack of actions by many of the Capitol police. I don't expect 1 officer to stop 500 people running towards him but I do think Capitol police need some level of autonomy to use extreme force when their lives and the lives of the congressmen or staff look to be at stake.

As for Jenna Ryan, she's such a tough patriot. Taking a private plane to DC, staying at the Westin, probably loading up room service breakfast that AM, and then time to put on patriotic gear to storm the Capitol. Have her 3 compatriots in that private plane been identified? She's posing for many photos so at least 1 of them was with her at the Capitol.

 

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the capitol police thing is tricky because they were weighing the price of guaranteeing plenty of return fire.

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  On 1/15/2021 at 5:18 PM, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

the capitol police thing is tricky because they were weighing the price of guaranteeing plenty of return fire.

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I agree that they were fully unprepared for an assault.  I think the end result will be that the Capitol will be hardened, and citizens will have minimal access to the grounds. 9/11 led to people being kept further away from the WH, Jan 6th will do the same for the Capitol. Trump and Osama have more in common now.

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  On 1/15/2021 at 5:37 PM, pantone159 said:

Brandon Burden, the pastor at KingdomLife in Frisco, who is also a member of the Frisco Conservative Coalition and a realtor

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I must be old because I remember when fundamentalists just did things like wear their hair piled up high and host visiting faith healers.

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  On 1/15/2021 at 5:32 PM, TexPx said:
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Brandon Burden, the pastor at KingdomLife in Frisco, who is also a member of the Frisco Conservative Coalition and a realtor, spoke in tongues in front of his followers on Sunday. He claimed "prophetic voices" said Trump would be president for another eight years.

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Another Frisco realtor.  Also sounds like God wants to violate the 22nd amendment and give Trump 2 more terms. I guess technically that could be possible with a new amendment so not entirely out of the question.

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  On 1/15/2021 at 5:40 PM, Post Oak said:

Why are they only facing misdemeanors?  Sorry if this has been answered.

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Sounds like the FBI is a) building cases and b) avoids any potential Trump pardon for 5 more days. 

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  On 1/15/2021 at 5:37 PM, pantone159 said:
Brandon Burden, the pastor at KingdomLife in Frisco, who is also a member of the Frisco Conservative Coalition and a realtor

Yup. Also ran for city council and speaks in tongues. I watched video of the sermon. Wacko. Scary thing is the same shit is happening in “churches” all over the country.


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In 2009, this man went to Obama's inauguration.  Then he became radicalized, and went to the capitol nearly 12 years later and died.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-radicalization-of-kevin-greeson

 

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In 2009, Kevin Greeson traveled from Alabama to witness the inauguration of President Barack Obama, at the time one of his political heroes. Twelve years later, a stone’s throw from where Obama had been sworn in, Greeson died of a heart attack while demonstrating in support of President Donald Trump during the Jan. 6 siege of the Capitol.

Greeson had undergone a stark political transformation in those intervening years. A longtime Democrat who once championed unions and supported progressive politicians, Greeson had become a staunch Trump supporter by the time he died outside the Capitol at the age of 55.

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In the weeks leading up to his death, he gave up Fox News for less mainstream right-wing news sources and wrote a series of posts on the conservative-leaning social media site Parler advocating political violence in response to what he saw as Democrats’ efforts to “steal” the 2020 election from the president.

“Let’s take this fucking Country BACK!! Load your guns and take to the streets!” he wrote on Dec. 17.

While Greeson’s inflammatory Parler posts and false online rumors that he tased himself to death have drawn considerable attention, his political transformation has not.

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“He was a vice president at the union, and he was an Obama supporter,” said Mark McDaniel, the Huntsville attorney representing the Greeson family. “He got interested in Trump because he felt he was more business-minded, and as the economy kept getting better, he kept getting more interested in Trump.”

For much of the late 20th century, north Alabama was home to a number of large factories and industrial facilities that provided blue-collar jobs with decent wages to people like Greeson. But many of those positions were eliminated over the past two decades as manufacturers and plants closed or sold to foreign companies — and as the jobs disappeared, the Democratic Party’s support dwindled.

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  On 1/15/2021 at 5:31 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I agree that they were fully unprepared for an assault.  I think the end result will be that the Capitol will be hardened, and citizens will have minimal access to the grounds. 9/11 led to people being kept further away from the WH, Jan 6th will do the same for the Capitol. Trump and Osama have more in common now.

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Right.  What do Donald Trump and Osama Bin Laden have in common?

  • They both attacked Washington DC
  • They were both taken out by members of the Obama/Biden administration
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Yeah we haven't seen any charges relating to the cop's death yet. Don't think they're gonna let that one slide. We'll see some good shit come down after the 20th. 

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But remember, of the ~300 that the FBI has admitted to identifying...1 has ties to ANTIFA/BLM.  So obviously we know who orchestrated this whole thing.  Was listening to talk radio this morning (I know, I know...I shouldn't be...but I like to see what all sides are saying).  And they couldn't shut up about this one guy identified as an alt.left operator/instigator).  And they just got done talking about the 100 arrests and the other 200 they're officially searching for.  1 out of 300.  That's even worse than Trump's legal record in the election protest.  

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  On 1/15/2021 at 6:05 PM, Lobo said:

But remember, of the ~300 that the FBI has admitted to identifying...1 has ties to ANTIFA/BLM.  So obviously we know who orchestrated this whole thing.  Was listening to talk radio this morning (I know, I know...I shouldn't be...but I like to see what all sides are saying).  And they couldn't shut up about this one guy identified as an alt.left operator/instigator).  And they just got done talking about the 100 arrests and the other 200 they're officially searching for.  1 out of 300.  That's even worse than Trump's legal record in the election protest.  

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I’m actually surprised that more “antifa” wasn’t in that crowd. Antifa is not about supporting Biden like how MAGA and QAnon is for Trump. I’ve always thought hardcore antifa is more about anarchy and fighting the far right. They’re not marching in support of Biden.

if you had asked me what was more likely last week, MAGA breaking into the Capitol or MAGA fighting antifa in DC, I would have picked the latter all day.

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  On 1/15/2021 at 6:05 PM, Lobo said:

But remember, of the ~300 that the FBI has admitted to identifying...1 has ties to ANTIFA/BLM.  So obviously we know who orchestrated this whole thing.  Was listening to talk radio this morning (I know, I know...I shouldn't be...but I like to see what all sides are saying).  And they couldn't shut up about this one guy identified as an alt.left operator/instigator).  And they just got done talking about the 100 arrests and the other 200 they're officially searching for.  1 out of 300.  That's even worse than Trump's legal record in the election protest.  

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And that one says he was just there to document it.  Sounds like some of his video helped with identifying folks.  

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  On 1/15/2021 at 6:14 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I’m actually surprised that more “antifa” wasn’t in that crowd. Antifa is not about supporting Biden like how MAGA and QAnon is for Trump. I’ve always thought hardcore antifa is more about anarchy and fighting the far right. They’re not marching in support of Biden.

if you had asked me what was more likely last week, MAGA breaking into the Capitol or MAGA fighting antifa in DC, I would have picked the latter all day.

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Antifa isn't anarchist. It also isn't Biden supporters specifically. 

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  On 1/15/2021 at 6:05 PM, Lobo said:

But remember, of the ~300 that the FBI has admitted to identifying...1 has ties to ANTIFA/BLM.  So obviously we know who orchestrated this whole thing.  Was listening to talk radio this morning (I know, I know...I shouldn't be...but I like to see what all sides are saying).  And they couldn't shut up about this one guy identified as an alt.left operator/instigator).  And they just got done talking about the 100 arrests and the other 200 they're officially searching for.  1 out of 300.  That's even worse than Trump's legal record in the election protest.  

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I've been making this point to the few remaining Trumpers I can tolerate.   They get real silent and shift in their seats when I point this out.    There's a little bit of the "But Antifa" still in their fight but when all of the video/photo proof is resulting in arrests of people that are tried and true Trumptards, the wind is really let out of their sails.

 

 

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  On 1/15/2021 at 10:25 AM, SKJ said:

 

 

 

Ok. So,  the Vietnamese are basically ranked third in the hierarchy. It's a strange thing Asians do to each other,  but in the eyes of all the Asians, (as i understand it) the Vietnamese are tied with the Koreans for third. Now,  as I also understand it,  skin tone plays a lot in the rankings,  but they essentially all hate each other while everyone hates the Hmong universally.

So,  as below: 

Japanese

Chinese

Vietnamese/ Korean

Thai

Lao/Cambodian 

Hmong

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Not exactly. It's generally Japan or Korea because they export so much of their culture but really it depends on which country you're dealing with.  

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  On 1/15/2021 at 6:21 PM, Macanudo said:

I've been making this point to the few remaining Trumpers I can tolerate.   They get real silent and shift in their seats when I point this out.    There's a little bit of the "But Antifa" still in their fight but when all of the video/photo proof is resulting in arrests of people that are tried and true Trumptards, the wind is really let out of their sails.

 

 

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That is exactly the point of this thread. 



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