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  On 1/26/2025 at 9:49 PM, Rimbo said:

explain what's goin on here

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people who definitely don't want to talk politics decided imma's decision was about politics and then talked politics for 3 pages, and then imma decided to make an embed of the thing that he didn't like.

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Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:04 PM, Zeus said:

CNN says Elon is hitler because of his autistic arm movement (or he did it on purpose to get attention). 
 

Surly removes the ability to embed x posts because eLoN iS a NaZi! 
 

Now some odd attempt to half-fix it back where it doesn’t link to the x post it poops out a screen shot of the post instead. 
 

I guess just post x links and click thru if you wanna share a video 

 

https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1883629135781876172?s=46

 

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Its intentional not to link to the X post, its also not a half fix, it allows for the recruiting board where recruits commit etc to continue and be significantly higher performance and allows for people who also have Twitter blocked to be able to see the posts that were embedded. This also allows for deleted posts to stick around, and it allows for us to control everything about the media embed. 

So it's not half assed at all, it's just getting away from the platform in a way that works for the community until recruits also leave. 

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Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:04 PM, Zeus said:

CNN says Elon is hitler because of his autistic arm movement (or he did it on purpose to get attention). 

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My guy, elon is speaking at the neonazi rallies in Germany by teleconference. It's not just his seig heil, but that's certainly been the straw that broke the camels back.

It's pretty fucked up to imply that all autistic people are neonazis and love hitler, not gonna lie. 

 

Also, since elmo took over Twitter has steadily worse performance and fewer features without logging in. The tweet embedding feature was meaningfully slowing the site and page loads down in threads with a lot of tweets. That's not the case with other embeds, twitter was pretty exquisitely enshittified

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  On 1/26/2025 at 10:14 PM, elfenix said:

people who definitely don't want to talk politics decided imma's decision was about politics and then talked politics for 3 pages, and then imma decided to make an embed of the thing that he didn't like.

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Not what happened. 

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iow: the new embed should help prevent the issue where a thread has a bunch of xits in it which load kinda slow which makes the thread jump around all over. now surly is hosting the image of the xit so the thread should load faster for users.

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  On 1/26/2025 at 10:16 PM, immamac said:

Its intentional not to link to the X post, its also not a half fix, it allows for the recruiting board where recruits commit etc to continue and be significantly higher performance and allows for people who also have Twitter blocked to be able to see the posts that were embedded. This also allows for deleted posts to stick around, and it allows for us to control everything about the media embed. 

So it's not half assed at all, it's just getting away from the platform in a way that works for the community until recruits also leave. 

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Just make it the way it was, or make a work around that works.

Why wouldn’t you want to host a replay within the thread?

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Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:14 PM, elfenix said:

people who definitely don't want to talk politics decided imma's decision was about politics and then talked politics for 3 pages, and then imma decided to make an embed of the thing that he didn't like.

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lol he called x a nazi website on the home page 

pretty sure that was the lefty talking point at the time

but they’ve moved on to calling someone else hitler or racist or whatever now

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Posted (edited)
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:40 PM, Zeus said:

lol he called x a nazi website on the home page 

pretty sure that was the lefty talking point at the time

but they’ve moved on to calling someone else hitler or racist or whatever now

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go bitch in CR. you and the other dipshits clearly want to talk politics but do it everywhere but in the correct part of the board.

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Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:18 PM, Captainant said:

My guy, elon is speaking at the neonazi rallies in Germany by teleconference. It's not just his seig heil, but that's certainly been the straw that broke the camels back.

It's pretty fucked up to imply that all autistic people are neonazis and love hitler, not gonna lie. 

 

Also, since elmo took over Twitter has steadily worse performance and fewer features without logging in. The tweet embedding feature was meaningfully slowing the site and page loads down in threads with a lot of tweets. That's not the case with other embeds, twitter was pretty exquisitely enshittified

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I missed the neonazi rallies in Germany lol, I thought you were goofin but are you being serious?

 Is it this kind of nazi propaganda?
 

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Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:43 PM, Zeus said:

 

I missed the neonazi rallies in Germany lol, I thought you were goofin but are you being serious?

 Is it this kind of nazi propaganda?
 

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No, like he showed up on screen at an AfD rally and delivered remarks about how Germany should stop feeling so bad about what happened in the past

  On 1/25/2025 at 10:44 PM, Captainant said:
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  On 1/26/2025 at 10:41 PM, elfenix said:

go bitch in CR. you and the other dipshits clearly want to talk politics but do it everywhere but in the correct part of the board.

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Cloak room is more regarded than Reddit. The thread is site improvements and the “improvement” was a childish political move to break the forum instead of improve it.

If performance was the issue you could just always spoiler embeds. Instead it was removing embeds from one platform and calling it a nazi platform on the front page. 
 

 

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Posted (edited)
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:47 PM, Zeus said:

Cloak room is more regarded than Reddit. The thread is site improvements and the “improvement” was a childish political move to break the forum instead of improve it.

If performance was the issue you could just always spoiler embeds. Instead it was removing embeds from one platform and calling it a nazi platform on the front page. 
 

 

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spoilered twitter embeds are fucked up because the spoiler loads without knowing the content size. so, no, that doesn't work.

 

your continued politically motivated whinging anywhere but the place for it (CR) is childish.

 

 

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Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:47 PM, Zeus said:

Cloak room is more regarded than Reddit. The thread is site improvements and the “improvement” was a childish political move to break the forum instead of improve it.

If performance was the issue you could just always spoiler embeds. Instead it was removing embeds from one platform and calling it a nazi platform on the front page. 
 

 

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Dude believe it or not, making a stand against Nazi owned anything is apolitical. 

Also I've bitched about Twitter embeds for years, it's well documented as a huge issue for site performance. 

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Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:04 PM, Zeus said:

CNN says Elon is hitler because of his autistic arm movement (or he did it on purpose to get attention). 
 

Surly removes the ability to embed x posts because eLoN iS a NaZi! 
 

Now some odd attempt to half-fix it back where it doesn’t link to the x post it poops out a screen shot of the post instead. 
 

I guess just post x links and click thru if you wanna share a video 

 

https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1883629135781876172?s=46

 

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Whiny and not useful.

  On 1/26/2025 at 10:14 PM, elfenix said:

people who definitely don't want to talk politics decided imma's decision was about politics and then talked politics for 3 pages, and then imma decided to make an embed of the thing that he didn't like.

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Not useful.

  On 1/26/2025 at 10:16 PM, immamac said:

Its intentional not to link to the X post, its also not a half fix, it allows for the recruiting board where recruits commit etc to continue and be significantly higher performance and allows for people who also have Twitter blocked to be able to see the posts that were embedded. This also allows for deleted posts to stick around, and it allows for us to control everything about the media embed. 

So it's not half assed at all, it's just getting away from the platform in a way that works for the community until recruits also leave. 

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OK that's more useful. I'm looking for the nerd "what is happening" not the CR BS "what is happening."

Anyway... So basically you've set up a proxy/cache of X so that when people load tweets, it comes from your servers instead of theirs, so that X's shitty performance doesn't impact Surly's. Right?

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  On 1/27/2025 at 12:45 AM, Rimbo said:

Whiny and not useful.

Not useful.

OK that's more useful. I'm looking for the nerd "what is happening" not the CR BS "what is happening."

Anyway... So basically you've set up a proxy/cache of X so that when people load tweets, it comes from your servers instead of theirs, so that X's shitty performance doesn't impact Surly's. Right?

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Correct the first load for the screenshot takes close to 3s because Twitter sucks embedding after it exists already is instant. 

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I've discovered the fastest way in a browser is just to go to the surlyx link and copy the generated image URL and paste it in. 

Doesn't work if you copy from app, but it's great if you use browser. 

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MULEDICK!

Another workaround to remember.

You could've just copied Discord and used fixupx instead!  Then that would be one less workaround to remember, rather than every site making up their own branded workaround.  Lulz. 

Posted
  On 1/27/2025 at 1:26 AM, BachelorTrek said:

MULEDICK!

Another workaround to remember.

You could've just copied Discord and used fixupx instead!  Then that would be one less workaround to remember, rather than every site making up their own branded workaround.  Lulz. 

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What is fixupx? 

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  On 1/27/2025 at 1:26 AM, BachelorTrek said:

MULEDICK!

Another workaround to remember.

You could've just copied Discord and used fixupx instead!  Then that would be one less workaround to remember, rather than every site making up their own branded workaround.  Lulz. 

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It looks like that still uses hosted media and everything from Twitter servers it just bypasses the embed and directly publishes the resource. If it gets deleted from Twitter or put behind paywall/throttle it still breaks. 

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:59 AM, Brian Fantana said:

There are some services that act as a passthrough for Twitter embeds to work better in Discord and such, because Twitter's embeds are garbage. You just replace the x.com URL with fixupx.com or fxtwitter.com

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Yeah, but it seems they are just a different embed client. 

Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 9:45 PM, Zeus said:

When you click it it also doesn’t take you to the post…

Just breaking something that used to work then “fixing” it in a way that doesn’t work anymore. For what exactly? 
 

 

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Nazis, you dumb fuck.

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Here's my .02:

Reddit embeds are the HUGEST sucks, as they often take 15-30 seconds to load.  Twitter is significantly less.  But now that you've gone the SurlyX route, you're using a newly registered (1/25/2025 registration date) CDN as a hosting site.  This causes many firewalls to block traffic, as all mine block 'newly registered domains' for security purposes.  

Posted
  On 1/26/2025 at 10:45 PM, Captainant said:

No, like he showed up on screen at an AfD rally and delivered remarks about how Germany should stop feeling so bad about what happened in the past

 

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Just noting that the guy who questioned Elon showing up at a nazi rally has no comment to evidence confirming it.

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:36 PM, PvilleStang said:

Here's my .02:

Reddit embeds are the HUGEST sucks, as they often take 15-30 seconds to load.  Twitter is significantly less.  But now that you've gone the SurlyX route, you're using a newly registered (1/25/2025 registration date) CDN as a hosting site.  This causes many firewalls to block traffic, as all mine block 'newly registered domains' for security purposes.  

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Not a CDN. I host everything out of my own rack. I can cname a surly subdomain just as easily if you want for the embed hosting itself. 

That's also not my fucking problem and is actually a stupid fucking way to do firewall configuration. 

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  On 1/27/2025 at 2:36 PM, PvilleStang said:

Here's my .02:

Reddit embeds are the HUGEST sucks, as they often take 15-30 seconds to load.  Twitter is significantly less.  But now that you've gone the SurlyX route, you're using a newly registered (1/25/2025 registration date) CDN as a hosting site.  This causes many firewalls to block traffic, as all mine block 'newly registered domains' for security purposes.  

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I'm working on a way to self host embed all oembeds with a static loader and rich media. 

Baby steps. 

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Posted
  On 1/27/2025 at 4:23 PM, immamac said:

That's also not my fucking problem and is actually a stupid fucking way to do firewall configuration. 

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Agree to disagree.  Blocking Newly Registered Domains is a great way to keep your kindergarten-level employees from getting phished.  Most InfoSec issues I've had around here have newly registered domains involved.  There's a reason a lot of firewall companies filter on this to begin with.

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Posted (edited)
  On 1/27/2025 at 8:54 PM, The Ace of Aces said:

Testing this out. Also we should ban anyone who defends Nazis, just saying.

https://surlyx.com/DropPopNet/status/1883300817807224872

Edit: that didn't work ... let's try this 

surlyx.com/DropPopNet/status/1883300817807224872

Double edit: I give up trying 

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https://surlyx.com/DropPopNet/status/1883300817807224872 does that work?

 

how about https://surlyx.com/DropPopNet/status/1883300817807224872[/img]

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1883300817807224872 

 

Seems to be something in UBlock that's killing the script that converts it...

 

EDIT: To work with uBlock Origin on Chrome, add surlyhorns.com and www.surlyhorns.com to your trusted sites.

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Posted
  On 1/27/2025 at 11:17 PM, Captain Ron said:

Btw - some corporate firewalls block new domains as well. So that might break this. FYI. 

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LOL I even have my home network block new domains, as well as 90% of marketing fluff/spam, and a shitload of known bad acting sites.

Guess I will have to whitelist surlyx.com hahaha or wait

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I can serve the images under surlyx.surlyhorns.com if that helps

also I've found the easiest way to do this is actually just go to the url and then copy/past the redirect image address it spits out in the address bar tweetimg/12345686.webp or something

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Man, is there not a way to post the image then click on said image and have it pull up X?  The videos are being embedded with no link to the original post which makes it pointless to embed videos altogether.  I understand trying to boost performance, but the cost here is user experience.

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  On 1/28/2025 at 2:22 PM, PvilleStang said:

Man, is there not a way to post the image then click on said image and have it pull up X?  The videos are being embedded with no link to the original post which makes it pointless to embed videos altogether.  I understand trying to boost performance, but the cost here is user experience.

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I'll work on embedding the videos directly if they are video posts instead of images or text. 

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The surlyx thing is 150 fucking million times better than Twitter embeds. Mainly because I can actually see them at work versus Twitter, which is blocked. The recruiting threads make sense now. Thanks @immamac, great feature.

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