Hey PK -- What would you say you do here?

[SarkAfterDark 1688]

Why are we complaining about the safeties after a game where they weren’t really the issue and one of them made a huge play that essentially put the game out of reach for ISU.

They weren’t going to beat us throwing slants all day either.

[Dahobbs 17534]

9 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

Why are we complaining about the safeties after a game where they weren’t really the issue and one of them made a huge play that essentially put the game out of reach for ISU.

I wouldn't go that far. It was a safety that just watched the TE go by him on the 4th and 1. Granted, same safety that got the int. 

[Codaxx 5740]

The defense was great overall. ISU doesn’t have much to threaten Texas. If there is one play that got me riled up, it is as the slant against Watts. WR is lined up outside the numbers. Watts lines up outside shade to him. WTF!! Obviously, he gets beat on the slant.  I am starting to think they are teaching that. That is just bad football awareness 

[Frank Drebin 5638]

Is Sanborn okay?  Seems like since the blocked punt against K State he is not booming the ball like he was.  His average ended up okay tonight, but that was aided by ISU not fielding punts and letting them roll.

[Jkwellborn 6702]

Why are we complaining about the safeties after a game where they weren’t really the issue and one of them made a huge play that essentially put the game out of reach for ISU.
They weren’t going to beat us throwing slants all day either.

Looked like the WR was pretty open before Thompson finally got close and then made that pic

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

Jahdae stayed on the field a lot more yesterday....

[TwiceHorn 31475]

On 11/13/2023 at 6:46 PM, Dahobbs said:

When did Akina ever teach zone?

(Obviously loved him as a developer of talent)

Yeah if Gideon sucks at teaching zone, there may be an obvious reason for that.

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

Is Sanborn okay?  Seems like since the blocked punt against K State he is not booming the ball like he was.  His average ended up okay tonight, but that was aided by ISU not fielding punts and letting them roll.

1st punt downed at the 10 

 

Second punt downed at the 20 after a 45 yard punt

 

39 yard punt to the 10 

 

 

4th punt bad

 

He had a good night last night. I think our protections haven't been as good lately. 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

[Had Enough 2081]

You damn people. The incessant blaming is something else.

I’d suggest reasonable expectations. We’re far from perfect on the roster. I’m not sure the University of Texas has ever had the roster some of you wish we had.

We are fortunate to have Sweat and Murphy. They make it all go. But still bitching about safety play. That 4th and 1 was terrible, but that’s as much on PK. He was going for the killshot, but that’s the type of play that keeps them in the game. Don’t bring the S that tight to the LOS and ask him to not be aggressive. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t crappy play but understand why it happened.

Every game we’ve struggled it’s for varied and really different reasons. But damned if we don’t mess our drawers over our pass coverage and never think to compare to how open our receivers are every game.

[Had Enough 2081]

You damn people. The incessant blaming is something else.

I’d suggest reasonable expectations. We’re far from perfect on the roster. I’m not sure the University of Texas has ever had the roster some of you wish we had.

We are fortunate to have Sweat and Murphy. They make it all go. But still bitching about safety play. That 4th and 1 was terrible, but that’s as much on PK. He was going for the killshot, but that’s the type of play that keeps them in the game. Don’t bring the S that tight to the LOS and ask him to not be aggressive. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t crappy play but understand why it happened.

Every game we’ve struggled it’s for varied and really different reasons. But damned if we don’t mess our drawers over our pass coverage and never think to compare to how open our receivers are every game.

[Herbie Hancock 7348]

I've had enough. You can say that again!

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2732]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

I wouldn't go that far. It was a safety that just watched the TE go by him on the 4th and 1. Granted, same safety that got the int. 

I laughed as Thompson jumped in the air when the throw was 3 yards to his left.  

[Had Enough 2081]

The defense was great overall. ISU doesn’t have much to threaten Texas. If there is one play that got me riled up, it is as the slant against Watts. WR is lined up outside the numbers. Watts lines up outside shade to him. WTF!! Obviously, he gets beat on the slant.  I am starting to think they are teaching that. That is just bad football awareness 

I’d like to know our percentage breakdown of coverages. Our alignment could be to disquise coverage. Could be we feel more vulnerable outside than inside. I’ve read quite a bit about slants. Those have not been killers this year. And they weren’t last night.

[Had Enough 2081]

The defense was great overall. ISU doesn’t have much to threaten Texas. If there is one play that got me riled up, it is as the slant against Watts. WR is lined up outside the numbers. Watts lines up outside shade to him. WTF!! Obviously, he gets beat on the slant.  I am starting to think they are teaching that. That is just bad football awareness 

I’d like to know our percentage breakdown of coverages. Our alignment could be to disquise coverage. Could be we feel more vulnerable outside than inside. I’ve read quite a bit about slants. Those have not been killers this year. And they weren’t last night.

[LTtxfan 49188]

Think we saw what Sark asked for as far as more aggressive defensive playcalling last night.  

Our safeties can't hold up for long periods of time in pass coverage, so Texas brought blitzes a lot more to help out.  

[Codaxx 5740]

6 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

I’d like to know our percentage breakdown of coverages. Our alignment could be to disquise coverage. Could be we feel more vulnerable outside than inside. I’ve read quite a bit about slants. Those have not been killers this year. And they weren’t last night.

That is just bad football IQ. The football field is 53.3 yards wide. Aligning outside shade on a WR that is outside the numbers takes away the really hard throw in that 5-6 yards between the numbers and the sideline and makes you vulnerable to the easy throw in the other 47.3-48.3 yards of the field. Akina would have a heart attack watching that 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Codaxx

[bschoolprof 6254]

6 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Think we saw what Sark asked for as far as more aggressive defensive playcalling last night.  

 

Agree with this.  PK was much more aggressive in bringing pressure when we needed it and it showed.  

[Had Enough 2081]

That is just bad football IQ. The football field is 53.3 yards wide. Aligning outside shade on a WR that is outside the numbers takes away the really hard throw in that 5-6 yards between the numbers and the sideline and makes you vulnerable to the easy throw in the other 47.3-48.3 yards of the field. Akina would have a heart attack watching that 

Did it hurt us? Not really. The PI on Watts down the field kept a drive alive and led to points.

I can’t imagine our CBs are not doing as instructed. I can allow for reasons for differences in instruction. Take away the 4th and 1 TD, we allowed 9 points. I can live with that. Our 3rd down defense was again on point.

[Codaxx 5740]

7 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Did it hurt us? Not really. The PI on Watts down the field kept a drive alive and led to points.

I can’t imagine our CBs are not doing as instructed. I can allow for reasons for differences in instruction. Take away the 4th and 1 TD, we allowed 9 points. I can live with that. Our 3rd down defense was again on point.

I didn’t say it killed Texas vs ISU, but Babers said opposing offenses are completing over 70% (think it was close to 80%) on in breaking routes on the season coming into ISU game.  You think there is correlation there? Kelson and Babers were talking about this on the post game show. Babers actually said he thinks that might be what the coaches are teaching. Then him and Kelson juxtaposed that with how Akina taught leverage. I am not saying there are 0 situations to play outside leverage, but they are in the vast minority 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Codaxx

[Atticus 3973]

I think the linebackers and nickels will be able to take away more of those kinds of routes as we continue to improve our mastery and scheme fit talent-wise

[The Ace of Aces 5184]

11 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Did it hurt us? Not really. The PI on Watts down the field kept a drive alive and led to points.

I can’t imagine our CBs are not doing as instructed. I can allow for reasons for differences in instruction. Take away the 4th and 1 TD, we allowed 9 points. I can live with that. Our 3rd down defense was again on point.

Last night Ron Babers in that On Texas live reaction ranted about this and how it has to be deliberate since it goes against every stage of defensive teaching you get since middle school. Was an interesting take. 

Edit: oops I see this was posted two posts up. It helps to read before replying!

Edited November 19, 2023 by The Ace of Aces

[JBJ 3654]

^^^ You want the play that Gbenda made on the slant. Makes them increasingly dangerous to call while not opening up the sluggo.

[JBJ 3654]

We are playing cover 2 (2-Read) the majority of snaps the last few games.  I don't have a breakdown, that just an educated guess.

The way alignment is taught in the spread era is that every coverage has a default leverage and a reference point on the field.  If your WR gets too far from the reference point, you start cheating your default leverage.  For example, in cover 2 your default leverage may be outside shoulder and the reference point the top of the numbers.  If the WR is like 5 yards inside the numbers, you might shift 1 yard outside his frame and for midpoint of sideline and numbers, you might be kn the inside eye.

[Had Enough 2081]

I didn’t say it killed Texas vs ISU, but Babers said opposing offenses are completing over 70% (think it was close to 80%) on in breaking routes on the season coming into ISU game.  You think there is correlation there? Kelson and Babers were talking about this on the post game show. Babers actually said he thinks that might be what the coaches are teaching. Then him and Kelson juxtaposed that with how Akina taught leverage. I am not saying there are 0 situations to play outside leverage, but they are in the vast minority 

Things evolve. I would expect in breaking routes to be completed at a relatively high rate. What’s the average completion rate - 60-65%? Deep down the field and outside the hashes doesn’t build that up.

In just the last week, I’ve scanned probably half if not more P5 QBs and their pass distribution. I did not put it to paper but every QB attacked the middle of the field more than outside either hash. Number of attempts and completion percentage. Many of those QBs do not go to their backside from their throwing side.

As a stand alone stat, completion percentage means little to me. And if there are limited relative comparisons, then it is less so.

For QBs, crossing routes are easier throws than go routes. Middle of the field throws are easier than sideline throws. Better sight sidelines. Less air time which allows for less defensive reaction time. Receivers aren’t running away from you.

If we’re running a ton of cover 4 or cover 2 in combination, you’re not going inside leverage. If you believe your corners are more vulnerable down the field in man, I could see outside leverage given the perceived risks. If you’re trying to disguise, inside leverage may be an indicator for the offense.

[Codaxx 5740]

1 hour ago, Had Enough said:

Things evolve. I would expect in breaking routes to be completed at a relatively high rate. What’s the average completion rate - 60-65%? Deep down the field and outside the hashes doesn’t build that up.

In just the last week, I’ve scanned probably half if not more P5 QBs and their pass distribution. I did not put it to paper but every QB attacked the middle of the field more than outside either hash. Number of attempts and completion percentage. Many of those QBs do not go to their backside from their throwing side.

As a stand alone stat, completion percentage means little to me. And if there are limited relative comparisons, then it is less so.

For QBs, crossing routes are easier throws than go routes. Middle of the field throws are easier than sideline throws. Better sight sidelines. Less air time which allows for less defensive reaction time. Receivers aren’t running away from you.

If we’re running a ton of cover 4 or cover 2 in combination, you’re not going inside leverage. If you believe your corners are more vulnerable down the field in man, I could see outside leverage given the perceived risks. If you’re trying to disguise, inside leverage may be an indicator for the offense.

It’s about situational awareness. When outside WR aligns on the hash, you can align outside. Inside the numbers, you can align outside. When WRs are outside the numbers, you don’t align outside.  Your help inside is now farther away. Aligning outside only takes away a small window throw, that you want the QB to attempt. We all understand that there are exceptions like cover 2. That said you can’t be a slave to the blackboard. You have to ask yourself, why is the WR aligning wider than normal? Offenses generally have tells. Spread people out to attack the middle of the field. Use compressed formations to attack the outside. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Codaxx

[Thatguy 8699]

2 hours ago, JBJ said:

We are playing cover 2 (2-Read) the majority of snaps the last few games.  I don't have a breakdown, that just an educated guess.

The way alignment is taught in the spread era is that every coverage has a default leverage and a reference point on the field.  If your WR gets too far from the reference point, you start cheating your default leverage.  For example, in cover 2 your default leverage may be outside shoulder and the reference point the top of the numbers.  If the WR is like 5 yards inside the numbers, you might shift 1 yard outside his frame and for midpoint of sideline and numbers, you might be kn the inside eye.

I think what they are referring to is on a receiver who is outside the numbers but we are still giving inside leverage.

[DixonHur 11305]

The front 7 are playing at such a high level that it really exposes our weakness on the backend.  We only gave up 9 yards rushing, but 323 though the air at a 10 yards per clip.  That's unacceptable and needs to be addressed in the off-season.  

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

That 4th and 1 was the perfect play call at the perfect time......it happens. That's football.

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

7 hours ago, Codaxx said:

That is just bad football IQ. The football field is 53.3 yards wide. Aligning outside shade on a WR that is outside the numbers takes away the really hard throw in that 5-6 yards between the numbers and the sideline and makes you vulnerable to the easy throw in the other 47.3-48.3 yards of the field. Akina would have a heart attack watching that 

Yup....that's the bad part....alignment like that. Kelson and Babers were going on about it last night in post game. They said it's like they're being taught that....because everytime you have someone at the numbers or outside you should shade inside. Drew said he learned that from a Texas camp then went back to school and coached all the other DB's to do the same.

[Had Enough 2081]

It’s about situational awareness. When outside WR aligns on the hash, you can align outside. Inside the numbers, you can align outside. When WRs are outside the numbers, you don’t align outside.  Your help inside is now farther away. Aligning outside only takes away a small window throw, that you want the QB to attempt. We all understand that there are exceptions like cover 2. That said you can’t be a slave to the blackboard. You have to ask yourself, why is the WR aligning wider than normal? Offenses generally have tells. Spread people out to attack the middle of the field. Use compressed formations to attack the outside. 

Since you have all the answers please reach out to the coaches and inform them they are screwing up.

[Eskimohorn 5635]

Since you have all the answers please reach out to the coaches and inform them they are screwing up.

So, if posters cant share their opinions in football, what do we all talk about? Cant be all T&A, can it?

[Had Enough 2081]

So, if posters cant share their opinions in football, what do we all talk about? Cant be all T&A, can it?

Of all the assholes to single out why me?

Maybe I was just hoping he’d reach out to the coaches and see how that goes.

[LTtxfan 49188]

PK made the list...

 

[LTtxfan 49188]

Choate & PK got this guy going Saturday 🤘

 

[LTtxfan 49188]

Hope to see this continue Friday night !!!  🤘

 

[pacman 7355]

Given Tech damn near leads the nation in 4th down attempts, PK will need to maintain that success into 4th down.

[Codaxx 5740]

Pass defense is still an issue. I did a quick check on the 2nd half passing of the last 2 games (apologize if I am slightly off). Rocco Becht 12-13 for 204 yards (1 pick). Howard 18-26 230 yards (1 pick). Overall its 30- 39 (77%) with 434 yards for 11.13 yards per attempt. .

Edited November 24, 2023 by Codaxx

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

 

[Jkwellborn 6702]

Corners are playing a lot closer to the line of scrimmage. Doesn’t seem like anyone is afraid of the pass tonight.

[Elmer_Fudd 22224]

Held Tech to 88 yards passing on 36 attempts.

[Codaxx 5740]

1 hour ago, Jkwellborn said:

Corners are playing a lot closer to the line of scrimmage. Doesn’t seem like anyone is afraid of the pass tonight.

Lot more bump and run from the field side tonight (watts usually presses). It was nice. This was far and away the best the secondary looked this season. That was with Muhammad out there (who had a hell of a game). 

Edited November 25, 2023 by Codaxx

[bschoolprof 6254]

defense was fucking money tonight. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20400]

1 minute ago, bschoolprof said:

defense was fucking money tonight. 

They had no respect for the ability of the Tech receivers to burn them deep. Once that is established, a guy like Kwiatkowski is going to be holding most of the cards on most of the plays. 

[WinningIsHard 4032]

PK is a bad mother fucker! Period. We keep recruiting difference makers for him on defense and it’s going to be some amazing shit for the foreseeable future. 

[Hookem2147 21285]

Tonight was the best game/gameplan PK has had while at Texas. Loved the pressure packages he used.

[USNALonghorn 5078]

15 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Tonight was the best game/gameplan PK has had while at Texas. Loved the pressure packages he used.

I like the “release the Ant Man” package

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

41 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Lot more bump and run from the field side tonight (watts usually presses). It was nice. This was far and away the best the secondary looked this season. That was with Muhammad out there (who had a hell of a game). 

Tech's WRs are complete ass (especially without Price). This should surprise no one. I was shocked to see people saying Tech's offense was going to throw for 300+ yards on us. 

[Atticus 3973]

Tech's WRs aren't bad at all. They struggled to handle the physicality of our DBs. The most surprising play by the secondary was Jerrin Thompson picking up a WR on the boundary during a corner blitz. He was in phase, but he didn't have to defend for long. 

Tech couldn't block our front and that made it impossible for their guys to get anything going consistently.

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

4 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Tech's WRs aren't bad at all.

Their WRs are fucking awful. They don't have a single WR over 500 yards receiving this year. 

I'm not hating. We did what needed to be done but anybody that thought this passing offense was going to give us issues simply wasn't paying attention. Our 3rd string WRs would be getting reps at Texas Tech. 

[Monahorns 34]

Best game that PK's defense has played in 3 years.  They didn't miss anything strategically and didn't let up for the whole game.