The Cloak Room is a terrible place.

[Dbeasy 15042]

15 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

You have to be a complete loser to spend any time posting about politics online.  

Yes, it’s much better to have a democracy with completely uninformed and uninvolved citizens who don’t care and who can be taken advantage of by the ruling class. What losers these people who care about politics.  

[Willfully Horn 8002]

On 11/16/2022 at 6:34 AM, Frank Drebin said:

You have to be a complete loser to spend any time posting about politics online.  

Boy, sit down and keep quiet

Surly cannot have the largest political forum in the State without folks talking politics. 
 

Edited November 18, 2022 by Willfully Horn

[Cornpop 230]

Largest jizz jar circle jerk in the state. Lmao

[Hate 20106]

49 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Boy, sit down and keep quiet

Surly cannot have the largest political forum in the State without folks talking politics. 
 

That's kind of like having the largest boil on your butt.

[Willfully Horn 8002]

52 minutes ago, Hate said:

That's kind of like having the largest boil on your butt.

Call Texas Highways Magazine.

What bothers folks, I think, is that politics is discussed at all. Why is that?

Edited to answer my own question: Because folks prefer to vote in blissful ignorance. You’re welcome to prove me wrong, but, please, show your work.

Edited November 18, 2022 by Willfully Horn

[Frank Drebin 5660]

6 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Call Texas Highways Magazine.

What bothers folks, I think, is that politics is discussed at all. Why is that?

Edited to answer my own question: Because folks prefer to vote in blissful ignorance. You’re welcome to prove me wrong, but, please, show your work.

I’m sure there is a lot of rational thought and reasoned discourse in the Cloak Room.  

Edited November 18, 2022 by Frank Drebin

[royiv 9261]

3 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

I’m sure there is a lot of rational thought and reasoned discourse in the Cloak Room.  

Tell me you're GQP without telling me you're GQP. 

[Neonmoon 38129]

People that don’t like the CR are people that are uncomfortable with people disagreeing with them. For example, The CR is full of lawyers, finance, doctors, and tech people because they’re used to having to back up their arguments/beliefs/findings with facts and reason. 

[Frank Drebin 5660]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

People that don’t like the CR are people that are uncomfortable with people disagreeing with them. For example, The CR is full of lawyers, finance, doctors, and tech people because they’re used to having to back up their arguments/beliefs/findings with facts and reason. 

Yeah, that’s it.  

[babysdaddy 2720]

4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

People that don’t like the CR are people that are uncomfortable with people disagreeing with them. For example, The CR is full of lawyers, finance, doctors, and tech people because they’re used to having to back up their arguments/beliefs/findings with facts and reason. 

[HornOnTheBayou 8917]

16 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Call Texas Highways Magazine.

What bothers folks, I think, is that politics is discussed at all. Why is that?

Edited to answer my own question: Because folks prefer to vote in blissful ignorance. You’re welcome to prove me wrong, but, please, show your work.

That's part of it. But also, they have the luxury of not having to worry about it. As long as you're not part of a marginalized group, you're going to be fine no matter which party is in power. However, if you're female, LGBTQ, poor, non-Christian, or a person of color, you don't get that luxury of pretending everything is A-OK.

[YGIFS 19449]

I remember leaving the old site because of a UT application thing I was involved with right around 2016 election.  And I had so much pos rep from bashing Obama and Hillary (a lot of it from the people who neg rep posts of mine from months ago who are on this very thread).  And I basically sat out politics and the new site for 2017 and even 2018 (aside from Seinfeld and Ass posts, I am  human after all).  And I guess while that was happening, everybody who was pro-CR became anti-CR. 

And everybody but me was let in on some super magic secret that you couldn't post anything against Trump without meaning you were a beta-male, socialist cuck.  And i wasn't pro or anti-Trump at the time, but all of a sudden there were no more facts or articles or analysis.  It was just a shouting match.  Trump was sent by God and if you didn't like him, you sucked.  And then others felt that Trump was Hitler and was going to kill all of us and install a dictatorship.  Nobody ever showed their work.  It was ridiculous.  But by 2019, I finally realized the con he pulled.  Mainly out in America, but also on here.  This site, and CR especially, is different from the mainstream idiots he conned.  The folks on here, former Republicans like myself, aren't special...but we are different.  We are far more educated and insulated than the average MAGA member.  That's what made the shift of the CR so weird to me.  It could be a place of proper discourse and factual discussion, but it did kinda become an echo chamber of sorts. But then you also have much of the rest of the site bitching about it without coming to it and saying "Here's my position, here's the facts to back it up, here's why Trump did this thing correctly, fuck you very much, where's the tylenol?"  I understand why people just shout what Trump shouts to own the libs, but this is a very different group of folks. 

In the end, the two reasons I oscillated back to CR after my days of bashing Obama and Hillary is there are a lot of us on there still scratching our heads, looking at one another like "Did they tell you we were totally changing the party to stupid?  They didn't tell me.  Maybe we're the stupid ones then?  I mean, I do dumb shit but I was kind of in an influential position within the party.  Did you get the memo?  I didn't get the memo."   And the other reason is, it's fucking funny in the CR.  Maybe not your cup of tea, but something I know more about than politics is comedy, and it's fucking way funnier in there than it is with the rest of some of you miserable pricks.  And guys like Poe and Incrudelity, those guys are funny too.  Stern anti-CR's like PilotsError, StruggleBus, McFly...those guys could put the skids on a fun time real fucking quick.  

In the end, there's lotsa far-left folks that I don't agree with on pretty much anything.  But there's a lot of us there that again, just didn't get the stupid memo about Trump.  We missed the train so we're just partying with the folks still at the Depot.  

[Cornpop 230]

19 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Call Texas Highways Magazine.

What bothers folks, I think, is that politics is discussed at all. Why is that?

Edited to answer my own question: Because folks prefer to vote in blissful ignorance. You’re welcome to prove me wrong, but, please, show your work.

You didn't show any work

[royiv 9261]

1 hour ago, Cornpop said:

You didn't show any work

Coming from someone who shitposts and never backs his shit up. 

[Cornpop 230]

29 minutes ago, royiv said:

Coming from someone who shitposts and never backs his shit up. 

Your last two posts are shitposts

[Willfully Horn 8002]

2 hours ago, Cornpop said:

You didn't show any work

I do show my work when I am not giving an opinion. And, I try to answer questions directly. Maybe you could hazard a guess as to why people are put out by folks talking politics on the political forum. 
 

Granted, folks don’t like talking politics with others,* but the hostility towards people talking politics, among themselves, is rather fucked up. Wouldn’t you agree?

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2019/06/19/the-publics-level-of-comfort-talking-politics-and-trump/

 

[Cornpop 230]

39 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I do show my work when I am not giving an opinion. And, I try to answer questions directly. Maybe you could hazard a guess as to why people are put out by folks talking politics on the political forum. 
 

Granted, folks don’t like talking politics with others,* but the hostility towards people talking politics, among themselves, is rather fucked up. Wouldn’t you agree?

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2019/06/19/the-publics-level-of-comfort-talking-politics-and-trump/

 

I don't think that's the problem

[Willfully Horn 8002]

1 hour ago, Cornpop said:

I don't think that's the problem

Care to elaborate?

[Cornpop 230]

1 hour ago, Willfully Horn said:

Care to elaborate?

I think you're smart enough to figure it out if you don't already understand 

[Celery Man 20933]

❄️

[Cornpop 230]

Penelope why are you so angry?

[wildcat09 29346]

Immortal, have you been seeing a therapist? You seem slightly more in control of yourself than usual. Good for you.

[Beau Vine 54208]

On 11/17/2022 at 10:33 PM, Cornpop said:

Largest jizz jar circle jerk in the state. Lmao

[markstanco 12571]

On 11/19/2022 at 11:59 AM, Cornpop said:

Penelope why are you so angry?

She's always angry. 

[Brian Fantana 6680]

On 11/18/2022 at 9:12 PM, Cornpop said:

Your last two posts are shitposts

Your entire life is a shitpost

Go back to the asylum you freak

[atomheartbevo 89628]

On 11/20/2022 at 2:56 PM, Beau Vine said:

That's a nice big "Z" right there in the lower left.

[Cornpop 230]

17 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Your entire life is a shitpost

Go back to the asylum you freak

Why would I do that when I'm living rent free in your brain?

It is a little cramped in here .

[Hefeweizen 5310]

Corn pop is ac terrible poster.

 

Probably didn’t enjoy the burger she stole from your Corolla in the dollar tree parking lot.

[Bullneck 19073]

I'm an open minded person.  I have a black person in my avatar.

And then there's this snowflake.  Based on his posts I imagine that's a real, actual picture of Texas Pete:

 

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Bullneck

[Bullneck 19073]

On 4/12/2022 at 2:51 PM, Cheeseweasel said:

You do you. I love this board & 99% of it makes my laugh/brings me joy. 1% of the people are a little too high strung for me, so I try to set them straight. I do this by going to the place where they congregate and offer my opinions.

 

 

Edited November 25, 2022 by Bullneck

[Bullneck 19073]

Here's the latest on the UVa thread.  There's no point in continuing on the Football board but for some reason I feel compelled to respond to the stupidity.

12 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

It just has no place on this board. It’s been that way through all the shaggy years and now the surly years. I don’t want to read political shit because this is a football board. I don’t come here for political or religious advice. It’s one of the reasons I have always enjoyed these boards. That shit has ruined TV and just about everything else. 

If I want to talk that, I’ll find those places. There are plenty of them all over the internet. Most people are idiots and I don’t want their hot takes. Their football hot takes are usually moronic enough, and I know lots of people feel exactly the same. I don’t care what anyone thinks about whatever other topic. We have boards for those. I have literally never clicked on one.

Same reason I never listen to sports talk radio. Don’t give the first fuck about the NBA, MLB, or hockey. 

One day the decisions you didn't know you made will intrude on your life. 

2 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

It’s about football players on a football team. Concept isn’t difficult. Some people love to turn everything to their bullshit. 

OK, so pick three other players and post about them.  But they didn't die because of gun violence.  Something that statistically wouldn't happen in most other countries.  Now it's happening more than once a week (really, let that sink in) here.  It's fucking insane.  Why wouldn't you want to stop the insanity.

2 hours ago, USNALonghorn said:

They can’t let a tragedy go to waste.

What you call "go to waste" I call "we would endeavor to stop it from happening again."  I get it, you have no answers.  We do.

[USNALonghorn 5078]

Just now, Bullneck said:

What you call "go to waste" I call "we would endeavor to stop it from happening again."  I get it, you have no answers.  We do.

You don’t have shit, pussy. 

[Bullneck 19073]

1 minute ago, USNALonghorn said:

You don’t have shit, pussy. 

Joe Biden renews call for assault weapons ban after latest mass shootings

[USNALonghorn 5078]

23 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Joe Biden renews call for assault weapons ban after latest mass shootings

There’s no such thing as an “assault” weapon. Assault is an action. You can assault someone with a pitchfork, knife, baseball bat, etc.

But be my guest, ban an inanimate object. I’m sure that will tame psychopaths. Let’s do it!!

[Bullneck 19073]

2 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

There’s no such thing as an “assault” weapon. Assault is an action. You can assault someone with a pitchfork, knife, baseball bat, etc.

But be my guest, ban an inanimate object. I’m sure that will tame psychopaths. Let’s do it!!

OK.  Sounds like your answer is to do nothing.  Nothing can be done.  Remember that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.  Some of us would like to stop the insanity. It doesn't seem like you do.

I'm wondering if you could answer a question for me. (see below)

Spoiler

What if next week we saw a Uvalde or Columbine or Sandy Hook or Marjory Stoneman Douglas type of mass shooting.  A mass shooting where, say 20 children died.  And the next week the same thing happened.  And the next week, and the next.

And it continued every week.  Every week another 20 children were sacrificed.  It would never stop until something real was done.

At what point would you say, "Enough."  Where is that?  How many children would have to die? Tell me your answer.

 

[USNALonghorn 5078]

1 minute ago, Bullneck said:

OK.  Sounds like your answer is to do nothing.  Nothing can be done.  Remember that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.  Some of us would like to stop the insanity. It doesn't seem like you do.

I'm wondering if you could answer a question for me. (see below)

  Reveal hidden contents

What if next week we saw a Uvalde or Columbine or Sandy Hook or Marjory Stoneman Douglas type of mass shooting.  A mass shooting where, say 20 children died.  And the next week the same thing happened.  And the next week, and the next.

And it continued every week.  Every week another 20 children were sacrificed.  It would never stop until something real was done.

At what point would you say, "Enough."  Where is that?  How many children would have to die? Tell me your answer.

 

Yeah, you’re totally right, man. Let’s go ahead and ban a scary looking rifle! I can already see people lining up to turn them in!

[royiv 9261]

41 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

You don’t have shit, pussy. 

Pot, meet kettle.

2 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

Yeah, you’re totally right, man. Let’s go ahead and ban a scary looking rifle! I can already see people lining up to turn them in!

Critical thinking isn't high on your list of aptitudes is it?

[Bullneck 19073]

3 minutes ago, royiv said:

Pot, meet kettle.

Critical thinking isn't high on your list of aptitudes is it?

His handle is "USNA" which I assumed meant the Naval Academy but I'm starting to wonder.  All the Naval Academy and Marine Option guys I knew were pretty sharp.  His game thread comments are nothing too interesting ("Lets gooooo") so I think I'll put him on ignore.  

[royiv 9261]

1 minute ago, Bullneck said:

His handle is "USNA" which I assumed meant the Naval Academy but I'm starting to wonder.  All the Naval Academy and Marine Option guys I knew were pretty sharp.  His game thread comments are nothing too interesting ("Lets gooooo") so I think I'll put him on ignore.  

Yeah, I'm beginning to think he's in his mom's basement. The guy appears to have the IQ of potato. 

[Hate 20106]

I'm an open minded person.  I have a black person in my avatar.





And then there's this snowflake.  Based on his posts I imagine that's a real, actual picture of Texas Pete:

 
 

Fuck you for any implication that I am racist. Find any such post here or on Shaggy that would implicate that I’m racist. I’ll wait here for your apology.

[Bullneck 19073]

1 hour ago, Hate said:

Fuck you for any implication that I am racist. Find any such post here or on Shaggy that would implicate that I’m racist. I’ll wait here for your apology.

OK, I removed you from the post and apologize.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

On 11/25/2022 at 6:20 PM, USNALonghorn said:

There’s no such thing as an “assault” weapon. Assault is an action. You can assault someone with a pitchfork, knife, baseball bat, etc.

But be my guest, ban an inanimate object. I’m sure that will tame psychopaths. Let’s do it!!

Bless your heart.  You really are a moron.

[USNALonghorn 5078]

13 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Bless your heart.  You really are a moron.

Nice comeback...

Now go back to debating politics on the internet.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

13 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

Nice comeback...

Now go back to debating politics on the internet.

 

Hate to break it to you numb nuts, but you were having a political debate upthread.  You are just too big of a coward to go the appropriate forum to have it.  Show us where the big, bad Cloak Room touched you.  L-o- fucking-l.  Pathetic.

Edited November 27, 2022 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[USNALonghorn 5078]

28 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

 

Hate to break it to you numb nuts, but you were having a political debate upthread.  You are just too big of a coward to go the appropriate forum to have it.  Show us where the big, bad Cloak Room touched you.  L-o- fucking-l.  Pathetic.

Yes, dimwit, I was totally trying to change people's opinion on a topic society will NEVER agree on... on an internet forum. Now take your brave soul back to the hostile trenches of the Cloak Room and change some minds. You're the real hero!

[Willfully Horn 8002]

23 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

Yes, dimwit, I was totally trying to change people's opinion on a topic society will NEVER agree on... on an internet forum. Now take your brave soul back to the hostile trenches of the Cloak Room and change some minds. You're the real hero!

You certainly ain’t gonna learn what you don’t want to know.

To whit. (and spoilered because of some sensibilities:)

Spoiler

In the United States, assault weapon is a controversial term used to define firearmswith specified characteristics.^[1] The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine, a pistol grip, and sometimes other features, such as a vertical forward grip, flash suppressor, or barrel shroud.^[1][2]Certain firearms are specified by name in some laws that restrict assault weapons.^[3]When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that was designed snd configured for rapid fire and combat use."^[3] The commonly used definitions of assault weapons are under frequent debate, and have changed over time.^[1]

Common knowledge might be less specific, but, it is common understanding.

[USNALonghorn 5078]

8 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

You certainly ain’t gonna learn what you don’t want to know.

To whit. (and spoilered because of some sensibilities:)

  Reveal hidden contents

In the United States, assault weapon is a controversial term used to define firearmswith specified characteristics.^[1] The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine, a pistol grip, and sometimes other features, such as a vertical forward grip, flash suppressor, or barrel shroud.^[1][2]Certain firearms are specified by name in some laws that restrict assault weapons.^[3]When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that was designed snd configured for rapid fire and combat use."^[3] The commonly used definitions of assault weapons are under frequent debate, and have changed over time.^[1]

Common knowledge might be less specific, but, it is common understanding.

The definition listed further proves my point. The term is labeled as “controversial“ because it is almost exclusively used by one side of the political spectrum in an effort to sway opinion. Same thing can be said about the term “pro-life”. 
 

Back to my original point: there is nothing noble or even decent about turning a report of a tragedy into a political debate. Just like with abortion, American society will never come to a mutually agreed solution. There is no need to spill the mind numbing CR circle jerk over here. I’m sure there are plenty of threads over there for that.

[Willfully Horn 8002]

11 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

The definition listed further proves my point. The term is labeled as “controversial“ because it is almost exclusively used by one side of the political spectrum in an effort to sway opinion. Same thing can be said about the term “pro-life”. 
 

Back to my original point: there is nothing noble or even decent about turning a report of a tragedy into a political debate. Just like with abortion, American society will never come to a mutually agreed solution. There is no need to spill the mind numbing CR circle jerk over here. I’m sure there are plenty of threads over there for that.

I will concede to your wishes. Perhaps someone in CR will explain what your first paragraph means. I must point out the frequency of such tragedies would dictate that the subject never be discussed, following the logic of your second  paragraph. Peace.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/23/us/2022-mass-shootings-tracking-second-highest/index.html

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

1 hour ago, USNALonghorn said:

Yes, dimwit, I was totally trying to change people's opinion on a topic society will NEVER agree on... on an internet forum. Now take your brave soul back to the hostile trenches of the Cloak Room and change some minds. You're the real hero!

Maybe you shouldn’t post here if you are so fucking sensitive.  FYI, society largely agrees.  It is mouth breathers like you who drag their heels and continue to show everyone what trash you are.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

29 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

The definition listed further proves my point. The term is labeled as “controversial“ because it is almost exclusively used by one side of the political spectrum in an effort to sway opinion. Same thing can be said about the term “pro-life”. 
 

Back to my original point: there is nothing noble or even decent about turning a report of a tragedy into a political debate. Just like with abortion, American society will never come to a mutually agreed solution. There is no need to spill the mind numbing CR circle jerk over here. I’m sure there are plenty of threads over there for that.

Are you really this dumb?  A majority of Americans believe abortion should be legal.  It is a very vocal minority who bought and paid for the Supreme Court who thinks abortion should be banned.  Maybe if you stopped watching Fox News you might learn something.  We all know you are too big of a pussy to engage in meaningful discussion in the Cloak Room.