Bourbon

[BigDHornfan 6636]

Any idea on the age range?

They use their Rendezvous Rye, so whatever that is. Too lazy to look it up.

[Chewbacca 7830]

They use their Rendezvous Rye, so whatever that is. Too lazy to look it up.

Yeah, I'm not sure if this one. Will still buy one to try it, but we will see.

[Buzzrock 15159]

Sent from a friend. Who I hate.

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

19 minutes ago, BigDHornfan said:

They use their Rendezvous Rye, so whatever that is. Too lazy to look it up.

4-7 years. Hopefully they saved the choice stuff for MWND, so hopefully it’s closer to 6-7. 
 

Handy is usually 6 years 4 months,. 

[ISUCyclones 216]

Sent from a friend. Who I hate.

I could go for a dinner at husk and a pour about now

[Party_Taco 3904]

Uh yeah, both of those are fantastic.

[conVINCEd 21477]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

Sent from a friend. Who I hate.

That’s a badass bottle.

[Chewbacca 7830]

Sent from a friend. Who I hate.

1. I hate you.
2. Sean Brock loves bourbon. I bet that is good.
3. I need to make it to Husk one of these days.

[Hank Kingsley 21816]

Still think the Old Ezra 7 Barrel Strength is a GREAT pour.  Might be my favorite underdog bottle, especially after paying only $34ish for it. 

 

[Party_Taco 3904]

Some C518 is doing the trick tonight... love this batch!

[Spur08 385]

Got some Blantons Black for $100.

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

31 minutes ago, Spur08 said:

Got some Blantons Black for $100.

How’s the weather in Japan? 

[conVINCEd 21477]

I’m pleased to report I have a bottle of gold incoming.  Been several years since I have tasted that deliciousness.

[Spur08 385]

How’s the weather in Japan? 

So I'm hearing i overpaid?

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

2 minutes ago, Spur08 said:

4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

How’s the weather in Japan? 

So I'm hearing i overpaid?

Not sure what it costs in Japan. I thought it was only available there. 
 

[Spur08 385]

Not sure what it costs in Japan. I thought it was only available there. 
 

Bottle lottery

[huge 3831]

I had an Antique Husk pick. It was the best Antique I’ve had.

I took it over to some jerk’s house for the Kentucky Derby Party he throws and shared it with another asshole from this thread with a formidable stash. Enjoyable. Didn’t win any of my bets.

The End

[ERhine 1939]

5 minutes ago, huge said:

I had an Antique Husk pick. It was the best Antique I’ve had.

I took it over to some jerk’s house for the Kentucky Derby Party he throws and shared it with another asshole from this thread with a formidable stash. Enjoyable. Didn’t win any of my bets.

The End

I poured some 125 this weekend.  

[huge 3831]

We moved. So for now I’m taking over the top shelf of this thing while I get my bar set up situated. The rest of the detritus and hangers on will have to go in a cabinet or various garage sheds while o convince the wife that what I have is entirely reasonable compared to a good handful of you degenerates.

Cheers

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

7 hours ago, huge said:

We moved. So for now I’m taking over the top shelf of this thing while I get my bar set up situated. The rest of the detritus and hangers on will have to go in a cabinet or various garage sheds while o convince the wife that what I have is entirely reasonable compared to a good handful of you degenerates.

Cheers

I’m in the same boat. I need to move my entire collection to the new house this weekend. 

[drt 647]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I’m in the same boat. I need to move my entire collection to the new house this weekend. 

Cover of darkness is your friend...

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

22 minutes ago, drt said:

Cover of darkness is your friend...

Haha. I think the wife has an idea about the size of my collection, but no she hasn’t seen it together in one place all at once. 
 

I fully expect some side eyes. 

[henrygandorf 29230]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Haha. I think the wife has an idea about the size of my collection, but no she hasn’t seen it together in one place all at once. 
 

I fully expect some side eyes. 

i think your wife and my wife should get together and go bowling.

[otisdog 365]

Damn.....my 'local guy' just told me he sold all 6 of his EHTBP bottles to a flipper....

I was told I would get two..

[ISUCyclones 216]

My local store got bought out by liquor barn a couple months ago and has turned to shit. A flippers paradise, and I haven't gotten a single good bottle from them since. Fuck

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

7 minutes ago, otisdog said:

Damn.....my 'local guy' just told me he sold all 6 of his EHTBP bottles to a flipper....

I was told I would get two..

Pay for play is popping up everywhere now. Even at the big box stores. I'm not a fan of it. 

I think the horse is out of the barn. An already heavily regulated industry isn't set up to stop the secondary market and I'm not sure they want to. 

Edited October 20, 2020 by billfromlaketravis

[otisdog 365]

Oh, I'm willing to pay.....

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

19 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i think your wife and my wife should get together and go bowling.

Haha. I tell her over and over again. I probably only buy bourbon 1 out of 10 trips to the liquor store. But if the good stuff is in the store, I'm going to pounce and load up. 

Repeat this process for 3-4 years, and you're going to have a lot of bottles in your collection. 

Edited October 20, 2020 by billfromlaketravis

[henrygandorf 29230]

27 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Pay for play is popping up everywhere now. Even at the big box stores. I'm not a fan of it. 

I think the horse is out of the barn. An already heavily regulated industry isn't set up to stop the secondary market and I'm not sure they want to. 

we. need. someone. to. drive. to. idaho.

let's crowdsource this bitch.

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

we. need. someone. to. drive. to. idaho.

let's crowdsource this bitch.

Pay for the rental van, and a suite in Sun Valley during peak season and I am there. 

[Chewbacca 7830]

2 hours ago, otisdog said:

Damn.....my 'local guy' just told me he sold all 6 of his EHTBP bottles to a flipper....

I was told I would get two..

That's some bullshit.  What an asshole.

[Chewbacca 7830]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

we. need. someone. to. drive. to. idaho.

let's crowdsource this bitch.

What's in Idaho?

[henrygandorf 29230]

1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:

What's in Idaho?

one of the instagram accounts i follow is "overpriced bourbon" - https://www.instagram.com/overpricedbourbon/?hl=en

most of their good content comes from their "stories" not their posts.  they have pics and receipts from people finding good shit and horrible deals (obviously the horrible deals are just pics of shelves at stores trying to gouge people).

i recommend that follow for several reasons, but it gives you an idea what to look for, and what prices you should be paying (or not paying).  i realize not everyone can roll to the grocery store secret stash, so this acct helps at your local liquor store.  it's also very handy to see what's floating around at any particular time.  i noticed a lot of people finding stagg jr, so i started fishing around, and was able to snag a couple bottles.  so it's good for that too.

anyhow, sometimes they show the store or city/state that the store is in, and every time it's in idaho, someone is just making a huge score.  there was a pic of someone checking out of a store there with like 8 elmers and 6 blantons and the receipt was low-level retail price.  same with the high-end eht and weller bottles.  it just looks like the wild west, and it might be.

but of course with the shipping restrictions, someone would have to drive there and drive back (maybe fly there, rent a van, and drive back?).  on our bourbon text group, which includes several people from this thread, there have been several screenshots posted with us saying things like "let's move to idaho and live like kings!"

maybe once i get divorced.

[ERhine 1939]

Idaho has state owned stores.

[NOMAAA 1700]

1 minute ago, ERhine said:

Idaho has state owned stores.

like pennsylvania?

[drt 647]

51 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

one of the instagram accounts i follow is "overpriced bourbon" - https://www.instagram.com/overpricedbourbon/?hl=en

most of their good content comes from their "stories" not their posts.  they have pics and receipts from people finding good shit and horrible deals (obviously the horrible deals are just pics of shelves at stores trying to gouge people).

i recommend that follow for several reasons, but it gives you an idea what to look for, and what prices you should be paying (or not paying).  i realize not everyone can roll to the grocery store secret stash, so this acct helps at your local liquor store.  it's also very handy to see what's floating around at any particular time.  i noticed a lot of people finding stagg jr, so i started fishing around, and was able to snag a couple bottles.  so it's good for that too.

anyhow, sometimes they show the store or city/state that the store is in, and every time it's in idaho, someone is just making a huge score.  there was a pic of someone checking out of a store there with like 8 elmers and 6 blantons and the receipt was low-level retail price.  same with the high-end eht and weller bottles.  it just looks like the wild west, and it might be.

but of course with the shipping restrictions, someone would have to drive there and drive back (maybe fly there, rent a van, and drive back?).  on our bourbon text group, which includes several people from this thread, there have been several screenshots posted with us saying things like "let's move to idaho and live like kings!"

maybe once i get divorced.

That’s a good follow, thanks. 

[otisdog 365]

Moving to Washington soon....300 some odd miles to the border. They're going to officially be called 'fishing trips'...

[crainiac 37]

Boss came through on my birthday


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[huge 3831]

13 hours ago, crainiac said:

Boss came through on my birthday


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Crack it and let us know what's what.

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

14 hours ago, crainiac said:

Boss came through on my birthday


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I’ve listened to a couple interviews with Jim Rutledge, Cream’s master distiller. He seems like the genuine article. Good lineage from working for years at Four Roses. 
 

I’m also interested in a review crainiac. 

[ISUCyclones 216]

Cream of Kentucky sits on shelves here for a while generally, saw some the other day. I've heard the first batches were "interesting" but they have gotten better.

Looking forward to the review

[Guest]

On 10/20/2020 at 11:48 AM, billfromlaketravis said:

Pay for play is popping up everywhere now. Even at the big box stores. I'm not a fan of it. 

I think the horse is out of the barn. An already heavily regulated industry isn't set up to stop the secondary market and I'm not sure they want to. 

It still doesn't make sense why local merchants would hose their regulars.

Flipping doesn't bother me, but hoarding is bullshit.  Let everyone wet their beak a little... whether it is in a glass or the wallet.

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

41 minutes ago, slorch said:

It still doesn't make sense why local merchants would hose their regulars.

Flipping doesn't bother me, but hoarding is bullshit.  Let everyone wet their beak a little... whether it is in a glass or the wallet.

Ok with flipping. 
 

[Guest]

If retailer limits bottles to 1 per customer or whatever, why would I care what you do with it?

If you buy 6 bottles, that's bullshit, IMHO.  From a supplier perspective( I am one, but not in the booze category,)  I have my regulars, like Otisdog's story,  who always support me when I need something.  They get first dibs when I get something special/ new to market/ whatever-  those are my version of the liquor store 'regulars.'  If somebody tries to hoard my stuff( the flipper in Otisdog's scenario,) they are told to fuck off.

Not trying to start anything, just sharing my (probably fucked up) perspective.

Edited October 21, 2020 by slorch

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

17 minutes ago, slorch said:

If retailer limits bottles to 1 per customer or whatever, why would I care what you do with it?

If you buy 6 bottles, that's bullshit, IMHO.

 

Not trying to start anything, just sharing my (probably fucked up) perspective.

I agree with you on limit one per customer or at most two per customer. It’s more democratic. 
 

During the Spec’s restaurant allocation everybody would have gotten something special instead of assholes filling their carts with cases BTAC and Weller 12. 

Edited October 21, 2020 by billfromlaketravis

[Yev Kassem 1078]

23 minutes ago, slorch said:

If retailer limits bottles to 1 per customer or whatever, why would I care what you do with it?

If you buy 6 bottles, that's bullshit, IMHO.

 

Not trying to start anything, just sharing my (probably fucked up) perspective.

Even if retailers limit the public on one bottle per customer, there are others that can get whatever they want. 

For example, when Spec’s dropped their store pick of Smoke Wagon a few weeks back, it was at one location here in SA. They limited the public to one bottle per transaction, so most guys I know were able to snag one or two if they went back more than once (which I have no problem with). Yet, it was confirmed that one customer was sold FIVE CASES of the stuff. The same day the Spec’s pick dropped, the stuff flooded the secondary market and was going for $200-$225 on Texas and National pages.

There’s no doubt in my mind that these flippers are dealing kickbacks to managers at these big box stores. Until this practice is cracked down upon (which I doubt) we’ll keep seeing rare and allocated bottles hitting secondary in mass quantities. 

Edited October 21, 2020 by Yev Kassem

[Guest]

nm.

Edited October 21, 2020 by slorch

[NOMAAA 1700]

2 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

Even if retailers limit the public on one bottle per customer, there are others that can get whatever they want. 

For example, when Spec’s dropped their store pick of Smoke Wagon a few weeks back, it was at one location here in SA. They limited the public to one bottle per transaction, so most guys I know were able to snag one or two of they went back more than once (which I have no problem with). Yet, it was confirmed that one customer was sold FIVE CASES of the stuff. The same day the Spec’s pick dropped the stuff flooded the secondary market and was going for $200-$225 on Texas and National pages.

There’s no doubt in my mind that these flippers are dealing kickbacks to managers at these big box stores. Until this practice is cracked down upon (which I doubt) we’ll keep seeing rare and allocated bottles hitting secondary in mass quantities. 

this happened in fw too.  friday was one per person.  the next morning they had people in line outside at 6am and allowed it to be sold by the case.  which i found funny.

[billfromlaketravis 11879]

36 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

Even if retailers limit the public on one bottle per customer, there are others that can get whatever they want. 

For example, when Spec’s dropped their store pick of Smoke Wagon a few weeks back, it was at one location here in SA. They limited the public to one bottle per transaction, so most guys I know were able to snag one or two if they went back more than once (which I have no problem with). Yet, it was confirmed that one customer was sold FIVE CASES of the stuff. The same day the Spec’s pick dropped, the stuff flooded the secondary market and was going for $200-$225 on Texas and National pages.

There’s no doubt in my mind that these flippers are dealing kickbacks to managers at these big box stores. Until this practice is cracked down upon (which I doubt) we’ll keep seeing rare and allocated bottles hitting secondary in mass quantities. 

Again professional flippers could make more money and work less hard at a regular job. 
 

Flippers have to deal with the following: 

- Pay liquor store employees for information. 

- Kick backs to liquor store employees. Possibly resulting in the employees’ termination, loss of benefits, and criminal charges brought by their employer. 
- Carefully list their product in a coded post on Facebook. All of which are archived and can be used against the flipper later. 
- Dodge the Facebook IT police. 
- Ship their product with the proper shipping material. 
- Dodge the USPS, UPS, and FedEx police. 
- Violate interstate commerce/state laws. I doubt a prosecutor would hit a flipper with a felony charge, but they could if they wanted to. Even a misdemeanor isn’t worth it on your record. Not for bourbon. 
- And for what? To make make a quick 50 bucks. 
 

Go work at Walmart. Make $15 an hour with benefits. Take online classes for $1 through their employee education program. Get a college degree. Get a real job. Stop being a piece of shit. 
 

Edited October 21, 2020 by billfromlaketravis

[Neonmoon 38130]

24 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Again professional flippers could make more money and work less hard at a regular job. 
 

Flippers have to deal with the following: 

- Pay liquor store employees for information. 

- Kick backs to liquor store employees. Possibly resulting in the employees’ termination, loss of benefits, and criminal charges brought by their employer. 
- Carefully list their product in a coded post on Facebook. All of which are archived and can be used against the flipper later. 
- Dodge the Facebook IT police. 
- Ship their product with the proper shipping material. 
- Dodge the USPS, UPS, and FedEx police. 
- Violate interstate commerce/state laws. I doubt a prosecutor would hit a flipper with a felony charge, but they could if they wanted to. Even a misdemeanor isn’t worth it on your record. Not for bourbon. 
- And for what? To make make a quick 50 bucks. 
 

Go work at Walmart. Make $15 an hour with benefits. Take online classes for $1 through their employee education program. Get a college degree. Get a real job. Stop being a piece of shit. 
 

Quick buck vs. long haul of hard work and stability

There is a reason some choose column A and it rhymes with drugs.