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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/capitol-insurrection-guns-stockpile-fired-cop/index.html

This is why we need to make sure the leaders (Trump, his family, and any other government officials that assisted in this) are help responsible. I fear it is only a matter of time until some deluded idiot like this shoots up somewhere and kills a lot of innocent people.

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I am doing my job with this cunt. Seriously, fuck her. She fucked around, and she is sure as shit finding out.

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I don't think the four of those people could think their way into an Olive Garden much less a medium-security federal prison for which they had no pre-authorization to enter.   

We all know they're showboating for Trump's minions (especially MGT), but there are better ways to do it than taking a half-day off of work to linger about in a prison lobby with the 9th most watched cable news channel in toe.    

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We all know they're showboating for Trump's minions (especially MGT), but there are better ways to do it than taking a half-day off of work to linger about in a prison lobby with the 9th most watched cable news channel in toe.    

I love that they are shitting all over cops in such a public manner.

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Once inside, Congressman Gaetz avoided inspecting the areas holding Trump Insurrectionists.  He instead spent the majority of his time making friends with guards, inquiring about possible escape routes/points of vulnerability in the prison, checking which corners were not covered by surveillance cameras, and repeatedly asking the Warden which cell block is best for statutory rape offenders, and offering supervisors crisp $100 bills "for no reason whatsoever, just to let y'all know I appreciate your work."  

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15 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Who else was thinking about a take off from this scene? Would solve some problems....

 

Don't think I saw the movie, but I did have the toy car.

Damn, I need to root around and find it.

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I expect this to blow up in the next couple of days or week. It would be helpful if the folk who are purported to be for LAW AND ORDER would...you know...actually be that way, but I sense a disingenuous reframing not unlike what happened earlier this week via the Four Gs of the Assocalypse and for the governor of Texas, a welcome diversion from the COVID disaster. Click on the thread for the entire bit, complete with defiant defendant, screaming judge, and a whole lotta contempt (not literally) I guess.

 

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20 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I expect this to blow up in the next couple of days or week. It would be helpful if the folk who are purported to be for LAW AND ORDER would...you know...actually be that way, but I sense a disingenuous reframing not unlike what happened earlier this week via the Four Gs of the Assocalypse and for the governor of Texas, a welcome diversion from the COVID disaster. Click on the thread for the entire bit, complete with defiant defendant, screaming judge, and a whole lotta contempt (not literally) I guess.

 

 

his parents need their asses kicked 

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“I believe I would not cause someone to die by not wearing a mask,” he concluded.

That response made Walton explode again, asking Goodwyn, “When did you go to medical school?”

“If you can’t do that I’m going to have no alternative [but] to lock you up and keep you locked up until this case is resolved,” he warned. “They don’t have to put their lives at risk, they don’t have to, and they will not.”

 

Goodwyn replied, “I understand; I’m not going to do that, sir.” He added that Texas law does not require masks indoors and suggested that the pretrial services officers instead stay six feet away from him.

“I don’t care what the law in Texas is,” Walton shot back. “You don’t make the rules. You will be arrested.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/riot-defendant-refuses-mask-angers-judge/2021/07/30/677938ec-f15c-11eb-bf80-e3877d9c5f06_story.html

Please fuck around. 

 

He has a website.

https://danielgoodwyn.com/

 

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I went to his website and this dude obviously is on the spectrum.  No disrespect to anyone who has a loved one on the spectrum. 

 

He claims to be a programmer but his website looks like it was designed by a couple of 2nd graders with a Commodore 64.  

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2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

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“I believe I would not cause someone to die by not wearing a mask,” he concluded.

That response made Walton explode again, asking Goodwyn, “When did you go to medical school?”

“If you can’t do that I’m going to have no alternative [but] to lock you up and keep you locked up until this case is resolved,” he warned. “They don’t have to put their lives at risk, they don’t have to, and they will not.”

 

Goodwyn replied, “I understand; I’m not going to do that, sir.” He added that Texas law does not require masks indoors and suggested that the pretrial services officers instead stay six feet away from him.

“I don’t care what the law in Texas is,” Walton shot back. “You don’t make the rules. You will be arrested.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/riot-defendant-refuses-mask-angers-judge/2021/07/30/677938ec-f15c-11eb-bf80-e3877d9c5f06_story.html

Please fuck around. 

 

He has a website.

https://danielgoodwyn.com/

 

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Jews for Jesus Nerd.

By the way - he is right about Helvetica, the documentary.  Fascinating exploration of design. 

Spoiler

Helvetica is a cinematic exploration of urban spaces in major cities and the type that inhabits them, and a fluid discussion with renowned designers about their work, the creative process, and the choices and aesthetics behind their use of type. Helvetica encompasses the worlds of design, advertising, psychology, and communication, and invites us to take a second look at the thousands of words we see every day.

Interviewees in Helvetica include some of the most illustrious and innovative names in the design world, including Erik Spiekermann, Matthew Carter, Massimo Vignelli, Wim Crouwel, Hermann Zapf, Neville Brody, Stefan Sagmeister, Michael Bierut, David Carson, Paula Scher, Jonathan Hoefler, Tobias Frere-Jones, Experimental Jetset, Michael C. Place, Norm, Alfred Hoffmann, Mike Parker, Bruno Steinert, Otmar Hoefer, Leslie Savan, Rick Poynor, and Lars Müller.

Added bonus -  it premiered at the SXSW Film Festival in 2007. 

 

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2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

He has a website.

2 hours ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

I went to his website and this dude obviously is on the spectrum.  No disrespect to anyone who has a loved one on the spectrum. 

He has a favorite font, of course he's on the spectrum.

Plus, he makes sure you can stalk him in real-life - he has no sense of personal boundaries.  Or he's cognizant of the fact that nobody is going to stalk him.

2 hours ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

He claims to be a programmer but his website looks like it was designed by a couple of 2nd graders with a Commodore 64.  

Honestly, as somebody who does web dev stuff on the side, it's not....horrible. I know so many web developers who make their personal websites look so incredibly shitty by trying to show off how much current shit they can cram into it, rather than letting their portfolios speak for themselves.  This guy knows his graphics limitations and/or is irritated by those sites.  I'd rather see a web developer's site that looks like his, than the 2021 version of a geocities page.

Now his portfolio....oh boy.

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4 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

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“I believe I would not cause someone to die by not wearing a mask,” he concluded.

That response made Walton explode again, asking Goodwyn, “When did you go to medical school?”

“If you can’t do that I’m going to have no alternative [but] to lock you up and keep you locked up until this case is resolved,” he warned. “They don’t have to put their lives at risk, they don’t have to, and they will not.”

 

Goodwyn replied, “I understand; I’m not going to do that, sir.” He added that Texas law does not require masks indoors and suggested that the pretrial services officers instead stay six feet away from him.

“I don’t care what the law in Texas is,” Walton shot back. “You don’t make the rules. You will be arrested.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/riot-defendant-refuses-mask-angers-judge/2021/07/30/677938ec-f15c-11eb-bf80-e3877d9c5f06_story.html

Please fuck around. 

 

He has a website.

https://danielgoodwyn.com/

 

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Goodwyn — charged with felony obstruction of an official proceeding and related misdemeanors — was first arrested in January at his parent’s home in Corinth, Tex. During the arrest, according to prosecutors, FBI agents learned that someone in the home was believed to have covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, but Goodwyn refused to take a coronavirus test or wear a mask. When they put one on him, he chewed it and tried to spit it out; they went through five masks before getting him into quarantine at a nearby jail, prosecutors said.

Goodwyn was released in February but has since violated the conditions of his release multiple times, prosecutors said, including by refusing to wear a mask and failing to show up to meetings or report his location. In his most recent meeting, prosecutors said, he asked whether it was illegal to refuse to put on a mask, adding that it would be illegal “to go out and shoot someone in the face.”

 

white fucking privileges !!!!! this douche is going to have a very hard time in prison and im glad

 

also, the fucking dfw burbs.  motherfucker, what the fuck is in the water out there ?

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On 7/29/2021 at 1:44 PM, HenryJames said:

 

Fuck off, cunts.

You shitfuck assholes never give a shit about prisons or prisoners any other time.

And, it's ironic that NOW you have some generalized oversight authority.

And a former judge of all people should know that you don't just walk up to a jail or prison without arranging far in advance, particularly during a pandemic.

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6 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

All I am saying is that it was fine before Plano showed up. 

Probably worth pointing out that most of these turds do not live in Dallas County, let alone the City of Dallas or any of the suburbs, properly considered.

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fuck off, cunts.

You shitfuck assholes never give a shit about prisons or prisoners any other time.

And, it's ironic that NOW you have some generalized oversight authority.

And a former judge of all people should know that you don't just walk up to a jail or prison without arranging far in advance, particularly during a pandemic.

The 4G would be shitting bricks if they were in a Texas prison with no a/c.

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18 hours ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

I went to his website and this dude obviously is on the spectrum.  No disrespect to anyone who has a loved one on the spectrum. 

 

He claims to be a programmer but his website looks like it was designed by a couple of 2nd graders with a Commodore 64.  

I kinda dig the one-page retro style sheet though. Main disappointment was that there wasn't a 5,000 word screed in remarks hidden among the code.

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50 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I kinda dig the one-page retro style sheet though. Main disappointment was that there wasn't a 5,000 word screed in remarks hidden among the code.

Possible that it's in the <header> tag tho ... because he "knows his way around computers"

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A lawyer hoped history books would help her Capitol riot clients grow. She was called a traitor — and worse.

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Defense attorney Heather Shaner said her first client from Jan. 6 wanted to invoke “the Constitution from 1776.″ When she tried to explain that the document was ratified years later, the man told her he had done his research and she was incorrect.

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In the very beginning, Shaner couldn’t imagine representing anyone involved in the riot. She said she cried all day as she watched the insurrection unfold, stunned by the scene playing out just miles from her home.

When the broadcast networks showed D.C. police officer Daniel Hodges being smashed against a door, she felt she was being crushed, too.

But as the demand for public counsel grew, the Criminal Justice Act panel attorney softened her original terms: She would only defend people who didn’t hurt a police officer.

Shaner is charged with the defense of a handful of people who entered the Capitol on Jan. 6. Though she’s not assigning her clients homework, she is encouraging them to read about history and write what they’ve learned. She wants to help them learn about the past to better understand their place in it.

Critics of her methods don’t think a civics lesson can change an insurrectionist — or they think she’s putting her clients through a reeducation program. She’s been called a traitor, Nazi, communist and worse.

But before the flurry of court cases and charges and debates over repeating the past, Shaner was sitting at her neighbor’s house, transfixed as footage of the riot played over and over.

It felt like 9/11, she said. She couldn’t look away.

The rioters’ defense

The front window of the 74-year-old’s Dupont Circle home and office, where she has lived since it was a group home decades ago, is adorned with a sign that reads “DISARM HATE.” When she moved in, she paid $110 a month to rent the house’s tiniest room.

Large lettering on the roof reads, “NO BAN NO WALL NO WAR,” which she said her husband painted for President Donald Trump to see from his helicopter.

When Shaner took a handful of cases from the insurrection, she did what she thinks every good defense attorney does: found the humanity in her clients.

“What happens is when you’re watching television on January the 6th, they’re monsters,” she said. “Then when you get assigned them, potentially they’re human beings. And then as you get to know them and work with them, you see all the mitigating influences.”


Shaner said many of her clients are victims of misinformation and lack of information, and some of them are learning from the upheaval they participated in.Among Shaner’s clients are: a camouflage-clad family that road-tripped to Washington, a man with American flag-inspired hair and the woman who was the first person sentenced from the riot.

“People came for a whole lot of different reasons,” she said. “None of them based on understanding factually what was happening in the Capitol that day.”

Shaner has told all of her Jan. 6 clients, except the family she was just assigned, to read books and go back to school. If they took a class or read a book, she asked them to send their grades or a report.

She sent everyone a link to the Constitution and free online civics courses and asked them to let her know if they wanted a list of books and movies about history.

The list was fluid. She would suggest some titles to one person, add more as she thought of them and then pass the list along to someone else — if they were interested.

Shaner said she included options such as “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee,” “Just Mercy” and “Schindler’s List” to offer a base of historical knowledge.

She said the reports might not help at sentencing, but they couldn’t hurt.

But many have the question CNN’s John Berman asked Shaner on air: “As my grandmother used to say, ‘Schindler’s List’ and ‘Just Mercy,’ what does that have to do with the price of fish in Russia? What does that matter here?”

An unusual method

Shaner is not a traditional attorney. She does not wear suits to court, favoring tunics and interesting handmade jewelry. She hugs prosecutors and judges.

As one former federal prosecutor who argued against Shaner put it, she’s “the one attorney who’s a grandmother with purple hair who appears in court regularly.”

“Heather is petite in stature and enormous in spirit, and nothing will deter her continuing what she’s doing,” Christopher Macchiaroli said.

She meets with clients at her house and has given them clothes from her closet. She says she babysits their children, if they need it. She sends them money. She lets them sleep on her couch when they don’t have anywhere to go.

She’s one-of-a-kind, friends and colleagues say, and a fixture of the D.C. courts.

“Most of the prosecutors and the judges know that when her name is on the calendar representing somebody, that person is well represented,” said Thomas Crossley, an investigator who’s known Shaner for decades. “And that she is going to do everything possible to defend her client.”

Shaner’s reading-and-watching list method — which The Indianapolis Star reported on in late June — seemed unconventional to the public, but not to her. She’s been giving her clients books and other materials for decades.


Books hold power, Shaner said. It’s like the message of the Magic Tree House series, which her granddaughter enjoyed: Books can transport you away from your circumstances. She’d seen it firsthand.She’s sent them dictionaries, novels, poetry and more. She’s asked judges to grant them permission to have reading glasses. Education, to her, is paramount.

During her first job out of college, where she said she watched over abused and neglected children, she would stay late and sit in the facility’s bathroom to read to two particularly bright boys. They learned quickly, she said.

In her next job working with incarcerated youth in Pennsylvania, Shaner recalled meeting a whip-smart boy nicknamed Tweety Bird. With her help, he learned to read, and eventually Shaner said she contacted his father and convinced him to “take an interest.”

“It was kindness and love, but it was also books,” she said.

Kim, a former client who asked to be identified only by her first name to protect her privacy, was in a bad place and struggling with drug abuse when she met Shaner. She said the lawyer helped her find treatment, gave her literature to learn about addiction and was always there to talk to her — not just as a client, but as a person.

Shaner believes in making the world a better place with knowledge, Kim said. She wasn’t surprised to hear about the book reports.

‘You are a traitor’

Barbara McQuade, a professor of law at the University of Michigan and former U.S. attorney, called Shaner’s book report idea “novel.” She said it makes sense when you think about what judges consider during sentencing: Will this person commit a crime again? Have they been rehabilitated?

“This isn’t a gimmick,” Macchiaroli said. “This isn’t like putting glasses on a defendant to make him look more studious.”

An attorney representing another Jan. 6 defendant denigrated Shaner’s education-focused method when arguing his client couldn’t get a fair trial in D.C. The assumption that one of her clients is a “bigot” for supporting Trump “is beyond outrageous, yet typifies the attitude of many District residents,” he wrote. Shaner had not called her client a bigot.

Lawyers, pundits and critics from both sides of the aisle have attacked Shaner’s educational approach, though she said she’s heard from many more on the right than the left. On the right, she’s been accused of forcing her client into a reeducation program. On the left, she’s been lambasted for arguing a “traitor” has grown.

Shaner has represented people involved with convicted Mexican drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán and multiple murderers and defendants in other high-profile cases. She gave them books, too, she said. But she had never received hateful emails or phone calls until now.

In the worst of the messages, Shaner either gets called a Nazi, communist or something profane, she said. Either she’s force-feeding her clients propaganda or defending the indefensible.


“I don’t care if she was there for 10 seconds or 10 years,” they say. “Read “Schindler’s List” and then you’re a good person? Bulls---. She was a traitor, and you’re a traitor for representing her. You are disgusting. You should be suspended. I don’t know why you’re even allowed to practice law. You shouldn’t be. No one should be representing traitors to this country. You are disgusting.”In one message left on her home phone, the speaker’s voice crackles a little.

Shaner’s niece, Rachel Pinkerton, said she’s worried the publicity around the Capitol riot cases could put her aunt in danger. She’s been worried about her before, but said the hateful messages are new and frightening.

But Shaner said it’s just part of the job. Her husband, Phil Palmer, said they refuse to live in fear.

Looking back, moving forward

Shaner wants to make a difference for her clients and country. If there’s healing and learning to be done, she hopes to be a part of it.

“She does it because that’s who she is, through and through,” Palmer said. “Every fiber in her body is made out of justice.”

Hate mail aside, Shaner has also received several supportive messages. A librarian contacted her to ask about finding a way to get more books into the jails. A retired prosecutor in Alaska called to praise her. Lawyers and friends from over the years have reached out, too.

A family charged in relation to the riot got in touch after reading about Shaner and asked her to represent them, she said. They thought she would treat them fairly.

Though there’s no way to measure the effectiveness of Shaner’s push to educate her clients, she’s confident some of them have grown.

Anna Lloyd, an Indiana grandmother who was the first person sentenced on Capitol riot charges, initially called Jan. 6 the “best day of my life.” She had been inside the Capitol for about 10 minutes, prosecutors said, and did not contribute to any violence or theft.

Lloyd later wrote about books and movies opening her eyes to injustice and apologized for her involvement. She continues to support Trump, who has repeatedly downplayed the riot.

Shaner said Lloyd has taken it upon herself to continue her education. She watches documentaries on the History Channel, Shaner said, and got a library card.

Another woman Shaner is representing from Jan. 6 changed her voter registration from Republican to Democrat, the lawyer said, and is going back to school to study political science. She was horrified watching the House select committee’s first hearings investigating the attack, Shaner said.

Shaner believes the women’s regret is sincere. She believes they’ve learned from their mistakes. And she believes reading books, while not fully responsible for that change, surely didn’t hurt.

“They change themselves, and that’s a voluntary process,” Shaner said. “Even if I wanted to, I couldn’t force anybody. People change, but you can only give them the opportunity to change and the tools. You can’t obligate anybody to change their ideas.”

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Possible that it's in the <header> tag tho ... because he "knows his way around computers"

Nope, he kept it pretty clean.  I'm with RDCanecutter, it's clean and I kinda dig/respect it.

But damn he made sure you knew everything about his life, down to his tinder profile and what music he listens to and exactly where he lives.

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1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

“the Constitution from 1776.″

there is a sub class of nutters out there that think that either a) substituting the constitution for the articles of confederation was where america went wrong; or b) the constitution was never properly ratified so the articles of confederation is the rightful highest law of the land. 

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