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A few hours in last night and I found myself down as much as -$1700. In retrospect I think I started playing looser than normal in the live streams because I could get away with it and then it later it bled my regular play. Def a leak I need to be aware of.

I’d bounced back to having $1100 in front of me, when I get AcKd UTG. I open to $25 and get calls from HJ, BTN, SB and BB. Not good. $125 pot

KcJs3c.

SB and BB check. I don’t know the right play here. I could just plan for a weak check call strategy. For whatever reason, though, I decide I’m going take an aggressive path instead. I decide to lead out $80 to make the obvious draws pay. HJ folds. BTN (40ish black reg, $800) takes some time and calls. SB folds. BB (40ish aggro Asian pro, $1060) makes it $210. I’m certainly not folding. Can’t comfortably 3bet with BTN behind, so just call. BTN again takes a while and decided to fold. $625 pot

9h. BB almost instantly jams his $850.

33, QT, KJ, K3s maybe J3s are all viable hands ahead of me. He could also have AT, Q9 and about 2/3rds of his flush draws (I have the Ac) but I’m not sure most players jam any of them. This guy, though, is definitely a player willing to jam frequently to induce folds.

He is very stoic and providing no indications of being more or less comfortable than normal.

Call or Fold?

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Against an agg willing to ram and jam to force folds, I think I close my eyes and click call.  I think 3b flop is also fine against this player type to then not price in BTN with draws and such. Not saying calling is an error, just saying I think 3b is viable. Would you jam hands like QT or ATcc here? Then have to have some made hand jams. 

I also don't hate folding your AK and AA here on the turn when you have Ac, and calling when we don't have Ac. 

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I cringe and call.

Blank river and he just says “you won”. I don’t press him to show first because his bullshit plays are good for the game. I show and take down the $2300 pot

I finished the night +$7 when I was fully prepared to slink home empty handed, so a good night.

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Yeah, I get your point on 3betting flop, because I am jamming a lot of my draws in this position. I’m curious now if he would have then called me. It’s possible he had pure air and just committed to the bluff

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9 hours ago, Lurch said:

A few hours in last night and I found myself down as much as -$1700. In retrospect I think I started playing looser than normal in the live streams because I could get away with it and then it later it bled my regular play. Def a leak I need to be aware of.

I’d bounced back to having $1100 in front of me, when I get AcKd UTG. I open to $25 and get calls from HJ, BTN, SB and BB. Not good. $125 pot

KcJs3c.

9h. BB almost instantly jams his $850.

33, QT, KJ, K3s maybe J3s are all viable hands ahead of me. He could also have AT, Q9 and about 2/3rds of his flush draws (I have the Ac) but I’m not sure most players jam any of them. This guy, though, is definitely a player willing to jam frequently to induce folds.

Call or Fold?

 

5 hours ago, Lurch said:

I cringe and call.

Blank river and he just says “you won”. I don’t press him to show first because his bullshit plays are good for the game. I show and take down the $2300 pot

I also think Q9cc or even T9cc are in his range.    with Q9cc being the more likely.  2nd flush draw + gutterball.  Then binking a pair allowing him to semi-bluff jam with a larger than pot bet. 

I really dont think QT open shoves there, maybe leads for $3-400, but shoving the nuts there seems like a losing move, at that point the only hands that absolutely have to call are the 4 sets, KJ , K9, maybe J9cc, or AJcc.   Thats only around 22 hand combos.  AK is 50/50.   so basically something like 25 hand combos might call him there.

everything else most likely folds, incl  a non-paired A flush draw, so he is chasing off all his profit on an open shove.   

So the liklihood of a semi bluff jam are a lot higher. I think you correctly called, (duh obvi- lol) but I mean the call there I think was the right play.   of course when the club hits and you get felted there... you wonder why the poker gods hate you. 

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How reliable are blockers when putting people on ranges in PLO?

5-handed limped pot yesterday, with a pretty passive, easy table. The flop was J diamonds, 8 hearts, 4 diamonds, and I have A-9 of diamonds, J of clubs, 7 of spades.

Check, check, I bet 50% of pot with my top top, nut flush draw, and backdoor straight draw, and the cutoff pots it. We're very deep.

I didn't know the player very well, but he seemed a bit splashy. What ranges would you put him on?

It folded to me and I called. The turn was 7 of hearts, I checked, he bet 60% of pot, and I called. He could have 9-T for a straight, a set, and maybe also a backdoor flush draw. But since I had a 9, I discounted him having 9-T.

River was J of spades, giving me the second nuts and blocker to the nuts. I checked, he bet 60% of the pot and instantly folded to a little more than a min check-raise, which surprised me.

I don't think he's snap-folding a full house there. He might've bet his straight for value with a plan to fold to any raise with the board pairing.

If I had 9-T in his shoes, I would have checked the river. Is that a bad play in the long term? The board was J-8-4-7-J rainbow.

 

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blockers don't mean shit in plo/bigo

Nothing warms my heart more than scooping a pot with the nuts while the loser says "but I had blockers"

nearly the full deck is dealt out. There's a >90% chance someone has that card in their hand

 

I'd put him on, total air, AA/KK/QQ, two pair, set, Kdxd after that flop and bet

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How reliable are blockers when putting people on ranges in PLO?
5-handed limped pot yesterday, with a pretty passive, easy table. The flop was J diamonds, 8 hearts, 4 diamonds, and I have A-9 of diamonds, J of clubs, 7 of spades.
Check, check, I bet 50% of pot with my top top, nut flush draw, and backdoor straight draw, and the cutoff pots it. We're very deep.
I didn't know the player very well, but he seemed a bit splashy. What ranges would you put him on?
It folded to me and I called. The turn was 7 of hearts, I checked, he bet 60% of pot, and I called. He could have 9-T for a straight, a set, and maybe also a backdoor flush draw. But since I had a 9, I discounted him having 9-T.
River was J of spades, giving me the second nuts and blocker to the nuts. I checked, he bet 60% of the pot and instantly folded to a little more than a min check-raise, which surprised me.
I don't think he's snap-folding a full house there. He might've bet his straight for value with a plan to fold to any raise with the board pairing.
If I had 9-T in his shoes, I would have checked the river. Is that a bad play in the long term? The board was J-8-4-7-J rainbow.
 

Blockers in PLO are more relevant when you play with folks that actually understand “the great game”. I am not one of those, and assume neither are the majority of players you’re playing with.

In the short term it makes for more swingy and frustrating sessions, but in the long run if helps your print money.

Xoxo,
NLHE player who loves some gamble and donks off in PLO
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the game appreciates your donation. 

Indeed. Betting into the nuts one hand and folding to air another is not a winning formula. Can be really hard to get a read on people on these streams sometimes. I thought an old man was a nit only to later learn he was a madman. In retrospect it’s obvious, but in the game when he was never showing I just read him completely wrong
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21 minutes ago, Lurch said:


Indeed. Betting into the nuts one hand and folding to air another is not a winning formula. Can be really hard to get a read on people on these streams sometimes. I thought an old man was a nit only to later learn he was a madman. In retrospect it’s obvious, but in the game when he was never showing I just read him completely wrong

do you have your phone on these? are you watching the stream with it or have someone texting your previous hands?

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Anyone in Houston should be playing at Legends.  $5 per hour for another ten days or so.  Matching all time purchases > $100.  All to sink Johnny Chan's game which still had seven tables running yesterday.  Legends though had about four times that.  

Had the biggest yo-yo session of my life yesterday.  Ran a $400 profit after about four hours.  Then flopped a flush v. a set and lost both run outs.  J-5-2-J Board and put my opponent on an overpair when he had AJ.  Poop.  -$700 overall of $800 buy ins.  

Took last $100 and grinded it back up to $1200 with a $400 profit.  

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Wow, $5/hour, that's low.

I had a 4 day DFW poker bender a couple of weeks ago and hit up Texas Card House, Poker House, and Shuffle214. They each ran some kind of promo that got the rate down to $10-11/hour if you bought several at a time. TCH games were nuts. I sat at a 2/5 table that probably had $50k on the table. Shuffle214 had the fewest games running, but had a $50 day pass. 

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15 minutes ago, CBT said:

Wow, $5/hour, that's low.

I had a 4 day DFW poker bender a couple of weeks ago and hit up Texas Card House, Poker House, and Shuffle214. They each ran some kind of promo that got the rate down to $10-11/hour if you bought several at a time. TCH games were nuts. I sat at a 2/5 table that probably had $50k on the table. Shuffle214 had the fewest games running, but had a $50 day pass. 

A few places in Houston are getting crushed lately and are raking games.  It's only a matter of time until one of those places gets raided.

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23 minutes ago, deech said:

A few places in Houston are getting crushed lately and are raking games.  It's only a matter of time until one of those places gets raided.

Damn that sucks cause it'll look bad for all the legit places. What's the problem? too many rooms?

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12 minutes ago, CBT said:

Damn that sucks cause it'll look bad for all the legit places. What's the problem? too many rooms?

Yes.  Too many rooms on the same sides of town.  Rooms get one table at most with people that own the place or people that work their playing.  So they rake the game instead of charging per hour as its better for the house especially when the house is playing in the game as well.  It will definitely put poker in the state in a predicament if a few places get raided.

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On 5/18/2021 at 3:12 PM, dirtonia said:

Lolololol, speaking of kings.
 

 

On 5/18/2021 at 6:00 PM, AUS-97HORN said:

Rampage is a guy i started watching his videos on youtube about 2.5 years ago.  At the time he was playing 1/2 NL and occassionally slightly higher. 

 

when I was playing at APP thats the stakes I was playing so I was watching originally to see what kind of moves he would make to see if I could learn anything since we were both playing at the same level (albeit  I was in Texas in a no fold em before the flop place- and he was in real casinos in boston.)

   I just couldnt understand how he was ever making money because the dude is just so wrecklessly aggressive. 

but he started rattling off major profit wins episode after episode,  like buyin for $500 cash out out for $3500 kinda eps.   

he bumped himself up to 2/5, then when covid hit  he went almost exclusively online, and for a while (March- June)  was one of a very few poker vlogers with any new content to post on youtube. 

I posted his 9+ hour livestream in the 2020 poker thread where he ended up winning a WSOP bracelet in one of the $500 entry tourneys. 

his favorite saying is folding is boring...   he LOVES to fucking hero call....  when you watch his live recaps in hands it makes me nuts because hes completely missing strength bets by his opponents acting like hes got blockers and shit to make his bluff work way more often than it should...  and hes started to get stacked much more often just like that hand above.   Probably because hes now playing at a level that hes not even close enough to be good at. 

shows me what I know.

 

the kid binked another huge tourney win.  $1100 Venetian buy in and he wins and takes home $230k.  

 

 

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I come in to play my usual $2/5NL and about 30 mins in they call a $2/5 Live Stream. I go ahead and get on the list assuming I’d fill in later, but a ton of registered players didn’t show so they called me right away. I’m already up $300 so I figured I’d just buy in with my current stack of $1100. Only then do I realize this was $2/5 PLO. Oops. Fuck it let’s roll…

I’ll tell you now I almost certainly played pretty sub optimal if you care to watch and laugh.

4 hours later I cash out with $3300+

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