TEXAS QB TALK

[Tx_2_Sc85 332]

6 hours ago, sidis said:

if anyone is ever able to coach arch to recognize that he is not entitled to 6 seconds of uninterrupted time in a perfect pocket every time he takes a snap, i believe he will be quite good.

Go watch his hs tape. Kid has been making plays out of the pocket his whole life. 

Edited October 23 by Tx_2_Sc85

[sidis 9832]

Just now, Tx_2_Sc85 said:

Go watch his hs tape. Kid has been making plays out of the pocket his whole life. 

i have no doubt that he made a lot of plays out of the pocket in high school. i have also seen him make a few this season.

however, there is no doubt whatsoever that in his limited playing time this season, his biggest area of potential improvement is implementing the well-known qb pocket internal pocket clock. he has let that clock run out and just continued to stand there waiting a conspicuous number of times and allowed for sacks as a result even against inferior teams.

i believe arch can be extremely good at qb. i actually think he played really well all things considered against msu despite not getting the credit he deserved.

that said, he's gotta learn to feel when it is time to bail as he has shown a willingness to hold the ball and put himself at risk of an explosive defensive play way too many times already. not surprising for redshirt freshman. but it's a necessary step to make.

[Had Enough 2089]

1 hour ago, sidis said:

 

however, there is no doubt whatsoever that in his limited playing time this season, his biggest area of potential improvement is implementing the well-known qb pocket internal pocket clock. he has let that clock run out and just continued to stand there waiting a conspicuous number of times and allowed for sacks as a result even against inferior teams.

i believe arch can be extremely good at qb. i actually think he played really well all things considered against msu despite not getting the credit he deserved.

Arch has an average time to throw of 2.71 seconds at average depth of target at 10.7 yards.

Last year Penix was 2.68 seconds.  At 10.7 yards.

Drake Maye at 2.79, 11.0.

Nix.  2.44 at 6.8.

McCarthy.  2.84 at 9.4.

 

There are a number of variables and ways this is broken down.  I’ve seen nothing within the numbers to indicate that Arch holds the ball too long.  I’m sure occasionally, but that can be said for most QBs.  There were comments about him not recognizing blitz versus MSU.  Now we have the veteran getting tagged by an unseen blitzer.  You can pretty much select certain plays from any QB that exhibit these same flaws.

This week there have been several posters stating the Oline didn’t play as poorly as they thought.  Point is that in real time its too difficult to see it all so perceptions can be distorted.

In the end Arch hasn’t done enough of anything to know what he’s capable of doing consistently right now.

[LTtxfan 49386]

Unexpected, but I agree with Urban

The Texas Longhorns' quarterback situation has been arguably the most fascinating in college football for over a year, and now it's getting more attention than ever.

In the second quarter of Saturday's loss to the Georgia Bulldogs, the Longhorns pulled starting Quinn Ewers in favor of Arch Manning as the offense struggled to get anything going. Manning didn't stay in the game for long, but that brief appearance was enough to raise questions about the quarterback situation as a whole.

At least, that's the case for some media members. Others like FOX Sports' Urban Meyer, who won two national championships at Florida and one at Ohio State, believe there isn't much of a controversy to speak of.

“I think these discussions are had well in advance. I mean, it’s life in the big city,” Meyer said on The Triple Option podcast. Meyer said on The Triple Option podcast. “Whether you’re a right guard, quarterback, safety, or corner, if you are not playing well in places like Texas... there’s quality people behind you. If Mark Ingram’s not playing good, you got a cat behind him, he’s going in. I would tell the quarterback the same thing and I would tell the team the same thing.”

Manning, nephew of NFL legends Peyton and Eli Manning, is easily the most famous backup quarterback in the country, so any time he sees game action is going to draw national headlines whether or not he's actually in contention for the starting job.

“The media will make it bigger than it is in the locker room, if you’re not performing well as a punter, I’m gonna take you out and put the other punter in and I explain that,” Meyer said. “Those are conversations had well before the first half of the Georgia game.

“I think that’s a bigger story for us and for Austin news stations or whatever. It is what it is.”

Ewers did improve in the second half, but it was too little, too late as the Longhorns fell 30-15 for their first loss of the season.

The Longhorns look to bounce back when they travel to face No. 25 Vanderbilt on Saturday.