ERCOT, PUC, and deregulation got us here

[cactusflinthead 27626]

 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Let's see if he says the same after three days

[Bama Chick 28596]

There’s a joke about Texas finally turning Blue to be made but seeing how I’m also currently iced in (albeit with no electricity or water issues) I’m probably not the one to make it.

Y’all do your best to stay safe and warm.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

4 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

 

 

“I don't think it's quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip up, sir.”

 -General Buck Turgidson 

[Goredho 17627]

With the GOP's continued mismanagement of Texas, it is looking like Beto's going to be able to take your guns from your cold, dead fingers without any sort of confrontation whatsoever.

[WhatTheBuck 28904]

[Pig Bellmont 8867]

 

[cactusflinthead 27626]

 

[Left Coast 879]

Wait, so have the governor and senators from California sent out snarky tweets about Republicans’ inability to manage an electric grid while millions of people are suffering without power?

Isn’t that what politicians from other states are supposed to do in times of crisis? 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Good god. In Dallas.

[TwiceHorn 31984]

34 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

Lot of people in the Park Cities have no power or are being included in the rolling blackouts. My ex-wife lives by HP Village and doesn't have power or water service right now after a pipe burst on Preston Road.

Yeah that Oncor map is ridiculously inaccurate.

[bad_teammate 13479]

33 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Here's the thing: He's not wrong.

My politics are obvious and what I want to happen is obvious (search "Thorium" in this forum), but sometimes shit happens and it has little/nothing to do with whatever your politics are. It's very easy to get Terminal Politics Poisoning and see LITERALLY EVERY HUMAN EVENT through the spectrum of validating pre-existing political beliefs.

[henrygandorf 29218]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

his logic is sound, but his grammar is a disaster.

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

17 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Good god. In Dallas.
 

Is that real?  Did he leave a window open?   My uninsulated garage isn't even freezing much less cold enough to freeze that much water 

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

49 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

What about two or three days fucker?

 

Also, tweet at him to check if urban Meyer is ok.

[TwiceHorn 31984]

1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

Probably deleted because his power went out and now he’s busy tearfully screaming at Oncor about how they’re killing his family and he’s going to sue. And also because he is trying to figure out how to set up a GoFundMe.GiveSendGo

Fify.

[Hagbard Celine 11157]

kxas livestreaming no bullshit in the stream

interviewing wheels live in 10ish+ minutes

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/live-coverage-from-nbc-dallas-fort-worth-nbcdfw-4/2181809/

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19279]

16 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Here's the thing: He's not wrong.

My politics are obvious and what I want to happen is obvious (search "Thorium" in this forum), but sometimes shit happens and it has little/nothing to do with whatever your politics are. It's very easy to get Terminal Politics Poisoning and see LITERALLY EVERY HUMAN EVENT through the spectrum of validating pre-existing political beliefs.

I also agree with this, though I do think Texas needs to have a capacity market.  And I also am a believer in nuclear power as good baseline generation.

[UDontKnow 10557]

4 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I also agree with this, though I do think Texas needs to have a capacity market.  And I also am a believer in nuclear power as good baseline generation.

Why nuclear and not solar or wind?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19279]

1 minute ago, UDontKnow said:

Why nuclear and not solar or wind?

Because we need improvements in battery tech and storage capacity to get to where solar and wind could function as that given peak demand in Texas.  

[Goredho 17627]

The ex-mayor of Colorado City, TX says, "Let them heat cake!"



https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/ex-colorado-city-mayor-catching-heat-for-comments-about-citizens-affected-by-cold/

Edited February 16, 2021 by Goredho
I also like "BE A PART OF THE (FINAL) SOLUTION!"

[GW Hayduke 1957]

Anyone have a link, source or brief analysis on how texas’ deregulation of our electric utility has led to this fiasco?  Trying to keep a fire going so can’t do much research now

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20834]

My sister in early January:  "I have proudly voted for Republicans here in Texas in every election since 1984."

Also my sister: "WHO THE FUCK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ELECTRICITY GOING OUT?  I HAVEN'T HAD POWER FOR 36 HOURS! I'M FREEZING!"

The size of the canyon in her mental disconnect makes the Grand Canyon feel lie a small, puny valley.

[StassneyHorn 6755]

16 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

Anyone have a link, source or brief analysis on how texas’ deregulation of our electric utility has led to this fiasco?  Trying to keep a fire going so can’t do much research now

https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/

[Beantown Express 2.0 6586]

Wrong thread

Edited February 16, 2021 by Beantown Express 2.0

[UDontKnow 10557]

22 minutes ago, Goredho said:

The ex-mayor of Colorado City, TX says, "Let them heat cake!"



https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/ex-colorado-city-mayor-catching-heat-for-comments-about-citizens-affected-by-cold/

You left off the sequel to the original post.

[GW Hayduke 1957]

4 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/

I wasn’t thinking about federal oversight. I was thinking about the deregulated marketplace that occurred 1999 or 2002 or whenever and how that led to the problems we are having

[UDontKnow 10557]

2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

So I got power for 30 minutes and went on Facebook.  Some family that live in my neighborhood are posting pics of them in FL in the sun and water at the beach saying they are so lucky to be stuck there and not in TX. A bunch of people responded to the post how lucky they are and how cool they are for not being here.  Am I wrong to want to respond that there is a natural disaster going on in TX with people dying so maybe don’t post pics at the beach right now?  I mean I am as big of a prick as anybody but this seems so insensitive.  

Maybe conserve your power for something more important than Facebook rage which will predictably get you nowhere.

[washparkhorn 9967]

29 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

we need improvements in battery tech and storage capacity

100% agree - as does MIT Technology Review.  It is a work in progress.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/10/10/369/how-a-new-class-of-startups-are-working-to-solve-the-grid-storage-puzzle/

[Bama Chick 28596]

Is that real?  Did he leave a window open?   My uninsulated garage isn't even freezing much less cold enough to freeze that much water 

From the bulging ceiling looks like a pipe burst and now the resulting leaking water has frozen.

That whole hallway is going to be a loss.

[Hagbard Celine 11157]

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

it's about goddamn time

[4th&Five 41902]

 

[Horn Dog 10156]

10 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

You left off the sequel to the original post.

The best part is him bitching about his wife losing her job and “threating our livelihood”.  Hey cupcake, no one owes you or your wife anything!  Stop being lazy and fend for yourself!!

Edited February 16, 2021 by Horn Dog

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

41 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Because we need improvements in battery tech and storage capacity to get to where solar and wind could function as that given peak demand in Texas.  

Penelope and Bad Teammate sittin' in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g 

[JimmyJames 12271]

10 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

You left off the sequel to the original post.

Looks like ex mayor Tim Boyd fucked around and found out.  Even gets his wife fired but I guess she should take personal responsibility for marrying such a piece of shit. Probably needs to pull herself up by her bootstraps now.

[Goredho 17627]

1 minute ago, UDontKnow said:

You left off the sequel to the original post.

It always amazes me how many assholes want to treat others with callous disregard but then expect empathy and understanding in return.

[henrygandorf 29218]

4 minutes ago, Goredho said:

It always amazes me how many assholes want to treat others with callous disregard but then expect empathy and understanding in return.

is this your first experience with a trump republican?

[Pig Bellmont 8867]

Awesome 

[Dr. Teeth 5868]

On a positive note, Ted Cruz can't block any disaster relief funding for Texas when this stretches out longer.

[RDCanecutter 26851]

9 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Congratulations on being pricks - what do you have to say now?

They all passed the Trash Test of mocking other people who are dealing with problems.

[RDCanecutter 26851]

1 hour ago, Left Coast said:

Wait, so have the governor and senators from California sent out snarky tweets about Republicans’ inability to manage an electric grid while millions of people are suffering without power?

Isn’t that what politicians from other states are supposed to do in times of crisis? 

Hopefully they don't feel the need to puff up and strut in California like the empty-eyed Goeb, Cruz, and other riffraff do.

[washparkhorn 9967]

23 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

They all passed the Trash Test of mocking other people who are dealing with problems.

The Texas Republican Party needs an enema. 

[Guadaloopy 11129]

I nearly lost it on my Mom today.  I called to check on my folks after they didn’t respond to my texts.  Mom answers and says that she and my Dad and my brother and his two kids are doing fine but are dealing with rolling blackouts.  
 

Doesn’t take two seconds after letting me know the family is OK before she jumps into a rant about how some idiot decided to shift 25% of the power generation capacity to wind turbines and that they are all frozen and that is what is causing the power issues.
 

It just makes me ragey that she can’t get through two minutes of conversation anymore without spewing the latest talking points from her Republican women’s club.  

[Beantown Express 2.0 6586]

1 hour ago, Goredho said:

The ex-mayor of Colorado City, TX says, "Let them heat cake!"



https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/ex-colorado-city-mayor-catching-heat-for-comments-about-citizens-affected-by-cold/

You know this mayor makes a lot of sense.  We should all fend for ourselves.  On that same topic, I would like all city, county, state and federal governments to return every dollar in taxes I have ever paid them since apparently we should be on our own and I shouldn’t have had to pay them for nothing.  

[High Plains Drifter 11160]

8 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

This is exactly what he is telling me.  That being said he is a dumbass but I don’t think he is doing it on purpose.  He is just telling me what Fox News told him.  He assumes its the truth cause its the news.

 

kick him in the nuts and move on.

 

[Hagbard Celine 11157]

55 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Awesome 

"Oncor officials said they tried to trade power among neighborhoods but were unsuccessful because of the grid’s weakening stability, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said in a call Monday with Oncor spokeswoman Kerri Dunn."

Wheels told us the grid was not compromised.

oh, and his interview on kxas5 was a pathetic pile of manure.   the segment was positioned as "and now we're getting answers from the governor himself".    except no actual questions were asked.  why give him the platform?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

When Trump gets crucified because he’s the messiah, it’s only fitting that it be on a windmill. 

[Horn Dog 10156]

24 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I nearly lost it on my Mom today.  I called to check on my folks after they didn’t respond to my texts.  Mom answers and says that she and my Dad and my brother and his two kids are doing fine but are dealing with rolling blackouts.  
 

Doesn’t take two seconds after letting me know the family is OK before she jumps into a rant about how some idiot decided to shift 25% of the power generation capacity to wind turbines and that they are all frozen and that is what is causing the power issues.
 

It just makes me ragey that she can’t get through two minutes of conversation anymore without spewing the latest talking points from her Republican women’s club.  

I wish i had a wind turbine company so i could sue Fox News for 2 billion dollars for spewing this nonsense.

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

34 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

The Texas Republican Party needs an enema. 

The image they put out there on the national and international stage is 100 percent, pure-d, natural born, genuwine nothin' but aggy.

aggy has won in terms of our image. We can take it back. But right now we are all aggy. 

[Pig Bellmont 8867]

Just can’t seem to put my finger on what the problem was and think this was incredibly unpredictable... I mean who ever could see such a thing happening?