Bourbon

[Bert Orange 1120]

1 hour ago, Scooter Monzingo said:

Wow, big difference between where you and I live. That 15 is easily in the $2500 neighborhood. Lot B is around $1500 and 10 about $900. I have no idea what 23 goes for because I have never seen one.

Do you live in Tokyo?

[huge 3793]

I have a confession to make.  I had the Garrison Cowboy thanks to @erhine and it is good.  Sampled it against some Old Fitz 11 and it had some ass on it that the Fitz didn't.  That being said I am not planning on buying a bottle.

I did buy that Little Book 3 yesterday.  Looking forward to trying that.  GG continues to be the only place I ever find things on the shelf that I consider a real "find".

[Bigpoppapump 532]

1 hour ago, huge said:

I have a confession to make.  I had the Garrison Cowboy thanks to @erhine and it is good.  Sampled it against some Old Fitz 11 and it had some ass on it that the Fitz didn't.  That being said I am not planning on buying a bottle.

I did buy that Little Book 3 yesterday.  Looking forward to trying that.  GG continues to be the only place I ever find things on the shelf that I consider a real "find".

I like it too, just not for the price.  

[billfromlaketravis 11515]

1 hour ago, Bigpoppapump said:

I like it too, just not for the price.  

You don’t think $220 is a fair price for a 5 year old bourbon?! That’s crazy talk. 

[Errestaurants 2570]

I know a lot of you guys are high on Weller. I picked these up for $20 each. Are these pretty good? Decent price?

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[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2732]

That was my go to for years until the leeches came around.

[Chewbacca 7780]

What is secondary on WLW, ER 17 and GTS these days?  Is ER 17 in the same ballpark as the other 2?

Edited December 19, 2019 by Chewbacca

[Eggo 3977]

Went on the prowl in San Antonio today and largely struck out. Walked into one seedy liquor store with George T. Stagg for $450, Weller 12 for $130, and McKenna 10 for $85. Hard pass. 

[Bigpoppapump 532]

Saying goodnight to my 2015-03 Bookers tonight.  One glass left in it.  And for some reason my garrison brothers I was gifted has half a shot, so goodbye as well.

[USCATX 1078]

2 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

What is secondary on WLW, ER 17 and GTS these days?  Is ER 17 in the same ballpark as the other 2?

WLW is $800, GTS is $450 and ER17 is $1050.  
 

Finally found a Little Book Chapter 3 in a Twin back room today.  Also picked up a ‘19 GTS for retail that was being held for me.  Christmas is gonna be lit. 

[Okie State 3821]

I don't know how I've never seen this before.

[deft 6856]

You’re not into horror comedy?

[billfromlaketravis 11515]

5 minutes ago, Okie State said:

I don't know how I've never seen this before.
 

It reminds me of the 5 whiskey drinks they made at the Cloak Room in Austin. They’d fill up a pint glass with ice and booze.

[Okie State 3821]

Who doesn't like an Imperial Pint of Jim Beam?

[Chewbacca 7780]

Holy shit, i severely underestimated the amount of money people will pay for bourbon. Just stupid. I only bid on one bottle of Little Book 3. Everything else was beyond secondary prices.

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[Party_Taco 3741]

Found this in the wild for $85. I used to drink tequila more but almost all whisky now. Is it worth it? Does the barrel come through strong enough?

I personally think that entire collection is delicious and have a few of them on the shelf here at home. The price is high, no doubt, but not outrageous for high-end anjeo.

Recommend giving it a shot at your local watering hole before pulling the trigger.

[RaylanGivens 29]

Anyone know if Goody Goody is doing their online raffle this year? or has it passed.

[BigDHornfan 6549]

Anyone know if Goody Goody is doing their online raffle this year? or has it passed.

DFW Goody’s did theirs.
I got called yesterday. The pappys were gone, but I would’ve traded any of those anyways. I’m extremely happy.

[Eggo 3977]

Found another George T. Stagg in-store today in San Antonio. This one was going for $400. Apparently his brother owns the other store that was selling for $450. The owner explained to me that they don't have a problem not selling it because having it on the shelf provides them with reputability. Needless to say, I won't be going back to that fuck face. 

Edited December 20, 2019 by Eggo

[BigDHornfan 6549]

50 minutes ago, Eggo said:

Found another George T. Stagg in-store today in San Antonio. This one was going for $400. Apparently his brother owns the other store that was selling for $450. The owner explained to me that they don't have a problem not selling it because having it on the shelf provides them with reputability. Needless to say, I won't be going back to that fuck face. 

that's the dumbest shit I have ever heard.

[Chewbacca 7780]

How much do you fuckers spend at liquor stores to have them hold WLW and GTS for you?  I've never heard of that happening out here.

[Okie State 3821]

How much do you fuckers spend at liquor stores to have them hold WLW and GTS for you?  I've never heard of that happening out here.

More than you can afford buddy!

[Chewbacca 7780]

4 minutes ago, Okie State said:

41 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

How much do you fuckers spend at liquor stores to have them hold WLW and GTS for you?  I've never heard of that happening out here.

More than you can afford buddy!

Apparently.  Although in the last 30 days I estimate I've spent north of $1k on bourbon.  I guess I'm a small timer.

[Okie State 3821]

Apparently.  Although in the last 30 days I estimate I've spent north of $1k on bourbon.  I guess I'm a small timer.

Some guy on a local group says he's spent close to $10K since October. Based on what he posts, I believe him.

[Chewbacca 7780]

1 minute ago, Okie State said:

10 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Apparently.  Although in the last 30 days I estimate I've spent north of $1k on bourbon.  I guess I'm a small timer.

Some guy on a local group says he's spent close to $10K since October. Based on what he posts, I believe him.

I cannot fathom spending that much money on booze.  Holy shit.  I just laughed when I saw the prices people were willing to pay at that silent auction I went to last night.  $2k for Pappy 23.  $1,500 for Pappy 15.  $1,200 for ER 17.  $1,000 for WLW.  $500 for GTS.  It was just nuts.  People were bidding $150 for fucking Blanton's and $100+ for Stagg Jr.  They should have thrown some Buffalo Trace in there.  I bet they could have gotten $50+ per bottle.

[Okie State 3821]

I cannot fathom spending that much money on booze.  Holy shit.  I just laughed when I saw the prices people were willing to pay at that silent auction I went to last night.  $2k for Pappy 23.  $1,500 for Pappy 15.  $1,200 for ER 17.  $1,000 for WLW.  $500 for GTS.  It was just nuts.  People were bidding $150 for fucking Blanton's and $100+ for Stagg Jr.  They should have thrown some Buffalo Trace in there.  I bet they could have gotten $50+ per bottle.

Yeah he just buys a lot, not necessarily the $1K+ bottles. He posted yesterday he was done for the year and then posted this a few minutes ago. Picked them up in Denver I guess. He's always up there for work and seems to have bottles set aside for him all over town.

[BigDHornfan 6549]

1 hour ago, Chewbacca said:

How much do you fuckers spend at liquor stores to have them hold WLW and GTS for you?  I've never heard of that happening out here.

Just checked, and I've spent $2885 at my Goody Goody this year.  Probably half of that at Spec's.  My experience is that it's not necessarily the $ spent, but the relationship I have built with the GG manager.  He knows I don't flip shit for cash, and I take care of him with an occasional bottle.  
I get the hookup regularly at GG, occasionally at Spec's. 

Edited December 20, 2019 by BigDHornfan

[HouTex 1878]

Just checked, and I've spent $2885 at my Goody Goody this year.  Probably half of that at Spec's.  My experience is that it's not necessarily the $ spent, but the relationship I have built with the GG manager.  He knows I don't flip shit for cash, and I take care of him with an occasional bottle.  

I get the hookup regularly at GG, occasionally at Spec's. 

You have expensive piss.

Edit: NTTAWWT

[Anastasis 23475]

3 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

How much do you fuckers spend at liquor stores to have them hold WLW and GTS for you?  I've never heard of that happening out here.

First call I've ever got from Specs. They said I scored that GTS off the corporate list. I have sweet talked them into a W12 off the local list, a right place right time right attitude kinda deal. I don't really know how they run their allocations, but when I got the call, I jumped in the car and took the next conference call from the road/liquor store. Ain't about to let them figure out they called the wrong guy. 

[Anastasis 23475]

5 hours ago, BigDHornfan said:

DFW Goody’s did theirs.
I got called yesterday. The pappys were gone, but I would’ve traded any of those anyways. I’m extremely happy.

This is my unicorn.  How do you measure up the WLW? Does it really differentiate significantly from W12?

ETA: My other unicorn is OFBB, but OF1920 and OF1910 do a good enough job scratching that itch. 

Edited December 20, 2019 by Anastasis

[achooloco 1072]

1 hour ago, BigDHornfan said:

Just checked, and I've spent $2885 at my Goody Goody this year.  Probably half of that at Spec's.  My experience is that it's not necessarily the $ spent, but the relationship I have built with the GG manager.  He knows I don't flip shit for cash, and I take care of him with an occasional bottle.  
I get the hookup regularly at GG, occasionally at Spec's. 

I get the rest of that, makes sense, and seems normal/good to build a rapport with someone providing you product. But what exactly do you mean buying a bottle for a guy who works at a liquor store? Wouldn’t he get offers or discounts that most normal people wouldn’t? Not trying to be a dick, just never tried schmoozing people with the same goods they can get much easier than I can.  

or maybe I’ve been at work too long. Happy hunting y’all, vacation starts tonight and this time tomorrow I’ll be enjoying the MWND I got my bro and one or two other nice bottles of whatever I can find in the mueller area. 

['stache 21819]

3 hours ago, Okie State said:

Yeah he just buys a lot, not necessarily the $1K+ bottles. He posted yesterday he was done for the year and then posted this a few minutes ago. Picked them up in Denver I guess. He's always up there for work and seems to have bottles set aside for him all over town.

I have an unopened store pick Weller 107 in my cabinet. What could I get for it on secondary?

[ISUCyclones 216]

7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I have an unopened store pick Weller 107 in my cabinet. What could I get for it on secondary?

I've seen around 100 for most unless it's a special pick

['stache 21819]

9 minutes ago, ISUCyclones said:

I've seen around 100 for most unless it's a special pick

I paid $20 for it, so I might just consider that.

[milkman 428]

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[smwhorn 482]

34 minutes ago, milkman said:

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really want to neg this person in violation of the 10th Commandment

[smwhorn 482]

What are Surly's thoughts on Basil Hayden?  

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2732]

I keep BH stocked. Good price point and availability.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

31 minutes ago, smwhorn said:

What are Surly's thoughts on Basil Hayden?  

I always thought it started out fine, but finished weak. Seems like more of an introduction to bourbon bourbon to me.

[billfromlaketravis 11515]

1 hour ago, milkman said:

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Terrific pour, but holy s*** the ice. Please provide the name of the bar. 

[billfromlaketravis 11515]

Midwinters Night Dream Act 7 Scene 6 tonight. Just missed the heralded Scene 5. It’s still very good. 

[heso 2813]

When I got home today my wife says “I want you to open one of your Christmas presents early so you can enjoy it over the holiday”

[ERhine 1894]

Nightcap after my firm’s Christmas party last night.

[Anastasis 23475]

2 hours ago, heso said:

When I got home today my wife says “I want you to open one of your Christmas presents early so you can enjoy it over the holiday”

good wife, good life. 

[USCATX 1078]

10 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

How much do you fuckers spend at liquor stores to have them hold WLW and GTS for you?  I've never heard of that happening out here.

About $2500 in client gift $60-$80 bottles in December and maybe a grand through the year on myself will get it done.  

[BigDHornfan 6549]

I get the rest of that, makes sense, and seems normal/good to build a rapport with someone providing you product. But what exactly do you mean buying a bottle for a guy who works at a liquor store? Wouldn’t he get offers or discounts that most normal people wouldn’t? Not trying to be a dick, just never tried schmoozing people with the same goods they can get much easier than I can.  
or maybe I’ve been at work too long. Happy hunting y’all, vacation starts tonight and this time tomorrow I’ll be enjoying the MWND I got my bro and one or two other nice bottles of whatever I can find in the mueller area. 

I know what he likes and I’ve given him a bottle of that and every time he hooks me up with a few W12’s and OWA’s, I will make him a bottle of Poor Man’s Pappy with them.
Most of the bottles I get from him are heavily allocated and I know he can’t get them for himself and I will give him samples from the ones I get.
He greatly appreciates it and I get bumped to the front of the list when the holiday raffle happens.
I’ve gotten a WLW the last 2 years so it’s definitely worth what I do for him during the year.

[BigDHornfan 6549]

This is my unicorn.  How do you measure up the WLW? Does it really differentiate significantly from W12?
ETA: My other unicorn is OFBB, but OF1920 and OF1910 do a good enough job scratching that itch. 

Hands down IMO, WLW is the best bottle I’ve tasted. It’s in a different world compared to any other Weller.
And much better than any of the Pappy’s I’ve tasted.

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

On 12/19/2019 at 7:20 AM, Bert Orange said:

Do you live in Tokyo?

No, but I am retired and travel extensively. And I believe if people were being completely honest they would report similar numbers.

That said I have no doubt there are those who find great deals (through blind luck) and take advantage of them. Or perhaps they have a connection that allows them access to a bottle. Everyone else has to pony up. Jesus, If I could get it cheaper I would. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26488]

Hands down IMO, WLW is the best bottle I’ve tasted. It’s in a different world compared to any other Weller.
And much better than any of the Pappy’s I’ve tasted.

Yep, agree with this. But they are in a different universe of product so it’s not a fair comparison. WLW is both legit special and highly limited. Van Winkle products are mostly very hard to acquire.

[Bert Orange 1120]

3 hours ago, Scooter Monzingo said:

No, but I am retired and travel extensively. And I believe if people were being completely honest they would report similar numbers.

That said I have no doubt there are those who find great deals (through blind luck) and take advantage of them. Or perhaps they have a connection that allows them access to a bottle. Everyone else has to pony up. Jesus, If I could get it cheaper I would. 

Well, the numbers you quoted are significantly above the secondary market.