87th Texas Legislature

[Updawg 2378]

2100 leg staff may have just received their last paycheck. I wonder if health benefits etc are gone as well starting sept 1

[High Plains Drifter 11162]

 

Could they not have overrode the veto?

 

 

[Js1 86945]

10 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Could they not have overrode the veto?

 

 

It’s murky whether they can override a veto done after the regular session sine die in a special session.  The TLC said in 1990 they can’t 

[Guest Lobo]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

Fuck the quorum.  How do you do redistricting with no legislative staff, since Abbott so wisely vetoed the Legislature's budget?

If Abbott doesn't give a clean call for Article X appropriation and redistricting, that issue is going to be resolved by the courts.

With no staffers, I'm picturing Cecil Bell and Briscoe Cain standing over a printed version of the census report and an interactive version of the Texas State Map.  Exhaling dramatically, "Ewww boy, that's a lot of numbers.  We got anybody we can call to help on this math?  And look at this map, no way to tell where the blacks and the Jews are."  

But yeah, did anybody tell the GOP gunslingers...no legislative body can overturn our state legislative body.  But there are courts that can overturn our state courts.  

Bold strategy cotton.  

[Updawg 2378]

2100 leg staff may have just received their last paycheck. I wonder if health benefits etc are gone as well starting sept 1

Now that I think about it. Sept 1 will be their last paycheck.

Not sure how benefits would work. It’s going to be an ugly mess if not fixed by then. I can see a lot of them working one hour in sept to get credit and then checking out.

[StassneyHorn 6755]

 

[Biff Tannen 46061]

13 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

 

[Js1 86945]

We done effed up

 

[Ghost of LL 15664]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

We done effed up

 

I wonder where they found that funding.

[Fudge Nuggets 19407]

On 8/5/2021 at 4:19 PM, Ghost of LL said:

If Abbott doesn't give a clean call for Article X appropriation and redistricting, that issue is going to be resolved by the courts.

So we’re still fucked?

[Updawg 2378]

I wonder where they found that funding.

Probably aisd or maybe the rainy day fund

[Guest Lobo]

2 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I wonder where they found that funding.

The border wall account?

 

"Of course Momma Dan's gonna help build the wall"  

[atomheartbevo 90549]

59 minutes ago, Lobo said:

"Of course Momma Dan's gonna help build the wall"  

[DanRydell 799]

I wonder where they found that funding.

Or from where they think they derive the power to appropriate it.

[Js1 86945]

 

[Guest Lobo]

Per Dade Phelan?  And also orbitz, southwest, and the gate agent at ABIA.  

[Js1 86945]

Senate rule changes to ram through shit bills

Still won’t matter - TX House Dems keeping an active presence in DC to deny quorum

 

[DDD Dad 14572]

[kevwun 16269]

[miguelito 11450]

Stupid question: what would the quorum numbers look like if the Dems came back from DC?

[Js1 86945]

2 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

 

Abbott is getting dumber. Why not wait until 2 weeks to call the second session? 

[Hagbard Celine 11160]

On 8/6/2021 at 9:38 PM, Lobo said:

The border wall account?

"Of course Momma Dan's gonna help build the wall"  

Crafstmanship.

[cactusflinthead 27626]

16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Abbott is getting dumber. Why not wait until 2 weeks to call the second session? 

When your opponent is fucking up, let him.

[JohnnyRage 1617]

1 hour ago, miguelito said:

Stupid question: what would the quorum numbers look like if the Dems came back from DC?

They would be 'arrested' and the sick Republicans would magically show up.

[elfenix 34658]

With no staffers, I'm picturing Cecil Bell and Briscoe Cain standing over a printed version of the census report and an interactive version of the Texas State Map.  Exhaling dramatically, "Ewww boy, that's a lot of numbers.  We got anybody we can call to help on this math?  And look at this map, no way to tell where the blacks and the Jews are."  
But yeah, did anybody tell the GOP gunslingers...no legislative body can overturn our state legislative body.  But there are courts that can overturn our state courts.  
Bold strategy cotton.  

An outside political fuckwad group will happily draw up the new districts without needing the legislative staff.

[Guest Lobo]

Absolutely.  TPPF director and board have already tacitly boasted that they have already begun a corollary map redraw as a potential aide to the legislature. 

[DanRydell 799]

Stupid question: what would the quorum numbers look like if the Dems came back from DC?

Assuming all 67 Dems were there, you could have a quorum with just 33 of the 82 Republicans.

[Js1 86945]

1 hour ago, DanRydell said:

Assuming all 67 Dems were there, you could have a quorum with just 33 of the 82 Republicans.

10 of the more vulnerable Dems out of the 50 in DC could show up as a ploy towards their district and dip out again right before the 10 COVID Republicans show back up. 

[atomheartbevo 90549]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Abbott is getting dumber. 

No, he's getting more patriotic!

[cactusflinthead 27626]

 

[cactusflinthead 27626]

Oh that's why they had to get rules changed.

 

[Guest Lobo]

Briscoe Cain won't be able to make roll call tomorrow morning.  Second Monday of August is Briscoe Day.  We all know what that entails.  He becomes the "M" in ATM.  

[atomheartbevo 90549]

Hold the presses....errr the arrests

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/district-judge-temporarily-blocks-arrest-of-any-texas-house-members-breaking-quorum/

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A state district judge signed a temporary restraining order Sunday that blocks law enforcement from arresting any House lawmakers who have broken quorum. 

Travis County State District Judge Brad Urrutia’s move temporarily restricts Gov. Greg Abbott and House Speaker Dade Phelan’s power to arrest or detain any of the House Democrats who fled to D.C. earlier this summer in order to kill the controversial, GOP-backed elections bill.

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The order lasts 14 days, unless extended by Judge Urrutia.

 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

Senate Committee hearing on the election bill started this morning, still going now. Gotta good "I've seen movies, I've seen Mission Impossible" from some poll watcher for the Libertarian party. Got a Wassdorf sighting as well sitting in front of Sen. Hughes

https://tlcsenate.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=5&event_id=4241

 

[Js1 86945]

They got up to 94 members today. This disappoints me Bc idk what he’s thinking 

They can’t even stay on message. They look stupid now. 

 

Edited August 9, 2021 by Js1

[Doc Sam Beckett 5854]

Nice job jagoffs

[Brisketexan 106629]

Looking for courage, consistency, and solid strategy from Democrats is like looking for integrity and decency in the GQP.....

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

[Js1 86945]

God damn amazing how The Simpsons is never wrong 

[Zepol87 9308]

Of fucking course this happens

[Js1 86945]

House voted 80-12 to send law enforcement to get the quorum-breaking Dems under warrant of arrest.

Here. We. Go. 

[wildcat09 29559]

Aren't they still in DC? 

[Js1 86945]

10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Aren't they still in DC? 

Not all, a bunch of them came back. I know Celia Israel (HD-50) is back but said no way in hell she’s stepping onto the House floor Bc they have the judge’s order protecting them. 

12 of them are in the chamber (all voted no), a handful are back in Austin but not at the Capitol and the rest are either in DC or didn't want to say (Zwiener was one who said she was leaving DC but refused to disclose where she was going).   

Edited August 10, 2021 by Js1

[DDD Dad 14572]

57 minutes ago, Js1 said:

House voted 80-12 to send law enforcement to get the quorum-breaking Dems under warrant of arrest.
Here. We. Go. 

So we have a clash between the Lege and the courts? Cool, cool.

ETA: I didn't see that SCOTX had granted stay pending mandamus of the lower court's TRO.

Edited August 10, 2021 by DDD Dad

[Js1 86945]

It was actually 11 D and 1 R voting no

 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

With the Senate going on their fuck-the-rules spree at the beginning of the 2nd session its probably more important to sit this one out.

[StassneyHorn 6755]

Stream of SB1

https://tlcsenate.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=5&event_id=3863

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19279]

Putting this here.  

Infuriating.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-supreme-court-rules-republicans-021100868.html

[Voldemort86 2259]

Is there some kind of deadline the democrats in Washington DC are holding out for?  Is there a point where the legislature would have to give up on the voter suppression bill and start working on redistricting?

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4998]

13 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Putting this here.  

Infuriating.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-supreme-court-rules-republicans-021100868.html

I get the emotional why, but is there a legal why? From what more knowledgable folks have posted on this thread it seems pretty cut and dry. It sucks in this case, but it is the law, and it is there to prevent the legislature from completely abdicating themselves of any responsibility of governing. What actually sucks is that there isn't a mechanism in place to prevent its abuse.