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On one hand that is very impressive. On the other they are Arkansas so fuck them.

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Didn’t you have to be a giant when you went to sleep to be a “sleeping giant”?

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These guys just put theirs out few minutes ago, usually this time Monday nights:

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/baseball/bracketology

Kendall and those guys put in more pure analysis, but these guys seem to get the geography/snake pattern of the committee a bit better.  Still three weeks to go, but starting to see some consistency across all writers.  We'd pair in Supers with South Carolina/Charlotte/Clemson, doubt that happens but I'll take any of those matchups.  Very curious to see which "West Coast/Pac-12" site gets awarded that #8 super seed.  Probably don't deserve it but one is going out there for sure.  See how it blends in with us and TCU in terms of pairings in deeper rounds. 

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3 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Just saw this. I like most of the top 8 seeds except Notre Dame continues to remain, which is a farce. Tech and ND need to flip. 

Is Notre Dame on our side of the bracket? If so, I don’t mind them staying in the top 8.....with what we were paired up with in Omaha in 2018, yeah the college baseball gods owe us an easy win game 1 against someone like Notre Dame 

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57 minutes ago, Fletch said:

Is Notre Dame on our side of the bracket? If so, I don’t mind them staying in the top 8.....with what we were paired up with in Omaha in 2018, yeah the college baseball gods owe us an easy win game 1 against someone like Notre Dame 

With D1's latest projection Omaha would look like this:

(1) Arkansas vs (8) Arizona

(4) Mississippi State vs (5) TCU

 

(2) Vanderbilt vs (7) Notre Dame

(3) Texas vs (6) Tennessee 

 

And if any of those teams were to lose nothing would change except just swapping out the team that wins the super instead of one to the top 8 seeds.

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7 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

I read the little Twitter battle that ensued over that pronunciation and apparently in their little slice of couch burning world, that’s how they pronounce it. What makes it even dumber is the use of Grande. Let’s go with the whole Spanish spelling, yet call it “Ry-oh.”  

In that part of the country they also pronounce Garcia as gar-shuh. I can’t stand it.

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7 hours ago, chase25 said:

With D1's latest projection Omaha would look like this:

(1) Arkansas vs (8) Arizona

(4) Mississippi State vs (5) TCU

 

(2) Vanderbilt vs (7) Notre Dame

(3) Texas vs (6) Tennessee 

 

And if any of those teams were to lose nothing would change except just swapping out the team that wins the super instead of one to the top 8 seeds.

Would gladly take TN.  They are extremely beatable.

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The Twitter thread has a good question. The NCAA rules (used by NAIA) state that the run doesn't count if the third out is recorded by a runner being forced out. It does not say if the third out is on a forced runner prior to his reaching his forced base safely. 

If the umpires had ruled that the batter passed the runner on first and that was the out would/should the run have counted? Interesting thought exercise. 

Basically would that fall under being forced out? A forced runner being tagged does logically, but the guy behind him being out for passing him doesn't seem like it should. 

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10 hours ago, Cajun said:

Would gladly take TN.  They are extremely beatable.

Not to mention the whole “REAL UT!!!!!” Garbage they spout. It’d be great beating the fuck out of em. But are we worthy? They are an SEC team!!!! They might as well be a triple a team being in the sec and all

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10 hours ago, Cajun said:

Would gladly take TN.  They are extremely beatable.

Not to mention the whole “REAL UT!!!!!” Garbage they spout. It’d be great beating the fuck out of em. But are we worthy? They are an SEC team!!!! They might as well be a triple a team being in the sec and all

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Maybe the University of Tennessee is the real UT, okay?  I don't know why we constantly look down on other schools on here, especially those from the SEC.  Just because most of those schools are glorified community colleges producing half-wits, cheaters, and shitbags..I don't know why we call them out on here?  They're respectable places with nice looking school crests that sound all official 'n shit, okay?!? 

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9 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

The Twitter thread has a good question. The NCAA rules (used by NAIA) state that the run doesn't count if the third out is recorded by a runner being forced out. It does not say if the third out is on a forced runner prior to his reaching his forced base safely. 

If the umpires had ruled that the batter passed the runner on first and that was the out would/should the run have counted? Interesting thought exercise. 

Basically would that fall under being forced out? A forced runner being tagged does logically, but the guy behind him being out for passing him doesn't seem like it should. 

I think it would be a timing play.  If the batter-runner passes the runner, the batter is out, not the forced runner.  If R3 touches home before the pass then the run counts.

As to your first paragraph, I'm not sure I'm following you.  A forced runner is defined as a runner who must advance because of the batter-runner.  Once a forced runner has reached his next base, he's no longer a forced runner.

A somewhat related scenario that has always felt wrong to me is that a runner that fails to tag on a fly ball is not considered forced.  With runners on the corners and 1 out, on a caught fly ball, if R3 tags and touches home before the throw reaches 1st base to double off R1, the run still counts.

I've never been an umpire, so if I'm mistaken on anything, someone please correct me.

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11 hours ago, Lobo said:

Maybe the University of Tennessee is the real UT, okay?  I don't know why we constantly look down on other schools on here, especially those from the SEC.  Just because most of those schools are glorified community colleges producing half-wits, cheaters, and shitbags..I don't know why we call them out on here?  They're respectable places with nice looking school crests that sound all official 'n shit, okay?!? 

Don't forget that their co-eds put out just like girls at the really good academic schools.

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Oh I believe that.  The girls of the SEC do the yeoman’s sex work for the nation.  When I was going to undergrad at a small school in Florida, it was road trips to visit dormmate’s friends at UofF, Georgia, And Auburn that made me realize there was a whole other world of 20yo females out there that were down to clown simply because they were alive and away from home.  God bless ‘em

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I guess since it keeps coming up, shall we talk about possible spoilers on that list?  I mean, we're focused more on the Top 8 national seeds.  But there'll be some hand-wringing between about #12-#20.  What drama we looking for there?  

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Kendall Rogers' thoughts

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• One of the bigger questions coming into this year’s postseason field, with the unbalanced and different schedules across the country, how would the committee view hosts? Would it be more merit-based, or would it be more location-based? Clearly, the NCAA went with a combination of merit, and, well, straight RPI. Only Fairfield and Old Dominion are in the Top 15 and did not earn a host site. Fairfield had virtually no shot playing a Metro Atlantic-only schedule, while the Monarchs did not bid to host a regional. If the committee goes this strictly by RPI when it comes to the field of 64, it could be bad news for bubble teams with bad RPIs, with or without unbalanced schedules.

• South Carolina was the most interesting inclusion for me. If you look at the RPI, the Gamecocks seem like a no-brainer, right? But you have to go well beyond the RPI. Sure, the Gamecocks have an RPI of 15, but they’re 8-14 vs. RPI Top 25 and 12-15 vs. RPI Top 50. South Carolina has lost three-straight SEC series and finish with a road series against Kentucky and a home series against Tennessee. Win both series and the Gamecocks probably get back into position to ‘deserve’ a regional, but right now, they should have work to do. This is not a regional hosting resume at the moment.

• Ole Miss was another interesting inclusion for me, but certainly much more deserving than South Carolina, at least for now. The Rebels did lose righthanded pitcher Gunnar Hoglund for the season earlier this week, so it’s hard to see them finishing with a bang with Vandy at home this weekend and a road series at Georgia looming. However, the Rebels still have a 14-10 record in the league, along with a home series sweep over the Gamecocks. Furthermore, if the Rebels won three or four games the rest of the way, including the SEC tournament, they’d have 16-17 SEC wins. Those are solid marks. Ole Miss still has some work to do to earn a host in my eyes, but it’s right there for them.

• I didn’t like the fact the committee shut out Florida State and Louisville from even having a chance to host a regional. I ultimately think the committee will regret not giving FSU a host site opportunity. The Seminoles, yes, have an RPI of 40, but they have 17 wins in the ACC with a 6-2 mark vs. RPI Top 25 and 13-10 mark vs. RPI Top 50. FSU also has a road series win over a slam-dunk national seed in Notre Dame. Ole Miss has comparable metrics, but FSU has the edge over a team like South Carolina for certain. But then there’s that pesky RPI. This is a situation where the committee should’ve looked well beyond the RPI. Clearly it’s skewed, because ACC teams were forced to play a grueling 36-game conference schedule and limited to just 50 games overall. The RPI requires more cross-pollination between conferences to have much value as a tool for comparing ACC teams against teams in other conferences, so typical RPI guidelines for hosts should be set aside when evaluating the top teams in the ACC. As for U of L, it has 16 wins in the ACC right now and does have a head-to-head series win over Florida State at home. However, the Cards did not play a challenging, albeit short, nonconference slate, and the Top 25 RPI metrics don’t compare favorably to FSU and a few other teams. The Seminoles would be higher than Louisville in my pecking order, and the fact both missed the cut surprised me.

• I love that the committee put Louisiana Tech, Charlotte and Southern Miss all on the board. I expected one of those teams to miss the cut — likely Charlotte or USM. But I’m glad to see all three on there because all three have had terrific seasons. Now, we’ll see which of those three teams end the season in the Top 16 as hosts, and that could depend on which club has the deepest and most impressive run in the conference tournament in a couple of weeks. It’s worth noting that Charlotte bid to host in Gastonia, N.C., at the FUSE Ballpark there. The ballpark holds anywhere from 4-5K with standing room only included. Clearly, Charlotte would love to host at its home ballpark, but that isn’t in the cards this spring. Charlotte hopes that will be an option sooner rather than later, however.

• Color me a huge fan of Gonzaga being included as a potential host site. Oregon State to Spokane as a No. 2 seed, anyone? One of the things every committee has reiterated is this idea that mid-majors need to go out and schedule tough teams, and in many cases, win those games, to be considered as hosts. Well, the Zags did just that in non-conference play, hitting the road to face Texas Tech and taking two of three in a weekend series against TCU, which was one of our top eight seeds earlier this week. It’s hard to make much more of a statement than that. Gonzaga has dominated the WCC thus far, though a huge series against San Diego looms the final weekend of the regular season. Gonzaga’s RPI is sitting at 23, so it doesn’t have the luxury of many slip-ups the rest of the way. But that non-conference SOS of four will ring loud between now and Selection Monday. Good job, committee.

• Congrats to Pittsburgh for being selected as one of the 20 potential regional host sites. Though the Panthers only are able to allow a few hundred fans to attend regional games because of COVID protocols and capacity regulations, hosting a regional is still a massive accomplishment for a program that was universally picked to finish near or at the bottom of the ACC standings. This will be Pitt’s fourth NCAA tournament appearance in program history, and certainly would be its first regional host.

 

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Some stream links:

Arkansas vs. Tennessee: https://mygoodstream.pw/channels/vip2.html?id=eyJjdCI6Ik9jR2FZVWFnVnJPMHNIOFFNaG9yelRGcTZHUHlxRVIyYWk0SmlWcExBem1YU0d6YTRXOW9VZ0NlSGpRcmcxTGNSM0tmQVdRSWZTTVNQMkFoVGo1Ykk5cy92YWtRRGxDQW4rK2hJZmsvVkdrPSIsIml2IjoiM2RjNzYwZDljYjlkNzQ4NjNhZDM1NjM0MGRjNGMxYmYiLCJzIjoiZTQ3MGM0YzAzYjA0YWQ3MSJ9

Baylor-OSU: http://mygoodstream.pw/espnp/watch.php?id=b047bc77-3a2b-47a7-a22b-501d025cb86b

KSU-KU: http://mygoodstream.pw/espnp/watch.php?id=85f9fa65-3e3e-4b67-8c4f-5569d7b8be98

TCU-ULM: http://mygoodstream.pw/espnp/watch.php?id=80ddce19-041e-4ad0-aba3-267e93d545ea

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Missouri up 12-8 on Miss State in the top of the 9th. 

Missouri would take the series 2-1 if they can finish this off and really should have won the Friday night game too. This would be a very bizarre result especially since it's on the road. Missouri was 13-32 coming into this series. 

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Aggy bringing the lol at a pop-up screw up. Auburn gonna take the series if it holds up (7-4 in bottom of the 6th).

Aggy fighting for position in the SEC bottom four in this Auburn series.

lol. Aggy error at third - now tigger has bases loaded with no outs

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