So, back to that legalization thing

[Voldemort86 2259]

Louisiana is going to vote on a bill to legalize soon and Oklahoma still might legalize medical for out of state residents.  We still might get some exciting news before June if things go well.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

16 hours ago, bolverk said:

Decriminalized - so they just give the "offender" a ticket instead of shoving them in the slammer. Essentially, that's what we have in a number of major Texas counties: Travis, Bexar, Harris, Dallas, and El Paso.

Moreover, Austin City Council voted last January to order APD to not even ticket anyone for anything under 4 ounces, which is an absolute shitload of weed. So, for most tokers, the possession of maryjane is essentially legal now within the city limits.

that's adorable

Edited May 18, 2021 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20494]

12 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

that's adorable

Yeah, kids today, huh?

 

Back in my day the girls at school wouldn't even talk to you if you weren't carrying a kilo and we had to walk to school 2.5 miles through a hail of Narco gunfire.

[Red Six 131]

16 hours ago, bolverk said:

Decriminalized - so they just give the "offender" a ticket instead of shoving them in the slammer. Essentially, that's what we have in a number of major Texas counties: Travis, Bexar, Harris, Dallas, and El Paso.

Moreover, Austin City Council voted last January to order APD to not even ticket anyone for anything under 4 ounces, which is an absolute shitload of weed. So, for most tokers, the possession of maryjane is essentially legal now within the city limits.

Travis DA is currently rejecting state jail felony MJ cases, i.e., < 5#.

I don't recommend trying that in any other county, though.

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

58 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

Louisiana is going to vote on a bill to legalize soon and Oklahoma still might legalize medical for out of state residents.  We still might get some exciting news before June if things go well.

It's been a couple years since I covered Louisiana for work, but back then LSU was one of my customers. I was told by a guy high up in their Ag department that LSU had a plan to be a major player in legal weed in Louisiana. They felt like it could solve a lot of their budget issues, and they already had plenty of rural land they could use for greenhouses. Can you imagine if aggy got involved in weed in Texas? It would be maroon, wouldn't get you high, and would probably give you the shits or something. 

[BigHorn'13 3387]

17 hours ago, bolverk said:

Decriminalized - so they just give the "offender" a ticket instead of shoving them in the slammer. Essentially, that's what we have in a number of major Texas counties: Travis, Bexar, Harris, Dallas, and El Paso.

Moreover, Austin City Council voted last January to order APD to not even ticket anyone for anything under 4 ounces, which is an absolute shitload of weed. So, for most tokers, the possession of maryjane is essentially legal now within the city limits.

This is/ was Biden's view on marijuana and the main cause for confusion for people. They don't get that it doesn't matter too much which states legalize and which don't. As long as it remains a schedule one substance (a higher class than cocaine and in the same class as heroine,) it means fuck all. Consumers still are being subjected to unnecessary risks and sellers still can't participate in banking institutions and run the daily risk of being raided by the DEA.

 

We need this resolved at the federal level before this prohibition can be considered over. And sorry to "both sides" this issue but it's undisputed that Democrats are just as much a barrier (albeit moreso at the federal level) to legalization as Republicans. I think big pharma and other powerful lobbying groups (especially private prisons) has a lot to do with this but still, it's an issue that needs to be driven home for both parties. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

I have said this all along - the party that decriminalizes will gain a ton of new voters and devotees. It goes way beyond recreation and its benefit to to everyone cannot be understated. It's way past time for this and the party that maneuvers to decriminalize will become even more powerful.

[Voldemort86 2259]

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I have said this all along - the party that decriminalizes will gain a ton of new voters and devotees. It goes way beyond recreation and its benefit to to everyone cannot be understated. It's way past time for this and the party that maneuvers to decriminalize will become even more powerful.

It should happen federally during the Biden presidency, but I’m not certain that it actually will.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4977]

10 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I have said this all along - the party that decriminalizes will gain a ton of new voters and devotees. It goes way beyond recreation and its benefit to to everyone cannot be understated. It's way past time for this and the party that maneuvers to decriminalize will become even more powerful.

Yeah, but it's not just a single party, at least at the state level. Twenty years from now there will be a Republican candidate for president (assuming the party is still around) who will say that they helped lead the way for legalization in their state. And it will resonate with their base. This is an issue that transcends political parties on every level except the one that matters most.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

19 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Yeah, but it's not just a single party, at least at the state level. Twenty years from now there will be a Republican candidate for president (assuming the party is still around) who will say that they helped lead the way for legalization in their state. And it will resonate with their base. This is an issue that transcends political parties on every level except the one that matters most.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/dea-finally-ends-fed-monopoly-on-schwaggy-research-grade-cannabis

[Hornius Emeritus 12488]

Shot down in Louisiana.

[bluto 4942]

Shot down in Louisiana.

By a vote of 48-47
“The Advocate reports the Louisiana Sheriffs Association helped kill the proposal.”

[CooterBrown 18029]

If I was Biden, I would say something like "following the example of states like Oklahoma and Alabama, we will legal weed at the federal level..."  Good luck to Fox News on spinning red states in a bad light.

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

[mchookem 16386]

who's a good boy?? 🐕

[Bama Chick 28596]

Yep.

How great would it be to adopt one of those good boys/girls??

He/She would be a great little guard dog, probably loyal as hell, excellently trained, AND could sniff out some good weed for you???

SIGN ME UP!

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

19 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Yep.

How great would it be to adopt one of those good boys/girls??

He/She would be a great little guard dog, probably loyal as hell, excellently trained, AND could sniff out some good weed for you???

SIGN ME UP!

I can't bring a snitch into this house!

[Bama Chick 28596]

They’ll be retired!!!

No snitching from those good dogs!

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

once a cop, always a cop

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

On 5/17/2021 at 7:14 PM, bolverk said:

Updated map

Seriously? NC is decriminalized? I'll see y'all in the gardening thread....

 

 

Edit:  Shit. Half an ounce or less. I guess I'll have to put off the expansion of my herb garden for a few more legislative sessions at minimum.

Edited May 31, 2021 by Walden Ponderer

[RPM 26354]

On 5/29/2021 at 10:22 PM, Bama Chick said:

He/She would be a great little guard dog, probably loyal as hell, excellently trained, AND could sniff out some good weed for you???

Highly questionable. As long as they get a treat, it's primo.

[Voldemort86 2259]

Is anyone else surprised the Carolinas haven’t done full medical by now?
 

they don’t seem as Trumpy and stupid as states like Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana.

[Bama Chick 28596]

I imagine NC is taking the lead of their tobacco conglomerates.

SC - outside of Charleston - is Trumpy AF.

They were the assholes that cling to keeping the Stars and Bars on all government property long past all other states too.

Also see - Lindsay Graham and Tim Scott.

They get lost in the conversation of which state has the worst senators. They get overshadowed by Alabama (sob, I miss Doug Jones), Texas, and Kentucky.

[Voldemort86 2259]

23 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I imagine NC is taking the lead of their tobacco conglomerates.

SC - outside of Charleston - is Trumpy AF.

They were the assholes that cling to keeping the Stars and Bars on all government property long past all other states too.

Also see - Lindsay Graham and Tim Scott.

They get lost in the conversation of which state has the worst senators. They get overshadowed by Alabama (sob, I miss Doug Jones), Texas, and Kentucky.

You’re right……. Tim Scott is the fucking worst. I really hate that guy for some reason. 
 

I guess it’s all the trump cock sucking the man did the last 2 years. 

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

3 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

imagine NC is taking the lead of their tobacco conglomerates.

See, I would think these guys would be chomping at the bit to expand their product line and market.  A big tobacco company already has the packaging, distribution and marketing set up.  They could mass market weed and sell it side by side with cigarettes and dip.  Rednecks would eat that shit up.  

[bolverk 29721]

News from south of the border (short article):

Quote

The legalization effort began three years ago when the Supreme Court ruled that a previous law banning the recreational use of marijuana was unconstitutional. But while the lower chamber of Congress signed a legalization bill that also enjoys the support of Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, and Morena, the ruling party, the measure to turn the country into the world’s largest legal marijuana market seems stuck.

tl/dr: It sounds they're stuck in limbo on rules for how to regulate it with some concerned that the regulations themselves will end up with cops extorting from growers.

[Voldemort86 2259]

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/louisiana-bill-to-legalize-smokable-medical-marijuana-heads-to-governors-desk/
 

lousiana very close to allowing medical patients to access smokable marijuana. They might also decriminalize possession of 14 grams or less before the legislative session ends.

lousiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Mexico all have way more advanced marijuana programs than Texas. Fucking Dan Patrick.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

47 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/louisiana-bill-to-legalize-smokable-medical-marijuana-heads-to-governors-desk/
 

lousiana very close to allowing medical patients to access smokable marijuana. They might also decriminalize possession of 14 grams or less before the legislative session ends.

lousiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Mexico all have way more advanced marijuana programs than Texas. Fucking Dan Patrick.

and the great irony is all the revenue the state is losing to its neighbors. shit, the last stuff I bought was from Oregon - 2000 miles away. Does that seem efficient to you?

[Bama Chick 28596]

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/louisiana-bill-to-legalize-smokable-medical-marijuana-heads-to-governors-desk/
 
lousiana very close to allowing medical patients to access smokable marijuana. They might also decriminalize possession of 14 grams or less before the legislative session ends.
lousiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Mexico all have way more advanced marijuana programs than Texas. Fucking Dan Patrick.

Add Alabama. The lege passed medical a
couple of weeks ago and Governor MeeMaw signed it.

[lmao 178]

So there is no way this administration is going to legalize it federally is there? Why hasn't there been more pressure on this admin? Why didn't they receive more criticism for firing staffers for using (possibly legal at the time) marijuana?

"frustrating staffers who were pleased by initial indications from the Biden administration that recreational use of cannabis would not be immediately disqualifying for would-be personnel, according to three people familiar with the situation."

This was wrong on so many levels. 

 

[Voldemort86 2259]

Biden just seems to be the last democrat out there who doesn’t like marijuana.  It’s very unfortunate, but it’s better than the alternative of trump being in power and everyone always worrying if he will try to crackdown.

[Bookman 4642]

Does the Senate have 60 votes to pass it?

[kevwun 15899]

The senate doesn’t have 60 votes on a resolution stating the sky is blue.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13523]

What helps and hurts these legislature efforts is that the average American just doesn’t care.

[DDD Dad 14351]

On 6/1/2021 at 11:40 AM, dingleberryswitzer said:

See, I would think these guys would be chomping at the bit to expand their product line and market.  A big tobacco company already has the packaging, distribution and marketing set up.  They could mass market weed and sell it side by side with cigarettes and dip.  Rednecks would eat that shit up.  

Champing

[Voldemort86 2259]

3 hours ago, Bookman said:

Does the Senate have 60 votes to pass it?

I can think of probably 53-54, but……. That’s not 60.

[Js1 85576]

3 hours ago, Bookman said:

Does the Senate have 60 votes to pass it?

I dunno, it's hard to figure out.  When Cynthia Lummis (WY) and Rand Paul (KY) are open to it, something close to 60 must exist.

But I'd say they'd probably be open it as long as it doesn't expunge the records of people currently in prison for it bc TOUGH ON CRIME.  And black people being let out of jail. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

something I have often wondered: who actually has the power to decriminalize? are multiple entities able to do it? an executive order doesn't get it done, right? guess I'm a little fuzzy on who's authority the decision rests

Edited June 3, 2021 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Kilgorehorn 308]

Where it is medically legal, how do doctors prescribe it.

[Js1 85576]

4 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

something I have often wondered: who actually has the power to decriminalize? are multiple entities able to do it? an executive order doesn't get it done, right? guess I'm a little fuzzy on who's authority the decision rests

Congress can decriminalize.

I think all Biden can do is re-schedule or de-schedule it. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

$7.9B. Holy shit. And that's "legal" weed. Imagine of all the black market buyers were able to buy legally. Sheesh. Moolah moolah

 

[mchookem 16386]

Amazon to no longer screen for marijuana use.

https://www.shrm.org/ResourcesAndTools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/Pages/Amazon-Drops-Marijuana-Screening.aspx

huh. tbh i didn't think anybody bothered with that anymore. i've had friends that partake that had to 'drug test' for new jobs (banking, IT) and neither were DQ'd for it, i just assumed nobody cared about it anymore. 

well, good for Amazon.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Amazon to no longer screen for marijuana use.
https://www.shrm.org/ResourcesAndTools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/Pages/Amazon-Drops-Marijuana-Screening.aspx
huh. tbh i didn't think anybody bothered with that anymore. i've had friends that partake that had to 'drug test' for new jobs (banking, IT) and neither were DQ'd for it, i just assumed nobody cared about it anymore. 
well, good for Amazon.

Every oil and gas company does. Usually hair test. Every engineering firm does. Whether you are in the office or the field. White collar and blue collar. That is millions of jobs (corrected).

[Js1 85576]

5 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Every oil and gas company does. Usually hair test. Every engineering firm does. Whether you are in the office or the field. White collar and blue collar. That is hundreds of thousands of jobs.

Yep.  My good buddy (Petroleum Eng.) is about to be back on the job market and can't partake. 

[kevwun 15899]

I know someone who used to work in the field for Schlumberger.  He said they didn’t do normal layoffs.  When they needed to cut back,  they would just have a round of random drug testing and fire anyone who failed.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I know someone who used to work in the field for Schlumberger.  He said they didn’t do normal layoffs.  When they needed to cut back,  they would just have a round of random drug testing and fire anyone who failed.

fucked up. hilarious, but fucked up.

[CooterBrown 18029]

Every oil and gas company does. Usually hair test. Every engineering firm does. Whether you are in the office or the field. White collar and blue collar. That is millions of jobs (corrected).

Yep. It’s because of the DOT requirements for pipeline safety.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Yep. It’s because of the DOT requirements for pipeline safety.

Yeah. But also goes beyond that. Offshore stuff as well.

However, more than once I have seen drunk managers in the office (engineering). But anyone in the industry partaking in anything with THC on the weekend, nope, can’t do that.

Some of it is DOT and other safety stuff, some of is the fact that O&G is a very, very conservative industry.

[BigHorn'13 3387]

13 hours ago, Js1 said:

Yep.  My good buddy (Petroleum Eng.) is about to be back on the job market and can't partake. 

https://urineluck.com/

Piss tests are a waste of time and money. I feel sorry for anyone who still hasn't figured out how to beat them.