The Trial of Derek Chauvin

[Skipper 6135]

9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 

Personally I think that America has never been more aligned on a potential verdict for a case with such strong racial background issues. Which is progress.

**Excluding the racist fucks on Orangebloods and Texags

[Aqua Buddha 14598]

Civil rights attorney David Henderson on CNBC is a UT law grad and lives in Austin.  Chances of him posting here are like 90%.  

[Ghost of LL 15531]

16 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

No shit.  I haven't been this nervous since 4th and 5.

Completely different.  With 4th & 5, I was nervous.  But at the same time, I kind of knew Vince would score and I was incredibly eager to see how he was going to do it.

On this, it's nervous mixed with a sense of impending doom.  It's more like the kick-off of every Texas-OU game for the past decade.

[Guest Lobo]

Just now, Captainant said:

who's gonna start the new riot shitposting and dogwhistle thread of dominance?

 

"Meh, damn jury only came back with that verdict to avoid watching their city burn.  They caved to pressure from the media, Maxine Waters, and BLM!" 

Do you think their verdict may have also been swayed by watching the defendant slowly kill the deceased on a vetted and reliable multi-angle video?  

"I dunno, maybe.  I'm gonna go, good luck with your firings.  I hope they go really well."  

[ChickenSandwich 9841]

2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

who's gonna start the new riot shitposting and dogwhistle thread of dominance?

Your January 6th thread is probably enough for the whole website. Hope it only last few hours for the citizens sake. 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10255]

5 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

What do you say?  Riots regardless?

yes, media is setting up an expectation of guilty on all 3 when its very likely to be guilty but not of all three.

Crowd will feed on any "not guilty" 

[JBJ 3654]

My call:

Murder 2 - Guilty

Murder 3 - Not Guilty

Manslaughter 2 - Guilty

[TexasHooch 5122]

There's a shit ton of National Guard here.  The cameras will find the dipshits who just want to be assholes, but there won't be enough passion to overcome the security unless he's not convicted of murder.

Edited April 20, 2021 by TexasHooch

[Gatorubet 30246]

My call:
Murder 2 - Guilty
Murder 3 - Not Guilty
Manslaughter 2 - Guilty

Murder 3

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

14 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I disagree with an opinion on CNN that this verdict somehow reflects America. It reflects what 12 people thought. 

A guilty verdict on Chauvin doesn't make America less racist or that our problems are solved. And a not guilty verdict does not make America worse than it was this morning. 

Personally I think that America has never been more aligned on a potential verdict for a case with such strong racial background issues. Which is progress.

Of course you're right.  But CNN (and others in media) want this to be THE be all / end all...until the next thing that is THE be all / end all.  That's the way news networks work. It's definitely important but a guilty verdict isn't ' yay, we aren't racist POS anymore!'...

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

7 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

What do you say?  Riots regardless?

[DaggerHorns 3085]

5 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Civil rights attorney David Henderson on CNBC is a UT law grad and lives in Austin.  Chances of him posting here are like 90%.  

A regular dickhead, eh?

[Johnny Sack 8397]

Murder 2 and Manslaughter.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19103]

If he is found not guilty, this country explodes.

[Guest Lobo]

Chauvin broke the world, not the people gathered in that city tonight. 

[Captainant 27679]

Just now, Johnny Sack said:

Murder 2 and Manslaughter.

just to clarify: the ruling isn't out yet (I first read this as that was the jury decision)

[BabaYaga 15300]

2 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

New chapter in the playbook has been written

[Ghost of LL 15531]

Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

If he is found not guilty, this country explodes.

With justification.

[TexasHooch 5122]

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

Murder 2 and Manslaughter.

You've been consistent on Manslaughter.  What swayed you on murder?

[Enchubben 5510]

Just now, Johnny Sack said:

Murder 2 and Manslaughter.

+1 - I think this is what seems appropriate based solely on a reasonableness test with absolute zero knowledge of criminal law or MN statute.

[Ojo Rojo 1965]

Hold onto your butts.

My call:  Guilty on all three counts.

I'll be honest, I thought before and during the early parts of the trial that they were going to have difficulty with causation.  The coroner's report, toxicology report, other medical issues, etc. combined with the BARD evidentiary standard I thought was just going to be too high of a bar.  But the prosecution and their experts have really done an excellent job.

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by Ojo Rojo

[gmr548 16580]

Completely different.  With 4th & 5, I was nervous.  But at the same time, I kind of knew Vince would score and I was incredibly eager to see how he was going to do it.
On this, it's nervous mixed with a sense of impending doom.  It's more like the kick-off of every Texas-OU game for the past decade.

JFC don’t football the CR/DT. Have you no decency?

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1084]

1 minute ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Hold onto your butts.

 

And just in time for the drive home, wherever you are.

[nineliveslost 2760]

Man, I am going back and forth between Murder 2 or 3.... I think 3 now

[WillUSAF 226]

we should have made this into a drinking game

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

I think he gets Murder 5. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

3 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

You've been consistent on Manslaughter.  What swayed you on murder?

I just think it is what the jury will do.  His knee on Floyd for 5 minutes post him passing out/losing consciousness.  I also did not realize the agg assault that caused death could be the underlying felony to sustain murder 2.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Just now, Hank Scorpio said:

I think he gets Murder 5. 

Murder 4th and 5.

[Sawbonz 27565]

14 minutes ago, JBJ said:

It's either Murder 2 or acquittal.

If they were going to acquit, I think they at least dick around a couple of days to make it look good and get some free hotel time

[TexArcher 37861]

This delay combined with the frantic barricading and fencing near the police station makes me nervous.

Stupid question: it's not possible to leak a not guilty verdict to the other authorities to give them time to prepare, right?

[Ojo Rojo 1965]

1 minute ago, WillUSAF said:

we should have made this into a drinking game

Or a betting pool.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

6 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Chauvin broke the world, not the people gathered in that city tonight. 

Any asshole who loots and commits arson is independently responsible for their bullshit.  And I will feel as much sympathy if the property owner turns their head into a canoe as I did for that woman who was shot by capital police on Jan 6.

[gmr548 16580]

This delay combined with the frantic barricading and fencing near the police station makes me nervous.
Stupid question: it's not possible to leak a not guilty verdict to the other authorities to give them time to prepare, right?

If it was, I feel like there’s a zero percent chance that wouldn’t get out instantly.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

This delay combined with the frantic barricading and fencing near the police station makes me nervous.

Stupid question: it's not possible to leak a not guilty verdict to the other authorities to give them time to prepare, right?

Highly unlikely.

[Guest Lobo]

Check, Check. 

Murder 2, Murder 3.

Check, Check.

Sibilance.  Sibilance.  

[JBJ 3654]

3 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If they were going to acquit, I think they at least dick around a couple of days to make it look good and get some free hotel time

I feel it's the opposite in this case.  If they think Chauvin was lawful, all three charges are decided quickly.

Even if they found him guilty of Murder 2 quickly, they would need to walk through the other charges.

Edited April 20, 2021 by JBJ

[UTGrad98 2276]

I'm waiting on the refresh where there is 26 new replies. Then I know something happened. 

[DDD Dad 14339]

42 minutes ago, B1G said:

I am betting on hung jury.

I'll take that bet.

[Nicole44 22060]

Y’all must not have watched any verdicts be announced. He will be found guilty and i wouldn’t doubt being found guilty of more than one charge. Faith grasshoppers!

[Pancho 44833]

Personally, I'm numb waiting for this. 

We've been let down so many times before so I'm just expecting not guilty. 

I'm not a law bro, but all the law bros on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC keep saying a quick verdict is good for the defense typically. 

[Deej 76806]

2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

This delay combined with the frantic barricading and fencing near the police station makes me nervous.

Stupid question: it's not possible to leak a not guilty verdict to the other authorities to give them time to prepare, right?

You don't remember the OJ jailer telling OJ to not worry, because one of his buddies handling the jury told him the verdict?

[WillUSAF 226]

here it comes!!!

[WhatTheBuck 28783]

Here we go...

[CooterBrown 18014]

Just now, Nicole44 said:

Y’all must not have watched any verdicts be announced. He will be found guilty and i wouldn’t doubt being found guilty of more than one charge. Faith grasshoppers!

Yeah, I remember watching the OJ verdict...

[Captainant 27679]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Any asshole who loots and commits arson is independently responsible for their bullshit.  And I will feel as much sympathy if the property owner turns their head into a canoe as I did for that woman who was shot by capital police on Jan 6.

Hopefully there's no white nationalists out inciting like last time in Minneapolis, right?

https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272/

[MissingInAction 25103]

Here we go

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

ALL RISE

[JBJ 3654]

Before the thread explodes...I want to point out this was a good judge.

[Guest Lobo]

Some people are gonna celebrate the verdict tonight.  A few of them will get out of hand and should be held accountable.  But for the most part, this will be a reasonable and cathartic release.  And within a week, another black man will be killed for no reason by police.  And within a week, we'll have another mass shooting.  Not much will change.  But it's a start.

[Neonmoon 38129]

Guilty