Trump Impeachment 2: Insurrection Boogaloo

[burntorangebongos 10681]

I don't understand what he is doing? Is he doing this just to knee cap Trump?? I am too naïve to understand his evil ways.

[David Dennison 18603]

1 minute ago, hayden_horn said:

oh, so now mitch is an originalist. not when merrick garland was put forth as a justice. now, he finds religion.

fuck you, mitch. 

He's really good at what he does.

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

7 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

i'm not sure how he can reconcile his not guilty vote with this speech.

You might be someone who is handicapped with integrity and scruples and only one side of your face from which to speak.

[hayden_horn 11360]

Just now, David Dennison said:

He's really good at what he does.

[Bottlecap 1519]

oh fuck, moscow mitch just basically gave the green light to try him in criminal and civil court. i say they fuck around and find out.

[David Dennison 18603]

2 minutes ago, Snacks said:

No he isn't. He specifically said it wasn't likely to legally be incitement.

Who says it has to be limited to incitement? There's a whole bunch of stuff that can be laid at Trump's feet by Merrick Garland.

[jimmyjazz 45513]

It makes no sense for a trial to be held in which conviction is not possible.

Mitch is arguing an indefensible position.  The inability to remove from office does not mean that other outcomes are not possible.  People need to take a fucking course in logic and use their fucking heads.

[henrygandorf 29174]

all these gop dicks keep bringing up the criminal justice system to handle the crimes of private citizens.

call their fucking bluff, merrick.

[Mdhorn 5908]

24 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

The Republicans who were free to vote their conscience without fear of a primary attack voted to convict. The rest are cowards to whom re-election means more than our country’s future. 

Than is a sad indictment of the state of American politics. The GOP has no leaders in Congress, only shameless exploiters.

They were guilty of benefitting from spreading the Trump propaganda as well as improprieties while in office.  They also have pocketed taxpayer funds and campaign contributions because nothing matters anymore.  Just say you back the blue and are the party of law and order and you can commit crimes against the American people.

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

It makes no sense for a trial to be held in which conviction is not possible.

Mitch is arguing an indefensible position.  The inability to remove from office does not mean that other outcomes are not possible.  People need to take a fucking course in logic and use their fucking heads.

no shit, Raskin and the other house managers made it crystal clear on day 1 that there was no “January exception” to impeachment. 

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

6 minutes ago, Snacks said:

No he isn't. He specifically said it wasn't likely to legally be incitement.

He’s full of shit. 

[Slacks 6791]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It makes no sense for a trial to be held in which conviction is not possible.

Mitch is arguing an indefensible position.  The inability to remove from office does not mean that other outcomes are not possible.  People need to take a fucking course in logic and use their fucking heads.

There are no other outcomes, per the Constitution.  That is his point.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2655]

They already litigated the issue of impeaching while out of office and lost. It's bullshit.

They should also be estopped from arguing it since they were the ones who delayed trial. Disingenuous thy name is Mitch

Edited February 13, 2021 by ChuckNorrisActionJeans

[David Dennison 18603]

1 minute ago, Snacks said:

There are no other outcomes, per the Constitution.  That is his point.

Where in the Constitution does it say that a former president cannot be impeached and convicted? 

[C-Man 26991]

14 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

One day Gritty will come for all 43 traitors and I will enjoy those days 

 

[Slacks 6791]

Just now, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

They already litigated the issue of impeaching while out of office and lost. It's bullshit

You can sue anybody for anything at any time...  Doesn't mean the suit is going to stick.  

The process is the process.  

 

What he DOESN'T say... is that he could have had the shit happen when the President was in office. He chose not to. That's the rub.

[Mdhorn 5908]

17 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I’d rather Mitch have said nothing than whatever the fuck he is doing right now.

I'm good with it--shows how damn hypocritical they are.  There's no defending how he voted with what he's publicly stating.  

[burntorangebongos 10681]

Fuck you Mitch, for saying it wasn't constitutional because he was out of office. Yes it was! 

Gaslighting fuckhead.

[Chuckie Finster 22583]

Blueprint for future Presidents:

*commit impeachable offense
*get impeached
*resign the day before Senate trial begins
*impossible to get convicted, according to these constitutional scholars

[Gatorubet 30064]

Instigating supporters to attack and kill with no consequences has set a precedent. Republican politicians don’t need to whine about how wrong that is in future if Karma does it’s Karma thing and the shoe is on the other foot. They stamped the Seal of Approval on that type of behavior. THAT is why Mitch is going off. He may need a veneer of decentness card to play in future when shit goes bad.

I hope everyone regains their senses. But I don’t see it happening. The way I feel right now, if someone bombs a GOP caucus and you are empaneling a jury for the criminal trial that includes me, I’m not sure I’d vote to convict, given today’s vote. I mean, I bet the evidence and video and fingerprints and “TO DO BEFORE BOMBING GOP” list was made up - right???

Maybe it’s the Bourbon talking, but all Trump supporters can die in a fire. I wouldn’t open the burning barn doors if I was walking the dog and happened by the fucking fire. I WOULD furrow my brow in genuine disapproval as I walked by, however. And turn up the earbud volume to block the screaming.

[hayden_horn 11360]

1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Blueprint for future Presidents:

*commit impeachable offense
*get impeached
*resign the day before Senate trial begins
*impossible to get convicted, according to these constitutional scholars

yeah, he's having it both ways. basically outlining why the january exception for high crimes and misdemeanors are okay for an outgoing president. 

jesus, mitch, think about that goddamn precedent.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

The Senate is a flawed institution of democracy.

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

10 minutes ago, Bottlecap said:

oh fuck, moscow mitch just basically gave the green light to try him in criminal and civil court. i say they fuck around and find out.

An impeachment conviction wouldn’t have prevented that. 

[henrygandorf 29174]

4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Blueprint for future Presidents:

*commit impeachable offense
*get impeached
*resign the day before Senate trial begins
*impossible to get convicted, according to these constitutional scholars

*run again 

[David Dennison 18603]

4 minutes ago, Snacks said:

There are no other outcomes, per the Constitution.  That is his point.

There is another outcome, per the Constitution, specifically disqualification from public office.

[henrygandorf 29174]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The Senate is a flawed institution of democracy.

the minority has been in charge for a while.  this is not new.

right now we're told the nation wants unity.  unity = the majority appeasing the minority.

[Slacks 6791]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Where in the Constitution does it say that a former president cannot be impeached and convicted? 

Article II, Section 4 reads:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

 

Which one of those is Donald Trump today?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45513]

11 minutes ago, Snacks said:

There are no other outcomes, per the Constitution.  That is his point.

Are you mental?  Conviction with no penalty, or perhaps a ban on further office are absolutely alternatives.   Mitch is wrong.

[burntorangebongos 10681]

And fuckhead is happy because he can keep grifting the rubes by pretending to run again.  He can also get pubs to kiss his ass by playing kingmaker.  

If Mitch said all this shit to try and knock him down, it isn't enough. He should have convicted him to make that happen. Coward.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2655]

If ANY federal indictments come down on Trump, the "criminal justice system is the place for consequences to a former Pres" Repubs will howl at the top of their lungs about it being a political witch hunt and Biden should be impeached etc. etc. Watch.

[David Dennison 18603]

1 minute ago, Snacks said:

Article II, Section 4 reads:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

 

Which one of those is Donald Trump today?

Where does it say he has to be sitting to be convicted? It just says he shall be removed if he is.

[Tom 2959]

These GOP traitors need to be punished for their dereliction of duty in holding Trump accoutable.  Ending the filibuster should be the first priority, followed by adding two new states in PR and DC.  Start ramming shit down their throats.

[Mdhorn 5908]

7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The Senate is a flawed institution of democracy.

Shows how a minority once again got their way over the majority--not really a democracy.

[David Dennison 18603]

Just now, Tom said:

These GOP traitors need to be punished for their dereliction of duty in holding Trump accoutable.  Ending the filibuster should be the first priority, followed by adding two new states in PR and DC.  Start ramming shit down their throats.

Sadly, the whip count on ending the filibuster is anywhere from three to five votes short.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2655]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Where does it say he has to be sitting to be convicted? It just says he shall be removed if he is.

Snacks the legal scholar reads law real good.

[hayden_horn 11360]

4 minutes ago, Snacks said:

Article II, Section 4 reads:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

 

Which one of those is Donald Trump today?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

disappointing take, dude. 

so i guess we can just let office holders do whatever the fuck they want as the clock runs out? 

fuck outta here with that take.

[Mdhorn 5908]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

There is another outcome, per the Constitution, specifically disqualification from public office.

and also, wouldn't this strip him of his presidential protections such as having guards and intelligence access?

[Hagbard Celine 10734]

22 minutes ago, Snacks said:

I do believe Mitch's statements about the Constitution to be correct. Trump cannot be convicted on this impeachment, imo.

can i have my choice of camp location if i declare early?

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2655]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Sadly, the whip count on ending the filibuster is anywhere from three to five votes short.

Pressure should be applied. Start doing the shit on the Dem side that Mitch does to keep his minions in line. FFS if they want to hold on in the mid-terms the DINOs need to get a clue.

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

7 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

Fuck you Mitch, for saying it wasn't constitutional because he was out of office. Yes it was! 

Gaslighting fuckhead.

The Constitution says whatever Mitch says it does based on his personal political expediency. If it will benefit him politically tomorrow to claim it says the opposite of what he claims it says today then he won’t hesitate to contradict himself. Without shame and he’ll flash that knowing, shit-eating grin when he does it. 

[Hagbard Celine 10734]

19 minutes ago, Snacks said:

There are no other outcomes, per the Constitution.  That is his point.

sieg heil

[Tom 2959]

edit: never mind.

Edited February 13, 2021 by Tom

[jimmyjazz 45513]

9 minutes ago, Snacks said:

Article II, Section 4 reads:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

 

Which one of those is Donald Trump today?

Seriously, you are brain damaged.  Nowhere in that language is the assertion that "should the impeached party not hold office he or she cannot be convicted".

For fuck's sake, the Senate has set precedent by BARRING convicted persons from holding future office.  That is absolutely on the table as a potential penalty.  Or (hold onto your meager little hat) there could be NO penalty.

Fuck off with your bullshit.

[DDD Dad 14167]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Seriously, you are brain damaged.  Nowhere in that language is the assertion that "should the impeached party not hold office he or she cannot be convicted".

For fuck's sake, the Senate has set precedent by BARRING convicted persons from holding future office.  That is absolutely on the table as a potential penalty.  Or (hold onto your meager little hat) there could be NO penalty.

Fuck off with your bullshit.

He's trolling you.

[Bama Chick 28596]

[jimmyjazz 45513]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

He's trolling you.

I am 100% not even close to interested in trying to assess trolls from serious posters.  Fuck him.

[Gatorubet 30064]

There are no other outcomes, per the Constitution.  That is his point.

Why are Trump defenders so fucking stupid and misinformed? Is it a requirement of being a Trump supporter?

[Hagbard Celine 10734]

10 minutes ago, Tom said:

These GOP traitors need to be punished for their dereliction of duty in holding Trump accoutable.  Ending the filibuster should be the first priority, followed by adding two new states in PR and DC.  Start ramming shit down their throats.

they're not going to do it.  they're pussies.  they could have taken the 2 weeks recess, shoved the $1.9T package down their throats, fuck your feelings, declared all appointments acting, fuck your feelings, got down to business, and shove their face in shit for the first time in 40 years.

but they're pussies.

sieg heil.  the GQP will relabel on monday (President's Day) as the National Patriot Worker's Party.

this was the end of the republic.

[Wanker Bob 379]

24 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Instigating supporters to attack and kill with no consequences has set a precedent. Republican politicians don’t need to whine about how wrong that is in future if Karma does it’s Karma thing and the shoe is on the other foot. They stamped the Seal of Approval on that type of behavior. THAT is why Mitch is going off. He may need a veneer of decentness card to play in future when shit goes bad.

I hope everyone regains their senses. But I don’t see it happening. The way I feel right now, if someone bombs a GOP caucus and you are empaneling a jury for the criminal trial that includes me, I’m not sure I’d vote to convict, given today’s vote. I mean, I bet the evidence and video and fingerprints and “TO DO BEFORE BOMBING GOP” list was made up - right???

Maybe it’s the Bourbon talking, but all Trump supporters can die in a fire. I wouldn’t open the burning barn doors if I was walking the dog and happened by the fucking fire. I WOULD furrow my brow in genuine disapproval as I walked by, however. And turn up the earbud volume to block the screaming.

[staboner 4955]

3 hours ago, freyguy said:

6 people died for nothing.  Good job.  I almost wish a few members of Congress had been left behind to get captured and whatever else.  Maybe then something would have come out of this.

...who am I kidding....nope.

the 6 people dying is nothing compared to the destruction of government institutions. not even close. shitty to say but not really, cuz its true.