Hey PK -- What would you say you do here?

[Thiefery 5017]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

It’s pure hubris. You don’t go from a highly sought after coordinator to drooling moron overnight.  
 

Refusing to alter your scheme when your personnel can’t run it. We’ve seen that before and the results  

You can’t have Coburn in the doghouse when the whole unit is shit. 
 

fuck this guy

excuse me?  Coburn has been shit this whole fucking season.  Sweat/Murphy should both be ahead of him.  If anyone is in the dog house it seems to be Collins and Sorrell.. and they need to get them out on the field a lot more.

[Pods 7586]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Would probably work better if we had linebackers. But we don’t 

True, but we make up for that by also not having safeties. 

[JBJ 3666]

I think the biggest problem we have is not having DEs.  Whether it's generating pressure or holding an edge, we don't really have a single conventional DE on the roster.  Maybe down the roster in someone like Dorbah, but no one playing this year.

[Thiefery 5017]

Just now, JBJ said:

I think the biggest problem we have is not having DEs.  Whether it's generating pressure or holding an edge, we don't really have a single conventional DE on the roster.  Maybe down the roster in someone like Dorbah, but no one playing this year.

which is why we gotta make sure Finkley and Tapp remain in the class.  These guys will elevate the floor immediately.

[hookem48 4703]

18 minutes ago, Pods said:

Asking the supposed strength of the defense (DL) to eat blocks and funnel the playmaking to the weak links of the defense (LB and Safeties) has been a recipe for disaster and we've cooked several batches already this season.

Nothing fucks up a college offense like a DL that can penetrate and disrupt. 

I thought his defense was all about the dline penetrating, hell I know good and fucking well we talked about it when he was hired. wtf?

[taybo20 2878]

55 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

But when lined up this way, the numbers advantage is neutralized. You're inviting the very type of play OU ran, against one of the weakest links in our defense, personnel wise.  

And this is exactly why player ability and scheme work so hand in hand. Sure, it’s possible an elite talent could have single handedly made the play and tackled the RB. But we don’t have that guy. And schematically, we always hear how smart Lincoln is…well he knew how we’d line up and probably figured it’d work every time. He was right. I’m sure presnap they knew it was gonna be successful.

Texas was(is) deficient in players and scheme. When the player ability is fairly close, it’s all about scheme and leverage. Give the other team deficiencies in personnel…even easier. 

[taybo20 2878]

Double 

Edited October 11, 2021 by taybo20

[ruitxn 298]

1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

DJ Harris is a 6’2, 225lb true freshman edge rusher. If you’re not happy with Bush this year, then Harris almost certainly isn’t the answer. He’s smaller and probably much less assignment sound than Bush. I like Harris a lot as a prospect but not this year. 
 

The real problem is we took almost no good edge rush prospects between Ossai and Harris. Dorbah was one of the only high-rated edge guys we took and he’s been a bust. 

 

I know who Harris is, I watched him in high school and followed him on recruiting boards.  All state 2 years.  I honestly had never heard of Bush before he showed up mainly this year ( I know how he was placed on scholly).

Right now Bush outweighs him by what 10 pounds.  No comparison in weight room from what I hear.  Speed?  We won’t even go there.  Assignment sound?  Coaching and yes experience.  Really how much university on field experience did Bush have prior to this year.

I know Harris isn’t today what he should become.  I also know he is one hell of an athlete.  I would like to see more athleticism on the field.  I think we have better athletes that I would like to see playing if only situational than the two BBs.

I just mentioned Harris.  As others on this board are saying, there are others we question about playing opportunities.   Bottom line, as we are questioning our overall team talent we may also wonder why some highly recruited players and even portals  are riding the sidelines.  Can’t we wonder?  Coaching? Maybe, maybe not.  As I said in another post, we will know in another 2-3 years.  

Edited October 11, 2021 by ruitxn

[Longhorn94 2458]

1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

But when lined up this way, the numbers advantage is neutralized. You're inviting the very type of play OU ran, against one of the weakest links in our defense, personnel wise.  

i gotcha. so you want us to play the numbers away from the strength of the offense! what a novel approach. and what exactly do you think OU is going to do when we play numbers away from the 3x1 formation where the #3 receiver is lined up as a sniffer/HB to the field side with the back on the backside???  Again, our alignment on this play was traditional. We outnumbered OU on the boundary side. We just executed very, very poorly.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10357]

On 3/21/2021 at 4:09 PM, LTtxfan said:

From earlier this week... Just adding to this thread

 

Good time to bump this up... Re-watching I still feel strongly that PK is the right guy for this job. I'm looking at his year 2 Washington as what might lie ahead for Texas as well. He obviously a guy not set in any scheme or the past. By his actions at Washington he's also shown his ego isn't something that should be a concern. He's looking for solutions.

[Elmer_Fudd 22322]

Really hope PK gets this shit figured out because Sark is going have this team scoring bunches while he's here.  Don't want to become Tech like in the Kingsbury years.

[alphahorn 1637]

This is for us old fuckers. Those of us who can remember Texas vs Penn St 1984, when Texas won 28-3. Texas won that game at Giant Stadium thanks to Fred Akers outcoaching Joe Paterno.  Texas came out with an unbalance line that day.  Where ou used three tight ends in this game, Akers employed three tackles outside the center to create an unbalanced line.   Perhaps Sandusky was in the showers fucking an 11 year old, or perhaps he was just day dreaming of doing that after the game, but he never made the adjustment to get even numbers on the side we went unbalanced.  PK similarly never made adjustments to even the numbers when ou went to 13 personnel.  They outnumbered us each time they went to that formation and we never made adjustments to correct it.  ou gained over 330 yards on 7 fucking plays.  The counter with an unbalanced 13 personnel line dominated us and we never made the in game adjustments to stop it.  It wasn't about tackling; on the walk off run we didn't touch the runner because we never adjusted to the numbers advantage they had on the left side of the line.  

Edited October 12, 2021 by alphahorn

[Creasy Bear 667]

9 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Scip would complain about any S&C coach. He maybe right, I  dont know. Becton is not an innovator, but given his history I dont think he is necessarily a negative. The term JAG comes  to mind. The real issue is the defense is bad. The edges are held up by the likes of Jett Bush, when simple physics will tell you he isnt going to win many match-ups. The defense is set up to funnel plays to the LBs and Safeties, when neither are very good or tackle particularly well. Those are much bigger issues right now, than asking how many squats Texas did this year. 

Jett Bush and other personnel decisions is what bothers me the most about PK. There are players getting meaningful snaps that have no business being on the field.

[6th Street 6508]

Low energy Jett

[ClubWhatever 12158]

1 hour ago, alphahorn said:

This is for us old fuckers. Those of us who can remember Texas vs Penn St 1984, when Texas won 28-3. Texas won that game at Giant Stadium thanks to Fred Akers outcoaching Joe Paterno.  Texas came out with an unbalance line that day.  Where ou used three tight ends in this game, Akers employed three tackles outside the center to create an unbalanced line.   Perhaps Sandusky was in the showers fucking an 11 year old, or perhaps he was just day dreaming of doing that after the game, but he never made the adjustment to get even numbers on the side we went unbalanced.  PK similarly never made adjustments to even the numbers when ou went to 13 personnel.  They outnumbered us each time they went to that formation and we never made adjustments to correct it.  ou gained over 330 yards on 7 fucking plays.  The counter with an unbalanced 13 personnel line dominated us and we never made the in game adjustments to stop it.  It wasn't about tackling; on the walk off run we didn't touch the runner because we never adjusted to the numbers advantage they had on the left side of the line.  

The unbalance was to the opposite side they ran to, wasn’t it?   It was direct snap counter.   Just another way to run their bread and butter except the counter motion was by their QB not the RB.  

Edited October 12, 2021 by ClubWhatever

[westexhorn 2020]

I remember reading from some of the posters from hardcorehusky saying that PK would occassionally struggle against Stanford's run game.  Wonder if this is what we are seeing from him atm.

[alphahorn 1637]

12 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

The unbalance was to the opposite side they ran to, wasn’t it?   It was direct snap counter.   Just another way to run their bread and butter except the counter motion was by their QB not the RB.  

I can't find a good video of that last play where I can freeze the pre snap set up.  Perhaps you're correct, but the principle is the same., they created a numbers advantage by pulling and/or alignment that we never adjusted to

Edited October 12, 2021 by alphahorn

[Burt Macklin 19053]

21 minutes ago, alphahorn said:

I don't think so, they were off balance to the side they ran to the side they had the numbers

Nope. It was a GT Counter. It’s been Riley’s bread and butter for years. 

[hookem48 4703]

Sark flat out said the problem was players trying to make a play and not doing their job so either Sark is a piece of shit that's protecting his DC by blaming the players or we had players not doing their job.

[Burt Macklin 19053]

5 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

Sark flat out said the problem was players trying to make a play and not doing their job so either Sark is a piece of shit that's protecting his DC by blaming the players or we had players not doing their job.

Whose fault do you think it is if the players aren’t doing their jobs? 

Edited October 12, 2021 by Burt Macklin

[hookem48 4703]

Just now, Burt Macklin said:

Who’s fault do you think it is if the players aren’t doing their jobs? 

the players you fucking idiot, tell us more how Karic is the answer

[Burt Macklin 19053]

Just now, hookem48 said:

the players you fucking idiot, tell us more how Karic is the answer

Lulz. It’s not like it’s one player screwing up. There’s breakdowns across the board. That’s coaching. 

[maninblack 7974]

54 minutes ago, Creasy Bear said:

Jett Bush and other personnel decisions is what bothers me the most about PK. There are players getting meaningful snaps that have no business being on the field.

Imagine what's behind them

[ClubWhatever 12158]

On the last TD, 18 crashed down and didn’t keep contain.  He does that a lot.  

[hookem48 4703]

1 minute ago, Burt Macklin said:

Lulz. It’s not like it’s one player screwing up. There’s breakdowns across the board. That’s coaching. 

and Sark is saying just the opposite, hmm who to believe. I guess I'm going to have to go with Sark.

[alphahorn 1637]

18 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Nope. It was a GT Counter. It’s been Riley’s bread and butter for years. 

OK they accomplished the same thing via an alternative means.  they created numbers and we didn't react or adjust

[alphahorn 1637]

4 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Imagine what's behind them

yep, how did Herman neglect this side of the ball to this extent

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

Nebraska doesn't have better athletes on Defense, yet contained OU much more effectively.  And that was in Norman. 

[USNALonghorn 5078]

330 yards on 7 plays… that is a ridiculous statistic. Just like during the Arkansas game, we bent a bunch and then we broke in a spectacular fashion. So is it S&C or defensive coaching? It’s hard to be this bad without a systemic issue going on. 

[BurntOrange&White 40038]

Just now, USNALonghorn said:

330 yards on 7 plays… that is a ridiculous statistic. Just like during the Arkansas game, we bent a bunch and then we broke in a spectacular fashion. So is it S&C or defensive coaching? It’s hard to be this bad without a systemic issue going on. 

It’s lack of depth, coaching, and lack of difference makers.  

[taybo20 2878]

I’m tired of the S and C argument. That isn’t the problem.

[XForce 218]

Been putting off rewatching the game until now. Talk as much shit as you want about the defense, they got Oklahoma to plenty 3rd and longs. Watch every explosive play OU had and just about every DL player is being held. 
I hate to be “blame the refs” guy but Sark has to get on the field and chew someone’s ass. Maybe he did it and I couldn’t see it on the TV feed. JFC. 

Also, the Jett Bush experiment needs to end. Our defensive depth is shit. 

[Yesh 932]

The top 7 Texas offensive plays combined for 312 yards.

[BurntOrange&White 40038]

3 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

I’m tired of the S and C argument. That isn’t the problem.

Lowest hanging fruit that can’t be proven. But since Scipio mentioned it now expect other dipshits especially from IT to push the shit narrative. Just as they’ve pushed the “qb controversy” narrative because of IT staff. 

[alphahorn 1637]

9 minutes ago, Yesh said:

The top 7 Texas offensive plays combined for 312 yards.

1 run 6 passes, correct.  

Edited October 12, 2021 by alphahorn

[gmr548 16617]

rewatching the game

[USNALonghorn 5078]

3 minutes ago, Yesh said:

The top 7 Texas offensive plays combined for 312 yards.

Would probably combine for 550 if they played our defense.

Speaking of 550, I wonder how PK would do against 2013 BYU…

[pacman 7371]

Just a random thought watching a Colts DB use the Texas shoulder charge method to tackle. Is the shoulder tackle some poor attempt to avoid targeting?

 

I don't know what d coaches are doing to teach avoidance of that penalty.

Edited October 12, 2021 by pacman

[Had Enough 2088]

Been putting off rewatching the game until now. Talk as much shit as you want about the defense, they got Oklahoma to plenty 3rd and longs. Watch every explosive play OU had and just about every DL player is being held. 
I hate to be “blame the refs” guy but Sark has to get on the field and chew someone’s ass. Maybe he did it and I couldn’t see it on the TV feed. JFC. 

Also, the Jett Bush experiment needs to end. Our defensive depth is shit. 

I know on the long Brooks run almost fumble. The hold was blatant and at the point of attack. Same on his TD run. That’s 100 yards of offense. Should have been walking 10 back each time. These are within a foot or two of the ball carrier for a minimal gain or at least changing the trajectory of the play.

I just have a hard time being critical of the defense in those cases.

[bschoolprof 6273]

1 hour ago, alphahorn said:

I can't find a good video of that last play where I can freeze the pre snap set up.  Perhaps you're correct, but the principle is the same., they created a numbers advantage by pulling and/or alignment that we never adjusted to

 I posted it upthread.

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9 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

On the game winning play for OU, what's the thinking behind having such an unbalanced defensive front? Looks like we have Sweat over the center and our edge guy outside of the tackle. The gap(s) between I guess are covered by Brockermeyer?  Seems like a bad plan given our personnel limitations. Also, seems to begging OU to run a counter right into this - which is exactly what they love to do and in fact did: easy to block down the out-leveraged lineman and outnumber us at the point of attack.  It seems like a more balanced traditional look would have helped us here.  

 

 

 

 

 

[XForce 218]

I’m rewatching the game, quick  thought. Saban convinced Travon Diggs to move from WR to CB. Riley convinced Bowman to move from WR to DB. Mostly do they can get on the field as freshman. 

Depth at DE is zero yet Sanders can’t be convinced to play defense this season? Watch the DL rotations. Bush played the entire 3rd, came out for one play. Start the 4th and Ogofu is in. First play he hits Williams(should have been a fumble). Next play he tackles Brooks. He and Sorrel were doing things. 
 

41-33 Bush and Thornton back in. I’m not watching any longer. Fuck the idiot making these rotations.
 

[jinx 2635]

1 hour ago, maninblack said:

Imagine what's behind them

The other team’s ball carrier?

[LTtxfan 49364]

 

[LTtxfan 49364]

 

[LTtxfan 49364]

 

[Duane Moore 5249]

Counter trey on offense, twists and stunts on defense. Every year they do the same thing and every year we have no answer for them. 

[Sgt Hulk 13841]

Plus side. We may not face another team as good as BlowU the rest of the way although Iowa state may run for 350. Downside. We aren’t fixing this this year 

[Codaxx 5861]

19 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

On the game winning play for OU, what's the thinking behind having such an unbalanced defensive front? Looks like we have Sweat over the center and our edge guy outside of the tackle. The gap(s) between I guess are covered by Brockermeyer?  Seems like a bad plan given our personnel limitations. Also, seems to begging OU to run a counter right into this - which is exactly what they love to do and in fact did: easy to block down the out-leveraged lineman and outnumber us at the point of attack.  It seems like a more balanced traditional look would have helped us here.  

 

 

This is a great play that shows the weakness of Overshown and LBs in general. His eyes are locked in the backfield and he is not reading the triangle. He completely misses the guard pulling. I can not imagine that has not been drilled multiple times to Overshown. That is OU's bread and butter play for years. 

 

 

[JBJ 3666]

10 hours ago, pacman said:

Just a random thought watching a Colts DB use the Texas shoulder charge method to tackle. Is the shoulder tackle some poor attempt to avoid targeting?

I don't know what d coaches are doing to teach avoidance of that penalty.

Back shoulder through runner's hips, tackle from the side or behind.

[Codaxx 5861]

34 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

 

This is a great play that shows the weakness of Overshown and LBs in general. His eyes are locked in the backfield and he is not reading the triangle. He completely misses the guard pulling. I can not imagine that has not been drilled multiple times to Overshown. That is OU's bread and butter play for years.