I'll admit it, I'm getting a little depressed.

[MissingInAction 25204]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

From what I understand of the viewing proclivities of MAGAs, I would think that embedded ad links in interracial porn videos would be a good start.

You just know Boebert is down for the BBC.

[Mdhorn 5990]

Ray of light, my mom texted me if I knew why her and a bunch of Trumpers got booted off Facebook and other social media?  Texted back that they're a private company and can do what they want.  Also, discrimination sucks when you're the one getting discriminated.  Haven't talked much in years and this is what they care about.   

[aggie08 21555]

5 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Ray of light, my mom texted me if I knew why her and a bunch of Trumpers got booted off Facebook and other social media?  Texted back that they're a private company and can do what they want.  Also, discrimination sucks when you're the one getting discriminated.  Haven't talked much in years and this is what they care about.   

Should have told her that we're in the finding out stage of fucking around.

[Mdhorn 5990]

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Should have told her that we're in the finding out stage of fucking around.

She's in quarantine now so any more fucking around and she'll join dad's ashes.  You can't fix stupid but apparently, you can scatter it.

Edited January 29, 2021 by Mdhorn

[TexasEd 8077]

9 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I don't know man.  There weren't that many olds with walkers that stormed the Capitol.

[Bullneck 19215]

I'm pretty optimistic.  I think (no particular order):

1.  Trump's going to decline in health and his general attractiveness to people over the next couple of years.  I do not believe he'll be a viable political force by 2024.

2.  None of these mental midgets will have his attraction.  So, local wack-a-mole on Goetz and Tits/Gun woman will take place.  The GOP is going to spend some time vomiting out the poison they drank.  But they won't die but they will be weakened for a long time.  

3.  Biden's already done a ton of good things to turn this country around.  He's working on income inequity and climate change.  His people will do good for us up and down the ranks, all over the world.  Competence is "in" again.

4.  It may take a while but the FBI and Justice Dept will eventually start making examples of the violent ones.  That will calm shit down.  

5.  The rational voice of the Republican party will be Mitt Romney.  He's got his "rational, upstanding man" bona fides now, plus his base ate up the 47% speech.

6. ????

7. Profit.

[Telegraph_it 3359]

8 hours ago, Foosters said:

Most of my colleagues have been practicing attorneys for over a decade. A of their spouses have full time jobs too. Maybe 10% own. The rest are still saving for that first down payment.

Self-selecting anecdote here, but I'm 38 and almost everyone I associate with has veered far left.

How is this possible? What is the entry price of these homes your colleagues are looking to buy? 
 

[Gil Bang 26049]

10 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

To be fair I wasn't talking about some old man at 40's politics evolving as he grew into his station in life. I'm talking about the 18-25 year old who knows nothing of loss and gain, love and heartbreak, life and death. A 40 year old should be in, or close to, his prime earning years.

"Until you've loved, and lost, the way Frank has..."

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

I'm pretty optimistic.  I think (no particular order):

1.  Trump's going to decline in health and his general attractiveness to people over the next couple of years.  I do not believe he'll be a viable political force by 2024.

2.  None of these mental midgets will have his attraction.  So, local wack-a-mole on Goetz and Tits/Gun woman will take place.  The GOP is going to spend some time vomiting out the poison they drank.  But they won't die but they will be weakened for a long time.  

3.  Biden's already done a ton of good things to turn this country around.  He's working on income inequity and climate change.  His people will do good for us up and down the ranks, all over the world.  Competence is "in" again.

4.  It may take a while but the FBI and Justice Dept will eventually start making examples of the violent ones.  That will calm shit down.  

5.  The rational voice of the Republican party will be Mitt Romney.  He's got his "rational, upstanding man" bona fides now, plus his base ate up the 47% speech.

6. ????

7. Profit.

The real question for me is your #1--is Trump going to be like Rush and the evil and clogged arteries the glue holding his shell together OR is the base enamored enough and the GOP scared enough of the Trump "brand" to court the offspring. Common sense would say no to the latter, buuuut we've seen how much common sense is out there and Ivanka is a lot like her Dad. Junior doesn't really cut the mustard--he just screams bullshit artist. But Ivanka--she has bought into this wholesale and has worked at it.

#2 I disagree, the jockeying that's been occurring is ongoing, but Hawley's working the room HARD. Pompeo is actually being smart--laying low, going to hang out at the Institute and go behind the scenes. He is not going to have the same taint on him that Hawley and Cruz have. The crazy element of Boebert and Greene will still be around, but I just don't think that even the numbers that Trump pulled in will go for that kind of crazy. Plus, they're female. Most of America knows--crazy female may be exciting but it comes with some really crazy downside.

#3 Getting the pandemic to turn the corner and things opened up will do a lot for his approval which is already higher than Trump. I have concerns about landmines we do not yet know about but will accidentally discover.

#4. HaHa, yeah no. Josh Hawley is on Fox, or was, earlier this evening complaining to Laura Ingraham how Biden's team is targeting Trump supporters who are just trying to be heard. Maybe one or two will be looking at some consequences, but I'm not holding my breath. I just don't want Fox to turn them into martyrs.

#5. No comment other than this is not the Republican party anymore. Mitt is not going to prevail. I hope I'm wrong, but this is mirroring the rise of autocracy closely enough that Mitt, who won't run in 2024 I'm betting, will be sidelined or used as an example by the extremist radical GOP as what a whimpy pol looks like. Ronna has rebranded them as the party of the "working class" and while their definition of working class is about as honest as their definition of socialism, it seems to be working for them. They reframed it well. This "working class" needs lebensraum and beating minorities and those lib demtards to a pulp along with prayer in schools will give them that.

[Willfully Horn 8055]

10 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Very depressed here.  Watching all of our savings evaporate in the past 6 months hasn’t helped. 
need to move to find a job, need a job to be able to move. 

Thanks, finally the chance to use the Gritty response in the best possible way. I mean, I, too, am depressed; what rational citizen wouldn’t be? 
 

Controlled experiments can carefully change variables, and who the fuck knows what can happen without fucking around, and finding out?

May your job search be surprisingly successful.

 

Frankly, Dr Lindley Dotson’s murder is what sent me off the edge, again, yesterday. Thing is, you don’t fall, really, you hover and watch. 

And I’d been toeing the ledge, looking for terra, if not firma. Because I’d been expecting much greater support for the coup. That I was wrong, so far, is a relief that has changed my worldview, completely for the better. There’s now an opportunity to strengthen the foundation of our Constitutional Republic.

Support for the Constitution includes most of the R base. Just ask them.  We should focus on that, and substitute law for norm. 
 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

6 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

TAnd I’d been toeing the ledge, looking for terra, if not firma. Because I’d been expecting much greater support for the coup. That I was wrong, so far, is a relief that has changed my worldview, completely for the better. There’s now an opportunity to strengthen the foundation of our Constitutional Republic.

Support for the Constitution includes most of the R base. Just ask them.  We should focus on that, and substitute law for norm. 
 

 

Not to get you worried or anything, but you should call Arizona cause some of their legislature has gone full throttle X Files, call Scully and Mulder crazy with their latest bill introduced.

[Willfully Horn 8055]

2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Not to get you worried or anything, but you should call Arizona cause some of their legislature has gone full throttle X Files, call Scully and Mulder crazy with their latest bill introduced.

Fair point. My new hope is a testament to how far gone I was.

[Helobious 9467]

No te preocupes, my homies. Just try to make it through the day. If it’s out of your control what good is it to worry about it.

[StassneyHorn 6643]

Cheer up

[fattyflattie 4638]

11 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

The idea of being able to buy a house before 40 without help from parents is completely foreign to basically everyone I know, and basically everyone I know has a JD or a PHD. 

I don’t understand this.  Most of my “work friends” in my 20’s were in their first house, and many into their second house by 30.  I was one of the later ones and bought at 29, but kinda skipped the “starter house” phase and went to the second home.   Actually, more than one of them that did long intl travel stints paid cash.  Houston area, O&G, UT and aggy engineers mostly.  I obviously don’t know all of their situations, but am very close to a few of them still, and they are fiscally responsible af   Lots in savings, IRAs, 529’s, etc    None of them have a masters, a few were PEs.  

 

[Biff Tannen 45750]

3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I don’t understand this.  Most of my “work friends” in my 20’s were in their first house, and many into their second house by 30.  I was one of the later ones and bought at 29, but kinda skipped the “starter house” phase and went to the second home.   Actually, more than one of them that did long intl travel stints paid cash.  Houston area, O&G, UT and aggy engineers mostly.  I obviously don’t know all of their situations, but am very close to a few of them still, and they are fiscally responsible af   Lots in savings, IRAs, 529’s, etc    None of them have a masters, a few were PEs.  

 

Engineer is one of the few jobs out of college that can launch you into rarefied air financially in your 20s. So I’m told. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. 

[fattyflattie 4638]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

Engineer is one of the few jobs out of college that can launch you into rarefied air financially in your 20s. So I’m told. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. 

Even getting a job that’s traditionally held by engineers, like I did.  The mix was about 90% engineer, 10% construction/other. But I was fortunate and worked hard to hold on long enough to get established.  Would have been much easier had I been smart enough to get an engineering degree from a good school.  And it definitely limited my ability to work for one of the majors, but I stayed long enough to squeeze my way into a consulting/contracting role about 10 years in, which was the goal.

[BrickHorn 18290]

11 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

The idea of being able to buy a house before 40 without help from parents is completely foreign to basically everyone I know, and basically everyone I know has a JD or a PHD. 

If you’re feeling depressed about that, just remember the old saying:

”I cried because I had no house, until I met a man who had no feet. Which is arguably worse than having no house, depending on your perspective.”

[Js1 85602]

31 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Engineer is one of the few jobs out of college that can launch you into rarefied air financially in your 20s. So I’m told. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. 

Two of my friends who own houses in their early 30s are petroleum engineers who graduated in 2011. The O&G firms were still going strong, dropping fat bonuses and spending like drunken sailors. The era of maroon 5 and rascal flatts being played at Houston O&G Christmas parties 

One was immediately sent to midland, bought a house and flipped it in 2013 for triple what he paid before the crash when the O&G guys out there were sleeping in man camps because the demand was so crazy and the housing supply so low. 

[Hagbard Celine 10936]

the biggest downer is the lack of accountability for the big lie krakens.

cruz and hawley should be charged with sedition, arrested, and tried.  guntits and marjorie should be impeached and censored.

it appears none of this is going to happen.

if there were any consequences for the big lie krakens i think everyone in this thread would feel significantly better.

[Superhero 8845]

Disturbing article about GOP politicians telling their voters to fuck off.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/536685-on-the-trail-gop-divided-over-growing-anti-democratic-drift-in-party

Jon Fetterman needs to body slam this dipshit

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In Pennsylvania, state Sen. Cris Dush (R) introduced a resolution declaring his state’s presidential election unlawful and void and the results invalid. Dush’s legislation would have revoked the certification of presidential electors pledged to President Biden and replaced them with a slate elected by the Republican-controlled General Assembly.

Fucking Arizona...

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In Arizona, state Rep. Shawnna Bolick (R) introduced a bill last week that would allow the state legislature to decertify the results of a presidential election if they disagree with the certification issued by the secretary of state.

Floriduh. Punishing people who already did their time. This won't lead to recidivism at all.

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In November, 61 percent of Florida voters approved a constitutional amendment that would raise the minimum wage from $8.56 an hour to $15 an hour by 2026. This week, state Sen. Jeff Brandes (R) introduced legislation to modify that amendment, allowing employers to pay sub-minimum wages to workers who are under 21, workers previously convicted of a felony and workers in undefined “other hard-to-hire” categories.

Home of biker rallies and dipshit govenors.

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54 percent of South Dakota voters approved a constitutional amendment allowing the legalization of marijuana for recreational purposes. Gov. Kristi Noem (R) has ordered the South Dakota Highway Patrol to sue to overturn the amendment after Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg (R) refused to intervene.

 

This is fucking amazing... officials who don't like the election results are actively trying to overturn them. Shenanigans like this needs to be put on blast during the next election cycle.

[UTDD 362]

Out of all the people I know under 30 that actually own a home, I would say more than half are doing something very social media oriented or independent creative type work (Twitch/Youtube/Instagram/Patreon) on their own.  I can't even argue with those that don't see the value of going 100k+ in debt for a degree with poor income prospects.  A few of the others just got good degrees (engineers, video game dev related work) that allowed pretty good incomes fairly early if you got a little lucky.    

[Biff Tannen 45750]

5 hours ago, Superhero said:

Disturbing article about GOP politicians telling their voters to fuck off.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/536685-on-the-trail-gop-divided-over-growing-anti-democratic-drift-in-party

Jon Fetterman needs to body slam this dipshit

Fucking Arizona...

Floriduh. Punishing people who already did their time. This won't lead to recidivism at all.

Home of biker rallies and dipshit govenors.

 

This is fucking amazing... officials who don't like the election results are actively trying to overturn them. Shenanigans like this needs to be put on blast during the next election cycle.

It's an anti-democratic party.  They have no interest in the system of government we've created over the past 200 years and should be left out of the process.

[tantric superman 4668]

My 30ish kid and spouse just moved into their second house (the first was a townhouse that she will now rent). It's a nice house.

Model:  Spouse 1 (parents paid for private education through grad school - kid is a salaried type accountant).  Spouse 2 (joined military out of high school, obtained college degree while in military, entrepreneur-style do-it-yourself real estate kid).

Model - no college debt.

Got to figure college debt out.

[TexasEd 8077]

1 minute ago, tantric superman said:

My 30ish kid and spouse just moved into their second house (the first was a townhouse that she will now rent). It's a nice house.

Model:  Spouse 1 (parents paid for private education through grad school - kid is a salaried type accountant).  Spouse 2 (joined military out of high school, obtained college degree while in military, entrepreneur-style do-it-yourself real estate kid).

Model - no college debt.

Got to figure college debt out.

sounds like the second one did.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

we picked up and left the country the day after the election. i didn't really watch the election results as i just didn't have any energy left in me at that point (i started watching expecting a landslide and seeing how close it was in swing states just made me want to puke)...the next morning i woke up to find my House rep was Tits and Guns and that 74.2 million americans wanted more of Trump. it was just all very surreal and depressing. we went south, the plan was to sit out a few months, unplug from the simulation, and just recalibrate things and focus on stuff that was more important to us. 

it was the best thing we've ever done, and now we've decided to stay. i know that isn't in the cards for most, and we're really fortunate to be able to do it. but just getting away from all of the constant nonsense and the daily beatdown of bad/angering news and isolation got us out of the funk. i don't know what y'all can do to be more intentional in that decision to unplug, but i do think there is a lot of value in trying for the sake of your mental health and sanity. 

hell, probably all of us getting off this board would be helpful.

[Js1 85602]

49 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

It's an anti-democratic party.  They have no interest in the system of government we've created over the past 200 years and should be left out of the process.

Yep.  It wasn't a joke when it was said if they can't win, they'd abandon democracy instead of conservatism.