Texas -- a failed state

[Frank Drebin 5642]

I guess will just have to take your supposition for it.  Texas politicians didn’t shutdown schools near as long or as hard core as those disgusting shitbird New York politicians shut down their schools to fuck over kids.  So it’s likely the performance gap has widened. 

[jettrink 40]

On 11/7/2024 at 8:18 AM, Chad Fuck said:

Yup. Believing that people care about facts is apparently passé.

Son comes home crying from school

Dad:  What's wrong son?

Son: I had to sit down in the spelling bee cause I missed a word.

Dad: what word was it?

Son: Passé

Dad: No wonder you missed it, you can't even pronounce correctly!

[Eskimohorn 5635]

Texas does a stellar job with public education per NAEP adjusted scores.  Other states need to catch up
 
.


Texas is smoking shit holes like New York

Texas is worse than New York in reading and math. Adjusted for poverty, special ed, and race and ethnicity I guess looks better. Especially that Texas spends less per student than most states.

Is your point that all states should be like Texas? Because adjusted for childhood poverty and the high number of kids in special ed and the funding adequacy issues, we rule?

What brain worm do you have?

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

On 11/6/2024 at 10:31 AM, Frank Drebin said:

Trump takes Texas by 13.9, Florida by a mere 13.1. Texas is still the GOAT

Sorry buddy.  Trump takes OK by 34 points.  Texas sucks.  

[Frank Drebin 5642]

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Sorry buddy.  Trump takes OK by 34 points.  Texas sucks.  

There is still work to do.  But:

 

[closetohumping 17442]

We can drop the Texas is purple talk now right?

[closetohumping 17442]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Sorry buddy.  Trump takes OK by 34 points.  Texas sucks.  

Trump crushed Kamala in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas as well. Huge MOV

[Iceman 2715]

On 11/9/2024 at 9:45 AM, closetohumping said:

We can drop the Texas is purple talk now right?

Depends upon the grip...

[tx 3 putt 76980]

now Abbott will control UT’s purse strings. Changes incoming ….

 

Edited November 12 by tx 3 putt

[Shut up Lou Holtz 2035]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

now Abbott will control UT’s purse strings. Changes incoming ….

 

As an educator, watching other educators vote for trump while teaching a form of special ed is just mind blowing 

[Dnaguy 11979]

43 minutes ago, Shut up Lou Holtz said:

As an educator, watching other educators vote for trump while teaching a form of special ed is just mind blowing 

You can say it.

It’s retarded.

 

[CTC2 2797]

Ok, so they did a really good job of tamping down the crazy voter turnout of 2020, they do everything they can to undermine the public school system, jam down vouchers to get money to Christian schools, weaken curriculum in schools, drive teachers out of the profession, go nutty with the abortion law and then when they are asked to clarify it for the health of the mother, they say no. They also are inactive on things like public health, don’t take part in Medicare expansion, and generally give the middle finger to anyone who is even remotely for action on climate. They are failing to address the coming problem with our water supply and are contributing to our skyrocketing insurance rates. In the name of freedom, they let people walk around with firearms without even as much as a basic proficiency test, but yet can’t ever seem to find the funds to get rape kits tested.  
They also spend a god awful amount of tax dollars on militarization of the border and start building their own wall while denying teachers raises. 
They allow about three West Texas billionaires dictate laws, lawsuits filed by the state, prosecutions and when someone stands up to them they crush them at election time.  Oh, and by the way, the three billionaires openly admit to wanting to make Texas a Christian Nationalist state. 
They maintain a power grid for only Texas pride purposes but can’t seem to pull their head out of their ass to fix it. But then, they offer tax incentives to crypto outfits who come in and account for 30% of our electrical use on any given day. 

I mean, what’s the end game here?

Edited November 12 by CTC2

[Anastasis 23474]

On 11/8/2024 at 9:57 PM, Eskimohorn said:

Texas is worse than New York in reading and math. Adjusted for poverty, special ed, and race and ethnicity I guess looks better. Especially that Texas spends less per student than most states.

Is your point that all states should be like Texas? Because adjusted for childhood poverty and the high number of kids in special ed and the funding adequacy issues, we rule?

What brain worm do you have?

Imagine thinking that it is the states responsibility to educate your children. True brain worms. 

[Sawbonz 27565]

44 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Imagine thinking that it is the states responsibility to educate your children. True brain worms. 

Whose job is it?

[tx 3 putt 76980]

56 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

Ok, so they did a really good job of tamping down the crazy voter turnout of 2020, they do everything they can to undermine the public school system, jam down vouchers to get money to Christian schools, weaken curriculum in schools, drive teachers out of the profession, go nutty with the abortion law and then when they are asked to clarify it for the health of the mother, they say no. They also are inactive on things like public health, don’t take part in Medicare expansion, and generally give the middle finger to anyone who is even remotely for action on climate. They are failing to address the coming problem with our water supply and are contributing to our skyrocketing insurance rates. In the name of freedom, they let people walk around with firearms without even as much as a basic proficiency test, but yet can’t ever seem to find the funds to get rape kits tested.  
They also spend a god awful amount of tax dollars on militarization of the border and start building their own wall while denying teachers raises. 
They allow about three West Texas billionaires dictate laws, lawsuits filed by the state, prosecutions and when someone stands up to them they crush them at election time.  Oh, and by the way, the three billionaires openly admit to wanting to make Texas a Christian Nationalist state. 
They maintain a power grid for only Texas pride purposes but can’t seem to pull their head out of their ass to fix it. But then, they offer tax incentives to crypto outfits who come in and account for 30% of our electrical use on any given day. 

I mean, what’s the end game here?

 

iranian type of govt, a small group with an iron grip on govt and the nation. backed by christian nationalist army 

musk has said, an elite small group of high status alpha males running the govt 

 

Edited November 12 by tx 3 putt

[tx 3 putt 76980]

my guess, abbott is 100% going to ban non citizens from K to public university 

he has to out maga other maga governors 

Edited November 12 by tx 3 putt

[bluto 4930]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Imagine thinking that it is the states responsibility to educate your children. True brain worms. 

It’s literally in the fucking STATE constitution. 
A general diffusion of knowledge being essential to the preservation of the liberties and rights of the people, it shall be the duty of the Legislature of the State to establish and make suitable provision for the support and maintenance of an efficient system of public free schools.

[mchookem 16336]

wait... what's the argument? 🤔 if not the state...like who?

this is a new one.

 

[Sawbonz 27565]

20 minutes ago, bluto said:

It’s literally in the fucking STATE constitution. 
A general diffusion of knowledge being essential to the preservation of the liberties and rights of the people, it shall be the duty of the Legislature of the State to establish and make suitable provision for the support and maintenance of an efficient system of public free schools.

Something about a University of the first class in there as well i think 

[bluto 4930]

1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Something about a University of the first class in there as well i think 

Let’s not be greedy these days. 

[safe sex 11735]

For the first time in my posting history that I can recall, I would like Ana to expound on his point.

[tx 3 putt 76980]

29 minutes ago, bluto said:

It’s literally in the fucking STATE constitution. 
A general diffusion of knowledge being essential to the preservation of the liberties and rights of the people, it shall be the duty of the Legislature of the State to establish and make suitable provision for the support and maintenance of an efficient system of public free schools.

 

maga wipes their ass with any written law or consitutions.

it’s trump’s way or get the fuck out of his country

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

‘Imagine thinking that it is the states responsibility to educate your children.’

            -True brain worms. 

Lol wut 🐛 

 

edit:   Sorry.  Got it.  

Edited November 12 by ChiTownDoc

[safe sex 11735]

Like, I'm gooped

[tx 3 putt 76980]

1 minute ago, safe sex said:

For the first time in my posting history that I can recall, I would like Ana to expound on his point.

[bolverk 29683]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Whose job is it?

 

1 hour ago, mchookem said:

wait... what's the argument? 🤔 if not the state...like who?

this is a new one.

 

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

For the first time in my posting history that I can recall, I would like Ana to expound on his point.

 

It's not my place to speak for Anastasis, but it appears he's offline, so I'll go ahead and venture a guess. He's likely saying that it's the responsibility of the parents/family to educate their kids. Ultimately, I would agree that's true from a general sense, though his statement can be taken in a couple of ways. Some would argue it might also apply to being responsible for their instruction. Obviously, we could never assume that all parents are suited to educating all subjects, and Anastasis would agree. But, again, he'd likely respond with a curt put-down to further inflame your collective ire and would then get distracted. So, all in all, I'd advise letting it rest. 

[DaysOff 7951]

Yes, let's let our mostly uneducated populace be in charge of educating the future leaders and workers of Texas. All you need is the King James Version.

[staboner 4975]

6 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

You can say it.

It’s retarded.

 

* regarded

[Anastasis 23474]

6 hours ago, bolverk said:

It's not my place to speak for Anastasis, but it appears he's offline, so I'll go ahead and venture a guess. He's likely saying that it's the responsibility of the parents/family to educate their kids. Ultimately, I would agree that's true from a general sense, though his statement can be taken in a couple of ways. Some would argue it might also apply to being responsible for their instruction. Obviously, we could never assume that all parents are suited to educating all subjects, and Anastasis would agree. But, again, he'd likely respond with a curt put-down to further inflame your collective ire and would then get distracted. So, all in all, I'd advise letting it rest. 

They can't all be bangers from outside the box. Our public school system is a fucking joke. Basically just organized indoctrination camps with some math and an athletic program tacked on. 

[safe sex 11735]

Oh, that is super disappointing

[Captainant 27678]

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

They can't all be bangers from outside the box. Our public school system is a fucking joke. Basically just organized indoctrination camps with some math and an athletic program tacked on. 

You're right, moving to a 100% privatized and religious education model will fix everything. Privatizing has done wonders for basically every industry, and has never resulted in worse outcomes for the new clients of these monopolies 

[TwiceHorn 31488]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

They can't all be bangers from outside the box. Our public school system is a fucking joke. Basically just organized indoctrination camps with some math and an athletic program tacked on. 

And private Christian schools are?

C'mon man, we had this conversation in private years ago.

[Evil Bill Obrien 3286]

10 hours ago, CTC2 said:

I mean, what’s the end game here?

Same as it always has been: to let the chosen few line their pockets at the expense of us pleabs/taxpayers/general public and then slink off to the next place where their grift will work before the consequences catch up with them here...

[Evil Bill Obrien 3286]

10 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Imagine thinking that it is the states responsibility to educate your children. True brain worms. 

So, let's just set aside for a minute that you might be the one with the brain worms for posting this...please expound on who should be educating the children if you would? If we are just going to let someone light the State constitution on fire and all really want to know what you think a better alternative is...

EDIT: sorry missed where you replied that basically you think kids should be on their own with whatever parental situation they were born into and whatever they can teach them...god forbid anyone get exposed to any sort of world views or concepts outside of that...got it

Edited November 12 by Evil Bill Obrien
reasons

[Fudge Nuggets 19195]

7 hours ago, bolverk said:

So, all in all, I'd advise letting it rest. 

No, fuck him.  Universities have education degrees to prepare graduates to educate our kids.  Next up, "Imagine it's the state's responsibility to provide safety for you and your family."

[Anastasis 23474]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And private Christian schools are?

Indoctrination camps with better reading lists and shitty athletic programs?

[Evil Bill Obrien 3286]

2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

No, fuck him.  Universities have education degrees to prepare graduates to educate our kids.  Next up, "Imagine it's the state's responsibility to provide safety for you and your family."

Well the joke is going to be on Ana and a lot of MAGA folks when "the libs" start buying up all the guns to try to protect themselves from a tyrannical government...

[Biff Tannen 45691]

6 hours ago, DaysOff said:

Yes, let's let our mostly uneducated populace be in charge of educating the future leaders and workers of Texas. All you need is the King James Version.

And there it is.

[mchookem 16336]

i still don't understand what's being advocated here. like surely Cletus in Elkhart isn't expected to teach his kid calculus??

 

 

[Evil Bill Obrien 3286]

4 minutes ago, mchookem said:

i still don't understand what's being advocated here. like surely Cletus in Elkhart isn't expected to teach his kid calculus??

 

 

It seems like Its eventually going to be either Cletus in Elkhart or the Pastor Pedo at the local church of child diddling who will be teaching the kids calculus here in Texas

[Anastasis 23474]

4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Universities have education degrees to prepare graduates to educate our kids. 

Yeah, I love those people.

18 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Next up, "Imagine it's the state's responsibility to provide safety for you and your family."

"Never call the cops." 

It's a little dogmatic, I know. But it's a pretty reasonable place to start with a 9 year old. You can break out the nuance when they get a bit older. 

[Eskimohorn 5635]

Advocating against a system of free public schools

[mchookem 16336]

so Cletus IS expected to teach his kids calculus??

and bc he can't...

 

wow. it took less than a week for this particular mask to slip. just...wow. 

 

[Anastasis 23474]

20 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Advocating against a system of free public schools

Nothing is free. And I am not advocating against public schools. But if you came through that whole COVID thing we all lived through a few years ago with a sense that you can rely on the state to educate your children, I am not sure what to tell you. We're not even talking about a long attention span being required here. 

[Eskimohorn 5635]

Nothing is free. And I am not advocating against public schools. But if you came through that whole COVID thing we all lived through a few years ago with a sense that you can rely on the state to educate your children, I am not sure what to tell you. We're not even talking about a long attention span being required here. 

Public school is free for students, as the Texas Constitution specifies. And you dont know what to tell us.

[Anastasis 23474]

34 minutes ago, mchookem said:

so Cletus IS expected to teach his kids calculus??

Does he have a youtube channel? 

[Iceman 2715]

38 minutes ago, mchookem said:

 

wow. it took less than a week for this particular mask to slip. just...wow. 

 

This one hasn’t been a mask in a decade or so.  There is a war being waged on public schools.  Sad thing is, as idiotic and misplaced as the charter/ home school/ private horseshit is; the administration and conduct of public education has floundered at best to counter with substantive arguments/ results that would sway things in their favor. 
 

Public education has been driven into the ground. I just disagree that vouchers remotely solve the issue in any way. 

[mchookem 16336]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Does he have a youtube channel? 

he probably barely has internet or the equipment to access it. i mean wtf dude. the election broke you too apparently. 

[Anastasis 23474]

Just now, mchookem said:

he probably barely has internet or the equipment to access it. i mean wtf dude. the election broke you too apparently. 

I think that you condescend the "Cletus's" of the world. Fully 95% of the American population has internet access, and those without access are the very olds. If y'all would let him, Elon would probably shore up the last 5%. And it's not really about the internet. It is about this core notion at the heart of it. That you* know better than Cletus, and that once you can wrap that superior understanding of the world in the cloak of the state, everyone is better off for it. Elections do not break normal people. But they do deliver lessons.

 

*royal you, not to be taken personally I hope. 

[bluto 4930]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I think that you condescend the "Cletus's" of the world. Fully 95% of the American population has internet access, and those without access are the very olds. If y'all would let him, Elon would probably shore up the last 5%. And it's not really about the internet. It is about this core notion at the heart of it. That you* know better than Cletus, and that once you can wrap that superior understanding of the world in the cloak of the state, everyone is better off for it. Elections do not break normal people. But they do deliver lessons.

 

*royal you, not to be taken personally I hope. 

Considering the stereotype Cletus of Appalachia pours gallons of Mountain Dew down his kids gullets and doesn’t believe in modern medicine, somebody needs to be the none Q adult.