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5 minutes ago, Hmmm said:

I'm with ya on Jake.  Don't expect him to be an AA next year but do think he has more untapped potential than Moore.  Jake is the best route runner on the team, perhaps even faster than Moore (his words), and can actually create separation.

Is he though?

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IMO, yes, and it's not even close.  Who would you put up against him?

I'm hardly a WR evaluation expert, but it seems to me the best route runner, fastest WR on the team, and "guy who can create separation" wouldn't pull complete-game disappearing acts where he never seemed to be very open at any point.

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What the fuck am I reading about Jake Smith being someone who can get separation and run great routes? Is this real life? Holy shit. 

It's irrelevant anyway. If Jake Smith doesn't drop 15 pounds, get his quickness back, and figure out how to actually consistently catch the ball, he'll be dropped through a trap door this spring.

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I'm hardly a WR evaluation expert, but it seems to me the best route runner, fastest WR on the team, and "guy who can create separation" wouldn't pull complete-game disappearing acts where he never seemed to be very open at any point.

I get where you're coming from.  I expected a lot more from him.  I'm no expert either, but I've seen him run routes that no-one else has (dig route).  Moore and perhaps Washington are as good or better route runners but the number/diversity of routes I've seen from them was very limited compared to Jake's.  

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What the fuck am I reading about Jake Smith being someone who can get separation and run great routes? Is this real life? Holy shit. 

It's irrelevant anyway. If Jake Smith doesn't drop 15 pounds, get his quickness back, and figure out how to actually consistently catch the ball, he'll be dropped through a trap door this spring.

Who would you say on this team consistently created separation.  I'll hang up and listen.

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What the fuck am I reading about Jake Smith being someone who can get separation and run great routes? Is this real life? Holy shit. 

It's irrelevant anyway. If Jake Smith doesn't drop 15 pounds, get his quickness back, and figure out how to actually consistently catch the ball, he'll be dropped through a trap door this spring.

Yeah Smith seems like the perfect example of the Herman/Yancy "overbulking" of players that's been alluded to. I fully expect him to slim back down and be a better player because of it.

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4 hours ago, Machinator said:

Returning Production For 2021

TEAM
OVERALL OFFENSE (RANK) DEFENSE (RANK)
1. Louisiana 96% 93% (6) 98% (1)
2. UCLA 91% 95% (3) 88% (8)
3. Miami 91% 95% (1) 86% (12)
4. Iowa St. 88% 94% (5) 81% (25)
5. Wash. St. 87% 88% (9) 86% (13)
6. Liberty 87% 95% (2) 79% (33)
7. Oregon St. 87% 94% (4) 79% (34)
8. Utah 86% 81% (34) 91% (5)
9. Oregon 86% 87% (11) 84% (19)
10. Maryland 85% 86% (14) 85% (17)
11. Arizona St. 84% 86% (15) 82% (21)
12. Colorado 83% 86% (16) 81% (27)
13. Ga. Tech 83% 84% (21) 82% (23)
14. Wisconsin 83% 84% (24) 82% (22)
15. Washington 82% 91% (7) 73% (61)
16. Troy 82% 70% (68) 94% (2)
17. CMU 81% 84% (23) 79% (35)
18. Wake Forest 81% 88% (8) 74% (54)
19. W. Virginia 81% 82% (32) 81% (29)
20. California 81% 75% (52) 87% (11)
21. Coastal Caro. 81% 70% (66) 91% (4)
22. Ole Miss 81% 78% (44) 83% (20)
23. Georgia St. 80% 85% (18) 76% (49)
24. Indiana 80% 80% (39) 81% (26)
25. Minnesota 80% 75% (53) 84% (18)
26. Syracuse 80% 83% (26) 76% (45)
27. UTSA 79% 87% (12) 71% (63)
28. UMass 79% 88% (10) 71% (65)
29. Wyoming 79% 79% (40) 79% (31)
30. LSU 79% 82% (30) 76% (44)
31. Akron 79% 85% (19) 73% (58)
32. N. Carolina 79% 77% (47) 81% (28)
33. TCU 79% 87% (13) 70% (66)
34. Miss. St. 79% 72% (62) 85% (16)
35. Texas St. 78% 82% (29) 74% (56)
36. Ball St. 78% 80% (36) 76% (47)
37. Penn St. 78% 74% (58) 82% (24)
38. Purdue 78% 85% (17) 70% (68)
39. Arkansas 78% 70% (67) 85% (15)
40. App. St. 78% 67% (76) 88% (7)
41. Cincinnati 77% 82% (31) 73% (60)
42. Army 77% 79% (42) 76% (46)
43. Oklahoma 76% 78% (43) 75% (51)
44. NC St. 76% 63% (83) 90% (6)
45. Fresno St. 76% 74% (56) 78% (39)
46. Arizona 76% 75% (54) 77% (40)
47. Boston Coll. 75% 84% (22) 66% (79)
48. ECU 75% 71% (65) 78% (37)
49. Michigan 73% 77% (46) 70% (69)
50. Pittsburgh 73% 82% (28) 64% (86)
51. S. Alabama 73% 79% (41) 67% (77)
52. Nevada 73% 82% (33) 64% (84)
53. Florida St. 73% 84% (25) 62% (90)
54. Auburn 73% 73% (60) 72% (62)
55. Oklahoma St. 72% 65% (79) 80% (30)
56. Missouri 72% 82% (27) 62% (89)
57. Iowa 72% 69% (70) 76% (48)
58. Kansas St. 72% 81% (35) 64% (87)
59. Baylor 72% 59% (90) 85% (14)
60. Nebraska 72% 56% (96) 88% (9)
61. EMU 71% 78% (45) 64% (85)
62. Illinois 70% 80% (38) 61% (94)
63. NIU 70% 53% (105) 87% (10)
64. Michigan St. 69% 80% (37) 59% (99)
65. Clemson 69% 46% (118) 92% (3)
66. Rice 69% 59% (89) 79% (32)
67. USC 69% 69% (69) 69% (73)
68. BGSU 69% 59% (88) 78% (38)
69. Texas Tech 69% 63% (82) 74% (53)
70. Houston 68% 71% (64) 65% (80)
71. Memphis 68% 63% (81) 73% (59)
72. Va. Tech 68% 69% (71) 67% (76)
73. N. Texas 68% 67% (72) 68% (74)
74. UCF 68% 74% (59) 62% (91)
75. So. Miss 67% 57% (94) 77% (42)
76. San Jose St. 67% 59% (92) 74% (52)
77. Virginia 66% 72% (63) 61% (95)
78. Vanderbilt 66% 75% (50) 57% (102)
79. Hawaii 66% 55% (100) 77% (43)
80. Navy 65% 56% (98) 74% (55)
81. Utah St. 64% 67% (75) 61% (93)
82. Rutgers 64% 67% (74) 61% (96)
83. FAU 64% 76% (48) 51% (111)
84. Kansas 64% 61% (85) 66% (78)
85. Tulane 64% 74% (57) 53% (110)
86. UTEP 63% 74% (55) 51% (112)
87. MTSU 63% 56% (97) 70% (70)
88. Colorado St. 62% 60% (86) 64% (83)
89. UNLV 62% 46% (121) 79% (36)
90. Ohio 62% 55% (101) 70% (71)
91. WKU 62% 67% (73) 56% (104)
92. Georgia 62% 84% (20) 39% (126)
93. Louisville 61% 73% (61) 50% (114)
94. Arkansas St. 61% 48% (114) 75% (50)
95. Texas 61% 53% (104) 69% (72)
96. Toledo 61% 50% (111) 71% (64)
97. Miami-OH 60% 75% (51) 45% (118)
98. Kentucky 60% 60% (87) 60% (97)
99. Texas A&M 60% 46% (120) 74% (57)
100. ULM 59% 64% (80) 55% (106)
101. USF 59% 51% (109) 68% (75)
102. Boise St. 59% 75% (49) 42% (122)
103. WMU 58% 65% (78) 50% (113)
104. Duke 56% 51% (110) 62% (92)
105. La. Tech 56% 48% (116) 65% (82)
106. Charlotte 56% 66% (77) 46% (117)
107. FIU 56% 48% (115) 64% (88)
108. Florida 55% 41% (125) 70% (67)
109. Tulsa 55% 58% (93) 53% (109)
110. Alabama 55% 33% (126) 77% (41)
111. Stanford 55% 45% (122) 65% (81)
112. Marshall 55% 52% (106) 57% (101)
113. SMU 55% 50% (112) 59% (98)
114. UAB 55% 52% (107) 57% (100)
115. Air Force 54% 59% (91) 49% (116)
116. Buffalo 54% 52% (108) 56% (105)
117. Tennessee 54% 53% (103) 54% (107)
118. San Diego St. 52% 61% (84) 42% (121)
119. Ga. Southern 51% 46% (119) 56% (103)
120. Kent St. 50% 50% (113) 50% (115)
121. Ohio St. 50% 55% (99) 44% (119)
122. New Mexico 49% 56% (95) 42% (123)
123. Notre Dame 49% 44% (123) 53% (108)
124. S. Carolina 47% 54% (102) 40% (124)
125. Temple 42% 41% (124) 43% (120)
126. Northwestern 34% 29% (127) 39% (125)
127. BYU 31% 47% (117) 16% (127)

This reminds me of Phil Steele's returning SR analysis

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9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

What the fuck am I reading about Jake Smith being someone who can get separation and run great routes? Is this real life? Holy shit.    It's irrelevant anyway. If Jake Smith doesn't drop 15 pounds, get his quickness back, and figure out how to actually consistently catch the ball, he'll be dropped through a trap door this spring.

 

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2021 Recruiting Class: Meet the Longhorns early enrollees

January 24, 2021 

The Longhorns 2021 recruiting cycle will finish next week after the second signing day period. A portion of the 2021 class has already started arriving on campus in Austin. Nine of the 21 signees have started getting accustomed to the Forty Acres.

The current class is ranked No. 17 according to 247Sports composite rankings. While these players originally signed to play for Tom Herman, they will have a new head coach and staff to get accustomed to. It will be an interesting dynamic with Steve Sarkisian running the show for the burnt orange, but many are hopeful for the future of Texas’ football program.

 Here are the full nine early enrollees:  

  • JD Coffey, Safety: Kennedale  Height  6-0.5  Weight 180
  • Jamier Johnson, CB: John Muir (CA). Height 6-0   Weight 170
  • Derrick Harris Jr, DE: New Caney Height 6-2.5  Weight 215
  • Terrence Cooks, LB: Shadow Creek Height 6-2   Weight 210
  • Jaden Alexis, WR: Monarch (FL) Height. 5-11  Weight. 185
  • Hayden Conner, OT: Taylor (Katy) Height  6-5.5  Weight. 317
  • Gunnar Helm, TE: Cherry Creek (CO)  Height 6-5  Weight 225
  • Charles Wright, QB: Austin High  Height. 6-1  Weight. 194
  • Isaac Pearson, P: Pro Kick Australia. Height 6-2    Weight 215

 

The Longhorns social media department recently put together a video of the early enrollees arriving to campus.

 

https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/lists/2021-recruiting-class-meet-the-longhorns-early-enrollees/

Looking at Charles Wright's hudl, he actually seems like a really good eval and a good fit for Sark's system. He has a fast release, can throw from multiple angles, and he is accurate. The last 3 star QB we had with similar qualities seemed like he turned out ok. 

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16 minutes ago, Hmmm said:

Who would you say on this team consistently created separation.  I'll hang up and listen.

Why would I say that there is one and what does that have to do with the point you attempted to insert, which was that Jake Smith actually did get separation?

Do you know what a red herring is? I'll stay online with bated breath.

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Why would I say that there is one and what does that have to do with the point you attempted to insert, which was that Jake Smith actually did get separation?

Do you know what a red herring is? I'll stay online with bated breath.

Ok,  Jake Smith never, ever once created separation.  You're right.  He's the least separation creator on the team.  Go ahead and dodge the question I asked because it's not relevant to your conversation.

http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=red+herring

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25 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Looking at Charles Wright's hudl, he actually seems like a really good eval and a good fit for Sark's system. He has a fast release, can throw from multiple angles, and he is accurate. The last 3 star QB we had with similar qualities seemed like he turned out ok. 

He's a big kid, too. And I'm guessing he's used to being hit playing behind that line.

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49 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

What the fuck am I reading about Jake Smith being someone who can get separation and run great routes? Is this real life? Holy shit. 

It's irrelevant anyway. If Jake Smith doesn't drop 15 pounds, get his quickness back, and figure out how to actually consistently catch the ball, he'll be dropped through a trap door this spring.

That famous play where he dropped the critical 3rd down pass, he made just a stupid good spin move on the snag route iirc to get wide the fuck open. Then he dropped the pass of course. 

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20 minutes ago, Hmmm said:

Ok,  Jake Smith never, ever once created separation.  You're right.  He's the least separation creator on the team.  Go ahead and dodge the question I asked because it's not relevant to your conversation.

http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=red+herring

Good lord, this doesn't even look like it's worth the fucking minor effort. 

Your rhetorical shit is weak and you post all retarded. I didn't say anything of the sort around Smith being "the least separation creator on the team", nor did I imply it. You took the challenge of someone calling out the premise that he actually got regular separation, which he didn't get in 2020, and chose to respond first with a red herring by trying to redirect the conversation with a new premise, unrelated to the original issue. That bullshit maneuver got called on you, so you then respond with hyperbole, which is akin to name-calling in a conversation when you've lost leverage of the logical direction and need to yet again redirect. At the same time, you also bitched that the other poster somehow lacks merit in their position because they had the temerity to ignore your original bullshit tactic in the first place.

Do yourself a favor and just admit that you like Jake Smith because ... reasons, and that you don't have a fucking clue when it comes to evaluating separation or route running and that you used those terms because you hear them when people talk about WRs and you thought it would legitimize your take about Smith being a potential 2021 All-American. (Also, Jake Smith as a 2021 All-American - HOLY FUCKING SHIT!) 

Or maybe you could show up with proofpoints that we can buy into around his great route running and separation skills. I watched a guy that was actually criticized by announcers for shitty route running this season, who was rarely open except in either blown coverage or broken plays. Maybe I missed some shit and his banana routes were drawn up by Herman and Yurcich and it was all on purpose. 

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Good lord, this doesn't even look like it's worth the fucking minor effort. 

Your rhetorical shit is weak and you post all retarded. I didn't say anything of the sort around Smith being "the least separation creator on the team", nor did I imply it. You took the challenge of someone calling out the premise that he actually got regular separation, which he didn't get in 2020, and chose to respond first with a red herring by trying to redirect the conversation with a new premise, unrelated to the original issue. That bullshit maneuver got called on you, so you then respond with hyperbole, which is akin to name-calling in a conversation when you've lost leverage of the logical direction and need to yet again redirect. At the same time, you also bitched that the other poster somehow lacks merit in their position because they had the temerity to ignore your original bullshit tactic in the first place.

Do yourself a favor and just admit that you like Jake Smith because ... reasons, and that you don't have a fucking clue when it comes to evaluating separation or route running and that you used those terms because you hear them when people talk about WRs and you thought it would legitimize your take about Smith being a potential 2021 All-American. (Also, Jake Smith as a 2021 All-American - HOLY FUCKING SHIT!) 

Or maybe you could show up with proofpoints that we can buy into around his great route running and separation skills. I watched a guy that was actually criticized by announcers for shitty route running this season, who was rarely open except in either blown coverage or broken plays. Maybe I missed some shit and his banana routes were drawn up by Herman and Yurcich and it was all on purpose. 

Lolz.  You're something else.  I had to bold it for you in case you missed your hypocrisy.  And, you're asking for "proofpoints".  OMFG, you do the work.. 

Let me break it down for you.  Conversation started as AA candidates and Moore's name popped up.  I brought up Jake's untapped potential.  I did not take the "challenge of someone calling out the premise that he actually got regular separation".  I asked who on the team consistently creates separation, not implying he does.  Ya know, to show me who's potentially better at running routes. 

So, I'll ask you again but make it easier for you:  who on this team has shown the ability to create separation at a college level?  Let's start there.  Or, you can just resort to name calling and hypocrisy. 

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So, I'll ask you again but make it easier for you:  who on this team has shown the ability to create separation at a college level?  Let's start there.  Or, you can just resort to name calling and hypocrisy. 

You lost an argument and tried to change the topic of conversation. That's the whole "red herring" thing that ctj cited. Take the L so we don't have to watch this incredibly lame internet ass kicking continue, as he's too stubborn not to post like five hundred five-dollar words calling you stupid.

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Lolz.  You're something else.  I had to bold it for you in case you missed your hypocrisy.  And, you're asking for "proofpoints".  OMFG, you do the work.. 

Let me break it down for you.  Conversation started as AA candidates and Moore's name popped up.  I brought up Jake's untapped potential.  I did not take the "challenge of someone calling out the premise that he actually got regular separation".  I asked who on the team consistently creates separation, not implying he does.  Ya know, to show me who's potentially better at running routes. 

So, I'll ask you again but make it easier for you:  who on this team has shown the ability to create separation at a college level?  Let's start there.  Or, you can just resort to name calling and hypocrisy. 

Oh, it’s broken down alright. I knew it wasn’t worth my time. I don’t owe you shit regarding your mouthbreather question as it wasn’t what I engaged on in the first place. It’s clear the premise of a red herring is lost on you and I can’t, in good faith, engage in actual football dialogue with someone that posts wearing clown makeup from a padded room. 

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Oh, it’s broken down alright. I knew it wasn’t worth my time. I don’t owe you shit regarding your mouthbreather question as it wasn’t what I engaged on in the first place. It’s clear the premise of a red herring is lost on you and I can’t, in good faith, engage in actual football dialogue with someone that posts wearing clown makeup from a padded room. 

Cool, you win.  Congratulations!  Your time must be very, very valuable spending it here.  Send me an invoice for your services and carry on.  I'll take the L if it means I no longer have to wallow in mud with you.

 

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Lolz.  You're something else.  I had to bold it for you in case you missed your hypocrisy.  And, you're asking for "proofpoints".  OMFG, you do the work.. 

Let me break it down for you.  Conversation started as AA candidates and Moore's name popped up.  I brought up Jake's untapped potential.  I did not take the "challenge of someone calling out the premise that he actually got regular separation".  I asked who on the team consistently creates separation, not implying he does.  Ya know, to show me who's potentially better at running routes. 

So, I'll ask you again but make it easier for you:  who on this team has shown the ability to create separation at a college level?  Let's start there.  Or, you can just resort to name calling and hypocrisy. 

Don't even bother, that's his shtick when he doesn't know the answer. He resorts to name calling and trying to turn the conversation around. He's a narcissistic sociopath who projects. 

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Cool, you win.  Congratulations!  Your time must be very, very valuable spending it here.  Send me an invoice for your services and carry on.  I'll take the L if it means I no longer have to wallow in mud with you.

 

ctj is a short tubby bitch with a napoleon complex. he is poor, slow, has no connections, and makes shit up and posts it here. he’s a gaping pussy. talk shit to him and never back down. 

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3 hours ago, irishtexan said:

You lost an argument and tried to change the topic of conversation. That's the whole "red herring" thing that ctj cited. Take the L so we don't have to watch this incredibly lame internet ass kicking continue, as he's too stubborn not to post like five hundred five-dollar words calling you stupid.

I thought that was called "moving the goalposts," though? A "red herring" is when you put information in intended to mislead someone down a wrong path.

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I’m starting to read CTJs posts narrated in my mind by Rick Sanchez voice. 
 

It’s incredible how well it fits.

I have actually been alternating between Rick James and Little Sweet from the Dr Pepper commercial and now it is must read postings.

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I thought that was called "moving the goalposts," though? A "red herring" is when you put information in intended to mislead someone down a wrong path.

Like when you put your mistress' blood-soaked cocktail dress in the trunk of your business partner's BMW.

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4 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

I’m starting to read CTJs posts narrated in my mind by Rick Sanchez voice. 
 

It’s incredible how well it fits.

This is amazing. 

 

"Oh, i-i-it’s broken down alright, Morty. <BELCH> I knew it wasn’t worth my time. I-I don’t owe you shit regarding your mouth- your mouthbreather question, Morty! <BURP>"  

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ctj is a short tubby bitch with a napoleon complex. he is poor, slow, has no connections, and makes shit up and posts it here. he’s a gaping pussy. talk shit to him and never back down. 

nigga @futureman smoking on a @closetojumping pack 

u ethered that opp 🤡 ctj

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Jake Smith being praised for getting separation? Someone post a clip from the 2019 TCU game where he ran his route, I will call it a “curl” right into the defender who was in zone coverage thus resulting in an interception. I’d never seen a receiver so drawn to a defender standing flat footed in zone coverage. 

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