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1 hour ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

 

So Governor Hot Wheels is threatening to defund Texas Children's and BCOM because 1 doctor had the gall to stand up and say his citizenship question executive order is dumb...

 

TCH is in Houston.  Houston votes blue.  It's why he doesn't care if a major storms hits the region as well.  

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1 hour ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

 

So Governor Hot Wheels is threatening to defund Texas Children's and BCOM because 1 doctor had the gall to stand up and say his citizenship question executive order is dumb...

 

I wonder if Greg was hitting the sauce when he wrote this last night. ou better think twice? law in the Order?

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1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

houston methodist sugar land …

 

She shouldn't have been such a whore.  Should have kept her legs together.

Isn't that how this goes?  Isn't that what we're supposed to say about every evil bitch who wants an evil abortion?  Or did I get the wrong briefing from the "We Super-Duper Love Jesus Right to Lifers?" 

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Religious puritans/fanatics are on the warpath across America. And they now have almost unchecked political power.

Religious puritan + warparth + power = People dying. Big time. 

Too extreme of a take? 

Just ask the Native Americans. Millions died at hands of religious puritans.

Just ask the million dead Covid victims because religious fanatics would not wear masks.

Mass death is coming to America and Texas. Again. Big time. 

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50 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

I read that earlier today.  Just sad the joyfully intended outcome all around.

FIF accuracy.

Women are expendable.  Because they are secondary.  Made from Adam's rib and all that.  Not the Prime Being that is the only one that actually deserves human rights (the head of household, as decreed by the Lord God Jehovah).

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

FIF accuracy.

Women are expendable.  Because they are secondary.  Made from Adam's rib and all that.  Not the Prime Being that is the only one that actually deserves human rights (the head of household, as decreed by the Lord God Jehovah).

 

state oggyn’s makes it easier to track all pregnancies 

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Very glad my daughter made it through Texas public schools before what's coming fully gets here.
 
Texas Education Board to Vote on Bible-Infused Lessons in Public Schools
A new curriculum would focus on Christianity more than other religions. A kindergarten lesson on the Golden Rule, for example, would teach about Jesus and his Sermon on the Mount.
Texas education officials are expected to vote on Monday on whether to approve a new elementary-school curriculum that infuses teachings on the Bible into reading and language arts lessons.
The optional curriculum, one of most sweeping efforts in recent years to bring a Christian perspective to more students, would test the limits of religious instruction in public education.
It could also become a model for other states and for the administration of President-elect Donald J. Trump, who has promised to champion the conservative Christian movement in his second presidential term.
In the ascendant but highly contested push to expand the role of religion in public life, Texas has emerged as a leader. It was the first state to allow public schools to hire religious chaplains as school counselors, and the Republican-controlled legislature is expected to renew its attempts to require public-school classrooms to display the Ten Commandments.
The new curriculum, which covers kindergarten through fifth grade, would be optional, although school districts would receive a financial incentive to adopt it. The Texas State Board of Education sets standards for what students must be taught and approves a selection of curriculums, and individual schools and school districts choose which ones they will teach.
Texas has about 2.3 million public-school students in kindergarten through fifth grade who could be taught the new curriculum.
Religion makes up a relatively small portion of the overall content. But the lessons delve into Christianity far more often and in depth than they do into other faiths, religious scholars say and a review of the materials by The New York Times found.
In kindergarten, for example, children would be taught that many religions value the Golden Rule, but the lessons would be focused on the Christian version, and introduce students to Jesus and his Sermon on the Mount.
In a fifth-grade lesson on Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper,” students would be taught an account of the final meal shared by Jesus and his 12 disciples, and would read several verses from the Gospel of Matthew.
The Bible has often appeared in American schools throughout the nation’s history, and schools are free to teach from religious texts. Even so, the proposed curriculum has ignited an uproar, with parents and teachers — including some Christian Texans — expressing worry that the lessons blur the line between instruction and evangelizing, and present scripture and tenets of the Christian faith as factual truths to young children.
Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, and other supporters of the new program say that the Bible is a fundamental text in American history, and argue that students’ knowledge of the world would be incomplete without a classical education and robust understanding of Bible stories.
The Texas Education Agency, which oversees public education in the state, released the new curriculum in the spring after the state enacted a law directing the agency to develop its own free textbooks. The law was aimed at providing high-quality teaching materials to educators who often spend long hours searching for them, lawmakers said.
The move provoked immediate controversy. A top curriculum publisher took issue with a state request to add more biblical content to its materials, the education news outlet The 74 reported.
When a panel was convened to vet the new curriculum for bias, opponents argued that the state included several people o the panel who were known for religious advocacy, including Ben Carson, the former federal housing secretary, to rubber-stamp the lessons.
“They’re using Texas as a testing ground for these extreme ideas,” said State Representative James Talarico, a Christian and a Democrat who is also a student at a Presbyterian seminary in Austin.
Similar clashes are erupting in other states, like Oklahoma and Louisiana, where conservative Christian leaders have taken steps to expand the role of religion in public schools. Proponents say Christian themes are pervasive in American culture and that exposing students to them is crucial to their academic development.
“Our language is redolent with concepts, phrases and allusions drawn directly from the Bible and other touchstones of Western thought and culture,” Robert Pondiscio, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, wrote in a recent column.
“Without complete command of these references, students — particularly poor, minority and immigrant students — will struggle to fully comprehend what they read,” Mr. Pondiscio, a former teacher, wrote.
The new curriculum has provoked the anger of Texans of other faiths, who say the lessons lack balance and in some places are even offensive.
Some Jewish families were outraged, for example, over an activity included in a second-grade lesson on the Old Testament story of Esther. In the biblical account, a high-ranking official in the Persian Empire cast lots to decide when all Jews in the land would be killed, and Esther stopped the planned attack.
The lesson included a game in which teachers would ask students to choose a number and then roll a die to see if their number was called.
“This is shocking, offensive and just plain wrong,” Sharyn Vane, a Jewish parent of two Texas public school graduates, said at a public hearing on the curriculum in September, where the majority of speakers criticized the potential lessons.
“Do we ask elementary students to pretend to be Hitler?” Ms. Vane asked, calling the curriculum “wildly problematic in its depictions of Jews.”
The curriculum developers removed the dice rolling game and made other changes after the hearing.
Thomas K. Lindsay, the higher education policy director at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a conservative group, said that he was “frustrated and very saddened” that critics of the curriculum were focused on its religious content. He argued that the lessons do not proselytize to children.
The Texas Education Agency has said that the proposed curriculum was developed using cognitive science research to improve student outcomes, and Mr. Lindsay said that critics were ignoring its potential to help close reading gaps for children who are behind.
“I understand we’re a polarized country,” said Mr. Lindsay, a member of the state’s curriculum advisory board. “But we’ve got a chance to do something good for the kids who need it most.”
Some critics of the new curriculum say that besides a lack of balance, some of its lessons simply are not very good.
Mark A. Chancey, a professor of religious studies at Southern Methodist University near Dallas, said that the material includes apparent errors. He said the lessons were also often “not age appropriate,” he added, noting that a lesson that describes Genesis to kindergartners could lead them to believe it was fact that God created the world in six days.
David R. Brockman, a Christian theologian and religious studies scholar who reviewed the curriculum, said he has “long been an advocate of teaching about religion in public schools.” But lessons must be balanced, accurate and not promote one religion over others, he said.
The Texas curriculum, he said, does not clear the bar.
In a fifth-grade unit on racial justice, students would be taught that Abraham Lincoln and abolitionists relied in part “on a deep Christian faith” to “guide their certainty of the injustice of slavery.” But they would not be taught that other Christians leaned on the same religion to defend slavery and segregation.
It was one example, Mr. Brockman said, of what he called a “whitewashing of the negative details of Christian history” that “helps to promote Christianity as an inherently ‘good' religion.”
 
 

So what’s the status of this? The articles I can find would indicate it’s been approved and will therefore be implemented. Is that it, or are there remaining hurdles to clear?
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So what’s the status of this? The articles I can find would indicate it’s been approved and will therefore be implemented. Is that it, or are there remaining hurdles to clear?

I think it’s been approved but it is voluntary to implement by school district. I’m sure there are others more knowledgeable here who can tell me if I’m wrong.
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56 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

 

So what’s the status of this? The articles I can find would indicate it’s been approved and will therefore be implemented. Is that it, or are there remaining hurdles to clear?

It's basically an approved material/curriculum, but districts aren't required to teach. 

It'll be in TEKS next year I'd bet though

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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who spoke at a pro-Trump rally in Washington, D.C. just hours before the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, is still withholding his communications related to that trip, according to a national watchdog group seeking the records for over two years.

American Oversight filed its lawsuit in June 2022, arguing the Texas Attorney General's office and the Texas Governor's office hadn't released all the communications they should have included in response to requests for the state officials' emails and text messages. After a district court judge and the Third Court of Appeals ruled the state needed to provide the court with documents justifying their rationale in withholding records, Paxton took the matter to the Texas Supreme Court, which could weigh in next.

The outcome of the case could have broader implications for Texans' access to public records.

"The lawsuit here is about protecting the public's right to know about what the highest officials in their state are doing," Emma Lewis, an attorney at American Oversight, said.

Lewis said Paxton and Abbott's arguments against releasing more documents are contrary to the state's public records law, which says the people "do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know."

Tom Leatherbury, director of the First Amendment Clinic at the SMU Dedman School of Law, called it a "very dangerous precedent" for Paxton and Abbott to claim forms of immunity from the Texas Public Information Act.

"The argument that no court can compel the governor to comply with the Texas Public Information Act is antithetical to democracy really," Leatherbury said. "The attorney general's arguments are a little less broad, but still would cripple the operation of the Texas Public Information Act in many instances where now it's effective." 

 

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As for the doctor telling patients not to answer the citizenship question, he's putting the hospitals' tax exempt status at risk. Not-for-profit hospitals and their employees are not supposed to participate in politics. For employees I mean in terms of representing the hospital. The doctor could make a political statement on his own but he's risking his job if he describes himself as a TCH doctor.

And even if the govt is ultimately unable to punish the hospital or healthcare system, it's stupid of the doctor to risk his employment by making a political statement. Now if he's not representing himself in any way as a TCH doctor, then I don't think he's in the wrong. Or he could advise patients on the law of ignoring the question and the lack of consequences but he shouldn't give his recommendation.

just my 2 cents.

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2 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


I think it’s been approved but it is voluntary to implement by school district. I’m sure there are others more knowledgeable here who can tell me if I’m wrong.

"Voluntary" meaning that there is a financial incentive to use the Bible curriculum.  That financial incentive is $0 state funding if you don't implement it.

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3 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

"Voluntary" meaning that there is a financial incentive to use the Bible curriculum.  That financial incentive is $0 state funding if you don't implement it.

Abbott has already wrapped his hands around the throat of public education and choked it for going on 6 years (no funding increases....despite significant inflation and increased population).  He has shown, simply and directly, that public schools must do EXACTLY as he says (all Jesus, all the time, for example) or he will simply cut off their funding.

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15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Abbott has already wrapped his hands around the throat of public education and choked it for going on 6 years (no funding increases....despite significant inflation and increased population).  He has shown, simply and directly, that public schools must do EXACTLY as he says (all Jesus, all the time, for example) or he will simply cut off their funding.

Well they had to pay for those sole source camps on the border for troops some how.

That is such a sweet deal for trump. Get the states to pay for a federal policy, and then give them no positions.

And those camps are not cheap at all.

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1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

"Voluntary" meaning that there is a financial incentive to use the Bible curriculum.  That financial incentive is $0 state funding if you don't implement it.

Understand that the state of Texas has started developing its own curricula and teaching materials. Right now they are just in a competitive market with the approved private educational literature companies, but already at a decent discount from their offerings.  Wouldn’t take much for a quick shift into compulsory use, if the cost difference isn’t compelling enough. 

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I don’t see where that article touches on the idea of financial incentives for elementary schools that incorporate the Bible into their curriculum. Again, I’m not doubting it, but I want my outrage to be fact-based and not internet-speculation-based.
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I don’t see where that article touches on the idea of financial incentives for elementary schools that incorporate the Bible into their curriculum. Again, I’m not doubting it, but I want my outrage to be fact-based and not internet-speculation-based.

The incentive is currently starting at $60/student.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/education/texas-state-board-of-education-public-school-curriculum-biblical-references/269-33dae414-9316-48bd-a6a1-f3dd87a981b9
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2 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

And when they've been starving schools of funds and will deepen that with vouchers, ANY source of funds will be jumped at. From the article:

 

The curriculum is optional for Texas public schools. They do not have to opt in, but a financial incentive exists if they choose to. If they do opt in, the state would give the district an extra $60 per student.

"These budget-strapped districts may be looking to anything to help bring a few extra dollars into these very tight budget situations that they find themselves in," said Kelsey Kling, a government relations specialist and policy analyst for the Texas American Federation of Teachers.

In recent weeks across the state, Molina said districts have been looking at cutting expenses and programs to ensure they can pay teachers and bills, and give students a quality education experience.

"At this time, that's the only way to get a little bit of extra money for their school districts," Molina said. "We are seeing school districts passing by. It deficits, trying to figure out how they're going to ensure that their schools stay open, that their educators aren't rushed out of education in a state where we already have a teacher shortage, not just with the teachers this year, but of a shortage of people wanting to come into education because of all of the different burdens that are being put on our educators at this time."

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20 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And when they've been starving schools of funds and will deepen that with vouchers, ANY source of funds will be jumped at. From the article:

 

The curriculum is optional for Texas public schools. They do not have to opt in, but a financial incentive exists if they choose to. If they do opt in, the state would give the district an extra $60 per student.

"These budget-strapped districts may be looking to anything to help bring a few extra dollars into these very tight budget situations that they find themselves in," said Kelsey Kling, a government relations specialist and policy analyst for the Texas American Federation of Teachers.

In recent weeks across the state, Molina said districts have been looking at cutting expenses and programs to ensure they can pay teachers and bills, and give students a quality education experience.

"At this time, that's the only way to get a little bit of extra money for their school districts," Molina said. "We are seeing school districts passing by. It deficits, trying to figure out how they're going to ensure that their schools stay open, that their educators aren't rushed out of education in a state where we already have a teacher shortage, not just with the teachers this year, but of a shortage of people wanting to come into education because of all of the different burdens that are being put on our educators at this time."

That is beyond fucked up.  Straight up bribing school districts to violate the separation of church and state.

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23 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who spoke at a pro-Trump rally in Washington, D.C. just hours before the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, is still withholding his communications related to that trip, according to a national watchdog group seeking the records for over two years.

American Oversight filed its lawsuit in June 2022, arguing the Texas Attorney General's office and the Texas Governor's office hadn't released all the communications they should have included in response to requests for the state officials' emails and text messages. After a district court judge and the Third Court of Appeals ruled the state needed to provide the court with documents justifying their rationale in withholding records, Paxton took the matter to the Texas Supreme Court, which could weigh in next.

The outcome of the case could have broader implications for Texans' access to public records.

"The lawsuit here is about protecting the public's right to know about what the highest officials in their state are doing," Emma Lewis, an attorney at American Oversight, said.

Lewis said Paxton and Abbott's arguments against releasing more documents are contrary to the state's public records law, which says the people "do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know."

Tom Leatherbury, director of the First Amendment Clinic at the SMU Dedman School of Law, called it a "very dangerous precedent" for Paxton and Abbott to claim forms of immunity from the Texas Public Information Act.

"The argument that no court can compel the governor to comply with the Texas Public Information Act is antithetical to democracy really," Leatherbury said. "The attorney general's arguments are a little less broad, but still would cripple the operation of the Texas Public Information Act in many instances where now it's effective." 

 

By early 2027 that’s going to be Senator Ken Paxton to you. 

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1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

They're doing something similar in high schools. The state introduced some new US History curriculum for 11th graders and framed it as free lessons that would help struggling readers prepare for the STAAR test. Of course, it was developed by William Bennett's organization. Usually my district is pretty good about sniffing out and avoiding this bs from the state, but they fell for it hook, line, and sinker. So back in September, all US History teachers had to go to a one-day training on how to use these materials and they come with required benchmark tests for students. So more conservative propaganda in classrooms, but this time with the added bonus of more standardized tests!

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6 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

They're doing something similar in high schools. The state introduced some new US History curriculum for 11th graders and framed it as free lessons that would help struggling readers prepare for the STAAR test. Of course, it was developed by William Bennett's organization. Usually my district is pretty good about sniffing out and avoiding this bs from the state, but they fell for it hook, line, and sinker. So back in September, all US History teachers had to go to a one-day training on how to use these materials and they come with required benchmark tests for students. So more conservative propaganda in classrooms, but this time with the added bonus of more standardized tests!

Assuming they talk about how slavery was actually a good thing for black people?

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"This is really about cultural awareness," Maynard said, adding that a lot of books reference biblical and Christian stories. "This is about literature and really preparing a student to consume literature on a much broader scale."


https://www.statesman.com/story/news/education/2024/11/22/texas-approves-controversial-school-lessons-with-bible-stories/76489897007/

Interesting that the same people who are banning hundreds of books about sex, gender, race, and our unpleasant history, somehow feel that reading the Bible in public elementary schools is necessary for teaching literature.

Frisco ISD has banned Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, 1984, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea…to name a few.

But sure, let’s introduce a book to elementary school kids that discusses topics like rape, murder, slavery, adultery, and eternal damnation…because they need to learn literature.
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13 hours ago, Captainant said:

And when they've been starving schools of funds and will deepen that with vouchers, ANY source of funds will be jumped at. From the article:

 

The curriculum is optional for Texas public schools. They do not have to opt in, but a financial incentive exists if they choose to. If they do opt in, the state would give the district an extra $60 per student.

"These budget-strapped districts may be looking to anything to help bring a few extra dollars into these very tight budget situations that they find themselves in," said Kelsey Kling, a government relations specialist and policy analyst for the Texas American Federation of Teachers.

In recent weeks across the state, Molina said districts have been looking at cutting expenses and programs to ensure they can pay teachers and bills, and give students a quality education experience.

"At this time, that's the only way to get a little bit of extra money for their school districts," Molina said. "We are seeing school districts passing by. It deficits, trying to figure out how they're going to ensure that their schools stay open, that their educators aren't rushed out of education in a state where we already have a teacher shortage, not just with the teachers this year, but of a shortage of people wanting to come into education because of all of the different burdens that are being put on our educators at this time."

I’ll give them $100/student to opt out.

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"This is really about cultural awareness," Maynard said, adding that a lot of books reference biblical and Christian stories. "This is about literature and really preparing a student to consume literature on a much broader scale."


https://www.statesman.com/story/news/education/2024/11/22/texas-approves-controversial-school-lessons-with-bible-stories/76489897007/

Interesting that the same people who are banning hundreds of books about sex, gender, race, and our unpleasant history, somehow feel that reading the Bible in public elementary schools is necessary for teaching literature.

Frisco ISD has banned Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, 1984, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea…to name a few.

But sure, let’s introduce a book to elementary school kids that discusses topics like rape, murder, slavery, adultery, and eternal damnation…because they need to learn literature.
At least FISD opted out of using the Bluebird Learning curriculum.
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4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Ken Paxton vows to shut down Texas church's homeless ministry in new suit

The Texas attorney general, a Southern Baptist, has a history of suing organizations that seemingly don't align with his religious and political beliefs.

 

https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/ken-paxton-austin-church-lawsuit-19946766.php

That is real Christian of him.

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Ken Paxton vows to shut down Texas church's homeless ministry in new suit

The Texas attorney general, a Southern Baptist, has a history of suing organizations that seemingly don't align with his religious and political beliefs.

 
https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/ken-paxton-austin-church-lawsuit-19946766.php

Got to get that abused foster kid to homeless adult pipeline intact to stoke fears and not try to solve complex issues.
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9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Ken Paxton vows to shut down Texas church's homeless ministry in new suit

The Texas attorney general, a Southern Baptist, has a history of suing organizations that seemingly don't align with his religious and political beliefs.

 

https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/ken-paxton-austin-church-lawsuit-19946766.php

Target cashier inclusively wishing customers "Happy Holidays" = War on Christians 

Suing Christians for practicing Christianity = that's different though

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