Tom Herman 𝗁̷Fired by Florida Atlantic

[TejasPedro 1857]

The definition of insanity is hiring a goofy ass coach with questionable tactics expecting them to show up not wearing a grill.

[Fondren & Main 6698]

Looks like he quit drinking.  Wish him well.  I hope he learned from his mistakes at Texas.  He is more than capable of becoming a very good to even great coach if he can stay out of his own way.

[C-Man 27182]

3 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Dude still led us to the best season in 12 years and was a good coach, better than Sark for sure. His downfall was his arrogance and the quality of coaches he surrounded himself with. If he had a legit top D1 staff and smoothed out some of his rough edges a bit he would still be here.  

Sark will have more success even though he isn't nearly as good of a coach because of his ability to get and retain better talent than Tom. Tom was also too damn conservative in the true sense of the word not the bullshit current political sense. And yes the username sort of checks out

"Getting and retaining talent" is probably the single most important duty a head college football coach has.

[Spankytoes 1739]

2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Yeah, he's a less cool and less funny Crash Davis.

Are you saying Jesus couldn’t catch a forward pass?

[Hank Chinaski 6312]

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

"Getting and retaining talent" is probably the single most important duty a head college football coach has.

Exactly. Going back to the Mack years, people have maintained this idea of “coach X isn’t a good coach, he just attracts really good talent, hires great assistants, keeps everyone happy, etc.” That’s most of the goddamn job. Was Mack a genius Xs and Os guy? No, but he was elite at the above (for his first dozen years here anyway). 

(Also, Herman never really seemed to be much of a schematic genius either.)

[DanTheHorn 4913]

9 hours ago, MrBig said:

He looks skinny. Cocaine & strippers or COVID from kissing?

 

I guess he did not learn. Like Bucky Godbolt said about Tom, players don't want to hear you care they want to know you care. People know you care when your actions show it otherwise the words ring hollow. He is back to saying I will love you now he just needs to start kissing them enough to convince himself he actually knows their names.

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

54 minutes ago, C-Man said:

"Getting and retaining talent" is probably the single most important duty a head college football coach has.

Recruiting is the lifeblood of a program, it’s true. And the teams with the most talent tend to have the best results on the field. But while it begins with recruiting, it doesn’t end there. After you get them on campus you have to develop them, motivate them, and put them in a position to succeed. Some coaches do more with lesser talent because they’re good at those things. Some coaches recruit well but fall short of expectations because they’re not so good at those things. Ron Zook is a textbook example of the latter. 

[ztejas 43411]

Interesting gig with some upside. He'll win 8-9 games there in his sleep. 

I would think he could have gotten a better job but who knows how much UT has dragged his name in the mud the past couple years. 

[C-Man 27182]

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Recruiting is the lifeblood of a program, it’s true. And the teams with the most talent tend to have the best results on the field. But while it begins with recruiting, it doesn’t end there. After you get them on campus you have to develop them, motivate them, and put them in a position to succeed. Some coaches do more with lesser talent because they’re good at those things. Some coaches recruit well but fall short of expectations because they’re not so good at those things. Ron Zook is a textbook example of the latter. 

Of course. I just recoil any time somebody says Coach X is a "shitty" coach when he appears to do parts of the job exceptionally.

[Butch Had Not 2969]

Can he bring Anwar with him? Please. 

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

9 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Of course. I just recoil any time somebody says Coach X is a "shitty" coach when he appears to do parts of the job exceptionally.

At the end of the day a coach is who the scoreboard says he is. It doesn’t matter how well he recruits if it doesn’t lead to success. 

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

14 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

At the end of the day a coach is who the scoreboard says he is. It doesn’t matter how well he recruits if it doesn’t lead to success. 

Absolutely, but “lead to” is very malleable. 

[C-Man 27182]

EDIT: oops, wrong thread

Edited December 2, 2022 by C-Man

[Loop 1604 227]

Herman will do very well there. Perfect situation for him. I bet he ends up back in the Rig 12 at Houston in a couple of years.

[Hermanator 7031]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

"Getting and retaining talent" is probably the single most important duty a head college football coach has.

And that's why he's at FAU

[C-Man 27182]

1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

And that's why he's at FAU

100% -- he would've likely crashed-and-burned in 2021 with the roster we had coming back.

[Hookem2147 21188]

5 minutes ago, Loop 1604 said:

Herman will do very well there. Perfect situation for him. I bet he ends up back in the Rig 12 at Houston in a couple of years.

Lol Houston will never, ever, ever, ever bring him back after the way he left.

[Murfdogg21 4412]

1 hour ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Was Mack a genius Xs and Os guy? No, but he was elite at the above (for his first dozen years here anyway). 

Mack was great at the attracting and keeping talent part, not so much the talented assistants (see: GD, Bull Reese, Mad Dog, Old Freak Nasty)

[Kel Varnsen 8458]

How well built are FAU lockers?

[MotownHorn 1759]

4 hours ago, South Austin said:

He believes in short, dry kisses that last for two seconds.

Just like my wife!

[Loop 1604 227]

23 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Lol Houston will never, ever, ever, ever bring him back after the way he left.

[MotownHorn 1759]

1 hour ago, DanTheHorn said:

I guess he did not learn. Like Bucky Godbolt said about Tom, players don't want to hear you care they want to know you care. People know you care when your actions show it otherwise the words ring hollow. He is back to saying I will love you now he just needs to start kissing them enough to convince himself he actually knows their names.

What exactly do you expect him to say at his opening public talk to the team? 

[DanTheHorn 4913]

14 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

What exactly do you expect him to say at his opening public talk to the team? 

Goals he has for the program and general expectations he has of players that have played for him. No need to say you will be loved by me and your position coaches. It does not sound sincere, it sounds like the used car salesman that says they like you that is why they are going to cut you a deal. In my view it is just a bad way to open up day one.

Edited December 2, 2022 by DanTheHorn

[redswingline 1057]

2 hours ago, Spankytoes said:

Are you saying Jesus couldn’t catch a forward pass?

 if you are referencing the joke that I think you are,

"Are you saying that Jesus can't hit a curve ball?" That's Major League, not Bull Durham. If not, then I will just add the gif for fun

 

 

 

[EastTexan 662]

what's better? kissing or head butting.

[redswingline 1057]

1 hour ago, Butch Had Not said:

Can he bring Anwar with him? Please. 

Yes, please do

 

 

[Sbbruin 21825]

1 hour ago, Butch Had Not said:

Can he bring Anwar with him? Please. 

Might be tough.  He was assassinated over 40 years ago.

 

[Sbbruin 21825]

Hopefully he's as enthusiastic about the job as Joey was.

 

[ApocalypseTexas 297]

43 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Lol Houston will never, ever, ever, ever bring him back after the way he left.

He is setting himself up to be the new Coach at Auburn in two years.  

[ousux 5595]

Interesting gig with some upside. He'll win 8-9 games there in his sleep. 
I would think he could have gotten a better job but who knows how much UT has dragged his name in the mud the past couple years. 

Hugh Freeze is back as an SEC head coach, and arguably higher profile school this time.

[CptnJiggleBits 915]

39 minutes ago, redswingline said:

Yes, please do

 

 

Dang, the knife has changed her. But still..... 

 

[Hank Chinaski 6312]

1 hour ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Mack was great at the attracting and keeping talent part, not so much the talented assistants (see: GD, Bull Reese, Mad Dog, Old Freak Nasty)

Sure, but I’d counter with guys like Akina, G Robinson, Muschamp, etc. I think once his honeymoon was over (after the 03 holiday bowl) he figured this part out a bit.

As others have stated, maybe Herman’s biggest screwup was his staff that he brought in.

[redswingline 1057]

14 minutes ago, CptnJiggleBits said:

Dang, the knife has changed her. But still.....

 

If she was knifed in those photos, she still looks good and they were minimally invasive things. Unfortunately they don't come close to the more recent hack jobs done on her face.

I will never understand how people get convinced that looking like a beat up fish is somehow better than leaving your face alone

 

 

 

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by redswingline

[6th Street 6389]

Thought he would land a better job than this. Like CU or ASU. 

[Dennis Taylor 18807]

6 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Dude still led us to the best season in 12 years and was a good coach, better than Sark for sure. His downfall was his arrogance and the quality of coaches he surrounded himself with. If he had a legit top D1 staff and smoothed out some of his rough edges a bit he would still be here.  

Sark will have more success even though he isn't nearly as good of a coach because of his ability to get and retain better talent than Tom. Tom was also too damn conservative in the true sense of the word not the bullshit current political sense. And yes the username sort of checks out

Is winning still hard?

[Tex Long 4382]

2 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Is winning still hard?

I wouldn't call it hard, but it is complex... which is difficult hard for many.

[Sbbruin 21825]

4 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Is winning still hard?

For Texas, it would appear so.

[TexArcher 37761]

9 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

For Texas, it would appear so.

 

[Horn Dog 9814]

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

Hopefully he's as enthusiastic about the job as Joey was.

 

Do they ever pan back to show the Al Qaeda gunmen who are holding him hostage?

[Davis Lane 5577]

12 hours ago, MrBig said:

He looks skinny. Cocaine & strippers or COVID from kissing?

 

"You are going to be given....."

I stopped it there.

[Brothahorn 10087]

He is setting himself up to be the new Coach at Auburn in two years.  

Aggy

[Brothahorn 10087]

For Texas, it would appear so.

[Dbeasy 15039]

I'm shocked this is as good a gig as he could get, but I shouldn't be shocked. He made some huge mistakes and wasn't able to attract a top quality staff to join him at Texas. That was a massive red flag. He can fix all of the mistakes he made, but I'm still not sure whether quality coaches will work for him. That's the key question. 

[lemonandaturd 4285]

I want to see Traylor and UTSA put a hurting on Herman and FAU in CUSA.  Humble pie will be sweet.  

[Wulaw Horn 19063]

He could get to the playoffs there without a doubt. 
top 6 ranked conference champs all make the playoffs automatically. 
That’s a high talent area. If he’s at all capable of introspection he could work his way up to another legit job. I don’t think he’s capable of introspection and change, but who knows. 

[Post Oak 20204]

 

 

[Nope 3114]

Tommy 12 Faces

[DougO 5243]

10 hours ago, redswingline said:

Yes, please do

 

 

Definitely in favor of drilling in ANWR.

[Kel Varnsen 8458]

He looks ill

[Valmy77 13225]

If FAU is ever a 9+ point favorite or underdog, it's free money.