Texas deep freeze carnage thread

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[Updawg 2262]

They ain’t doing shit.

Moose out front should have told ya

[Biff Tannen 45561]

On 9/23/2021 at 10:41 AM, bolverk said:

I cannot, and will not, allow this to become yet another report that serves no purpose other than to gather dust on the shelf.”

Abbott:

[atomheartbevo 89502]

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On Tuesday, lawmakers on the Senate Business and Commerce Committee were frustrated that the new law allows natural gas companies to opt out of weatherization requirements if they don’t voluntarily declare themselves to be “critical infrastructure” with the state.

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The state’s largest power generation company, Vistra Corp., has begun weatherizing its infrastructure, Vistra senior vice president Amanda Frazier told senators. But the company relies heavily on buying natural gas from other companies to fuel its power plants.

“So you’re weatherizing your plants, but your fuel supply is not?” Nichols asked Frazier during Tuesday’s hearing.  

“It’s an enormous concern of ours,” Frazier said.

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They also criticized the timelines laid out by the legislation they approved earlier this year and by the rule-making process now underway at the Railroad Commission that has made weatherizing the state’s natural gas system — a key component of the power grid — a slow, frustrating task.

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Senators told Wang they want the Railroad Commission to move more quickly to require gas companies to weatherize their equipment.

“I recognize the urgency,” Wang said.

“I don’t think you do,” said state Sen. Donna Campbell, R-New Braunfels.

 

[Captainant 27515]

21 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

And yet, my gas and electricity bills are getting new fees to cover their lost profits during the freeze. 

Suuuuuper. Can't wait till the next time the state freezes and shit hits the fan again. 

[cactusflinthead 27596]

It's shit like this that makes me look at moving. Then I get a phone call from my dad and I know I have to stay and fight.

 

[freyguy 4252]

23 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

It's shit like this that makes me look at moving. Then I get a phone call from my dad and I know I have to stay and fight.

 

And by fight, you mean take it up the ass like the rest of us

[Updawg 2262]

Won’t take long for this to go cloak room but either they know something we don’t or they are already covering their their ass.

Those fuckers spent like 15 mins on the issue during the regular session. They know what’s going on but scared they fucked up

[cactusflinthead 27596]

7 minutes ago, freyguy said:

And by fight, you mean take it up the ass like the rest of us

Oh I'll throw dollars at those that give a damn. Sign my name to sternly worded letters and...pay the damn bill like everyone else.

[Guest Lobo]

You guys wouldn't know thoughtful, prudent leadership if it frost-bit you in the ass.  Our statewide officials know what they're doing.  Trust me, I'm pre-law.

[cactusflinthead 27596]

1 minute ago, Updawg said:

Won’t take long for this to go cloak room but either they know something we don’t or they are already covering their their ass.

Those fuckers spent like 15 mins on the issue during the regular session. They know what’s going on but scared they fucked up

I started one last winter in the middle of snowmaggeddon.

Too tired to give a damn at the moment.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2659]

They know exactly what they did, they expect us to believe they all missed the year 2022 in their own legislation?

Grift, gaslight, and deflect, they all got the memo. Third-world countries have nothing on us in the corruption department. And they'll get away with it.

Unless.....I really don't want a bad winter, but I really want these assholes to be held accountable by the public, just at any level FFS. This is malfeasance on a grand scale.  We all saw it coming but damn if it still isn't like turning your back to the waves just once and getting dragged under again.

[JimmyJames 12271]

The people who created the problem aren’t gonna fix it. 

[atomheartbevo 89502]

30 minutes ago, Updawg said:

either they know something we don’t or they are already covering their their ass.

If they were leaning that hard on the Railroad Commission, threatening them, yeah something is going on.

[atomheartbevo 89502]

Texas Power Grid:  We won't have another winter like we had last February, so we don't need to prepare.

Next Winter Storm:

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2659]

the "something is going on" is that they very purposely failed to do anything to require weatherization or other actions sorely needed before this winter and want to proactively be loud and blame another entity well before the shit hits the fan again? What am I missing 

[ROFL BOX 6647]

1 hour ago, freyguy said:

And by fight, you mean take it up the ass like the rest of us

[atomheartbevo 89502]

33 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

the "something is going on" is that they very purposely failed to do anything to require weatherization or other actions sorely needed before this winter and want to proactively be loud and blame another entity well before the shit hits the fan again? What am I missing 

Your avatar frighteningly matches up with this.

[elfenix 34205]

They fucking pulled an Enron on us:

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For decades, Texas’s major pipeline companies have covertly squeezed gas supplies before cold snaps and hurricanes.

In doing this, the plaintiffs argued, they have driven up the price, and then using the ensuing disaster as a cover to break existing contracts, freeing up their gas supplies to be sold for newly-soaring prices on the spot market.

“Winter Storm Uri followed this playbook,” the suit argues, “and indeed represents the most egregious example of Defendants’ manipulation and their greatest heist yet.”

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4896585-texas-gas-manipulation-lawsuit-uri/

[wildcat09 29301]

8 minutes ago, elfenix said:

They fucking pulled an Enron on us:

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4896585-texas-gas-manipulation-lawsuit-uri/

A sane society would execute the people involved.

[Pescado_Rojo 19345]

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

A sane society would execute the people involved.

and the politicians that allowed and benefited from it. 

[crash_davis 23090]

2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

A sane society would execute the people involved.

 

30 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

and the politicians that allowed and benefited from it. 

Bros, do you even Texas?

[Dendox 101]

Have no fear - the legislature already approved of the theft and will, no doubt, make sure that the law is on the side of the O&G business and NOT on the side of the consumer.

 

The facts in the article are pretty detailed and damning.  

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Through decades of company employees driving, hiking and backpacking along the nation’s pipelines, they have turned a collection of numerical waypoints and coordinates into a usable map that allows them to track the gas shipments of specific pipelines. This data, CirclesX’s court filing argues, shows that as warnings of the coming storm began in the month before Valentine’s Day 2021, the defendants began moving gas from the interstate pipeline network — which is regulated by FERC, and requires daily reports on gas flows — to the far-less-regulated Texas-only network.

As the storm grew, Energy Transfer Partners declared force majeure and broke its contracts with Houston power plants dependent on gas from the Bammel gas field — which is connected to Houston by a pipeline it owns.

“Houston was out for a week and a half, two weeks in some neighborhoods, with the biggest storage field in the state right next to it,” he said. “And the gas was flowing — but not to Houston.”

Instead, Simpson told The Hill, that CirclesX showed that after insisting the gas could not flow, Energy Transfer Partners then sold it at inflated prices to the Brazos Electric Power Cooperative in San Antonio — leaving Brazos with $2.1 billion in costs and driving it into bankruptcy.

It would seem that this could be proven pretty easy if they really do have the data.  

[Hagbard Celine 10797]

54 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

and the politicians that allowed and benefited from it. 

dude, wheels was busy protecting the grid by keeping the lights on in rona-empty office buildings while 40% of the state almost died from exposure

[Deej 76641]

2 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

dude, wheels was busy protecting the grid by keeping the lights on in rona-empty office buildings while 40% of the state almost died from exposure

He personally kept those building powered by rolling on his wheel. 

 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21784]

The same Energy Transfer Partners that just blew up a neighborhood because proper barriers are to expensive.

[RPM 26267]

are not

[Bevo 13534]

10 hours ago, Dendox said:

This data, CirclesX’s court filing argues, shows that as warnings of the coming storm began in the month before Valentine’s Day 2021, the defendants began moving gas from the interstate pipeline network

Is this even possible?

[Captainant 27515]

5 hours ago, Bevo said:

Is this even possible?

If there's a storm brewing and they make the business decision to artificially constrain supply RIGHT before the storm hits, it doesn't really matter how sure they were. Their intent was to goose profit margins under the cover of a winter storm. 

Their mistake was that they were too successful and drew too much attention to their market manipulation 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13419]

Wouldn’t shock me at all that companies involved with electrical generation understand and implement strategies to increase profits during a crisis. Why wouldn’t they do that. Lord knows that they won’t even publicly be shamed much less punished. I suppose the PUC or ERCOT could tell their CEO, behind closed doors, to be more careful about getting caught.

 

[Bevo 13534]

31 minutes ago, Captainant said:

If there's a storm brewing and they make the business decision to artificially constrain supply RIGHT before the storm hits, it doesn't really matter how sure they were. Their intent was to goose profit margins under the cover of a winter storm. 

Their mistake was that they were too successful and drew too much attention to their market manipulation 

 

It just seems strange that they could predict a storm a month out. Maybe they do it seasonally.

[Skipper 6107]

24 minutes ago, Bevo said:

 

It just seems strange that they could predict a storm a month out. Maybe they do it seasonally.

I remember for this particular storm the weather nerds were all over it for more than 2 weeks before.  They may not have predicted the extent of the event but expecting a likely cold snap 3-4 weeks out seems plausible.

[Pescado_Rojo 19345]

21 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I remember for this particular storm the weather nerds were all over it for more than 2 weeks before.  They may not have predicted the extent of the event but expecting a likely cold snap 3-4 weeks out seems plausible.

Yea, we had lots of warning for that one. I recall weather guys circling the beginning of the vortex weeks out and saying it could be the strongest in years and would likely affect us. 

[hookemATL 11616]

These fucks need the stocks and gibbets. But nothing will happen.