Bourbon

[NOMAAA 1700]

My problem with most bardstown offerings is I drink them too fast. At the new prices I can’t do it. 

[RichUT 1940]

Their Origin products should hit TX in the coming weeks, and those are all priced in the $50 range. I’m looking forward to trying expressions that are 100% Bardstown distillate.

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

Tw usually does 100 points per $ I think.

Wlw is around 1600 secondary, if that’s worth it to you lmk and I can try to help you further

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

Tw usually does 100 points per $ I think.

Wlw is around 1600 secondary, if that’s worth it to you lmk and I can try to help you further

$10 per I think.

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

Does TW grand reserve get you access to allocated bottles other than the annual drawing?  Or is it really just to be eligible for the drawing?

[1978horn 904]

I have access to this unopened bottle. Apparently it is worth a lot(probably an understatement). The owner is interested in moving the bottle. How would one go about that and not get screwed in the process?

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

1 hour ago, 1978horn said:

I have access to this unopened bottle. Apparently it is worth a lot(probably an understatement). The owner is interested in moving the bottle. How would one go about that and not get screwed in the process?

I’d shoot @Bert Orange a message. He knows his dustys. 

[BigDHornfan 6635]

2 hours ago, 1978horn said:

I have access to this unopened bottle. Apparently it is worth a lot(probably an understatement). The owner is interested in moving the bottle. How would one go about that and not get screwed in the process?

that is between 4500-5000 secondary

[Carl Spackler 3623]

2 hours ago, 1978horn said:

I have access to this unopened bottle. Apparently it is worth a lot(probably an understatement). The owner is interested in moving the bottle. How would one go about that and not get screwed in the process?

Just don't go mixing it with that can of ginger ale . . .

[1978horn 904]

1 hour ago, BigDHornfan said:

that is between 4500-5000 secondary

I have see some say as much as 9000-12000.  No idea if that is legit and would have to be a special buyer.  No idea how to find a buyer at either price point.

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

Just don't go mixing it with that can of ginger ale . . .

Ha!  This bottle won't be opened by me.

[USCATX 1091]

4 hours ago, 1978horn said:

I have see some say as much as 9000-12000.  No idea if that is legit and would have to be a special buyer.  No idea how to find a buyer at either price point.

Ha!  This bottle won't be opened by me.

Secondary Facebook groups are usually under website/storefront secondary in the US. I’d agree that it’s in the $4000s range.   For the most part the website/storefront guys are buying large collections to get what amounts to a wholesale secondary price (or buying from other retailers) and then marking up to stupid retail. 

[Hermanator 7701]

On 1/9/2023 at 7:07 PM, KeysPhoneWallet said:

Tw usually does 100 points per $ I think.

Wlw is around 1600 secondary, if that’s worth it to you lmk and I can try to help you further

Oh ok. Thanks for the offer but I was thinking it would be in the $400 range or so. Shit has gotten weird in this arena

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

Spec’s Baby Saz pick is excellent. Fruity palate, lingering minty finish. 

[conVINCEd 21477]

7 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Oh ok. Thanks for the offer but I was thinking it would be in the $400 range or so. Shit has gotten weird in this arena

Shit’s been weird in this arena for 5+ years.

[Party_Taco 3899]

Saw a WSR on the shelf for $87 today… not as crazy as I’ve seen but still a hard pass.

[RichUT 1940]

https://www.breakingbourbon.com/review/bardstown-bourbon-company-west-virginia-great-barrel-co

I knew I wasn’t crazy…

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

3 minutes ago, RichUT said:

https://www.breakingbourbon.com/review/bardstown-bourbon-company-west-virginia-great-barrel-co

I knew I wasn’t crazy…

Jordan grades on a very tough scale. He’s dropped a 3 out of 5 on many bottles we’d all kill for.

Agreed. This is probably some good shit. 

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

Which one of you magnificent bastards is this?

[RichUT 1940]

Not I. A buddy of mine went in to hunt and found a Shenks, but I don’t know the guy that got the Willet or the RR13.

[BigDHornfan 6635]

Jordan grades on a very tough scale. He’s dropped a 3 out of 5 on many bottles we’d all kill for.
Agreed. This is probably some good shit. 

Ain’t no probably about it.
It’s damn good. But it’s not worth $160.
I’d pay 120-130 for it though.

[RichUT 1940]

I mean I feel like if you think it’s $130 good then charging $160 isn’t wildly out of line. I’d prefer that prices tick up to curb secondary shenanigans, but that’s just me.

[burns_312 356]

Picked up a bottle of Jefferson’s Pritchard Hill today. Really enjoyed the first pour.

[Carl Spackler 3623]

4 hours ago, RichUT said:

https://www.breakingbourbon.com/review/bardstown-bourbon-company-west-virginia-great-barrel-co

I knew I wasn’t crazy…

WTH is an "infrared toasted cherry oak barrel"?

[BigDHornfan 6635]

WTH is an "infrared toasted cherry oak barrel"?

They used alternating cherry wood staves and oak staves to rebuild barrels and used infrared heat instead of flame to toast the barrel.

[huge 3831]

4 hours ago, BigDHornfan said:

They used alternating cherry wood staves and oak staves to rebuild barrels and used infrared heat instead of flame to toast the barrel.

That has to play into the price, right?  Pretty labor intensive compared to not doing any of that shit.

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

Despite making some best of 2022 lists, Booker's 2022-03 isn't for me. I'll continue to choke it down thought because it's the only high proof bottle I have open right now. 

[ERhine 1939]

I feel like I’ve seen seventeen posts at this point from bill about how much he dislikes bookers. We get it already.

[Herbie Hancock 7503]

25 minutes ago, ERhine said:

I feel like I’ve seen seventeen posts at this point from bill about how much he dislikes bookers. We get it already.

Put him on ignore like the rest of us and this thread instantly becomes readable again 

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

Booker’s largely sucks and is priced poorly. I’m not sure why this thread needs to go all Looch v Ketch in Pluggerville parking lot over it. 

[ERhine 1939]

Eighteen.

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

Respect to @RichUT for recommending something unpopular and sticking by it. MGP ryes for $150 are a tough sell. But if it’s good, it’s good. 

[USCATX 1091]

I recommend this, prayers sent that y’all find one.  
 

And count me in as being totally ambivalent about Booker’s.  If I’m going for a readily findable high proofer it will be Elijah Craig Barrel Proof as a single barrel or batch.  

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

15 minutes ago, USCATX said:

I recommend this, prayers sent that y’all find one.  
 

And count me in as being totally ambivalent about Booker’s.  If I’m going for a readily findable high proofer it will be Elijah Craig Barrel Proof as a single barrel or batch.  

What would you compare the Parker’s to? 

[RichUT 1940]

That’s sweet that you’re sending us positive thoughts. You know it won’t help one bit though.

And however you and Bill feel about Booker’s is exactly the way I feel about any EC product. I’ve had several and I’ve never found one I wanted another pour of.

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

1 hour ago, RichUT said:

That’s sweet that you’re sending us positive thoughts. You know it won’t help one bit though.

And however you and Bill feel about Booker’s is exactly the way I feel about any EC product. I’ve had several and I’ve never found one I wanted another pour of.

Very hot take indeed. I thought ECBP was universally beloved. 

[USCATX 1091]

2 hours ago, RichUT said:

That’s sweet that you’re sending us positive thoughts. You know it won’t help one bit though.

And however you and Bill feel about Booker’s is exactly the way I feel about any EC product. I’ve had several and I’ve never found one I wanted another pour of.

Have you had the Evan Williams 12, gift shop or Japanese export version?  Sounds like something you might like in that profile range.  Pretty findable online or on a distillery tour and damn good. 

[RichUT 1940]

I have learned I primarily like HH wheaters. Larceny Barrel Proof and Old Fitz have always agreed with my pallet. I haven’t dabbled with any of the EW, and would probably start with a pour before chasing down a bottle.

[Superhero 9040]

I have no experience with bourbons and have been mostly a Scotch and Japanese whisky drinker.

My palate prefers a drink that isn’t heavy on pepper, but includes a moderate amount of smoke. My go-tos are Lagavulin, Yoichi, Talisker (which is pretty smoky), or Green Label when I’m drinking on a budget.

I want to add some bourbons to my whisky / whiskey shelf and looking for a starting point. Budgeting being $60-$80 per bottle.

 

Nothing too sweet please. I have a few bottles of Irish that I’m still trying to choke down. 

[RichUT 1940]

I don’t know that you’re going to find a pure play bourbon that you like just based on what you shared about your preferred profile.

If you could find a High West campfire…..maybe?

Honestly, just avoid bourbon. It’s become something of a pain in the ass over the last several years. The awesome thing about loving Scotch is that it’s highly available.

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

1 hour ago, Superhero said:

I have no experience with bourbons and have been mostly a Scotch and Japanese whisky drinker.

My palate prefers a drink that isn’t heavy on pepper, but includes a moderate amount of smoke. My go-tos are Lagavulin, Yoichi, Talisker (which is pretty smoky), or Green Label when I’m drinking on a budget.

I want to add some bourbons to my whisky / whiskey shelf and looking for a starting point. Budgeting being $60-$80 per bottle.

 

Nothing too sweet please. I have a few bottles of Irish that I’m still trying to choke down. 

Maker's Mark Private Select for wheat. All the store picks are pretty good. 

Pikesville for rye. If it's unavailable Jack Daniel Single Barrel Ryes are good. I don't think the store picks are worth the addition $15-20. 

Jack Daniel Single Barrel Barrel Proof for something high proof/tasty. The store picks are worth it. 

[BigDHornfan 6635]

Damn Bill,
You’re gonna kill him having him go from 80 proof scotch to 125-130ish proof JD.

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

I should have suggested a Buffalo Trace pick or ER. Both should be within his price range. 
 

If he lives in Kentucky, unlikely, Evan Williams SiB. 

[BigDHornfan 6635]

I have no experience with bourbons and have been mostly a Scotch and Japanese whisky drinker.
My palate prefers a drink that isn’t heavy on pepper, but includes a moderate amount of smoke. My go-tos are Lagavulin, Yoichi, Talisker (which is pretty smoky), or Green Label when I’m drinking on a budget.
I want to add some bourbons to my whisky / whiskey shelf and looking for a starting point. Budgeting being $60-$80 per bottle.
 
Nothing too sweet please. I have a few bottles of Irish that I’m still trying to choke down. 

You’re in California,
You should pm Henry Gandorf and go to his place and try a bunch of different pours to see what you like

[Hermanator 7701]

5 hours ago, Superhero said:

I have no experience with bourbons and have been mostly a Scotch and Japanese whisky drinker.

My palate prefers a drink that isn’t heavy on pepper, but includes a moderate amount of smoke. My go-tos are Lagavulin, Yoichi, Talisker (which is pretty smoky), or Green Label when I’m drinking on a budget.

I want to add some bourbons to my whisky / whiskey shelf and looking for a starting point. Budgeting being $60-$80 per bottle.

 

Nothing too sweet please. I have a few bottles of Irish that I’m still trying to choke down. 

Bourbon probably isn't for you. You should try some mezcals if you like smoke. 

Is this a good price for this? Should I get it?

 

[billfromlaketravis 11869]

1 hour ago, Hermanator said:

Bourbon probably isn't for you. You should try some mezcals if you like smoke. 

Is this a good price for this? Should I get it?

 

Yes. That’s a good one and only market about $20.

[Hermanator 7701]

On 1/13/2023 at 11:36 AM, Party_Taco said:

Saw a WSR on the shelf for $87 today… not as crazy as I’ve seen but still a hard pass.

Jesus. I still have half a bottle that I bought for about $27. I don't even like it much

[Bozo_Casanova 26910]

8 hours ago, Hermanator said:

 

Is this a good price for this? Should I get it?

 

It’s not bad but that’s very overpriced.

[BigDHornfan 6635]

Jesus, Mckenna at $64?  fuck that.  it was ok at $30.  Hard pass at $64.

[Firemans4Horn 18535]

10 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Bourbon probably isn't for you. You should try some mezcals if you like smoke. 

Is this a good price for this? Should I get it?

 

is the Larceny Barrel Proof around the same price? Get that instead. 

[veritas aequitas 444]

For years I have blended bottles when they get near the end and today I realized the need to journal these. Just had 1 of the best tasting pours ever from some sort of mix of Woodford Double Oaked, Michters Small Batch, Rare Breed, OF1910, Buffalo Trace and some Benchmark Full Proof.