Bourbon

[Chewbacca 7727]

Found 2 bottles of RY10 in Fraser, CO. They both belong to me now. That is outstanding stuff.

[ckhorn 208]

2 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Thanks. 

In somewhat related note, any good, quick whiskey grabs near the airport in Louisville? One of my co-workers travels up there pretty regularly. 

Off the top of my head, Old Forester and Michter's are the only distilleries within the Louisville city limits. 

and Friendswood.

If you folks are looking for it at Total Wine. I don't think I have ever seen it there. Every so often they may have Buffalo Trace, but not much. Enjoying some KYO11 tonight. Getting ready for tomorrow.

 

Edited July 4, 2018 by ckhorn

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

13 minutes ago, ckhorn said:

and Friendswood.

If you folks are looking for it at Total Wine. I don't think I have ever seen it there. Every so often they may have Buffalo Trace, but not much. Enjoying some KYO11 tonight. Getting ready for tomorrow.

 

Something is going on with Total Wine and Buffalo Trace distributors. Spec's has it coming out of their ears and Total can't buy a bottle.  I've never seen Eagle Rare at Total Wine as well. 1792 and Bowman only. If Total in Houston does't have regular, ole Buffalo Trace, something is amiss. 

Pretty similar deal at Goody Goody. 

Spec's has Greater Houston in a vice grip. You're going to to have to deal with them if you live here. I guess at minimum, they don't mark it up. Just find the right guy or gal. 

I'd kill for a Twin Liquor or Deb's.

Edited July 4, 2018 by billfromlaketravis

[brown water 3761]

We have a new Twin in Kingwood. Their selection is average at best. 

[Macanudo 12922]

Twin Liquor is making in roads into Houston.   There is one on the Grand Parkway just east of 45 up north and another one just opened on Kingwood.   I haven't visited the Kingwood yet but it's kind of smallish in size from what I can see.  

[ckhorn 208]

There is more around than you guys know of. Go find an HEB and there should be Twins close. Most on the North side.

[huge 3788]

I'm pretty stocked up at the moment, but what part of town? 

I got that ER store pick at memorial and dairy ashford


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[Stros 153]

Was hooked up with a fat pour.




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[MajorMajor 109]

Was hooked up with a fat pour.




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Murica!

[FigurelliPwC 115]

Never had the Calumet Farm. How did you like it?

I thought it was decent - very little aroma or complexity, but was very clean and good finish. Not worth the price though, much better in the mid-price range.


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[Neonmoon 38127]

3 hours ago, FigurelliPwC said:

 

I thought it was decent - very little aroma or complexity, but was very clean and good finish. Not worth the price though, much better in the mid-price range.


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Bourbon World is funny right now. 

Total Wine - Calumet 12 year and IW 15 on shelf. No one buys it. Eagle Rare behind special counter if they even get it. 

Gunters - Calumet 12 year locked up in special case. Eagle Rare stacked on shelf for anyone to buy

Debs - IW 15 Locke’s up in special case along with Eagle Rare. 1792 Full Proof all over the place on shelf 

 

 

Edited July 4, 2018 by Neonmoon

[huge 3788]

As seen in the wild on Bolivar P

No clue on the last two? Anyone?

[Macanudo 12922]

I'm surprised they sell anything better than Jim Beam on Bolivar.

[Neonmoon 38127]

28 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

I'm surprised they sell anything better than Jim Beam on Bolivar.

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

4 hours ago, huge said:

As seen in the wild on Bolivar P

No clue on the last two? Anyone?

I don't anybody that likes Calumet. The age statement looks good though. 

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

I'm prepared to write a review on a Woodford Reserve Bath Proof. 

It's good, as expected for a high proof from Woodford. It's priced too darned high though. I'd say it's a buy in the $75 range, but they tacked another 50 bucks on to MSRP. 

Has anybody visited the Woodford distillery? Any unique tastings/buys available?

[NeverMarryAStripper 21780]

15 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I'm prepared to write a review on a Woodford Reserve Bath Proof. 

It's good, as expected for a high proof from Woodford. It's priced too darned high though. I'd say it's a buy in the $75 range, but they tacked another 50 bucks on to MSRP. 

Has anybody visited the Woodford distillery? Any unique tastings/buys available?

My willingness to pay that price would be dependent on whose bath it came from

[mbpcb 55]

it is available for $150 up here. insane

[Neonmoon 38127]

Finished off the RY10 tonight. 

Now my only open bottles are Weller 12, Noah’s Mill, and a EC Small Batch. Trying to thin the heard a little. (To buy more without the wife judging me)

[BigDHornfan 6522]

Finished off the RY10 tonight. 
Now my only open bottles are Weller 12, Noah’s Mill, and a EC Small Batch. Trying to thin the heard a little. (To buy more without the wife judging me)

Finished off a RY10 myself last night. Good thing I’ve got 3 more.

[ISUCyclones 216]

2 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I'm prepared to write a review on a Woodford Reserve Bath Proof. 

It's good, as expected for a high proof from Woodford. It's priced too darned high though. I'd say it's a buy in the $75 range, but they tacked another 50 bucks on to MSRP. 

Has anybody visited the Woodford distillery? Any unique tastings/buys available?

Went there a month or so ago. Fantastic drive in through farms and horse pastures and grounds are really cool. Nothing was terribly unique about the tastings or buys in the gift shop though. Definitely still worth visiting for the grounds and atmosphere. 

[BigDHornfan 6522]

I've been on a killing spree the last couple days. OWA, Blanton's,  Stagg Jr. and Baby Blue all done in the last two days.  The end of the week could see W12, EHT SiB and John J Bowman go down for the count. I really should slow down on the juice, but moderation is for pussies. Cheers gents

I like you, hell you can come over to my house and fuck my sister.

[mbpcb 55]

wow my local liquor store just posted they have KO rye batch 2 for $217

[SMUlawUTgrad 81]

My local hills has a couple bottles of EH Taylor Barrel Proof and rye and only one of the small batch. I picked up the small batch. Should I get the other two also?

[BigDHornfan 6522]

Yes! The barrel proof and rye are both outstanding

 

[Redneck Mutha 7923]

20 hours ago, thestud said:

I've been on a killing spree the last couple days. OWA, Blanton's,  Stagg Jr. and Baby Blue all done in the last two days.  The end of the week could see W12, EHT SiB and John J Bowman go down for the count. I really should slow down on the juice, but moderation is for pussies. Cheers gents

Username checks out.

[Tyler Durden 132]

1 hour ago, SMUlawUTgrad said:

My local hills has a couple bottles of EH Taylor Barrel Proof and rye and only one of the small batch. I picked up the small batch. Should I get the other two also?

Motherfuck.  Go get the barrel proof.

[Redneck Mutha 7923]

Yeah, that EHT Barrel Proof is outstanding.  

[mbpcb 55]

My local hills has a couple bottles of EH Taylor Barrel Proof and rye and only one of the small batch. I picked up the small batch. Should I get the other two also?

jfc why are you asking about the BP? ive been trying to get a bottle for over a year!!! buy them all!

[SMUlawUTgrad 81]

Shit ok. I’ll go tomorrow

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

On 7/4/2018 at 1:23 PM, Neonmoon said:

Bourbon World is funny right now. 

Total Wine - Calumet 12 year and IW 15 on shelf. No one buys it. Eagle Rare behind special counter if they even get it. 

Gunters - Calumet 12 year locked up in special case. Eagle Rare stacked on shelf for anyone to buy

Debs - IW 15 Locke’s up in special case along with Eagle Rare. 1792 Full Proof all over the place on shelf 

 

 

I'm cracking a bottle of IW Harper 15 tomorrow. I've tried it before and liked it, should be pretty good. I think it's priced OK for a 15 year at $63. 

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

23 hours ago, ISUCyclones said:

Went there a month or so ago. Fantastic drive in through farms and horse pastures and grounds are really cool. Nothing was terribly unique about the tastings or buys in the gift shop though. Definitely still worth visiting for the grounds and atmosphere. 

Thanks. I know Woodford is pretty close to Buffalo Trace, so I might as well swing by. 

[Tyler Durden 132]

Shit ok. I’ll go tomorrow

You aren’t deserving and tomorrow is my day off. Where is the honey hole. I actually finish my bottle last weekend. Need a new one. Finished my Stagg tonight too. Have the feels going on bc It was the last of my Pappy, Antique Collection Weller and don’t know if I will ever get another one of those.

[Buzzrock 14867]

Aaaaand I’m out of Blanton’s again

[Paco 1923]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I'm cracking a bottle of IW Harper 15 tomorrow. I've tried it before and liked it, should be pretty good. I think it's priced OK for a 15 year at $63. 

I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but I believe you're putting waaaaay too much stock in the age statement. Obviously age has a lot to do with the flavor and drinkability of a spirit, but it's absolutely not the final word. Master distillers and blenders have been trying to ditch the age statement for years because it's limited the products they can put out from year to year. In my (probably shitty) opinion, the only good thing that might come from this bourbon craze bullshit is that age statements might become only part of the lure of a particular bottle.

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

7 hours ago, Paco said:

I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but I believe you're putting waaaaay too much stock in the age statement. Obviously age has a lot to do with the flavor and drinkability of a spirit, but it's absolutely not the final word. Master distillers and blenders have been trying to ditch the age statement for years because it's limited the products they can put out from year to year. In my (probably shitty) opinion, the only good thing that might come from this bourbon craze bullshit is that age statements might become only part of the lure of a particular bottle.

Interesting take. I like the age statements on the bottle to have a better understanding of what I'm buying/drinking. 

I've been drinking a lot of high proofs lately, and I want something more mellow this weekend. That's why I'm going with 86 proof IW Harper 15. 

[thrillhammer 683]

I prefer the age statements too. It doesn't stop me from drinking those without one, but it seems more on the up and up in my humble opinion, so I believe it should be on there.

[Neonmoon 38127]

I can see both sides of the age statement argument. I don’t think there is a right side either. Obviously there are many great bourbons that don’t carry an age statement that are delicious. There are also many great ones that do. I know I prefer bourbons in the 10-12 range. But I don’t necessarily care if there is some younger bourbon blended in. I think one of the issues is when there is an already established great bourbon that everyone loves with an age statement (EC12) and they take it away. Yes, it gives the master distiller more freedom, etc, but you’re still taking a product that someone enjoys off the market. I guess over time the same consumer will discover they enjoy the new EC product but again, it’s like taking a toy away from a child. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26232]

I don't like age statements. I view them as the marketing mechanism causing the most distortion. We'd all have more, better whiskey at lower prices if age statements were gone and it would be better for the industry, too.  

[Bozo_Casanova 26232]

On 5/31/2018 at 1:57 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Because of the nature of bourbon’s popularity as a collector product with a huge secondary market, people have come to overvalue age statements, and the labels know that and work to meet the market.
Most bourbon peaks at 6-8 years. With significant investment and difficultly they can slow and extend the aging process to increase depth,mellow heat and excavate levels of complexity over 12, 15, even 18 years. Great masters can extend the process over 20+ years and coax real magic from what evaporation and time leave behind, but most bourbon that stays in the barrel that long is simply past its prime, and a significant minority is what you might call an interesting failure. But all three will sell, because of the age statement.
You can be the judge of which category Rhetoric falls into.

Oh, and this too. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26232]

On 5/31/2018 at 5:56 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m with you, for what it’s worth. My very favorite bourbon ever is Weller 12.

That being said, Larceny, Blantons and Woodford are all between 6-8 years. on the other hand ETL (being selected for profile rather than age) is reputed to be anywhere from 9ish to 14 years old. It’s ready when it’s ready.

I’m at war with myself. Intellectually I hate age statements because they encourage dumb consumer behavior and restrict supply of good stuff. But there are a number of excellent whiskies with age statements and I preferentially buy them, so I’m part of the problem.

I think we are at a point where there are only two categories of whiskey- abundant mass market and allocation - and which category a product winds up in is strictly an artifact of marketing strategy except at the very highest end. Otherwise there is great bourbon and cynical crap in both.
 

one more on this topic

[ISUCyclones 216]

14 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Thanks. I know Woodford is pretty close to Buffalo Trace, so I might as well swing by. 

That's what we did, hit up Buffalo trace and then swung by woodford. We didn't do the tour, we just did tasting and sat outside on the new patio area and had a cocktail. Very cool place and I bet the tour would be good too. 

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

32 minutes ago, ISUCyclones said:

That's what we did, hit up Buffalo trace and then swung by woodford. We didn't do the tour, we just did tasting and sat outside on the new patio area and had a cocktail. Very cool place and I bet the tour would be good too. 

A little closer to home, but I will begrudgingly admit that Garrison Bros has a really nice spread in Hye. Great place to sit under a big Texas oak and sip a drink. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

Just picked up a E.H. Taylor single barrel at NW Hills. He said he had a Bomberger 2018 but I had no idea what it was so I didn’t buy it. 

He had a few more single barrels if anyone was looking 

Edited July 6, 2018 by Neonmoon

[FigurelliPwC 115]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Just picked up a E.H. Taylor single barrel at NW Hills. He said he had a Bomberger 2018 but I had no idea what it was so I didn’t buy it. 

He had a few more single barrels if anyone was looking 

How much?

[SMUlawUTgrad 81]

Hey sorry. I’m in the clear lake area.

[Neonmoon 38127]

2 hours ago, FigurelliPwC said:

How much?

$74 after taxes for EH Taylor single barrel. Definite mark up 

Bomberger was 80 or something around that. 

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

$74 after taxes for EH Taylor single barrel. Definite mark up 

Bomberger was 80 or something around that. 

I hope EH Taylor Single Barrel isn't head that way. It's the same price as Elijah Craig Barrel Proof right now. It shouldn't exceed that threshold. 

[ckhorn 208]

5 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I hope EH Taylor Single Barrel isn't head that way. It's the same price as Elijah Craig Barrel Proof right now. It shouldn't exceed that threshold. 

You just need to find them at Twins, TW or Specs 1st.

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

I will go ahead and recommend the Woodford Reserve Barrel Proof if your cash is burning a hole in your pocket. 

Woodford priced it too high, but thank goodness they didn't try some wine barrel finish gimmick. It is, what is. A good high proof bourbon that's too expensive.