Bourbon

[Herbie Hancock 7496]

You go to the wife’s grandmother’s house every year for thanksgiving, and it’s year number 15 that you stumble across the old box of liquor in the hall closet while looking for an extra cable for the tv. Lol


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A 1973 of this very bottle just fireball’d for $1800 so I think my estimation of $1500 was pretty close.

[H_Boogie 80]

A 1973 of this very bottle just fireball’d for $1800 so I think my estimation of $1500 was pretty close.

One of the national groups, I assume? I’ll have to ask a buddy that’s on all of those. I can’t keep up with more than 2-3 of the TX ones.


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[Herbie Hancock 7496]

One of the national groups, I assume? I’ll have to ask a buddy that’s on all of those. I can’t keep up with more than 2-3 of the TX ones.


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It’s a national group in the sense that it’s got guys from coast to coast, but it’s capped at 2k members. Nothing insane like the old bsm groups of 25k

[RamjetFDO 10655]

Made myself a Thanksgiving Eve Old Fashioned.

I approved.

[Buzzrock 15137]

43 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I’ll do 2:1 so long as I have Carpano Antica on hand. Otherwise closer to 3:1.

CA is the best and it’s not close. I muscled through a small bottle of Martini & Rossi once. Once. 

[RichUT 1936]

Is there a bottle of New Riff worth picking up? Seeing it everywhere here and haven’t tried it.

- Straight Rye
- SiB Rye
- SiB Bourbon
- Straight Bourbon
- Peated Backset Rye

I have a bottle of Single Barrel Rye that is outstanding. That’s my recommendation.

[ISUCyclones 216]

Is there a bottle of New Riff worth picking up? Seeing it everywhere here and haven’t tried it.

- Straight Rye
- SiB Rye
- SiB Bourbon
- Straight Bourbon
- Peated Backset Rye

Not sure if it made it to Texas but balboa rye is very good. Otherwise go with the rye and bourbon single barrels

[Party_Taco 3890]

Cool, thanks y’all - Will give those a look tomorrow.

Had some good finds today but will wait to post the entire haul from this trip.

On one stop where all I found was some extremely rare mescal, I was talking the manager up about their allocation. Seems they hold most of it until the 2nd week of December for a first-come-first-served release at retail prices. Said they have a line a couple hundred deep by the night before but most walk with bottles, and given that he has a case of Pappy waiting, I can only imagine what else is back there... one hint was a $3500 bottle of Woodford. Who knows WHAT that could be... but the first in line last year walked with a 23YO Heaven Hill.

Anyway, apparently people drive from Chicago and southern Georgia for the sale, which for a small store in Nashville seems crazy, but that’s the state of things these days...

[henrygandorf 29228]

[Party_Taco 3890]

Just, you know, Breeder’s Cup SiBs... no big deal

[henrygandorf 29228]

they're barrel picks from the railbird fest.  you can buy them through justin's house of bourbon's online partner.

did they specifically launch to buy at 10am kentucky time?  yes.

is that 7am my time?  yes.

was the wife wondering wtf was going on when i had my laptop in bed that early?  probably.

did i tell her shhh, it's a dream, go back to sleep, while the website kept crashing?  yes.

[huge 3831]

The Blantons barrel Select at a the Broadmoor is very good. From my recollection. Weird

[stork642 4511]

18 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

they're barrel picks from the railbird fest.  you can buy them through justin's house of bourbon's online partner.

did they specifically launch to buy at 10am kentucky time?  yes.

is that 7am my time?  yes.

was the wife wondering wtf was going on when i had my laptop in bed that early?  probably.

did i tell her shhh, it's a dream, go back to sleep, while the website kept crashing?  yes.

All seems perfectly reasonable to me.  

[Party_Taco 3890]

He could have said 4AM and I would have been nodding along while reading. Do what you gotta do to get the goods... it’s a got damn war out there!

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

Started today with a couple of old fashioneds with old ezra 7. Moved to eht sib. And I just finished a pour of rare breed. I'm feeling good this Thanksgiving.

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[smokeeater 10]

Made Alton Brown's Aged Egg Nog last Jan.

I used Bourbon in it, so it should qualify.

Broke it out today instead of pie, for dessert.

Most excellent.

Follow up pour is a '18 WLW.

Also most excellent

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

Poor Man Pappy remains good. 

[SMUlawUTgrad 81]

Can you remind me what the mix is for poor man’s pappy?

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

1 minute ago, SMUlawUTgrad said:

Can you remind me what the mix is for poor man’s pappy?

60%, or 450 ml Weller Antique and 40%, or 300 ml Weller 12. Let it sit for at least two weeks in a clean glass bottle with a solid cork. I let mine sit for a year and drink it on the long holiday weekends. 
 

I use a glass Pyrex measuring cup. Others use electric scales which seems unnecessarily difficult to me. 
 

There are countless other recipes/ratios out there, but this the aforementioned 60/40 is the most popular. 
 

Please note: Some will argue that Poor Man’s Pappy is actually a Weller Centennial recipe. This is asinine to me. When 95% of the bourbon community accept it as Poor Man’s Pappy, just call it that. 

[SMUlawUTgrad 81]

60%, or 450 ml Weller Antique and 40%, or 300 ml Weller 12. Let it sit for at least two weeks in a clean glass bottle with a solid cork. I let mine sit for a year and drink it on the long holiday weekends. 
 
I use a glass Pyrex measuring cup. Others use electric scales which seems unnecessarily difficult to me. 
 
There are countless other recipes/ratios out there, but this the aforementioned 60/40 is the most popular. 
 
Please note: Some will argue that Poor Man’s Pappy is actually a Weller Centennial recipe. This is asinine to me. When 95% of the bourbon community accept it as Poor Man’s Pappy, just call it that. 

Perfect. I guess I’ll just go down to Specs and pick up a couple of 12s. Shouldn’t be a problem.

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

4 minutes ago, SMUlawUTgrad said:

Perfect. I guess I’ll just go down to Specs and pick up a couple of 12s. Shouldn’t be a problem.

Haha I wish there was a viable alternative. I’m extremely low myself. After the next double batch of PMP, I’ll be down to a single handle of W12. 

[SMUlawUTgrad 81]

Is the mix really good? I mean is mixing it an improvement compared to each bottle individually or is it just a different tasty dram?

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

6 minutes ago, SMUlawUTgrad said:

Is the mix really good? I mean is mixing it an improvement compared to each bottle individually or is it just a different tasty dram?

My pallet has changed so much. It’s iffy between Weller 12 vs Poor Man’s Pappy. I’d taste both if you’re not sure. 
 

PMP is definitely better than regular Antique. 

Edited November 27, 2020 by billfromlaketravis

[Mo Horn 8939]

Picked up a Weller Special Reserve before I left town for thanksgiving. Looking forward to cracking it open when I get back home. 

[Party_Taco 3890]

Haha I wish there was a viable alternative. I’m extremely low myself. After the next double batch of PMP, I’ll be down to a single handle of W12. 

Shit, I can recall four years ago when I lost a large batch of PMP to a shitty mini-barrel I purchased on Amazon. Went down the hill, snagged a bottle of Antique and 12 for $35 a piece and went back up to make another batch... FML

Anyway, tonight was fun. Started with a 2017 Sazerac 18, moved onto this year’s Hancock, then finished with a 2017 WLW compliments of the manager who was a rockstar. She pulled out her bottle of Pappy Rye at the end and I thought we were going to crack it, but apparently promises had been made. Now back home sipping on Smokewagon and trying to forget the Cowboys exist as a thing.

[Party_Taco 3890]

My pallet has changed so much. It’s iffy between Weller 12 vs Poor Man’s Pappy. I’d taste both if you’re not sure. 
 
PMP is definitely better than regular Antique. 

Agree with that sentiment, but still prefer the 12 straight... especially if it’s vintage.

[USCATX 1087]

Thanksgiving nightcap.  I think I had 4 oz because people thought it was too hot. Whatever, man. 

[USCATX 1087]

1 hour ago, SMUlawUTgrad said:

Is the mix really good? I mean is mixing it an improvement compared to each bottle individually or is it just a different tasty dram?

I did it with 50% OWA, 40% W12 and 10% Stagg Jr and loved it.  It could possibly have beat everything up through ORVW blind.  

[stork642 4511]

11 hours ago, Party_Taco said:

Shit, I can recall four years ago when I lost a large batch of PMP to a shitty mini-barrel I purchased on Amazon. Went down the hill, snagged a bottle of Antique and 12 for $35 a piece and went back up to make another batch... FML

Anyway, tonight was fun. Started with a 2017 Sazerac 18, moved onto this year’s Hancock, then finished with a 2017 WLW compliments of the manager who was a rockstar. She pulled out her bottle of Pappy Rye at the end and I thought we were going to crack it, but apparently promises had been made. Now back home sipping on Smokewagon and trying to forget the Cowboys exist as a thing.

Along those lines I wonder what readily available handles today will be near impossible to get in four years?   Any best guesses?

[Bozo_Casanova 26874]

8 minutes ago, stork642 said:

Along those lines I wonder what readily available handles today will be near impossible to get in four years?   Any best guesses?

Probably Larceny, Wild Turkey 101 and/or Ancient Age. 

Each of those make as much sense as a Weller cult. Larceny because it's the next best available wheater, and the other two because they are dusty old brands ripe for rehabilitation. Ancient Age in particular is just begging for the Henry McKenna treatment. 

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[stork642 4511]

13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Probably Larceny, Wild Turkey 101 and/or Ancient Age. 

Each of those make as much sense as a Weller cult. Larceny because it's the next best available wheater, and the other two because they are dusty old brands ripe for rehabilitation. Ancient Age in particular is just begging for the Henry McKenna treatment. 

Thanks for the explanation.  I wasn’t sure if you were being serious at first. 

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

11 hours ago, Party_Taco said:

Shit, I can recall four years ago when I lost a large batch of PMP to a shitty mini-barrel I purchased on Amazon. Went down the hill, snagged a bottle of Antique and 12 for $35 a piece and went back up to make another batch... FML

Anyway, tonight was fun. Started with a 2017 Sazerac 18, moved onto this year’s Hancock, then finished with a 2017 WLW compliments of the manager who was a rockstar. She pulled out her bottle of Pappy Rye at the end and I thought we were going to crack it, but apparently promises had been made. Now back home sipping on Smokewagon and trying to forget the Cowboys exist as a thing.

The home barrels might be the world’s biggest scam. I’m seeing them everywhere now. Home Depot, Target, Academy. 
 

I never had one batch of anything that turned out well. They leak incessantly if you don’t fill it completely and turn the barrel a few times a day. And even then your yield is terrible. Maybe 2/3rds if you’re lucky. 
 

The nicest thing I ever put in there was Woodford Reserve Rye and the barrel ate half the bottle.

[BigDHornfan 6630]

12 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

My pallet has changed so much. It’s iffy between Weller 12 vs Poor Man’s Pappy. I’d taste both if you’re not sure. 
 

PMP is definitely better than regular Antique. 

I am the opposite.  To me, PMP is better than straight W12 but not OWA.  
I don't like W12 by itself.  Keep it on hand strictly for PMP.  
I drink the shit out of OWA's, especially picks.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20932]

On 11/25/2020 at 6:36 PM, Neonmoon said:

Staying at your moms for thanksgiving?

Two things:    1) That may be the greatest comeback in the history of Surlyhorns  2) As I stare at my pitiful single bottle of Woodford Reserve, I hate every single one of you fuckers. 

[HookEm 2509]

I have to disagree on the barrels. I have had very good success aging negronis, boulverdiers and manhattans (in that rotation). Manhattan was particularly good.

[SMUlawUTgrad 81]

Anyone else read Pappyland? Decided today’s drink is weller on the rocks with a twist.

[ISUCyclones 216]

Might be the wrong crowd for this but decided to have a celebratory fresh crack pour

[stork642 4511]

31 minutes ago, ISUCyclones said:

Might be the wrong crowd for this but decided to have a celebratory fresh crack pour

Well earned. Enjoy!

[Hank Kingsley 21798]

I've heard nothing but positive things about the Weller Full Proof. Is it really that good? Seems like a good comp would be another strong wheater like Larceny BP. How do they compare? 

I really want this bottle, but it has eluded me. 

 

[ISUCyclones 216]

I've heard nothing but positive things about the Weller Full Proof. Is it really that good? Seems like a good comp would be another strong wheater like Larceny BP. How do they compare? 
I really want this bottle, but it has eluded me. 
 

Never had the larceny BP but this was an excellent pour. Would highly recommend at retail.

[USCATX 1087]

19 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I've heard nothing but positive things about the Weller Full Proof. Is it really that good? Seems like a good comp would be another strong wheater like Larceny BP. How do they compare? 

I really want this bottle, but it has eluded me. 

 

It’s pretty damn good in store pick version, but pretty average in the standard bottling. They go for about $300 and $270 respectively so if you’re going to throw down for a bottle might as well go all the way. It’s significantly better than Larceny BP, which doesn’t suck but isn’t worth a penny over retail. If you want something in the middle grab a 7 yr Boone County Wheated single barrel.  It’s pretty much the best available barrel proof wheater that isn’t WLW and only runs $150 secondary. 

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

47 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I've heard nothing but positive things about the Weller Full Proof. Is it really that good? Seems like a good comp would be another strong wheater like Larceny BP. How do they compare? 

I really want this bottle, but it has eluded me. 

 

It’s dressed up Antique. Good, but not great. My biggest problem with Antique is the clove note. Full Proof takes care of this. 

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

I was on the fence about Old Scout Cask Strength Total Wine Store Pick. It’s pretty good. I was surprised it didn’t getting embarrassed by Poor Man’s Pappy. 
 

 

[huge 3831]

I've heard nothing but positive things about the Weller Full Proof. Is it really that good? Seems like a good comp would be another strong wheater like Larceny BP. How do they compare? 
I really want this bottle, but it has eluded me. 
 

I had it at PG before the shutdown. It’s outstanding for $50 or whatever MSRP is.

But it’s not BTAC level good.

[Party_Taco 3890]

Of all the outstanding whiskey I’ve had in Tennessee this week, tonight’s 1-2 punch may have left the most inedible impression.

Dinner at Husk tonight demanded quality, so I opened up with 2017 ER17. Just a beautiful pour, taking everything I love about ER, extending the mouthfeel and softening the backend. If I could, I would drink this every day.

After dinner I went down to the bar to see if they had anything off list, and was stunned to find this year’s Heaven Hill 27 BP sitting next to a Yellowstone from the 70’s. Was able to convince them to give me a 1oz pour for half-price and good lord what a ride... Soft yet powerful, bright yet layered with darker notes. Just a magnificent pour all the way through and I only wish it had lasted longer.

Perhaps 10-20 mins after I emptied the glass, multiple people at the table where picking up the sweetness of the most wafting through the room, which is pretty remarkable coming out of a glencairn.

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

2 hours ago, huge said:

I had it at PG before the shutdown. It’s outstanding for $50 or whatever MSRP is.

But it’s not BTAC level good.

The only BTAC addition should be Blanton’s Straight From The Barrel.

[Chewbacca 7830]

Of all the outstanding whiskey I’ve had in Tennessee this week, tonight’s 1-2 punch may have left the most inedible impression.

Dinner at Husk tonight demanded quality, so I opened up with 2017 ER17. Just a beautiful pour, taking everything I love about ER, extending the mouthfeel and softening the backend. If I could, I would drink this every day.

After dinner I went down to the bar to see if they had anything off list, and was stunned to find this year’s Heaven Hill 27 BP sitting next to a Yellowstone from the 70’s. Was able to convince them to give me a 1oz pour for half-price and good lord what a ride... Soft yet powerful, bright yet layered with darker notes. Just a magnificent pour all the way through and I only wish it had lasted longer.

Perhaps 10-20 mins after I emptied the glass, multiple people at the table where picking up the sweetness of the most wafting through the room, which is pretty remarkable coming out of a glencairn.

Sean Brock is such a bourbon hound, I'm sure that bar has even better offerings hidden away.

[Chewbacca 7830]

The only BTAC addition should be Blanton’s Straight From The Barrel.

I've only ever had GTS of the BTAC, but i have a couple bottles of SFTB at home and i would agree it's the only bourbon I've had that is on that level.

[Yev Kassem 1078]

Won a EH Taylor Barrel Proof in a store raffle yesterday. Can’t wait to try it out as I’ve heard nothing but good things. 

[billfromlaketravis 11835]

Starting my day off right. I just whipped up a double batch of Poor Man’s Pappy.