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2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Anyone going to bother ever taking Raphael and Hawley to task for their bullshit or do they get a free pass because, reasons? Pisses me off to no end those two cunts keep talking shit and Dems don’t say a fucking thing except AOC’s tweety rant to Vulverine .

Not saying the impeachment trial is the place to do it but figured most people were checking this thread so posted it here.

Democrats must never let Cruz forget his own words:

Donald Trump now has a consistent pattern of inciting violence," Cruz said. 

 Texas Senator called the threats and intimidation against Steve House, the Colorado GOP chairman, in the wake of Cruz's 34 delegate sweep in Colorado as perhaps "the most troubling" incident involving the Trump campaign thus far.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cruz-trump-now-has-a-consistent-pattern-of-inciting-violence/

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immamac
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Fuck everyone in the senate. Trash american government for trash americans.  If you are a longhorn and support this, you need to find another site. I'm done fucking around with this absolute garb

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he needs to be punished, not rewarded 

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I’m 44 years old and have never been a member of a political party nor do I have a desire. But listening to this, God damnit, If I have to pick a fucking side and wear a badge upon my sleeve, I choose

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1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

This is a serious question - how hard would it be to boot Cruz?  I mean for you bastards to vote that MF out.  Is it impossible?  I'm guessing if the last election was 60/40 there has to be a real chance to put him out on his ass.  Fucker makes my blood boil.  

Well, Beto had a gigantic groundswell of support and lost nearly 51/48, so yeah, it's impossible.  Texas sucks.

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What the fuck is Texas? Whatever gave our state the good side of its reputation is long gone. We're a red state full of white Reagan/Trump worshippers who grew up soft in the suburbs or frighteningly ignorant in East Texas.

My dad was a Texan of the old school. So was my mother. A little of that echoes in me. I didn't buy the Reagan in a cowboy hat bullshit, I worked in oilfields for awhile, but I'm one of those soft suburban boys.

I shouldn't be so absolute. There is still some Texas style humor and honesty out there, but it's drying up. At least the Mexicans still harken back to what this state was. Far better we go hispanic than homogenized American.

The republic will likely not convict a would-be tyrant. Fuck Texas and fuck an America that doesn't even bother to know what it's supposed to be. How sad if the House Impeachment Managers poured all of that intellect and articulation into a giant toilet clogged up with Republican turds elected and wildly popular with a vast plurality. 

It shouldn't even be close.

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The Senate isn't catastrophically flawed.  The root problem is money.  The money problem manifests in a political party system where politicians are increasingly not able to vote their own conscience.  They are cogs to the party machine if they wish to continue their career.

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The Senate isn't catastrophically flawed.  The root problem is money.  The money problem manifests in a political party system where politicians are increasingly not able to vote their own conscience.  They are cogs to the party machine if they wish to continue their career.

The Senate is flawed, by design.  It was set up as an aristocratic veto against the House (actual representative democracy). The framers of the constitution were scared of giving the people too much power over the wealthy landowners (them) so they divided the first branch of government to protect the rich (them).  So in a way you are correct, the root problem is money, going back to the beginning.  
 

ETA: IMO the Senate is the wrong body to adjudicate a House impeachment for the corrupting reasons you mentioned.  If anything, a House impeachment of the President should be decided by the Supreme Court. 

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The Senate is flawed, by design.  It was set up as an aristocratic veto against the House (actual representative democracy). The framers of the constitution were scared of giving the people too much power over the wealthy landowners (them) so they divided the first branch of government to protect the rich (them).  So in a way you are correct, the root problem is money, going back to the beginning.  
 

ETA: IMO the Senate is the wrong body to adjudicate a House impeachment for the corrupting reasons you mentioned.  If anything, a House impeachment of the President should be decided by the Supreme Court. 

The powers of the House and Senate should be flipped entirely.  Given the Senate makeup and mission, it should also be appointed by state governments rather than elected. It is the American equivalent of the house of lords. 

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3 hours ago, bernorange said:

The Senate isn't catastrophically flawed.  The root problem is money.  The money problem manifests in a political party system where politicians are increasingly not able to vote their own conscience.  They are cogs to the party machine if they wish to continue their career.

Money in politics is an enormous problem but it has little to do with why Republican officials have all bowed down to Trump.

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The Senate is flawed, by design.  It was set up as an aristocratic veto against the House (actual representative democracy). The framers of the constitution were scared of giving the people too much power over the wealthy landowners (them) so they divided the first branch of government to protect the rich (them).  So in a way you are correct, the root problem is money, going back to the beginning.  
 

ETA: IMO the Senate is the wrong body to adjudicate a House impeachment for the corrupting reasons you mentioned.  If anything, a House impeachment of the President should be decided by the Supreme Court. 

The Supreme Court is an even more conservative and democratically-unaccountable institution than the Senate is.

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4 hours ago, bernorange said:

The Senate isn't catastrophically flawed.  The root problem is money.  The money problem manifests in a political party system where politicians are increasingly not able to vote their own conscience.  They are cogs to the party machine if they wish to continue their career.

The root problem of democracy is politics itself.  It's too easy to get people who vote to value the wrong shit.

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What sort of idiot thought Inhofe might even slightly consider doing the right thing? He's doing what they all do. Slobbing trumps knob and not even acknowledging what trump did, just playing the "he's not president anymore so I can't constitutionally convict." He knows that's a lie, but they all know that they're lying and don't give a single fuck.

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spacer.pngIt's the dems. They're mean ol' haters and liars.  Donald is the reasonable, honest one who respects the law!

Showing Warren saying fight actually shows the difference between how she uses it and how the arch-villain Trump does.

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