ERCOT, PUC, and deregulation got us here

[Updawg 2302]

Failed state

I watched the Enron movie the other day.

Wouldn’t be surprised if we are going to get fucked over like California did

[cactusflinthead 27615]

 

[wildcat09 29453]

I can't wait for GRHorn's heroes to flood the state to mine bitcoin. 

[cactusflinthead 27615]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33942]

 

[Firemans4Horn 18304]

^ it’s like the reactor scene in Chernobyl

[Longhorn_Fan68 33942]

 

[mdmost 43310]

Maybe the wall Abbott wants to build will act as a cooling agent. 

[jimmyjazz 46482]

Fuck it, I'm setting our thermostats to 65 F.

[kevwun 15943]

Guys, it's never been 95 degrees in Texas before.  This is an unprecedented heat wave.

Edited June 14, 2021 by kevwun

[Zepol87 9263]

So fucking ridiculous

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

unregulated capitalism will fix this.

LOL

[Longhorn_Fan68 33942]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

unregulated capitalism will fix this.

LOL

you know the second favorite thing the GQP loves to do is throw money at problems. It's not their favorite thing, but it's close.

Edited June 14, 2021 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Continental Op 3934]

I'm sure the Surly oil barons will be along in the next hour or so to tell us why this is wind's fault. 

[Chuckie Finster 22766]

I cannot be held responsible for my actions if I'm trapped in my house without power with two children under 3 for the second time in 6 months.

[cactusflinthead 27615]

9 minutes ago, Continental Op said:

I'm sure the Surly oil barons will be along in the next hour or so to tell us why this is wind's fault. 

They're salivating over getting to 70 a barrel. 

Oh it's too hard because of the frequency.

Uh huh, sure it is.

[washparkhorn 9939]

[Neonmoon 38130]

I moved to a state connected to a regulated grid. It is glorious

Edited June 14, 2021 by Neonmoon

[David Dennison 19121]

 

19 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

They're salivating over getting to 70 a barrel. 

Oh it's too hard because of the frequency.

Uh huh, sure it is.

Thank God for the PEC.

Edited June 14, 2021 by David Dennison

[Pancho 45498]

9 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

I moved to a state connected to a regulated grid. It is glorious

[David Dennison 19121]

We don't get to make fun of California for anything anymore.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33942]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

We don't get to make fun of California for anything anymore.

we never really were allowed to.

[cactusflinthead 27615]

 

[washparkhorn 9939]

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

Guys, I'm having a bit of a problem here in North Carolina. I can't decide whether I should wear a polo, or just a regular t-shirt. Comfortable mild weather like this makes it so hard to choose sometimes.

[washparkhorn 9939]

poor ted . . . 

 

[David Dennison 19121]

Quote

Texans can reduce electricity use by setting the thermostat to 78 degrees or higher.

 

[cactusflinthead 27615]

 

[MissingInAction 25313]

If I lose power when its 105 out ill drop my sweaty taint right in abbots paralyzed lap.

[SydneyCarton 48315]

This isn't ideal, but it's a blip in the radar. If it's not, we're really in trouble. Typically it takes days and days of oppressive heat to get to the point of not meeting demand, because it requires days of the concrete not cooling down enough overnight and temperatures and thus demand snowballing. Think back in 2012 when we had those record setting days over 100 degrees. This is only happening because plants are down, which is a different kind of problem, and should be very temporary. If the grid suddenly can't handle a mid 90's day in June, despite it doing so every single year for the last 10 years, yeah, we're two months away from living in Thunderdome. We shouldn't have anything to worry about until July. 

[SydneyCarton 48315]

1 minute ago, MissingInAction said:

If I lose power when its 105 out ill drop my sweaty taint right in abbots paralyzed lap.

I'm not sure what good that is going to do, he won't feel a thing even if you've got fucking bowling balls down there. 

Why don't you just slap his face with them instead?

[David Dennison 19121]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

This isn't ideal, but it's a blip in the radar. If it's not, we're really in trouble. Typically it takes days and days of oppressive heat to get to the point of not meeting demand, because it requires days of the concrete not cooling down enough overnight and temperatures and thus demand snowballing. Think back in 2012 when we had those record setting days over 100 degrees. This is only happening because plants are down, which is a different kind of problem, and should be very temporary. If the grid suddenly can't handle a mid 90's day in June, despite it doing so every single year for the last 10 years, yeah, we're two months away from living in Thunderdome. We shouldn't have anything to worry about until July. 

I want to know why so many plants are down in mother f-ing June.

[SydneyCarton 48315]

Just now, David Dennison said:

I want to know why so many plants are down in mother f-ing June.

No clue. But if it's true a nuclear plan is down for whatever reason, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and give folks the benefit of the doubt for taking it offline.

I can comfortably say plants aren't down because natural gas lines froze. So there's that. But bringing more backup plants online for a mid 90's day wouldn't be normal, so it makes sense if plants are down  there isn't anything to replace it with. 

[atomheartbevo 90059]

7 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Until everybody gets home and turns on their home AC.

[SizzleChest 8295]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

I can comfortably say plants aren't down because natural gas lines froze. 

YOU DON'T KNOW THIS!!!

[atomheartbevo 90059]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

This isn't ideal, but it's a blip in the radar. If it's not, we're really in trouble. Typically it takes days and days of oppressive heat to get to the point of not meeting demand, because it requires days of the concrete not cooling down enough overnight and temperatures and thus demand snowballing. 

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I want to know why so many plants are down in mother f-ing June.

If I were George Soros and wanted to drive Republicans out of office in Texas, knocking power offline for a shitload of people during the worst winter storm in our lifetimes, followed by fuckery in June, not August, motherfucking June, would be a good way to do it.

Especially after Abbott guaranteed that everything's been fixed.

[MoJames 8257]

25 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Guys, I'm having a bit of a problem here in North Carolina. I can't decide whether I should wear a polo, or just a regular t-shirt. Comfortable mild weather like this makes it so hard to choose sometimes.

Yup, I tend to go t-shirt in these situations. In Colorado it is a bit warmer than normal as it is getting up to the 90s but dipping into the 50s at night. T-shirt really comes through in all situations imo.

[cactusflinthead 27615]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

No clue. But if it's true a nuclear plan is down for whatever reason, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and give folks the benefit of the doubt for taking it offline.

I can comfortably say plants aren't down because natural gas lines froze. So there's that. But bringing more backup plants online for a mid 90's day wouldn't be normal, so it makes sense if plants are down  there isn't anything to replace it with. 

ERCOT is doing a thorough analysis. I'm sure it's perfectly understandable since there's no one to tell them No when they decide to do something contrary to the overall good of the system.

Seriously, do they not have someone capable of seeing a problem with multiple producers going offline at once?

 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11825]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

 

Hey ERCOT, move to California!

[SydneyCarton 48315]

2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

ERCOT is doing a thorough analysis. I'm sure it's perfectly understandable since there's no one to tell them No when they decide to do something contrary to the overall good of the system.

Seriously, do they not have someone capable of seeing a problem with multiple producers going offline at once?

 

I mean. No one is going expects the Spanish Inquisition. 

[atomheartbevo 90059]

17 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Seriously, do they not have someone capable of seeing a problem with multiple producers going offline at once?

You act as though they have access to a calendar and a century's worth of temperature data.

[Js1 85765]

At what point does Cruz come out to blame the Green New Deal and Abbott tell Texans that the citizens of the state should have no reasonable expectations of AC/heat or electricity anymore during extreme cold or heat? 

[hayden_horn 11367]

17 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean. No one is going expects the Spanish Inquisition. 

[cactusflinthead 27615]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

You act as though they have access to a calendar and a century's worth of temperature data.

May the ghost of Harold Taft haunt them with endless interruptions of their favorite show.

[Fudge Nuggets 19276]

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

 

That’s some real Goldilocks and the three bears bullshit.

[atomheartbevo 90059]

Need to have somebody at the airport checking flights to Cancun

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33942]

 

[HornOnTheBayou 8967]

3 hours ago, Gooby said:

Now seems about the time when Ted Cruz would tweet something out about California's unreliable energy grid.

He would, but he's headed to the Himalayas.

[elfenix 34387]

1 hour ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Guys, I'm having a bit of a problem here in North Carolina. I can't decide whether I should wear a polo, or just a regular t-shirt. Comfortable mild weather like this makes it so hard to choose sometimes.

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 hours ago, kevwun said:

Guys, it's never been 95 degrees in Texas before.  This is an unprecedented heat wave.

It’s a 100 year heat wave! Can’t argue with Mother Nature! Only 50, I mean 150, I mean 950 people died!
 

Told y’all. Nothing will change until the republicans are finally voted out of office and this failed privatization experiment ends. At least I’ll be able to get out of my driveway this time and no busted frozen pipe.