The Cloak Room is a terrible place.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2394]

18 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Nice try, skippy . It was not me and the warnings are for leaving neg rep, not trolling. You little snowflakes are a protected class now. 🤣🤣

I’m not a snowflake.  
You are clearly an idiot.  

There are two facts for you.

 I think your personal attacks should cross a line but that in my opinion.  

[Armybrat 40761]

2 hours ago, immortal13 said:

Nice try, skippy . It was not me and the warnings are for leaving neg rep, not trolling. You little snowflakes are a protected class now. 🤣🤣

That’s no way to talk to Santa’s chauffeur.

[Passive Aggressive Coach 87]

3 hours ago, immortal13 said:

Now the CRers have the mods issuing warnings to protect then from negs. Lmao no I'm not kidding. 

Shocking.

[hobbes2702 12978]

Why doesn’t the aggrieved post the warning they were sent so we can all see what it was for?

[hayden_horn 11362]

i don't recall ever issuing a warning for neg repping someone repeatedly. 

i have given breaks for straight trolling and pretty hateful off-topic namecalling though. 

[Willfully Horn 7950]

On 12/21/2021 at 12:13 PM, hayden_horn said:

i don't recall ever issuing a warning for neg repping someone repeatedly. 

i have given breaks for straight trolling and pretty hateful off-topic namecalling though. 

[UT_OB1 2203]

On 12/21/2021 at 12:13 PM, hayden_horn said:

i don't recall ever issuing a warning for neg repping someone repeatedly. 

i have given breaks for straight trolling and pretty hateful off-topic namecalling though. 

I thought neg repping to the point where someone is just negging every random post unrelated to the offensive post, even going back days or weeks or months was considered harassment. That’s at least the gist of what @immamac has said to me. 
 

I think rep should be turned off after a post is up for some period of time -2-3 maybe 5 days. Too many unhinged people here with high rep go around trying to neg ban people on their own. If someone makes a shit post in CR and they get banned because 30 people negged it over 2 days, fine. But people getting punted or even just going red because a single poster doesn’t agree and negs all their posts Movies and hobbies from the last 3 years is BS. 

Edited December 24, 2021 by UT_OB1

[immamac 42726]

31 minutes ago, UT_OB1 said:

I thought neg repping to the point where someone is just negging every random post unrelated to the offensive post, even going back days or weeks or months was considered harassment. That’s at least the gist of what @immamac has said to me. 
 

I think rep should be turned off after a post is up for some period of time -2-3 maybe 5 days. Too many unhinged people here with high rep go around trying to neg ban people on their own. If someone makes a shit post in CR and they get banned because 30 people negged it over 2 days, fine. But people getting punted or even just going red because a single poster doesn’t agree and negs all their posts Movies and hobbies from the last 3 years is BS. 

yeah going on a neg spree that just goes back into threads that are completely irrelevant and have nothing to do with anything is harassment. 

[Hate 20104]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

yeah going on a neg spree that just goes back into threads that are completely irrelevant and have nothing to do with anything is harassment. 

Lol...You'll have to ban half of the CR posters then.  Neg repping is a pretty stupid activity anyway.  If you don't like or agree with a post just move one.  It's not like anyone is convincing anyone else to change their position on a topic. 

[mchookem 16260]

i think it would help to have a rep-neutral eyeroll reaction 🙄 that's my prevailing reaction to a lot of posts lol

😏

[justhookit 4189]

1 minute ago, mchookem said:

i think it would help to have a rep-neutral eyeroll reaction 🙄 that's my prevailing reaction to a lot of posts lol

😏

😬

 

1 hour ago, Hate said:

Lol...You'll have to ban half of the CR posters then.  Neg repping is a pretty stupid activity anyway.  If you don't like or agree with a post just move one.  It's not like anyone is convincing anyone else to change their position on a topic. 

Negged

 

3 hours ago, immamac said:

yeah going on a neg spree that just goes back into threads that are completely irrelevant and have nothing to do with anything is harassment. 

A few people do that but who cares? I don’t think you’ve ever lost a good poster because of anything like that. Maybe I’m wrong I don’t pay much attention to what goes on in CR.I mean I neg the crap out of Sydney and ctj but nothing happens. I’ll start on you and feel free to start your own website.

[Willfully Horn 7950]

3 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

I think rep should be turned off after a post is up for some period of time -2-3 maybe 5 days.

I’m that oddball that reacts, positively, to old posts. 

[UT_OB1 2203]

5 hours ago, justhookit said:

😬

 

Negged

 

A few people do that but who cares? I don’t think you’ve ever lost a good poster because of anything like that. Maybe I’m wrong I don’t pay much attention to what goes on in CR.I mean I neg the crap out of Sydney and ctj but nothing happens. I’ll start on you and feel free to start your own website.

You think that because you disagreed with the poster(s), and probably (definitely?) about something political. I’ve had quite a few in this thread on ignore at one point because every time I came across their post in dt or cr they seemed like shithead assholes talking circles round each other. However as I started spending more time in other places like movies, hobbies, etc I started occasionally reading the hidden comments and came to realize that most are normal enough outside of those 2 threads and football, and I have less on ignore now. Most of those banned posters were good posters in other places.

[justhookit 4189]

8 minutes ago, UT_OB1 said:

You think that because you disagreed with the poster(s), and probably (definitely?) about something political. I’ve had quite a few in this thread on ignore at one point because every time I came across their post in dt or cr they seemed like shithead assholes talking circles round each other. However as I started spending more time in other places like movies, hobbies, etc I started occasionally reading the hidden comments and came to realize that most are normal enough outside of those 2 threads and football, and I have less on ignore now. Most of those banned posters were good posters in other places.

Huh? Like I said I don’t really get into the CR thing and the only poster that got banned I can even think of by name is Wanker Bob. He was an idiot and asshat no matter what board he was posting on. I don’t give a shit what other people have gotten run out of CR.  The few others I recall getting crowd sourced would probably align pretty close to me politically. I’m way on the right compared to a lot of other suryly’s.

If they were good posters on other boards they should have stayed the fuck out of CR. This website does a pretty good job of policing itself.

[Guest Lobo]

This does kinda beg the question---can we bring back rep comments?  As stated above, nobody's behavior or opinions actually change based on neg rep...but there's something to be said for some constructive feedback.  

[Hate 20104]

Man do I miss leaving comments on rep.  There are times when I have to rep a poster that I can't stand but all they see is the positive rep.  How can I let them know that it is painful for me to do that? 

[justhookit 4189]

9 minutes ago, Hate said:

Man do I miss leaving comments on rep.  There are times when I have to rep a poster that I can't stand but all they see is the positive rep.  How can I let them know that it is painful for me to do that? 

We could just have a Lobo rep.

[Guest Lobo]

Actually to steal my friend’s band name…we should call the rep “I love you but I’ve chosen darkness…”

[Capt. Squints 176]

11 hours ago, immamac said:

yeah going on a neg spree that just goes back into threads that are completely irrelevant and have nothing to do with anything is harassment. 

Then why is it allowed?

[immamac 42726]

2 hours ago, Capt. Squints said:

Then why is it allowed?

It isn't "allowed" people do it and no one lets me know. A quick DM fixes the problem. 

[immortal13 4059]

2 hours ago, justhookit said:

We could just have a Lobo rep.

Would it be 9 paragraphs long?

[Anastasis 23404]

5 hours ago, Lobo said:

This does kinda beg the question---can we bring back rep comments?

I was going to neg you for misappropriation of "beg the question"....but then I read the rest of your post and agree.  I also think that neg comments should be publicly viewable.  Also ignore lists should be public as well. 

[DDD Dad 14272]

Also ignore lists should be public as well. 

Why? you want to see how highly you rank?

[Anastasis 23404]

1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

Why? you want to see how highly you rank?

 

 

I am in favor of letting people transparently self identify their brain damage. 

[DDD Dad 14272]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

I am in favor of letting people transparently self identify their brain damage. 

 

[Guest]

18 hours ago, immamac said:

yeah going on a neg spree that just goes back into threads that are completely irrelevant and have nothing to do with anything is harassment. 

that's what 98% of all negs are.

The notion that their neg only deserves one neg in reciprocation is asinine, especially in this FAAFO world.

Boo fucking hoo.   If negs don't matter, and it's been repeated in this community ad nauseum, then why the subsequent squeals?

 

Y'all know the answer... but it cannot be stated.

Edit: If someone just went on random barrages, I'd agree with your point.  If some dumbass thought they were being cute or clever and started shit, then fuck em.

Edited December 24, 2021 by slorch

[workswithseed 2042]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

 

Just finally watched the movie last month.

[elfenix 34205]

13 hours ago, Lobo said:

This does kinda beg the question---can we bring back rep comments?  As stated above, nobody's behavior or opinions actually change based on neg rep...but there's something to be said for some constructive feedback.  

negged for misusing begging the question.

 

  

7 hours ago, Anastasis said:

I was going to neg you for misappropriation of "beg the question"....but then I read the rest of your post and agree.  I also think that neg comments should be publicly viewable.  Also ignore lists should be public as well. 

negged for not negging misuse of beg the question

Edited December 25, 2021 by elfenix

[Anastasis 23404]

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

negged for misusing begging the question.

 

  

negged for not negging misuse of beg the question

That’s fair. 

[elfenix 34205]

Just now, Anastasis said:

That’s fair. 

if there's anything i learned from multiple choice tests, it's go with your first instinct

[DDD Dad 14272]

that's what 98% of all negs are.
The notion that their neg only deserves one neg in reciprocation is asinine, especially in this FAAFO world.
Boo fucking hoo.   If negs don't matter, and it's been repeated in this community ad nauseum, then why the subsequent squeals?
 
Y'all know the answer... but it cannot be stated.
Edit: If someone just went on random barrages, I'd agree with your point.  If some dumbass thought they were being cute or clever and started shit, then fuck em.

Slorch’d!








Merry Christmas!

[HornOnTheBayou 8882]

18 hours ago, slorch said:

Boo fucking hoo.   If negs don't matter, and it's been repeated in this community ad nauseum, then why the subsequent squeals?

 

Y'all know the answer... but it cannot be stated.

[Guest]

Exactly.

If it's not a big deal, then STFU about it.

[Ted Lange 16060]

People who hate the CR are really closeted Aggys.  They wish they could post on texags with their brethren.   Just admit you are aggys and be done with it, they love all your political beliefs.  They will hook you up with that JFK JR meeting you’ve been dying for. 

[Willfully Horn 7950]

One reason the CR is viewed as a terrible place is because things are allowed to be stated in CR that some folks would prefer never be said at all. It is terrible that people are allowed to say certain things, apparently. One example to support this statement is @immortal13’s response to @Lobo’s mentioning folks jailed for their actions on 1/6, though lobo did not mention politics when he did so. (He said they ought be beaten. Daily, I think). The comment was in response to the idea of jail beatings.

That there are people jailed for a political act is a fact. Yet any mention of those people must be confined to the terrible place. 

That some folks demand certain facts never be uttered can also be seen at local school board meetings across this nation. 

Edited December 26, 2021 by Willfully Horn
Claro

[immortal13 4059]

6 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

One reason the CR is viewed as a terrible place is because things are allowed to be stated in CR that some folks would prefer never be said at all. It is terrible that people are allowed to say certain things, apparently. One example to support this statement is @immortal13’s response to @Lobo’s mentioning folks jailed for their actions on 1/6, though lobo did not mention politics when he did so. (He said they ought be beaten. Daily, I think). The comment was in response to the idea of jail beatings.

That there are people jailed for a political act is a fact. Yet any mention of those people must be confined to the terrible place. 

That some folks demand certain facts never be uttered can also be seen at local school board meetings across this nation. 

Sorry bud but the problem is that CRers are always trying to inject politics into DT threads where it doesn't belong. It's happened countless times with the goal being to derail the thread or get it moved to the CR. 

[elfenix 34205]

he said, without a hint of irony

[Guest Lobo]

That DT response by me came from about a half dozen posts about how I was condoning prison beatings.  Since I was called out by handle, I felt it okay for me to clarify my position for the umpteenth time.  Forum didn't matter, there were two very high profile "groups" of folks I have no issue with what happens to them in prison because of the heinousness of their crimes. 

That's not political, but yeah---I get both Willfully and Immortal's points.  Plenty of instances where DT gets way too butt-hurt over something that's really just a news story.  To be fair, there have been so many news stories the last few years where I just thought, "Hey, current events in Haiti."  Didn't even occur to me that we could make a partisan issue, but shouldn't surprise us anymore.  On the other hand, lots of CR regulars will find ways to namecall and what-about-isms on DT threads (even football and others).  Look at the "Bitch about Family" thread on Lulz.  A third or more of the posts are non-CR regulars talking about their family starting stupid political/FOX news shit at the holidays.  

Anyway, this shit has run its course.  Is not political to me in the least.  It's akin to how many Americans will sometimes look at a murder case and the victims are so innocent and the means are so disturbing that you'll often hear something like, "I'm against the death penalty, but if it has to be used-this is the case to do it."  -or- "I'm not a violent man, but as a father, if I was in the room with that serial rapist---I'd take my time beating him."  Shit like that, it's in that vein.  Not really political to me, just people who are usually peaceful acknowledging vengeful rage inside every human being.

I don't care the politics of Aubrey's murderers or the idiots on January 6th.  They hunted down a human being for sport and murdered him in cold blood.  I don't like the idea of chasing down your victims for pleasure.  As for the Capitol rioters, to me it still comes down to people just don't fucking get what would have happened to the United States if even one elected official had been killed that day in the building or out front.  Political assassinations happen, particularly by lone crazies (Hinkley comes to mind).  But when they happen in coordinated fashion by angry mobs, at the Seat of Government, on live television during an upheaval of that nation's democratic elections...the rest of the world would have cut us off for a few years while we worked our shit out.  Our credit spigot would have turned off, equity and bond credits would have collapsed overnight, diplomatic partnerships would have been suspended, international air travel cut off, borders sealed, international trade slams on the brakes, etc.  For at least a matter of months, likely until my children are in high school.  We would have entered an extremely dark phase that would make the Civil War look like an intramural scuffle.  Our entire way of life would have ended in a heartbeat.  The rioters didn't understand that, and they still don't, so if somebody wants to beat that into them---I think we should all look the other way.  

[DDD Dad 14272]

2 hours ago, Lobo said:

As for the Capitol rioters, to me it still comes down to people just don't fucking get what would have happened to the United States if even one elected official had been killed that day in the building or out front.  Political assassinations happen, particularly by lone crazies (Hinkley comes to mind).  But when they happen in coordinated fashion by angry mobs, at the Seat of Government, on live television during an upheaval of that nation's democratic elections...the rest of the world would have cut us off for a few years while we worked our shit out.  Our credit spigot would have turned off, equity and bond credits would have collapsed overnight, diplomatic partnerships would have been suspended, international air travel cut off, borders sealed, international trade slams on the brakes, etc.  For at least a matter of months, likely until my children are in high school.  We would have entered an extremely dark phase that would make the Civil War look like an intramural scuffle.  Our entire way of life would have ended in a heartbeat.  The rioters didn't understand that, and they still don't, so if somebody wants to beat that into them---I think we should all look the other way.  

Just some patriots exercising their First Amendment rights of free speech and assembly.

 

Edited December 26, 2021 by DDD Dad

[statsman 5431]

The old shaggy site was purportedly created by people fleeing the supposed heavy handed moderation of Hornfans. It’s ironic that it evolved into such a heavily moderated site here. 
I was a regular in the Cloak Room of shaggy until suspended in that post-2016 election “serious thread” nonsense (Bolverk reported me for using a “both sides” argument). 
I see no reason to return now. The Cloak Room is not a place for discussion or debate. It’s not a place to learn something or get smarter. It’s a left wing circle jerk that relies on ad hominem attacks and appeals to authority. If that’s your thing, have at it. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19097]

5 minutes ago, statsman said:

The old shaggy site was purportedly created by people fleeing the supposed heavy handed moderation of Hornfans. It’s ironic that it evolved into such a heavily moderated site here. 
I was a regular in the Cloak Room of shaggy until suspended in that post-2016 election “serious thread” nonsense (Bolverk reported me for using a “both sides” argument). 
I see no reason to return now. The Cloak Room is not a place for discussion or debate. It’s not a place to learn something or get smarter. It’s a left wing circle jerk that relies on ad hominem attacks and appeals to authority. If that’s your thing, have at it. 

Lol.  Ok, bud.  You do realize that those so-called “left-wing” posters are a lot of former Republican voters who recognized Trump for what he was, right?

[statsman 5431]

…and exactly what point are you making?

(it really doesn’t matter, but I have never voted for Trump in a primary or election, never advocated for him in any argument, told friends they were fools for falling in behind him…)

…and, hey- if you think the Cloak Room is great, that’s awesome! Have fun!

Edited December 27, 2021 by statsman

[Pam Cummings 9603]

55 minutes ago, statsman said:

The old shaggy site was purportedly created by people fleeing the supposed heavy handed moderation of Hornfans. It’s ironic that it evolved into such a heavily moderated site here. 
I was a regular in the Cloak Room of shaggy until suspended in that post-2016 election “serious thread” nonsense (Bolverk reported me for using a “both sides” argument). 
I see no reason to return now. The Cloak Room is not a place for discussion or debate. It’s not a place to learn something or get smarter. It’s a left wing circle jerk that relies on ad hominem attacks and appeals to authority. If that’s your thing, have at it. 

Lol why is it always the "i never visit the cloak room" posters that are the biggest know it alls about what the cloak room consists of.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19097]

54 minutes ago, statsman said:

…and exactly what point are you making?

(it really doesn’t matter, but I have never voted for Trump in a primary or election, never advocated for him in any argument, told friends they were fools for falling in behind him…)

…and, hey- if you think the Cloak Room is great, that’s awesome! Have fun!

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, statsman said:

The old shaggy site was purportedly created by people fleeing the supposed heavy handed moderation of Hornfans. It’s ironic that it evolved into such a heavily moderated site here. 
I was a regular in the Cloak Room of shaggy until suspended in that post-2016 election “serious thread” nonsense (Bolverk reported me for using a “both sides” argument). 
I see no reason to return now. The Cloak Room is not a place for discussion or debate. It’s not a place to learn something or get smarter. It’s a left wing circle jerk that relies on ad hominem attacks and appeals to authority. If that’s your thing, have at it. 

I’m always amused by the “shaggy cloak room was a place of productive and free thinking debate and the surly cloak room is just a left wing circle jerk” take. 
 

Until Trump came along the shaggy cloak room was basically a right wing circle jerk and obummer and Killary pantsuit bash fest. Sure some reasonable debate appeared every now and then, just like it does here. 
 

Trump was the final straw for a lot of former republicans and when the shag imploded a lot of former radical right wing posters like swam got crowdsourced here. Unfortunately in my opinion.  My final straw was the economic collapse W helped cause and finding out the Iraq war was a total fraud. 

[Gatorubet 30165]

The old shaggy site was purportedly created by people fleeing the supposed heavy handed moderation of Hornfans. It’s ironic that it evolved into such a heavily moderated site here. 
I was a regular in the Cloak Room of shaggy until suspended in that post-2016 election “serious thread” nonsense (Bolverk reported me for using a “both sides” argument). 
I see no reason to return now. The Cloak Room is not a place for discussion or debate. It’s not a place to learn something or get smarter. It’s a left wing circle jerk that relies on ad hominem attacks and appeals to authority. If that’s your thing, have at it. 

The fact that the new GQP is based 95% upon platforms of easily disprovable lies and some light treason is - ya know - a factor in that change. But you be you.

[Captainant 27520]

8 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Lol why is it always the "i never visit the cloak room" posters that are the biggest know it alls about what the cloak room consists of.

Well many people are saying

[Passive Aggressive Coach 87]

On 12/24/2021 at 12:04 AM, immamac said:

yeah going on a neg spree that just goes back into threads that are completely irrelevant and have nothing to do with anything is harassment. 

LOL OK. Now enforce that?  @PenelopeWitherspoon wouldn't even be here then. 

She spent 2 days negging 100s of my posts from CR to Football to get me banned. Nothing from you. 

Edited December 28, 2021 by Passive Aggressive Coach

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19097]

50 minutes ago, Passive Aggressive Coach said:

LOL OK. Now enforce that?  @PenelopeWitherspoon wouldn't even be here then. 

She spent 2 days negging 100s of my posts from CR to Football to get me banned. Nothing from you. 

You are such a whiner.  

Edited December 28, 2021 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

19 hours ago, statsman said:

The old shaggy site was purportedly created by people fleeing the supposed heavy handed moderation of Hornfans. It’s ironic that it evolved into such a heavily moderated site here. 

LOL at the idea this site is "heavily moderated." The mods attempt to keep politics to the CR. That is all. If you report posts to them that blatantly violate that rule, they take action of they find merit in your claim. 

In spite of this, the right-wingers have managed to shade DT into a forum for conservative farts to harrumph over the collapse of western civilization as they see it. They are frustrated that they can't fully express themselves there, where their cronies hang, without getting moved to CR, where they will get called out. Usually this type's next move is to go to the football board and try to brand their enemies as "CR morons" to the football crowd that doesn't go to either CR or DT. 

There is no reason other than lacking the courage of your convictions that you post-Trump "conservatives" can't all go make a stand at CR. You don't want to because you know deep down your beliefs are bad, and you should feel bad for having them.