Is Deshaun Watson Done in Houston?

[Pam Cummings 9582]

12 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

You people are dumb. If the Texans have a "if we can't have him, nobody can" mindset/strategy then they simply don’t trade him.  

And he would sit, and they would get murdered in the media. This makes all of that not happen now.

 

It befuddles me that you people expect anything different out of an organization with their track record.

Edited March 19, 2021 by Pam Cummings

[immamac 42519]

We talk about this on the pod with literally initial reactions without knowing any details at all except for some type of allegation. 

All of us immediately thought fuckery was afoot. Now that there are 9, I am leaning towards this is definitely true, but the Texans are also behind it - people that think billionaires won't destroy people just because they can are really really naive. Especially when it has to do with disrespect. This is a clean way to ruin someone without legal ramification or moral ramification. 

[Underdog 28457]

8 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Lulz. How many times have you had to text your masseuse after the fact apologizing for making them feel uncomfortable?

Hate when this happens anytime I visit my masseuse...

Spoiler

 

[Brothahorn 10085]

54 minutes ago, TexasGolf said:

The clutching of pearls about D4 is interesting.  Wait tell you learn Dhop was being black mailed by a transvestite and a big reason he wanted out of HOU. 
 

...Allegedly 😏

 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5784]

18 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Hate when this happens anytime I visit my masseuse...

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The masseuse laughs at the tiny tent? 

[Underdog 28457]

You've never complained about it. 

[Eskimohorn 5615]

We talk about this on the pod with literally initial reactions without knowing any details at all except for some type of allegation. 
All of us immediately thought fuckery was afoot. Now that there are 9, I am leaning towards this is definitely true, but the Texans are also behind it - people that think billionaires won't destroy people just because they can are really really naive. Especially when it has to do with disrespect. This is a clean way to ruin someone without legal ramification or moral ramification. 

It’s 9, in part, because Watson has been under surveillance. It seems likely that the Texans initiated the investigation.

Whether that’s true or not, it could have already been known by Watson’s camp and this could be related to why the vitriol was so severe.

The whole episode reminds me of Hollywood studio heads owning contracts of actors and being part of blackmail schemes so they can improve their leverage.

[alincoln 2364]

29 minutes ago, immamac said:

We talk about this on the pod with literally initial reactions without knowing any details at all except for some type of allegation. 

All of us immediately thought fuckery was afoot. Now that there are 9, I am leaning towards this is definitely true, but the Texans are also behind it - people that think billionaires won't destroy people just because they can are really really naive. Especially when it has to do with disrespect. This is a clean way to ruin someone without legal ramification or moral ramification. 

If it ever came to light that the Texans facilitated these claims in any way (regardless of their veracity), they would immediately become the ultimate pariah in professional sports and current ownership would be forced to sell the team at a discount.  

[HtownHorn 14488]

5 minutes ago, alincoln said:

If it ever came to light that the Texans facilitated these claims in any way (regardless of their veracity), they would immediately become the ultimate pariah in professional sports and current ownership would be forced to sell the team at a discount.  

It's very interesting to see the fan fic bois ascribed a certain level of evil to an entire organization that while known for continently making stupid decisions have never been involved in anything sinister compared to writing off the possibility that Watson is entirely at fault for being a sexual predator.

Given what we have seen in America the past few years, the most likely scenario is that Watson likes butt stuff with strangers and thought because of his wealth, power, and privilege all these encounters were 100% consensual. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

10 minutes ago, alincoln said:

If it ever came to light that the Texans facilitated these claims in any way (regardless of their veracity), they would immediately become the ultimate pariah in professional sports and current ownership would be forced to sell the team at a discount.  

Texans fans now rooting for this scenario given current ownership

[Atticus 3922]

I'm still not seeing where any of these allegations can be considered rape. This is still far less than anything Antonio Brown actually did. Low bar, but still.

I'm still smelling bullshit and a cash grab/smear campaign in the works.

Edited March 19, 2021 by Atticus

[Machinator 32097]

12 minutes ago, Atticus said:

I'm still not seeing where any of these allegations can be considered rape. This is still far less than anything Antonio Brown actually did. Low bar, but still.

I'm still smelling bullshit and a cash grab/smear campaign in the works.

Did you not read about forced oral sex alleged in the third lawsuit?

[conVINCEd 21468]

There is a lot of room between making someone feel uncomfortable and sexual assault.

[Gene Parmesan 3993]

1 minute ago, conVINCEd said:

There is a lot of room between making someone feel uncomfortable and sexual assault.

One girl alleges forced oral sex.  Whether there is evidence beyond he said she said remains to be seen, but that is certainly sexual assault.

[alincoln 2364]

32 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

It's very interesting to see the fan fic bois ascribed a certain level of evil to an entire organization that while known for continently making stupid decisions have never been involved in anything sinister compared to writing off the possibility that Watson is entirely at fault for being a sexual predator.

Given what we have seen in America the past few years, the most likely scenario is that Watson likes butt stuff with strangers and thought because of his wealth, power, and privilege all these encounters were 100% consensual. 

The leap from making/approving bad football decisions and hires to coordinating sexual assault allegations against the most valuable asset of your business is dramatic.  

[Enchubben 5509]

3 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

There is a lot of room between making someone feel uncomfortable and sexual assault.

Not in the court of public opinion.

[Enchubben 5509]

37 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Texans fans now rooting for this scenario given current ownership

I need all of this to be true so that happens. They might even get some money out of me if the franchise is sold. 

[JerrysJheriCurl 977]

Searching for masseuses on Instagram is a thing?

I haz a case of the olds and am not on any social media platforms (sans Surl)...so...

Can someone help me understand the purpose of being on Instagram? 
And then explain to me why anyone would use Instagram to find a masseuse.

I am thoroughly confused. 

[BurntOrange&White 39661]

2 minutes ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

Searching for masseuses on Instagram is a thing?

I haz a case of the olds and am not on any social media platforms (sans Surl)...so...

Can someone help me understand the purpose of being on Instagram? 
And then explain to me why anyone would use Instagram to find a masseuse.

I am thoroughly confused. 

Because it’s publicity. You can advertise yourself and your services. Social media is a conglomerate of advertising. More importantly it’s absolutely free and if your following grows enough you can make money off of your post. 
 

There is a video of Lana Rhodes talking about she makes more money off social media than porn. 

Edited March 19, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[Gene Parmesan 3993]

6 minutes ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

Searching for masseuses on Instagram is a thing?

I haz a case of the olds and am not on any social media platforms (sans Surl)...so...

Can someone help me understand the purpose of being on Instagram? 
And then explain to me why anyone would use Instagram to find a masseuse.

I am thoroughly confused. 

The internet is like the white pages but on a computer.

Edited March 19, 2021 by Gene Parmesan

[Atticus 3922]

10 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Did you not read about forced oral sex alleged in the third lawsuit?

Nah, I've been mostly skimming articles. As I said, this feels too much like bullshit to really focus on.

Deshaun has my benefit of the doubt over IG clout chasers until something real materializes.

IIRC, I read something about a masseuse being naked during the massage, then saying that she was uncomfortable when his penis was erect. Why was she naked in the first place?

[Zeus 5950]

12 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Nah, I've been mostly skimming articles. As I said, this feels too much like bullshit to really focus on.

Deshaun has my benefit of the doubt over IG clout chasers until something real materializes.

IIRC, I read something about a masseuse being naked during the massage, then saying that she was uncomfortable when his penis was erect. Why was she naked in the first place?

 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Nine accusers seems like a lot.

This lawyer loving attention only thing that gives me pause. What lawyer posts case updates on instagram.

[Zeus 5950]

4 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Nine accusers seems like a lot.

This lawyer loving attention only thing that gives me pause. What lawyer posts case updates on instagram.

Smart ones that understand how to leverage public opinion to get his clients and himself the maximum money. It's fucked up but the social media age has turned the court of public opinion into a very easy to use weapon. 

[gyroprotagonist 2591]

On 3/18/2021 at 9:54 AM, Richard Kimball said:

Cases like this are Rorschach tests. Some people will believe her, some him, without any knowledge of the situation.  

I'll say two things, though. Any woman who runs a massage service out of her house and advertises on Instagram cannot be surprised if some of her customers expect more than a massage. Hell, I'm just on Facebook, and probably half of my "friend" requests are thots looking for johns, and my Facebook is about as clean as it gets. I never have anything remotely sexual on it. 

I'd also guess that most NFL franchises have people on staff for massages and physical therapy. 

user name checks out for false accusations

[Pasken 1309]

1 hour ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

Searching for masseuses on Instagram is a thing?

I haz a case of the olds and am not on any social media platforms (sans Surl)...so...

Can someone help me understand the purpose of being on Instagram? 
And then explain to me why anyone would use Instagram to find a masseuse.

I am thoroughly confused. 

This reminds me of in Rugrats whenever Granpa would go on a rant.

[Zeus 5950]

 

 

 

[ztejas 43266]

7 hours ago, JFKFC said:

How is it he said/she said if only the he is apologizing? How is it he said/she said if the he is acknowledging that he made she feel uncomfortable through his actions?

DW is going to have to write a big check. 

 

Convinced answered it well enough for me.

1 hour ago, conVINCEd said:

There is a lot of room between making someone feel uncomfortable and sexual assault.

 

[JFKFC 4878]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Convinced answered it well enough for me.

 

How many times have you been falsely accused of sexual assault by a masseuse who you also apologized to for doing something completely legal that made her feel uncomfortable?

Never mind, don't answer that. That is probably a typical Tuesday for most of you guys. 

 

[runthebone 7932]

4 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

How many times have you been falsely accused of sexual assault by a masseuse who you also apologized to for doing something completely legal that made her feel uncomfortable?

Never mind, don't answer that. That is probably a typical Tuesday for most of you guys. 

 

Surly assholes don't apologize

[ztejas 43266]

8 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

How many times have you been falsely accused of sexual assault by a masseuse who you also apologized to for doing something completely legal that made her feel uncomfortable?

Never mind, don't answer that. That is probably a typical Tuesday for most of you guys. 

 

The masseuse can write any story she wants. And if she has that text, and her lawyer has it, and they know they have it, I'd think they are a little more likely to color the events in their favor. Because, like I already fucking told you, it's basically going to come down to he said she said. This isn't about what you personally beleive or not. 

Also, last time I checked, I'm not a multimillionaire sports celebrity with a finely-crafted image and public persona. The lines that I have to cross to get sued and that Deshaun has to cross to get sued are pretty different.

[Machinator 32097]

 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

It's very interesting to see the fan fic bois ascribed a certain level of evil to an entire organization that while known for continently making stupid decisions have never been involved in anything sinister compared to writing off the possibility that Watson is entirely at fault for being a sexual predator.

Given what we have seen in America the past few years, the most likely scenario is that Watson likes butt stuff with strangers and thought because of his wealth, power, and privilege all these encounters were 100% consensual. 

No CR, but Bob McNair was an architect of and major donor to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign. This family knows its way around a smear campaign. 

[ButtFumble 5158]

6 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

wiki says his agent is a UT grad and Nebraska Law grad

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

9 hours ago, Fletch said:

And he defends Emmanuel Acho. So yeahhhh his opinions are odd to say the least 

For the record, somebody said we only took Emmanuel Acho as a favor to Sam. That's just not true -- he was a blue chip coming out of St. Mark's: top 200 nationally, top 25 LB and top 25 instate recruit. 

I really don't give a fuck about his post-football career but to say he was a nepotism take on the order of Case McCoy or little Vaccaro is just flat out wrong. 

[clapclapclap 9000]

12 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

What kind of massages are you getting where you're apologizing to your masseuse after the appointment?  

It's complicated

 

[Fletch 5799]

Just now, MaybeACoordinator said:

For the record, somebody said we only took Emmanuel Acho as a favor to Sam. That's just not true -- he was a blue chip coming out of St. Mark's: top 200 nationally, top 25 LB and top 25 instate recruit. 

I really don't give a fuck about his post-football career but to say he was a nepotism take on the order of Case McCoy or little Vaccaro is just flat out wrong. 

That was me and no he wasn’t a blue chip. But you’re right, he wasn’t Kevin Vaccaro or Case. So congrats...? He was average at best here 

[OrangEngr 1034]

14 minutes ago, Fletch said:

That was me and no he wasn’t a blue chip. But you’re right, he wasn’t Kevin Vaccaro or Case. So congrats...? He was average at best here 

Hey man, don’t knock case. Isn’t it funnier that we sent aggy off with a loss to herp derp rather than someone like Vince or Colt?

 

 

 

[Zeus 5950]

[BurntOrange&White 39661]

Buzbee delete his Instagram?

 

https://www.instagram.com/tonybuzbee

[Eskimohorn 5615]

It's very interesting to see the fan fic bois ascribed a certain level of evil to an entire organization that while known for continently making stupid decisions have never been involved in anything sinister compared to writing off the possibility that Watson is entirely at fault for being a sexual predator.
Given what we have seen in America the past few years, the most likely scenario is that Watson likes butt stuff with strangers and thought because of his wealth, power, and privilege all these encounters were 100% consensual. 

HtownHomer, it’s plausible that the Texans, led by prosperity evangelicals who are purging themselves of people not like them, who have been involved in a major smear campaign before, who are neighbors with the lawyer leveling the accusations, who are have shown they are overly involved with the personal lives of employees, and have created a toxic culture, have a hand in a smear campaign against Deshaun.

The timing is suspect. The collection of witnesses is suspect.

It’s more likely than not that Watson was under surveillance for a period of time. How did it start? It’s possible a complainant initiated a meeting with Buzbee and that the investigation led to other victims.

But why Watson? Why now? It’s also possible Easterby and McNair initiated surveillance, including phone hacking.

It’s also possible McNair and Easterby are pieces of shit AND that Watson is a piece of shit creeper.

We don’t know, but coming into this many people had low opinions of Cal McNair and Easterby. And higher opinions of Watson. We’ll see how this plays out.

[Enchubben 5509]

3 hours ago, Atticus said:

IIRC, I read something about a masseuse being naked during the massage, then saying that she was uncomfortable when his penis was erect. Why was she naked in the first place?

Reminds me of that Dave Chappell standup where he talks about whores.

“Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true, Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't even forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is fucking confusing.It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.

[ztejas 43266]

12 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Buzbee delete his Instagram?

 

https://www.instagram.com/tonybuzbee

Hahahahah what the fuck. This just keeps getting better.

[Richard Kimball 1492]

3 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

There is a lot of room between making someone feel uncomfortable and sexual assault.

Nine inches. 

[Blotto 23434]

15 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

The account of the third alleged victim really rings true to me. The article I posted above has the official law suit filings for all three. She as newly engaged, just graduated chiropractic school in Houston. She is a licensed mobile massage therapist and was excited that a professional football player would want to use her services. As another poster mentioned she was so upset by being forced to perform oral sex on him that she basically shit in her pants. That’s not something someone would want to divulge. Of course I want to see all the evidence etc...but the more I read the more I start to doubt his innocence. I hope to be wrong because this is awful. It seems so out of line with the image he is known for. I don’t want to believe it’s true. 

17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Buzbee delete his Instagram?

 

https://www.instagram.com/tonybuzbee

instagram is down I think

Edited March 19, 2021 by Blotto

[ztejas 43266]

4 minutes ago, Blotto said:

instagram is down I think

You're right. That makes more sense.

[TexasGolf 4858]

4 hours ago, Brothahorn said:

 

Easier to blame Cal / surly

[GringoSalado 1651]

SIAP but I'm thinking these women came forward some time ago and the Texans tried to bury it and/or appease the complainants/victims. Then when things became toxic between the parties the Texans unburied it.

I have to say my initial reaction was "lol bullshit" but the addnl details and alleged victims changed my mind.

[Richter 2230]

@immamac please change the name of the thread to “Deshaun Watson really wants his PeePee touched”

[Foosters 17734]

Just now, Richter said:

@immamac please change the name of the thread to “Deshaun Watson:  really wants his PeePee touched” "chuck it in me dumpa."

fify