Buttigieg/Secretary of Transportation Thread

[Gil Bang 26020]

 

 

[TheStoicPaisano 9939]

Other than Cali, it dovetails recruiting hotbeds. Hice, Clyde, MTG, Herschel in GA. Florida is complete GOP batshittery outside of Little Havana.

[Biff Tannen 45741]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

 

 

[troph 24906]

1 hour ago, UpperWestside said:

I won’t put a ceiling on him. So much of his future in the political realm will be determined in the next 5-7 years though. If he were married to a woman he would have a cakewalk to the presidency. If society ever moves past that ridiculous hang-up about who he loves then the top office in the land is within his reach. It’s sad that that still can determine his future and the impact he can make on this country. 

Now add trans to it and imagine when that will be ok in the next 100 years, hint it won’t. I had political aspirations not that long ago, it was beyond a stupid idea.  Yeah 2022. We are barely ok with women holding office. Gays in safe districts or states have a chance for sure.  But most of the time it’s a non starter especially for something like POTUS. 

Edited July 19, 2022 by troph

[Neonmoon 38130]

157 Republicans voted against

 I mean, holy fuck. 

[RDCanecutter 26473]

1 hour ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Other than Cali, it dovetails recruiting hotbeds. Hice, Clyde, MTG, Herschel in GA. Florida is complete GOP batshittery outside of Little Havana.

We got Wide Receivers, Pulpwood, and Crazy.

[bolverk 29718]

4 hours ago, Gap03 said:

Jesus Christ, Texas ... so many fucking embarassments.

 

1 hour ago, UpperWestside said:

I have stopped telling people I grew up in Texas. That right there is a good reason why. 

 

Going by the scorecard below, a quarter of our problem is aggy. But half of these national embarrassments aren't actually from Texas. Seems we're a crazy magnet.

2 hours ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Was thinking about it this morning... who has us beat? Georgia (MTG) and NC (Cawthorn) have bad ones, but it seems to be "ones." Meanwhile, we have:

Chip Roy - NOT FROM TEXAS
Troy Nehls - NOT FROM TEXAS
Ronny Jackson - aggy
Louie Gohmert - aggy
Ted Cruz - NOT FROM TEXAS

Drop down just a level and you have the guys who aren't as big a clowns, but do some real damage:

Abbott - UT (no explanation than evil with a chip on his shoulder)
Patrick - NOT FROM TEXAS
Paxton - NOT FROM TEXAS

I've left Cornyn (Houston/Japan/Trinity/UVA) off as I can't quite place where he genuinely is at. 

 

[Guest]

Good god I wish we had some accountability about some of these votes instead of gerrymandered garbage where if you have the right letter by your name, it doesn't matter what you do.

Saw that Buttigieg tweet and took a look. With 157 voting against, it had to be because there was other stuff stuck in there, right? Nope. It's like a page long.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404/text

One. ONE! Texas Republican voted for it -- Tony Gonzalez. Every single other one -- including Roy (represents a huge swatch of south Austin, downtown and West Campus!), Nehls, McCaul, Gohmert, Sessions (who also represents part of Austin!) and Crenshaw -- said no.

 

[Gil Bang 26020]

a reasonable discussion...the kind that we need more of

 

 

 

[troph 24906]

9 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Good god I wish we had some accountability about some of these votes instead of gerrymandered garbage where if you have the right letter by your name, it doesn't matter what you do.

Saw that Buttigieg tweet and took a look. With 157 voting against, it had to be because there was other stuff stuck in there, right? Nope. It's like a page long.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404/text

One. ONE! Texas Republican voted for it -- Tony Gonzalez. Every single other one -- including Roy (represents a huge swatch of south Austin, downtown and West Campus!), Nehls, McCaul, Gohmert, Sessions (who also represents part of Austin!) and Crenshaw -- said no.

 

Fuck everyone of them and everyone that votes for them. Fuck them straight to hell. 

[troph 24906]

8 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

a reasonable discussion...the kind that we need more of

 

 

 

No doubt he’s on top of his game, I’d have his children. 

[mchookem 16386]

me too, and he ain't even on my team 🤣

 

Edited July 20, 2022 by mchookem

[shakahorn 1645]

2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Just can't let them off the hook.

[atomheartbevo 89799]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

157 Republicans voted against

 I mean, holy fuck. 

 

[B00M 6463]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

a reasonable discussion...the kind that we need more of

 

 

 

He had an exchange with one of the Rs where the R kept comparing charging EVs to like 20 refrigerators or multiple AC units. Again Pete came off well despite the R bringing up valid concerns about our grid.

I liked Pete during the debates and i like him more now. 

That said, sorta off topic, if your concern is the health of the planet, get a hybrid. The long range EVs need to go like 400k miles before they make up for the CO2 required to build them.

 

[RDCanecutter 26473]

2 hours ago, bolverk said:

Going by the scorecard below, a quarter of our problem is aggy. But half of these national embarrassments aren't actually from Texas. Seems we're a crazy magnet.

I mean, I enjoyed all the non-Aggy parts of my stays.

[bolverk 29718]

5 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I mean, I enjoyed all the non-Aggy parts of my stays.

Maybe should've specified on the flavor of crazy. Some crazy is fun (and should be embraced); some is downright malignant.

[troph 24906]

55 minutes ago, B00M said:

He had an exchange with one of the Rs where the R kept comparing charging EVs to like 20 refrigerators or multiple AC units. Again Pete came off well despite the R bringing up valid concerns about our grid.

I liked Pete during the debates and i like him more now. 

That said, sorta off topic, if your concern is the health of the planet, get a hybrid. The long range EVs need to go like 400k miles before they make up for the CO2 required to build them.

 

And for hybrids? How long to recoup the carbon cost of building a hybrid and running its ICE? Serious question. 

[Biff Tannen 45741]

1 minute ago, troph said:

And for hybrids? How long to recoup the carbon cost of building a hybrid and running its ICE? Serious question. 

Sigh, I purposely ignored that part of his post. It’s just bait and should go in a different thread if you really want to engage it. 

[troph 24906]

I’ll take your shoulds under advisement. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

3 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

a reasonable discussion...the kind that we need more of

 

 

 

what a competent individual.  would make an amazing president 

[Vegas64 677]

47 minutes ago, ONE YARD said:

what a competent individual.  would make an amazing president 

I think if Pete keeps getting exposure like this and just does his thing, he is going to have a glow-up between now and 2024 when people are going to wake up and say "Why don't we vote for the young, smart, and articulate guy" versus the old guy who has a speech impediment that get's taken advantage of as senility, when it's not.

[B00M 6463]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Sigh, I purposely ignored that part of his post. It’s just bait and should go in a different thread if you really want to engage it. 

Please just question me next time. I've got a decade+ of proof that I'm not a troll, sometimes I'm just a dumbass. I'm here for the differing opinions. Upon reviewing the source of my claim, the rebuttals, etc, it is definitely suspect. Time permitting, over the next few days I'll dig into this and try to get troph the most accurate answer. One that actually shows its work and lists its assumptions.

[Hank Scorpio 17731]

Pete gives great answers but how about doing something about all the cancelled flights. Fine those fucking airlines. 

[Dnaguy 12061]

5 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Pete gives great answers but how about doing something about all the cancelled flights. Fine those fucking airlines. 

[SydneyCarton 48170]

7 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Pete gives great answers but how about doing something about all the cancelled flights. Fine those fucking airlines. 

I mean, they'll just go bankrupt and pay any fines with tax-payer bailout money. Because for some reason we can't seem to make commercial airlines work without a government bailout every 5-8 years. 

[washparkhorn 9939]

23 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean, they'll just go bankrupt and pay any fines with tax-payer bailout money.

Socialism is profitable in “Capitalist” America if one buys enough politicians. 
 

https://news.utexas.edu/2020/03/25/proposed-bailout-is-socialism-for-the-rich/
 

Edited July 20, 2022 by washparkhorn

[Vegas64 677]

Speaking of socialism for capitalist, is there a thread talking specifically about the CHIPS bill and the semiconductor money? I'd like to read the reasoned discussion, with a political angle, on that.

[elfenix 34332]

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean, they'll just go bankrupt and pay any fines with tax-payer bailout money. Because for some reason we can't seem to make commercial airlines work without a government bailout every 5-8 years. 

airlines are essentially unprofitable over the long term as an industry.  have been since their inception.  they'd gotten a good thing going for themselves between industry consolidation and managing to sell damn near every seat there for a couple decades after 9/11.  but then 2020 happened and here we are again. 

[Dutchrudder 11151]

11 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Pete gives great answers but how about doing something about all the cancelled flights. Fine those fucking airlines. 

Is cancelling flights against the law? What regulations are they breaking by doing that?

[washparkhorn 9939]

46 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Speaking of socialism for capitalist, is there a thread talking specifically about the CHIPS bill and the semiconductor money? I'd like to read the reasoned discussion, with a political angle, on that.

Intel does not care for your tone, comrade. 
 

From each according to its relative power; to each according to its lobbying power. Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010)

[Vegas64 677]

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

airlines are essentially unprofitable over the long term as an industry.  have been since their inception.  they'd gotten a good thing going for themselves between industry consolidation and managing to sell damn near every seat there for a couple decades after 9/11.  but then 2020 happened and here we are again. 

Is your post laying the ground for an argument that airlines and the airline travel industry is a public good or utility?

What is interesting is the DOJ/anti-trust fears influencing what is going on with Frontier trying to buy Spirit (and Jet Blue getting into it) and slowing or stopping M&A, if the thesis is that consolidation is good for the industry to be self-sufficient.

Edited July 20, 2022 by Vegas64

[elfenix 34332]

18 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Is your post laying the ground for an argument that airlines and the airline travel industry is a public good or utility?

not my particular intent but if you want to run with it that way i guess you could. 

the lack of long term profitability shows just how competitive the industry is, historically.  in your first year micro 'perfect competition' model you learn that firms make 0 economic profit. 

Edited July 20, 2022 by elfenix

[SydneyCarton 48170]

43 minutes ago, elfenix said:

not my particular intent but if you want to run with it that way i guess you could. 

the lack of long term profitability shows just how competitive the industry is, historically.  in your first year micro 'perfect competition' model you learn that firms make 0 economic profit. 

Name the best airlines you've ever flown on...and now note which of them were nationalized.

[Vegas64 677]

40 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Name the best airlines you've ever flown on...and now note which of them were nationalized.

Trick question; I've never flown on a good airline.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

11 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Trick question; I've never flown on a good airline.

really? Virgin was great back in the day and recently flew British Airways back from the UK and that plane was nice as shit and the flight was completely uneventful. 

[Satchel 6949]

17 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

I think if Pete keeps getting exposure like this and just does his thing, he is going to have a glow-up between now and 2024 when people are going to wake up and say "Why don't we vote for the young, smart, and articulate guy" versus the old guy who has a speech impediment that get's taken advantage of as senility, when it's not.

The minute Mayor Pete gathers steam as a seriously electable candidate, you will see homo hate unleashed from the right like nothing we’ve ever seen before.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5125]

33 minutes ago, Satchel said:

The minute Mayor Pete gathers steam as a seriously electable candidate, you will see homo hate unleashed from the right like nothing we’ve ever seen before.

Quoting for truth.  If you think the after effects of electing a black man as president are bad, you haven't seen nothing like you'll see if we elect an openly homosexual.  

[Mdhorn 5987]

9 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Quoting for truth.  If you think the after effects of electing a black man as president are bad, you haven't seen nothing like you'll see if we elect an openly homosexual.  

Especially with the don't say gay* education some will be receiving.  

*bill

[Vegas64 677]

1 hour ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Quoting for truth.  If you think the after effects of electing a black man as president are bad, you haven't seen nothing like you'll see if we elect an openly homosexual.  

You think? I think our BIPOC friends and family will be heartbroken to find out the opposite, that a white, young, smart, man who looks like he could pass as cisgender and straight, would be a lot less hated for who he is.

Of course that’s not to say the gay jokes and slurs and hateful language in Locker rooms and bar rooms won’t go to the moon.

[Gil Bang 26020]

fucker doesn't let somebody talking over him shake him even a little bit

 

 

 

[Vegas64 677]

24 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

fucker doesn't let somebody talking over him shake him even a little bit

 

 

 

It’s what we in the business call “executive presence”.

Remember he went to a finishing school (McK).

Edited July 21, 2022 by Vegas64

[Poolflood 845]

7 hours ago, elfenix said:

airlines are essentially unprofitable over the long term as an industry.  have been since their inception.  they'd gotten a good thing going for themselves between industry consolidation and managing to sell damn near every seat there for a couple decades after 9/11.  but then 2020 happened and here we are again. 

This doesn't seem realistic.   You have backup?

[Covri 6253]

38 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

It’s what we in the business call “executive presence”.

Remember he went to a finishing school (McK).

Fuck McKinsey 

[UpperWestside 6190]

51 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

It’s what we in the business call “executive presence”.

Remember he went to a finishing school (McK).

He’s what I would call a very empathetic human being that genuinely cares about the job he has. That is extremely rare to see someone in politics actually take it seriously and be a public servant. 

[Gil Bang 26020]

3 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

He’s what I would call a very empathetic human being that genuinely cares about the job he has. That is extremely rare to see someone in politics actually take it seriously and be a public servant. 

he's also a smart motherfucker.

[Gengs1 2583]

They really need to make him also head of dem communication network (if they had one) or at least train every dem person on how to talk to idiots.

look at the marvelous job he does to his opponents with style and ease

 

https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1546171983913799682?s=20&t=nBfd5FZZpVRpT21RD7YFtA 

 

[UpperWestside 6190]

4 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

he's also a smart motherfucker.

Oh exceptionally intelligent. The person that can make their point without having to yell at the top of their lungs is the person I would like to see lead this country. 
 

I have a boss right now that is just awesome. I was talking to a co-worker and the way I described our boss was he never has to tell you he’s in charge. He’s confident in who he is as a person and that rubs off on people. I see the same qualities in Buttigieg. He can lead and set the example and do so while being mild-mannered throughout.

[Gengs1 2583]

 

[Gengs1 2583]

1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

It’s what we in the business call “executive presence”.

Remember he went to a finishing school (McK).

Announcer after he finished