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Guys im very nervous about the 2023 oklahoma class...i dont think we will be able to compete with them over the next 10 years. Unfortunately, unless they lose grinch and riley it may be worse than the

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Well, let's review the class (spoilered because, while I had fun on this, it got absurdly long):  

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9 hours ago, Big Woodrows said:

I personally prefer this tweet from Chavis:

 

https://www.baptistmessenger.com/clemson-coach-chavis-recounts-radical-transformation/

This is unsurprising but still worthy of a huge eye roll.

The new OU staff is wearing their social views on their sleeve. It may alienate most, but it appears to be attractive to enough players. This is why Lebby was a hypocritical hire.

These attitudes are tolerated when teams are winning and in an insular state like Oklahoma. Patty Gasso's doing this for OU softball with great success. We'll see how it play for young men playing football.

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9 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

LOL that's my neighbor on the top right.. He's cool, hates aggys too 

I think OU and A&M share more culturally than either do with UT. That shared culture was creating a lot of animosity when both were in the Big12, and the rivalry was really heating up. It'll be interesting to see what the pod structure in SEC is. If OU and A&M share a pod, I can see Sooner-Aggie hatefest going to 11.

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I think OU and A&M share more culturally than either do with UT. That shared culture was creating a lot of animosity when both were in the Big12, and the rivalry was really heating up. It'll be interesting to see what the pod structure in SEC is. If OU and A&M share a pod, I can see Sooner-Aggie hatefest going to 11.

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1 hour ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Could be I’m misremembering, but wasn’t there a post describing Chavis and Vasek in conversation AT last week’s Texas get together?  If true, why was an OU coach allowed into a Texas event … and why wasn’t he escorted to the Congress Avenue bridge for a refreshing dip?

 

Parker Thune (OU 247):

— I was told Miguel Chavis was still deep in conversation on the field with Colton Vasek at 11:00pm, long after many of the folks involved with the event had retired for the evening. As I mentioned in a previous thread, this is suddenly shaping up to be a rather unexpected OU-Texas battle, some two months after it seemed Vasek was bound for either Oregon or Clemson. To this point in his career at OU, Chavis has hardly missed as a recruiter; Vasek is essentially his heat check. I’m cautiously optimistic here.
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1 hour ago, quigley said:

I think OU and A&M share more culturally than either do with UT. That shared culture was creating a lot of animosity when both were in the Big12, and the rivalry was really heating up. It'll be interesting to see what the pod structure in SEC is. If OU and A&M share a pod, I can see Sooner-Aggie hatefest going to 11.

Lol.  Not even close.  aggy is very hick and stick.  The OU T-shirt fan is sometimes more like aggy but admin and alumni are closer to UT by a healthy margin.  
Also aggy is odd in that their tshirt fan is very similar to their redneck overall wearing nut grabbing alumni.  They’re very weird people.  Have you had any real life interactions with them?  Yikes

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he may be a fantastic hire but he has been a DL coach for exactly 0 games - and so far the only guy he has recruited from the region is Vasek.

guys he has recruited that have committed

  • Adebawore (KC, MO)
  • ***Vasek (Austin, yesterday)
  • Lewis Carter (FL)
  • Gracen Halton (San Diego - last year)
  • Kevonte Henry (CA)
  • Mason Thomas (FL)
  • Alton Tarber (FL)

 

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Lol.  Not even close.  aggy is very hick and stick.  The OU T-shirt fan is sometimes more like aggy but admin and alumni are closer to UT by a healthy margin.  
Also aggy is odd in that their tshirt fan is very similar to their redneck overall wearing nut grabbing alumni.  They’re very weird people.  Have you had any real life interactions with them?  Yikes

I lived in Houston for 5 years and Dallas for 3 years. I grew up in Oklahoma. I've had plenty of experience with all three groups. Could be generational or specific sample.

And come on, how can anyone from OK call any other place "hick and stick."

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1 hour ago, quigley said:

I lived in Houston for 5 years and Dallas for 3 years. I grew up in Oklahoma. I've had plenty of experience with all three groups. Could be generational or specific sample.

And come on, how can anyone from OK call any other place "hick and stick."

Bc OU gets their people from metro areas.  There’s plenty of areas in OK that are more metropolitan than Texas.  The meatjudging fuckos go to ag schools and that’s their culture.  OKC is closer to Dallas than Midland for one of a million examples.  

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2 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Bc OU gets their people from metro areas.  There’s plenty of areas in OK that are more metropolitan than Texas.  The meatjudging fuckos go to ag schools and that’s their culture.  OKC is closer to Dallas than Midland for one of a million examples.  

I agree with you.  What's truly the height of comedy is that the Aggies think they have moral high ground on other schools.  "An Aggie won't lie, cheat or steal" and all that.  They honestly think they're better people than others.  It's absurd.  Jimbo himself lies, cheats and steals A&M's money every goddamn day.

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On 8/2/2022 at 1:32 PM, ChiTownDoc said:

Bc OU gets their people from metro areas.  There’s plenty of areas in OK that are more metropolitan than Texas.  The meatjudging fuckos go to ag schools and that’s their culture.  OKC is closer to Dallas than Midland for one of a million examples.  

This.  OU gets the vast majority of their students from OKC, Tulsa, Dallas, and Houston with a smattering from around the country.  Aggy and Okie State are the more small town kids, although there are exceptions.

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On 8/2/2022 at 8:27 AM, ChiTownDoc said:

Lol.  Not even close.  aggy is very hick and stick.  The OU T-shirt fan is sometimes more like aggy but admin and alumni are closer to UT by a healthy margin.  
Also aggy is odd in that their tshirt fan is very similar to their redneck overall wearing nut grabbing alumni.  They’re very weird people.  Have you had any real life interactions with them?  Yikes

I grew up in DFW and knew lots of Sooner and Aggie families.  This is correct.  OU alums aren't goofy, puzzling and clannish.  They have Longhorn friends that they go to dinner, play bridge with, etc.  My parents never had aggies over to listen Brubeck, play bridge, discuss the affairs of the day and drink cocktails.  

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1 minute ago, cafe society said:

I grew up in DFW and knew lots of Sooner and Aggie families.  This is correct.  OU alums aren't goofy, puzzling and clannish.  They have Longhorn friends that they go to dinner, play bridge with, etc.  My parents never had aggies over to listen Brubeck, play bridge, discuss the affairs of the day and drink cocktails.  

I think the thing I notice the most is that I see plenty of UT fans around the country, a few aggy fans (tech companies like all those cheap math-y grads), and almost no OU fans that aren't tourists. OU grads don't seem to leave Texas/the Plains.

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4 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I think the thing I notice the most is that I see plenty of UT fans around the country, a few aggy fans (tech companies like all those cheap math-y grads), and almost no OU fans that aren't tourists. OU grads don't seem to leave Texas/the Plains.

A lot of kids from the Metroplex go to OU for reasons pointed out above.  A huge percentage of them return to the area and forge their careers and raise their families there.  Apart from their school and team allegiance they're just like UT alums that live up there.

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10 minutes ago, RabidM said:

So he said the N word while reading something someone else wrote.  There's got to be more to it.  He should just be able to apologize if it was a one time accident.  The relationship(s) must have already been strained. 

Yes there’s no way that’s the whole story.  Definitely a big loss.  No way to sugarcoat it but anything like that he needs to be gone. 

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15 minutes ago, RabidM said:

So he said the N word while reading something someone else wrote.  There's got to be more to it.  He should just be able to apologize if it was a one time accident.  The relationship(s) must have already been strained. 

They got him out of there pretty quick. The incident was either much worse than he is describing, or it was one of many incidents and the camel’s back finally broke.

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Had to be that, and players had to be upset about it.  If it was a mistake and nobody was angry, this likely comes down to an apology.  Some fans are in denial and hoping something changes, but with Venables' statement, it's hard to see a way this isn't the end.

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I think it’s entirely plausible that this is the first and only incident of this kind (no sarcasm) from Gundy and that it happened exactly as he described. There is exactly one verboten word in our culture, and everyone knows exactly what it is. We can discuss the merit of “cancelling” somebody because of this kind of singular transgression, but not saying this word is an absolute. A not insignificant number of the young men he coaches and recruits would never take a word he said seriously in the future. 

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On 8/4/2022 at 12:37 PM, cafe society said:

A lot of kids from the Metroplex go to OU for reasons pointed out above.  A huge percentage of them return to the area and forge their careers and raise their families there.  Apart from their school and team allegiance they're just like UT alums that live up there.

Other than being utter shitbags and traitors to their state. 

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46 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yes there’s no way that’s the whole story.  Definitely a big loss.  No way to sugarcoat it but anything like that he needs to be gone. 

He’s the one who taught the frat boys on the airplane that chant. And/or he wouldn’t fuck David Boren anymore. 
 

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7 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Other than being utter shitbags and traitors to their state. 

Yeah, I've worked with a bunch of them. They act like they're Texans yet they constantly trash their state's flagship school for the sole reason they couldn't get in. Fuck them and their Horns-down bullshit.

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one more tie to Riley/Stoops is gone - Gundy is legit a huge loss. this leaves Bedenbaugh as the only position coach tie left to Stoops/Riley, right?

https://soonersports.com/sports/football/coaches

side note, their LB coach has to be one of the whitest dudes in the history of CFB

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coaching stops at at GaTech (he is an alum), Duke Minnesota, Penn State, Vandy, UMass.

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one more tie to Riley/Stoops is gone - Gundy is legit a huge loss. this leaves Bedenbaugh as the only position coach tie left to Stoops/Riley, right?

https://soonersports.com/sports/football/coaches

side note, their LB coach has to be one of the whitest dudes in the history of CFB

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coaching stops at at GaTech (he is an alum), Duke Minnesota, Penn State, Vandy, UMass.

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You mean their DC/LBs coach. Yeah Ted Roof is a tired old retread. Even with Venables doing most of the actual DC work he's a sad, low-energy proven mediocrity. Why not get someone young and eager to learn?

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21 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

So before Venables has ever coached a game:

-Most of his good players transferred out
-All of his good recruits bailed
-His longest tenured coach snuck out at midnight a month before the season due to a racial controversy

Don’t worry OU fans, I’m sure a lot of successful coaches start out like this.

I think he thinks this will help him nationally. It might not be good for the fan base now. But the guy learned how to do great PR while being the worst from Dabo. It will show he doesn’t mess with that sort of stuff and he cares about the players. All while probably watching Schmidt stick them long needles to get ready for year 2. 
 

I am guessing he had conversations with recruits of Gundy before the announcement and got enough positive feedback to make it happen. If there is one thing OU has done well is hire good PR for shitty situations. Stoops had ABC put on an informercial the Saturday after the Big Red scandal. 

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