(2) Baylor at (6)Texas 6pm on ESPN

[Js1 85310]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Shaka back. Players all back. Good game till around 9 minutes left then Baylor just ran away with it with glimpses of hope here and there. 

First 10 and last 10 min were meh. Middle 20 were pretty good for us! 

[shadow_operative 15932]

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

@shadow_operative tomorrow at 930ish you down to come break down the game for the pod? 

lousy let me know how to hook up with you guys (pause) and i'm there.

Edited February 3, 2021 by shadow_operative

[MotownHorn 1761]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

We would have been better off if they tossed him for the tech. He hasn’t looked interested since. 

The game was too big for Brown tonight imo. He played awful the whole time.

[markstanco 12574]

They don't suck.

[dcar00 14181]

39 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Totally did. Whipped his head, stood staring at the guy on the ground sliding with him until he got up. If he turns and goes back up court without the stare down he's fine.

 

all he had to do was do the same thing but turn towards his own bench.  it was a T and I would expect it to be called the other way

 We need to actually do something beyond the NIT...sigh.  no one buys Texas being a tough guy in basketball. 

[dcar00 14181]

2 minutes ago, markstanco said:

They don't suck.
 

can we please please get a new coach...

[shadow_operative 15932]

Brown still needs that "HS alpha male" coached out of him. pretty much any time he gets the ball his thought process goes "can i shoot a three? no? ok then i'll just drive full steam ahead towards the rim without any real plan." only instead of a couple of 5'10" white kids named Tanner and Kyle standing in his way it's some 21 or 22 year old, 6'9" Marcellus Wallace looking motherfucker who can swat his shit for breakfast. he just needs to learn to slow down and let the game come to him. 

[dcar00 14181]

9 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

The game was too big for Brown tonight imo. He played awful the whole time.

it was too big for everyone not named AJ and that includes our coach.

[Ghost of Shag 2608]

You guys can keep whining about Shaka but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

[dcar00 14181]

2 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

You guys can keep whining about Shaka but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

next year is gonna be U-G-L-Y.

[Ghost of Shag 2608]

Baylor shot 52.4% from three.

They've only shot that well against two other teams: ULala and Kansas State. But they’ve had many games in the mid -40% range. 

If they’re going to shoot like that, we’re not going to win.

And yes, next year will likely be ugly.

[Js1 85310]

They were almost as good last year. We could easily be talking about them going back to back if COVID hadn’t happened 

Edited February 3, 2021 by Js1

[SimonBolivar 10958]

9 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I honestly have no idea how Baylor is some kind of historic juggernaut this year, but I also saw on the ticker that they’re the first team since 1991 UNLV to start a season with 17 straight wins of at least 8 points.  When we think of the greatest college teams of all time, we obviously include Wooden’s best teams at UCLA, the 1970s Bob Knight Indiana squad that was the last to go undefeated, the Larry Johnson era UNLV teams that dominated everyone, and ... Baylor.  Do they even have an NBA 1st rounder? 

I'd say Butler is probably playing his way into a 1st round spot, but we'll see there. JTT and Matthew Mayer have potential to be up there but both have a lot of growing to do. Mostly it's a stacked roster of college players like Vital, Teague, and Mitchell getting it done.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

Butler, Mitchell, and eventually Mayer will all spend time in the league. And then both Teague and Flagler will have long overseas careers. And that doesn't even count guys like LJ Cryer who is a freshman who doesn't even play but will eventually be an all-big 12 player. 

[Blotto 23497]

I remember when the narrative was that Drew was a horrible coach. Thats the narrative about Shaka today. Look out 2028!

[hobbes2702 13032]

2 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Totally did. Whipped his head, stood staring at the guy on the ground sliding with him until he got up. If he turns and goes back up court without the stare down he's fine.

 

 

[Trey3216 15346]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Baylor shot 52.4% from three.

They've only shot that well against two other teams: ULala and Kansas State. But they’ve had many games in the mid -40% range. 

If they’re going to shoot like that, we’re not going to win.

And yes, next year will likely be ugly.

Texas shot almost 55% from the field, outrebounded Baylor, and had 10 more free throws...and lost by 14.  

[shadow_operative 15932]

Baylor's ability to score in spurts repeatedly throughout the game is something that i've seem very few teams be able to do throughout the years. 

[dcar00 14181]

I really really want to move on from Smart.  he is never going to win the big12 and I don't ever see him getting past the second round in the tournament.  If he can't do it this year its never happening.  he had 6 years to build to this(even though he should have been shitcanned 2 years ago) and he's gonna piss it all away.  he's just not a very good coach.  maybe next year CDC can pull the trigger when we are back in the bottom half of the big 12 again.

[gsoda3 3254]

Baylor's the best ncaa team I've seen at playing the modern nba game.

[Js1 85310]

18 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I really really want to move on from Smart.  he is never going to win the big12 and I don't ever see him getting past the second round in the tournament.  If he can't do it this year its never happening.  he had 6 years to build to this(even though he should have been shitcanned 2 years ago) and he's gonna piss it all away.  he's just not a very good coach.  maybe next year CDC can pull the trigger when we are back in the bottom half of the big 12 again.

Wow I had no idea you thought this. You should mention it many more times 

[SKA the boss 729]

Baylor is just good. They have few holes. Stingy defense that transitions to points. Amazing guard shooting. Unselfish. Well coached.
We hung as best we could. We are not in that league, but we can still run deep.

[shadow_operative 15932]

this loss wouldn't even bother me if we had handled business against TTU and OU. losing three in a row like this at home just can't stand though. 

Edited February 3, 2021 by shadow_operative

[shadow_operative 15932]

re: GB III's poster, for the "they always call that a tech" crowd, I present to you the "No They Don't" highlight package:

 

 

 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

6 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

Baylor's the best ncaa team I've seen at playing the modern nba game.

Yeah all the people applauding Baylor for running a dynamic offensive system don't know what they are watching. They essentially run the exact same movements we do only their players don't dribble the shit out of the ball every time they get it. They essentially make 2, or a max 3 dribbles, and then move the ball unless they're at the end of the shot clock. They don't ever miss an open man on a cut to the basket. Then they also move the ball with tremendous speed and precision and are purposeful in their movements, but there isn't anything exotic or extremely imaginative about their offensive system. They just execute at an extraordinarily high and consistent level . 

[Post Oak 20209]

5 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

re: GB III's poster, for the "they always call that a tech" crowd, I present to you the "No They Don't" highlight package:

 

 

 

It was such a stupid tech.

[Rockethorn1978 6077]

49 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Yeah all the people applauding Baylor for running a dynamic offensive system don't know what they are watching. They essentially run the exact same movements we do only their players don't dribble the shit out of the ball every time they get it. They essentially make 2, or a max 3 dribbles, and then move the ball unless they're at the end of the shot clock. They don't ever miss an open man on a cut to the basket. Then they also move the ball with tremendous speed and precision and are purposeful in their movements, but there isn't anything exotic or extremely imaginative about their offensive system. They just execute at an extraordinarily high and consistent level . 

Agree and drew also recruits guys with a high IQ and guys that can shoot at every position. Shaka loves the super athlete that is raw and I guess thinks can coach them into a shooter. Which he can’t.

[Steamboat1874 4056]

Baylor would crush Gonzaga by the way.

They are clearly the best team in the country that I have seen.

[Ghost of Shag 2608]

9 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Texas shot almost 55% from the field, outrebounded Baylor, and had 10 more free throws...and lost by 14.  

Well when you put it that way.

Damn.

[Wally Pryor 5261]

9 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Butler, Mitchell, and eventually Mayer will all spend time in the league. And then both Teague and Flagler will have long overseas careers. And that doesn't even count guys like LJ Cryer who is a freshman who doesn't even play but will eventually be an all-big 12 player. 

Meyer has work to do.  I like Flagler long term, feels like he has more upside.   We'll see. 

What's not arguable is the level of talent on the team and, most importantly, how well that talent plays together.  Great chemistry and cohesion. 

[Post Oak 20209]

Drew seems to have hit the sweet spot in roster construction where he's getting good players but not one and done or two and done.  Plus he's redshirting guys.  Plus it builds culture.

Imo that's the sweet spot for fielding consistently good to great CBB teams in this era.

It looks like he's got a good class signed with one 5 star and two 4s. Well see how long he can maintain this practice if he starts getting better talent.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

43 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Agree and drew also recruits guys with a high IQ and guys that can shoot at every position. Shaka loves the super athlete that is raw and I guess thinks can coach them into a shooter. Which he can’t.

I don't understand this critique. Vital and Tchatchoua can't shoot for shit and are no different than the supposed athletes with no skill that we recruit. And nobody can legitimately describe Andrew Jones, Coleman, Ramey as athletes who can't shoot. So where exactly does this narrative come from and who does it apply to?

 Butler, Teague, and Mitchell have gotten progressively better as shooters over the years, but none of them were noteworthy in that department until this year.  Even last season none of them shot as well as even Matt Coleman or Andrew Jones from 3. They are having an absolute banner shooting season this year, but this idea that Drew is recruiting a different category of player than we are isn't true. If anything he follows pretty much the same formula as us, but redshirts and develops them into a cohesive unit much better. Of course the fact that he's in year 18 at Baylor and year 19 as a coach may have something to do with that. 

Edited February 3, 2021 by Catdaddyhorn

[NeverMarryAStripper 21893]

10 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Texas shot almost 55% from the field, outrebounded Baylor, and had 10 more free throws...and lost by 14.  

But Texas made fewer free throws than Baylor, in typical UT fashion

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

10 hours ago, Blotto said:

I remember when the narrative was that Drew was a horrible coach. Thats the narrative about Shaka today. Look out 2028!

I always thought the narrative was just that Drew was just the latest in a long line of amoral, dirty Baylor coaches.  He's an improvement, though - no players have murdered each other.  Or he's much better at covering it up.  Either way.

[jw4381 3072]

Technical posterization was the #1 highlight just now on espn. Should not have been called as it was.

[MotownHorn 1761]

Baylor's really really good

Our team has played like 2 games in 3 weeks, had the coach out for a week, and multiple guys out for most of that time.

Y'all don't need to whine like little babies because they beat us last night. We have a good team that can make a deep run if they get it together and improve from here on out. Let's hope they do.

[jeevsie 3733]

Gotta say, I was most impressed with Baylor's defense. Always in front and rarely out of position - GBIII's dunk notwithstanding.

[VirginiaLonghorn 4771]

4 hours ago, MotownHorn said:

Baylor's really really good

Our team has played like 2 games in 3 weeks, had the coach out for a week, and multiple guys out for most of that time.

Y'all don't need to whine like little babies because they beat us last night. We have a good team that can make a deep run if they get it together and improve from here on out. Let's hope they do.

How could you tell Shaka missed a week?

[shadow_operative 15932]

22 hours ago, immamac said:

@shadow_operative tomorrow at 930ish you down to come break down the game for the pod? 

so how does this work? do you just send me a link or something? and is it video, or over the phone or something? 

[Revolution512 1487]

10 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

But Texas made fewer free throws than Baylor, in typical UT fashion

Damn you Barnes for not hiring that free throw coach!!!

[Steamboat1874 4056]

The worst free throw shooter by far is Sims.

if I am the opponent I foul him every time he gets the ball in the paint.

 

[shadow_operative 15932]

7 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

The worst free throw shooter by far is Sims.

if I am the opponent I foul him every time he gets the ball in the paint.

 

TTU used this tactic effectively in their comeback win against us. 

[deter 314]

Old baldy gave a double tech in the ou-isu game today. He needs to be checked.

[shadow_operative 15932]

On 2/3/2021 at 1:40 AM, shadow_operative said:

re: GB III's poster, for the "they always call that a tech" crowd, I present to you the "No They Don't" highlight package:

 

 

 

turns around, screams at defender, flexes on him, no T:

 

hangs on the rim, stares down the defender, possibly barks at him, no T:

 

every time i look up i see someone doing something more egregious than GB III did with no call. the crowd who were upset with GB III and insisting that it was a stupid play that always gets a T can go ahead and eat crow now.