Study: Following 5 habits extends lifespan 12-14 years on average

[Aqua Buddha 14613]

8 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Hard pass. How great are the last 15 years of my life going to be anyway?

Do it wrong and they'll be the worst 15 years of your life.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13523]

No big surprise that the medical advice is that not-so-healthy behavior should he minimized or kept in moderation and healthy behavior followed.  And it doesn’t take a Mensa member to know what is and isn’t healthy.

ive seen a few older people that did as much bad things to their body for year and now they are in horrible shape and have a  low quality of life.  If anything it’s amazing that the human body can take so much abuse and keep going on.   

 

[crash_davis 23115]

On 4/30/2018 at 6:50 PM, Bullneck said:

Food in the U.S. has changed a lot in the last 50 years.  

didn't realize they stopped making fruits and vegetables.  😉

doesn't take much effort to steam broccoli, blanch green beans, and bake chicken breast.  that's an easy healthy meal.

 

i think for men, it's the easy access to beer.  outside of work, my fat friends always have beer in hand.  they all have big arse beer guts.

 

[Neonmoon 38130]

The Rise of Carbs (aka Sugar)

The US is the largest producer of corn in the world. 13% is exported. 

1866 - 730 Million Bushels Produced

2017 - 15 Billion Bushels Produced 

Add in the emergence of preservatives in food in the 20th century, and you get more health problems

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The increasing demand for ready-to-eat fresh food products has led to challenges for food distributors regarding the safety and quality of their foods. Artificial preservatives meet some of these challenges by preserving freshness for longer periods of time, but these preservatives can cause negative side-effects as well. Sodium nitrite is a preservative used in lunch meats, hams, sausages, hot dogs, and bacon to prevent botulism. It serves the important function of controlling the bacteria that cause botulism, but sodium nitrite can react with proteins, or during cooking at high heats, to form carcinogenic N-nitrosamines.^{[6][unreliable medical source?]} It has also been linked to cancer in lab animals.^[19] The commonly used sodium benzoate has been found to extend the shelf life of bottled tomato paste to 40 weeks without loss of quality.^[7] However, it can form the carcinogen benzene when combined with vitamin C.^{[citation needed]} Many food manufacturers have reformed their products to eliminate this combination, but a risk still exists.^[19]Consumption of sodium benzoate may also cause hyperactivity. For over 30 years, there has been a debate about whether or not preservatives and other food additives can cause hyperactivity. Studies have found that there may be increases in hyperactivity amongst children who consume artificial colorings and benzoate preservatives and who are already genetically predisposed to hyperactivity, but these studies were not entirely conclusive. Hyperactivity only increased moderately, and it was not determined if the preservatives, colorings, or a combination of the two were responsible for the increase.^[20]

 

 

 

[Parliament 14316]

The "too much corn" thing is overplayed.  There are plenty of other cultures that eat more than us.  They aren't as fat.

The high-fructose corn syrup objection is the same.  The science behind it is inconclusive at best.

IMHO, it's the combination of portion size (driven by the low cost of food in America) and sedentary lifestyles.

 

Exercise is a HUGE benefit.  After a 6 month cardio layoff my resting heartrate is 15+ beats/min higher.  When I'm 3 weeks back on the wagon, it drops all the way back.  

Edited May 2, 2018 by Parliament

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

The Rise of Carbs (aka Sugar)

The US is the largest producer of corn in the world. 13% is exported. 

1866 - 730 Million Bushels Produced

2017 - 15 Billion Bushels Produced 

Add in the emergence of preservatives in food in the 20th century, and you get more health problems

 

 

Whisky don’t just fall from the sky...

[SimonBolivar 10959]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

The Rise of Carbs (aka Sugar)

The US is the largest producer of corn in the world. 13% is exported. 

1866 - 730 Million Bushels Produced

2017 - 15 Billion Bushels Produced 

Add in the emergence of preservatives in food in the 20th century, and you get more health problems

 

 

Just for reference the US population in 1860 was 31,443,321 compared to 2010 when it had 308,745,538.

1866: 22.23 bushels per person

2017: 48.58 bushels per person

 

Say that 0% were exported in 1866 (not correct, but just assuming) then you still have a large increase per person:

1866: 22.23 non-exported bushels per person

2017: 42.26 non-exported bushels per person

[South Austin 52617]

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

The "too much corn" thing is overplayed.  There are plenty of other cultures that eat more than us.  They aren't as fat.

The high-fructose corn syrup objection is the same.  The science behind it is inconclusive at best.

This is exactly what I expect someone from the Big 10 would say.

[Parliament 14316]

You have some links to refute me?

[Parliament 14316]

11 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Just for reference the US population in 1860 was 31,443,321 compared to 2010 when it had 308,745,538.

1866: 22.23 bushels per person

2017: 48.58 bushels per person

 

Say that 0% were exported in 1866 (not correct, but just assuming) then you still have a large increase per person:

1866: 22.23 non-exported bushels per person

2017: 42.26 non-exported bushels per person

Not sure what your point is?

[South Austin 52617]

9 minutes ago, Parliament said:

You have some links to refute me?

Link

[SimonBolivar 10959]

7 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Not sure what your point is?

I didn't have one other than extrapolating out the data from 1866 to make it comparable to 2017. 

[Aqua Buddha 14613]

On 4/30/2018 at 6:50 PM, Bullneck said:

Food in the U.S. has changed a lot in the last 50 years.  

Not only has it changed but the way it's consumed has changed as drastically.  Speed is almost as important as taste and much more important than nutritional value.  Frozen food has been a huge growth segment and at a lot of fast food locations, 80% of the revenue comes from the drive through.  Chick-Fil-A has done a lot of work the past 2 years to figure out how to a double lane through the drive through and churn people through even faster.

Americans just eat really shitty foods and in a lot of cases don't even want to get out of their cars to do it.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13523]

37 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Not only has it changed but the way it's consumed has changed as drastically.  Speed is almost as important as taste and much more important than nutritional value.  Frozen food has been a huge growth segment and at a lot of fast food locations, 80% of the revenue comes from the drive through.  Chick-Fil-A has done a lot of work the past 2 years to figure out how to a double lane through the drive through and churn people through even faster.

Americans just eat really shitty foods and in a lot of cases don't even want to get out of their cars to do it.

Besides convenience, drive thrus allow people to hide the fact that they're eating 3 Big Macs or even eating at McDonalds at all.

[clapclapclap 9000]

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Not sure what your point is?

He doesn't like your cornographic posts?

[crash_davis 23115]

you can eat shit food everyday.  if you eat the right portion, you're not going to get obese.  dude ate mcdonalds every and still lost weight.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10

 

all these talk about corn, sugar, type of food, etc is all just excuses.  moderation seems to be a skill lost on many people.

 

[Parliament 14316]

Bro, do you even Adkins Diet?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13523]

2 hours ago, crash_davis said:

you can eat shit food everyday.  if you eat the right portion, you're not going to get obese.  dude ate mcdonalds every and still lost weight.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10

 

all these talk about corn, sugar, type of food, etc is all just excuses.  moderation seems to be a skill lost on many people.

 

I guess but this thread is mainly about living longer/healthier not being thin.  

[Neonmoon 38130]

3 hours ago, crash_davis said:

you can eat shit food everyday.  if you eat the right portion, you're not going to get obese.  dude ate mcdonalds every and still lost weight.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10

 

all these talk about corn, sugar, type of food, etc is all just excuses.  moderation seems to be a skill lost on many people.

 

Yes. If you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. Welcome to Science. 

It is still not healthy 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Just for reference the US population in 1860 was 31,443,321 compared to 2010 when it had 308,745,538.

1866: 22.23 bushels per person

2017: 48.58 bushels per person

 

Say that 0% were exported in 1866 (not correct, but just assuming) then you still have a large increase per person:

1866: 22.23 non-exported bushels per person

2017: 42.26 non-exported bushels per person

we eat less than half of what is produced... not that we ate all that was produced in 1866 either, but they weren't cranking out biofuels and the sort like we do now.

http://www.worldofcorn.com/#corn-usage-by-segment

 

It's weird as fuck how corn is Satan for the foodies...

Edited May 2, 2018 by slorch

[El Diablo 4232]

5 hours ago, South Austin said:

This is exactly what I expect someone from the Big 10 would say.

More like Big Corn, amirite? There are so many more food options available today than there were 60 years ago. HFCS and sugar are in a shit ton of foods but people just don't read labels Kids and adults both develop a taste for the sweetness even when they don't realize that they're eating it. They're just drawn to foods that taste good to them and it's sugar that's driving their palate.

[SimonBolivar 10959]

43 minutes ago, slorch said:

we eat less than half of what is produced... not that we ate all that was produced in 1866 either, but they weren't cranking out biofuels and the sort like we do now.

http://www.worldofcorn.com/#corn-usage-by-segment

 

It's weird as fuck how corn is Satan for the foodies...

Good point about biofuels. Was corn a big feed crop in the 19th century? I wouldn't imagine so with logistic problems.

 

I think the hatred of corn comes from HFCS being added to shit and that is just like adding sugar to things that you don't think of as having added sugar. 

Edited May 2, 2018 by SimonBolivar

[South Austin 52617]

2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I think the hatred of corn comes from HFCS being added to shit and that is just like adding sugar to things that you don't think of as having added sugar. 

And it shows up in our shit.

[Parliament 14316]

I don't have links for this, so please just trust me.  Until the mid-50's or so, most of the corn produced was fed to livestock on the farm.  Ie, they "walked it off the farm."  Corn yields inflected up around WW2, with the advent of commercial nitrogen.

That, and technological improvements in harvest and storage, meant more and more raw corn left the farm.  Commercial livestock production boomed, we started exporting more food of every kind, and we started getting fat.

If corn is to blame, the connection is everything but direct.  As you can see above, corn yields have risen dramatically (and continue to do so).  As yields go up, cost of production (per bushel) goes down.  Most corn is fed to livestock, so livestock production costs go down, and meat gets cheaper.   (Remember Hoover's "a chicken in every pot," statement?  Back then chickens were expensive.  Today, chicken is significantly lower cost that beef.)

There is definitely a trend towards fresher, healthier, more nutrient-dense food today.  Low-linoleic soybeans, high-oleic canola and sunflowers are examples.  Lots of work to do still, for sure. 

 

ETA

I'm no fan of HFCS.  Not because it's inherently dangerous, but because it, and regular sugar, is put in EVERYTHING.

Edited May 3, 2018 by Parliament