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  On 2/25/2021 at 7:19 AM, royiv said:

Have you spent much time in CS? It’s very, very conservative compared to Denver. It’s not exactly progressive.

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Yeah, admittedly I have only vacationed in the area and spent most of our time in Manitou Springs and up highway 24.  So maybe my characterization is way off base.  But we did go to some restaurants in the downtown area and it felt like a decent scene to me.  

 

Also, part of Austin's success has been its being a liberal city in a conservative state, attracting businesses through the conservative politics and young people through the liberal.  Maybe the same could hold true if the state is liberal and the city is conservative?  IDK, just spitballing.

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  On 2/25/2021 at 1:41 PM, DonkeyCigars said:

You called out my post as if I was being dismissive. I am saying that Bentonville's development and growth and calling it new/modern/clean like a Frisco full of Arky grads was a GOOD thing.

But, beyond that, I've been to Fort Smith. No Thanks!

Seriously, I did some consulting out there. Funny story, I ended up staying a week longer than planned and I had to buy a golf shirt. I go with a coworker to the one Sam's Clubhouse in town and it became very clear and evident that this is where all the executives shop. Everyone had been wearing the same "business casual" clothes, in different colors, and golf shirts that this Sam's was hocking. 

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Cool.  That makes sense.

To your story, the area has always been very uniform until very recently.  The (un)official uniform at WMT was khaki pants, blazer, with blue shirt.  I think I remember the Greg Norman golf polo's at that Sam's you're talking about.  They got some big diverted buy and everyone in town had one.  The area has become more "quirky" in a good way.  The art scene has really helped with that.  It's kind of like Asheville in that regard but with a bigger corporate presence.  (Asheville has none and is basically hippies and upscale retirees.)

As for Colorado Springs, it's very evangelical.  Hard pass.

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  On 2/25/2021 at 2:41 PM, LABEVO said:
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Ha they had Columbus, Ohio in the top 7 for Tech 

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Tech Job Postings: 3,277 (14th)

Average Tech Salary: $92,017 (17th)

Cost of living index: 70.92

While Columbus, Ohio may not be on your radar, it’s popped up on a lot of other people’s radar. As a growing tech hub, people are starting to see the appeal of the Buckeye state’s capital.

Home to Ohio State, you’ll never lack for football talk in Columbus. You shouldn’t lack for a job either, as it ranks 14th for tech job postings and has the 17th best average salary.

With a solid cost of living index, Columbus is another city where you can live well with the money you make. You just have to be ready for a little snow now and then.

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  On 2/19/2021 at 2:23 PM, CooterBrown said:

There's one thing that attracts companies above all else...the availability of potential employees.  A few years ago, there was an article that had polled companies on why they relocated and tax cuts and benefits didn't even make the top 10.  Far and away the number one answer was it was a place that attracted the employees they needed.

I think driving that would be a solid education base from K-12 (attractive to families) and higher education (multiple universities with graduates to draw from).  Say what you will about the shit pockets of schools, overall, the Austin area has some really strong performers in the K-12 area.  Obviously, Texas is the big dog for higher education but there's also many other universities within a short distance constantly pumping out graduates looking to move to Austin.

What'll be interesting is that if remote working is here to stay, will you see any more big boom cities built on tech companies with the exception of those with manufacturing?  Future companies may just all be HQ'd in Delaware or offshore with the majority of employees remote. 

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Just found this thread and am in total agreement about education.   One place I am very familiar with has a great amount of competition in the pre-K-12 education.  That is McKinney.  My wife and brand new baby moved to Sherman, which is 35 miles north of McKinney, in 1996.  Mckinney was nothing, probably 34,000 people.  Three years later we found ourselves with another baby and we moved to McKinney.  I couldn’t stand the wasted dollars on extra counselors, admin. 70 million $ football stadium, etc. in the ISD.  I was so happy to move to Alaska, but the reality is the number one factor in the excessive spending was competition from Frisco ISD.  

Sometime since I left in 18 Mckinney topped 200,000 residents.  McKinney has a whole bunch of land still to be developed.  

Frisco has all of the pro sports you could want, right next to McKinney, and between the two districts, you have more than enough college and career ready young people.

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% of population with graduate degree........................Austin Msa.  16%.....McKinney.....15%

%.  of population with at least bachelors degree        Austin.........46.........McKinney.....47

nearly identical

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  On 4/16/2021 at 4:28 PM, orangecat92 said:

% of population with graduate degree........................Austin Msa.  16%.....McKinney.....15%

%.  of population with at least bachelors degree        Austin.........46.........McKinney.....47

nearly identical

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People are strongly encouraged to move to McKinney.

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I visited Charleston, WV last year before the pandemic.  Downtown was clean, and had a decent little bar and restaurant area.   Right on the river.  Really beautiful with the mountains, bridges, and river.  Four distinct seasons.  State Capitol.  Downsides: even with airport 5 min from downtown, can still be tough to get to.  The area (and state) are so poor and there are addition problems all over the place.  Would need a massive influx of cash (like mentioned before with Bentonville and Raleigh).  

Really pretty and West Virginians are good folks if you get to know them.  I could see it growing up eventually, but would need a massive company or industry to develop there.

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  On 4/16/2021 at 8:25 PM, Texas St. Armadillos said:
The area (and state) are so poor and there are addition problems all over the place.  Would need a massive influx of cash (like mentioned before with Bentonville and Raleigh).  




Effin common core, no good bullshit
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Richmond--was cheap, had colleges, a river, outdoor shit to do, concerts outdoors and indoors, lots of art and art/musicians, frisbee golf, lots of small, local restaurants/shops, breweries out the wazoo and super bikeable.  I may retire there.  

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  On 4/18/2021 at 5:59 AM, NIUHuskies said:

When does Reno/Carson City get into the game?

Other cities to consider:

Providence

Bloomington, Indiana 

Mobile, Alabama

Rapid City, SD

Albuquerque 

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Idk if this is innocent naivete or intentional smartassery but either way it's great and made me chuckle so have a rep.

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Look for: jobs, education, tax breaks, segregation, no major natural disasters...

Birmingham might just be the winner. If there isn't one or two already, I expect a chip mfg to move in to support the auto industry.

I don't know why Raleigh-Durham hasn't taken off.

I guess the shortcoming for both is limited cultural/arts options...

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  On 4/17/2021 at 9:46 PM, billfromlaketravis said:
Sounds like Missoula is next. 

Pretty much from what I have heard. GWe built a new house in Boise in 2015 for $122 a sq ft. Could probably sell now for about $300+ a sq ft. Micron corporate headquarters are about 3 miles away, as is Albertsons, big HP factory 10 miles away and the Cali folks are coming in looking to buy with cash since inventory is so limited.
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  On 2/25/2021 at 2:45 PM, gurt said:
Yeah, admittedly I have only vacationed in the area and spent most of our time in Manitou Springs and up highway 24.  So maybe my characterization is way off base.  But we did go to some restaurants in the downtown area and it felt like a decent scene to me.  
 
Also, part of Austin's success has been its being a liberal city in a conservative state, attracting businesses through the conservative politics and young people through the liberal.  Maybe the same could hold true if the state is liberal and the city is conservative?  IDK, just spitballing.


CS is a conservative city in a conservative state, Denver/I25N are the outliers
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  On 4/19/2021 at 7:43 AM, shnsajax said:


Pretty much from what I have heard. GWe built a new house in Boise in 2015 for $122 a sq ft. Could probably sell now for about $300+ a sq ft. Micron corporate headquarters are about 3 miles away, as is Albertsons, big HP factory 10 miles away and the Cali folks are coming in looking to buy with cash since inventory is so limited.

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There was a recent Planet Money on the housing market in Missoula. Basically what you described. California people are snatching up everything with cash offers. 

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  On 4/19/2021 at 3:10 AM, Larry T. Spider said:
1960 340,887   4.6%
1970 300,910   −11.7%
1980 284,413   −5.5%
1990 265,968   −6.5%
2000 242,840   −8.7%
2010 212,237   −12.6%
2019 (est.) 209,403 [3] −1.3%


Birmingham has actually been shrinking.

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Probably because it's a shithole.  We've rebuilt entire nations since WWII and we can't get most of the Southeast part of this country to read.  There's a reason for that.  Stupid people are always gonna be stupid.  

Boise has some potential though. 

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Tennessee really does have some great towns.  But if there's any truth to those corporate studies that say #1, #2, and #3 reasons for moving/establishing a physical presence in a city is talent, talent, and talent.  Then Tennessee better put on some kinda show, 'cause they ain't got 50 people in that whole fucking state can complete a sentence. 

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Cool topic to discuss and argue about.

I went back to the OP to get some parameters and he mentions Austin starting about 1980, so I took that cue to look at the Austin metro's population then versus now to get a grip on what kind of change would need to be replicated.

The five-county Austin MSA that we know today was about 585,000 in 1980 but it was already on a hot streak having grown 47 percent in the previous decade from 400,000 in 1970. In 2019, we were 2.23 million and were likely pushing close to 2.30 million by the time the 2020 Census rolled around.

I'm not so sure any of the candidates in that ballpark population range of 600,000 can nearly quadruple in size over the next 40 years, so I decided to just look at any broad metropolitan region between half a million and one million that could have a shot at hitting two million by 2060. Here is a list of candidates that are in that population range that are already on a population hot streak (like Austin was in 1980) of roughly double digit growth over the last decade, as well as the major economic development assets that I'm aware of which could be growth drivers.

Omaha 986,007 9.31%  Nebraska & capital city are close
McAllen/Edinburg 933,340 11.68%  Trade/UTRGV/what about water?
Des Moines/Ames 877,991 12.85%  Iowa State/capital/back office
Boise City 831,235 19.17%  Boise State/capital city/tech
Charleston 802,122 20.69%  Citadel/port/tourism?
Colorado Springs 745,791 15.52%  AFA/swallowed by Denver
Spokane/Coeur d'Alene 734,218 12.40%  ????
Reno/Carson City 637,973 10.06%  Nevada/capital city
Huntsville AL 624,427 9.28%  UA Huntsville/aerospace
Palm Bay/Melbourne/Titusville 601,942 10.78%  Kennedy Space Center
Savannah 583,882 11.04%  Savannah State/port
Myrtle Beach/Conway 553,505 26.69%  Coastal Carolina
Pensacola 539,292 10.67%  Pensacola State
Fayetteville/Springdale 534,904 21.54%  Arky/Walmart

I'm kind of wary of a lot of those coastal areas, because their growth is probably being driven by retirees and tourism, plus rising sea levels. I just don't see that as being a sustainable situation but could be wrong.

The bolded ones look at first glance like they might have the best long-term prospects for being the "next Austin" based on this simple assessment (I discounted Colo Springs because it's going to pretty much lose its identity and just be another lump in the agglomeration spreading along the Front Range that's completely dominated by Denver). And honestly I kinda don't see it happening in Omaha, Des Moines, or Reno/Carson City for various reasons, especially Omaha. Reno just seems to be getting some spillover due to proximity to the Bay Area, and I don't think the University of Nevada and tax breaks for Californian companies will carry them for long. Des Moines, while served by a pretty good school up the road a bit in Ames, seems like it's getting some buzz in the Midwest and is getting some back office business from the Chicago area.

That leaves us with the already frequently cited triad of NW Arkansas, Huntsville, and Boise. I think all are going to continue to boom for all the reasons listed by others, but only NW Arkansas is backed by a major state university and the presence of a corporate behemoth that (if diversified) could sustain the necessary economic spinoff to drive growth for the next 40 years and reach 2 million by 2060. But, of course, Wal-Mart could go the ways of Sears & Roebuck if they're not careful.

That's my two cents and I'll fight you if you disagree.

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And honestly I kinda don't see it happening in Omaha, Des Moines, or Reno/Carson City for various reasons, especially Omaha. Reno just seems to be getting some spillover due to proximity to the Bay Area, and I don't think the University of Nevada and tax breaks for Californian companies will carry them for long. Des Moines, while served by a pretty good school up the road a bit in Ames, seems like it's getting some buzz in the Midwest and is getting some back office business from the Chicago area.

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I spent the last month in Omaha on a project. I stayed in/around the "Capital District" and it just was not happening. I don't believe this city is the next one either. The biggest employers are like an agriculture company, hospitals, and a railroad.

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  On 4/19/2021 at 9:15 PM, DonkeyCigars said:

I spent the last month in Omaha on a project. I stayed in/around the "Capital District" and it just was not happening. I don't believe this city is the next one either. The biggest employers are like an agriculture company, hospitals, and a railroad.

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I really don't know anything about Omaha since I've never been there. Pretty much the only image in my mind of that city comes from the opening winter scene of that Jack Nicholson movie "About Schmidt" that makes it look like one of the most dreary places on the planet.

 

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  On 4/19/2021 at 9:03 PM, bolverk said:

Cool topic to discuss and argue about.

I went back to the OP to get some parameters and he mentions Austin starting about 1980, so I took that cue to look at the Austin metro's population then versus now to get a grip on what kind of change would need to be replicated.

The five-county Austin MSA that we know today was about 585,000 in 1980 but it was already on a hot streak having grown 47 percent in the previous decade from 400,000 in 1970. In 2019, we were 2.23 million and were likely pushing close to 2.30 million by the time the 2020 Census rolled around.

I'm not so sure any of the candidates in that ballpark population range of 600,000 can nearly quadruple in size over the next 40 years, so I decided to just look at any broad metropolitan region between half a million and one million that could have a shot at hitting two million by 2060. Here is a list of candidates that are in that population range that are already on a population hot streak (like Austin was in 1980) of roughly double digit growth over the last decade, as well as the major economic development assets that I'm aware of which could be growth drivers.

Omaha 986,007 9.31%  Nebraska & capital city are close
McAllen/Edinburg 933,340 11.68%  Trade/UTRGV/what about water?
Des Moines/Ames 877,991 12.85%  Iowa State/capital/back office
Boise City 831,235 19.17%  Boise State/capital city/tech
Charleston 802,122 20.69%  Citadel/port/tourism?
Colorado Springs 745,791 15.52%  AFA/swallowed by Denver
Spokane/Coeur d'Alene 734,218 12.40%  ????
Reno/Carson City 637,973 10.06%  Nevada/capital city
Huntsville AL 624,427 9.28%  UA Huntsville/aerospace
Palm Bay/Melbourne/Titusville 601,942 10.78%  Kennedy Space Center
Savannah 583,882 11.04%  Savannah State/port
Myrtle Beach/Conway 553,505 26.69%  Coastal Carolina
Pensacola 539,292 10.67%  Pensacola State
Fayetteville/Springdale 534,904 21.54%  Arky/Walmart

I'm kind of wary of a lot of those coastal areas, because their growth is probably being driven by retirees and tourism, plus rising sea levels. I just don't see that as being a sustainable situation but could be wrong.

The bolded ones look at first glance like they might have the best long-term prospects for being the "next Austin" based on this simple assessment (I discounted Colo Springs because it's going to pretty much lose its identity and just be another lump in the agglomeration spreading along the Front Range that's completely dominated by Denver). And honestly I kinda don't see it happening in Omaha, Des Moines, or Reno/Carson City for various reasons, especially Omaha. Reno just seems to be getting some spillover due to proximity to the Bay Area, and I don't think the University of Nevada and tax breaks for Californian companies will carry them for long. Des Moines, while served by a pretty good school up the road a bit in Ames, seems like it's getting some buzz in the Midwest and is getting some back office business from the Chicago area.

That leaves us with the already frequently cited triad of NW Arkansas, Huntsville, and Boise. I think all are going to continue to boom for all the reasons listed by others, but only NW Arkansas is backed by a major state university and the presence of a corporate behemoth that (if diversified) could sustain the necessary economic spinoff to drive growth for the next 40 years and reach 2 million by 2060. But, of course, Wal-Mart could go the ways of Sears & Roebuck if they're not careful.

That's my two cents and I'll fight you if you disagree.

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Most excellent write up, especially in regards to the bolded markets.  For a market to boom like we're talking about, you need industry.  Austin was a state capital and had tech.  Atlanta (also a state capital) had numerous major corporations.  Markets like Charleston (which I love), really have no industry outside of the port and taking care of olds.  You'll get market growth but a bifurcated economy with rich retirees and service workers mixed in with health care for said olds.

That leaves really just Boise and Northwest Arkansas.  If Boise can garner enough CA transplants, they could have a thriving tech industry.  As the resident expert on Northwest Arkansas, their challenge is just what you mentioned in that they need to diversify their economy.  They've known that for years and have had some successes and failures.  (You forgot to mention both Tyson and JB Hunt being there but I could make the case they're also in that WMT universe to a degree.  The economy is either WMT or selling stuff to WMT or moving stuff for WMT.)  They've made gains in tourism and art, though.  Desperately trying for tech start ups with not much success.

As far as the affordability question, if you're wanting to live in actual Bentonville, then you will be in for a rude awakening.  However, it's still somewhat affordable if you're OK with a cow pasture subdivision house surrounded by some strip malls.  Those are still relatively cheap compared to most major markets.  

 

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  On 4/22/2021 at 4:28 PM, Cajun said:

As long as people from Waco live in Waco, I will never regret "sleeping" on Waco.

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Yeah, that's kind of actually a thing about why some communities progress and grow more than others beyond any economic development assets or other competitive advantages. The local culture has to allow for and promote openness to new ideas, innovation, and outsiders. Otherwise a community will just stagnate and rot on the vine.

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Oh no Bolvy, I'm not talking about "some communities", I'm talking about Waco and the people who are from there.  

Specifically Waco.

I can't even hear the name of that place without getting the creep shiver down my spine.

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  On 2/19/2021 at 6:20 AM, DonkeyCigars said:

I thought it was going to be Nashville. Still could be, but COVID-19 definitely seemed to slow their momentum. Still with Amazon bringing in the de facto HQ2 lite after the Long Island City fiasco as well as it becoming a destination for young, smart southeastern types who are too hip for Buckhead/Atlanta, it was getting a lot of Old Austin, buzz and energy, especially around the Gulch from what I say 2017-2019. They are still only ~700k population and could get to 1mm like Austin I guess, but they already have major sports, so do they count?

Boise I mentioned on another thread has historically been hamstrung with having a population, and university, which is mediocre. Boise State is ranked like a Texas Tech I think (or worse). But maybe with the expats in California bringing some of those Stanford/UCX brains they can build out (or maybe have already?) a solid foundation. One thing that I think has helped Austin grow the past 30 years is the trajectory of growth, businesses, etc. matched the growth in UT evolving from a decent/average state school to a globally ranked reputation. Boise just doesn't have that foundation and a young, smart (and cheap labor) person factory.

Salt Lake City does. So I guess my vote goes to SLC. though it's metro pop. is already like 1.3mm, and they've already carved out a nice little niche reputation in tech, so not sure that counts.

In both Utah and Idaho's case, while still very liberal compared to Texas, there are definitely conservative areas and way more political diversity than in California which is probably integral for the next boom city (e.g. favorable tax situations, pro-business, etc. while still being socially liberal and Patagonia-vest friendly).

I thought Omaha or Des Moines would eventually grow up a little bit as well and get some legacy modernization religion but they don't seem to make any noise outside of like the insurance industry or food industries.

I've also heard both Columbia and Charleston, SC are doing well with attracting young, smart folks and becoming a growing area in the same vein as Nashville, in that it's an Atlanta alternative for people who don't want to deal with what Atlanta has become/is becoming. CapGemini just opened a world-class delivery center in Columbia which rivals anything I've seen in any "real" city, for example and I know it's a school that is on nobody in Texas' radar or relationship/social circle, but apparently U of SoCarolina is a pretty decent school with a well respected undergrad business school.

I wish I knew or had a strong point of view on the next Austin though, because I'd buy up some property and retire in 20 years.

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Des Moines continues to grow steadily and has a growing tech sector.

It's not the next Austin, but it's surprisingly happening and out punches slightly larger similar metros, like Omaha specifically, from a cultural standpoint.

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  On 4/16/2021 at 8:25 PM, Texas St. Armadillos said:

I visited Charleston, WV last year before the pandemic.  Downtown was clean, and had a decent little bar and restaurant area.   Right on the river.  Really beautiful with the mountains, bridges, and river.  Four distinct seasons.  State Capitol.  Downsides: even with airport 5 min from downtown, can still be tough to get to.  The area (and state) are so poor and there are addition problems all over the place.  Would need a massive influx of cash (like mentioned before with Bentonville and Raleigh).  

Really pretty and West Virginians are good folks if you get to know them.  I could see it growing up eventually, but would need a massive company or industry to develop there.

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I've been through Charleston, and while I think you nail it's upside, I think geography makes it hard to expand.  It's just so damn rugged in that area that expanding it would be tough as hell.

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@CajunHeard this a couple of days ago for the first time and thought of you.

[Verse 1]
It was the dead of summer, I was only 19
Dead broke as usual, my buddy Kevin and me
On a particularly dead weekend
We decided to hop on the bus and ride
Headin' on down to Austin town
Searchin' for a little light

[Verse 2]
We caught a greyhound bus for a non-stop trip
Shuffled back to the back where the AC is and it's cold as a crypt
Two seats up sat a man in a hoodie
Who looked at me like modern death
I may never know why, but within the hour
That poor man was dead

[Pre-Chorus]
And I said this prayer:
I said: "Lord...

[Chorus]
Don't let me die in Waco
Anywhere but there
I'd sooner die a Sooner or a dumbass Aggie
Than to go in the land of the Baylor Bear
Don't let me die in Waco
Bus driver, just drive
Well if I start to smell, just spray me with Febreze
But give me one more hour down on 35

[Verse 3]
We finally made it to Austin after that harrowing ride
Still searching for a lively weekend
To celebrate loving life
We found good reason, of an unlikely sort
Some lucky cuss had gone out partying
Just the night before

[Verse 4]
A drunken fall from a balcony that took a frat boy's life
His friends were all in mourning until we arrived
I said "It could be a whole lot worse, friends
For he died as he lived
A Longhorn proud, in Bevo's name
Hook 'em, amen."

[Chorus]
Don't let me die in Waco
Anywhere but there
I'd sooner die a Sooner or a dumbass Aggie
Than to go in the land of the Baylor Bear
Don't let me die in Waco
Bus driver, just drive
Well if I start to smell, just spray me with Febreze
But give me one more hour down on 35

[Chorus]
Don't let me die in Waco
Anywhere but there
I'd sooner die a Sooner or a dumbass Aggie
Than to go in the land of the Baylor Bear
Don't let me die in Waco
Bus driver, just drive
Well if I start to smell, just spray me with Febreze
But give me one more hour down on 35

[Outro]
Well if I start to smell, just spray me with Febreze
But give me one more hour down on 35
Lord, please

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I think Des Moines metro gained 100K in the last decade. Percentage wise, that was pretty massive growth.

I lived in Des Moines from ‘08-‘12 (and Ames the 5 years prior). Absolutely love that area.

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I’m impressed with San Antonio. A big city but the talent density, cost of living, etc is strong. Lots of startups are being funded there too

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  On 5/11/2021 at 6:26 PM, bolverk said:

Des Moines!!! @Al_4_ISU

(If anyone has a subscription, I'd appreciate you posting the article.)

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  On 5/12/2021 at 9:13 AM, LABEVO said:
I’m impressed with San Antonio. A big city but the talent density, cost of living, etc is strong. Lots of startups are being funded there too

The talent density is not strong. It barely exists. There’s a reason why San Antonio’s homegrown Rackspace, about a decade ago, announced they’d hire 5,000 tech positions locally and then had to move nearly every vacancy to Austin. There was no one to even fill them. They were even bussing staff down from Austin to SA daily to work positions that had to be onsite.
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  On 5/12/2021 at 12:54 PM, CooterBrown said:


The talent density is not strong. It barely exists. There’s a reason why San Antonio’s homegrown Rackspace, about a decade ago, announced they’d hire 5,000 tech positions locally and then had to move nearly every vacancy to Austin. There was no one to even fill them. They were even bussing staff down from Austin to SA daily to work positions that had to be onsite.

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I know next to nothing about the tech scene in SA. Do you see that situation changing in the future, given the cost of living in Austin and its proximity to us? It seems that it'd make sense for some operations to be shipped down there if they could grow/retain/attract the talent.

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I like San Antonio.  Have family and friends there.  Even lived there for a few stints in the 90's totaling about 15-18 months.  

But the whole "San Antonio is the next boom in America" thing is decades old already.  I've been hearing about it being the next tech center, the next hip city, the next real estate mecca, the next this, the next that.  It's fine the way it is and people there love it.  

San Antonio reminds me of what deGaulle said about Brazil.  "San Antonio has great potential.  And it always will."  

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  On 5/12/2021 at 12:54 PM, CooterBrown said:


The talent density is not strong. It barely exists. There’s a reason why San Antonio’s homegrown Rackspace, about a decade ago, announced they’d hire 5,000 tech positions locally and then had to move nearly every vacancy to Austin. There was no one to even fill them. They were even bussing staff down from Austin to SA daily to work positions that had to be onsite.

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i believed this until very recently. my view is in the past 2-3 years has changed a lot for the city.

the joke is that SA is closer to Austin than Houston is to itself. so even if SA struggles, i think proximity will drive positives for SA

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