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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:47 PM, Sal said:

I disagree to some extent. The 2003-2009 era teams were all fun to watch and well balanced on offense. It seems like hindsight or selective memory to not have enjoyed watching Ford, Augustin, Durant, PJ Tucker, and Aldridge on offense. Obviously the offenses declined over time into a slower, ball control version of what we did before, which is why it wasn't fun. But go back and watch the 2003 Elite 8 and Final Four games, and y'all will see what I mean. 

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I wonder how much of those years success were Barnes system versus having two NBA point guards on roster?

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:46 PM, Sgt. Slaughter said:

His team this year was terrible at the beginning of the season and, as Tech seems to do under Beard, they found an identity and became a tough team to beat. I think he’s actually been a victim of his own success and has lost his top player to the draft after each season, most of those guys being under the radar recruits he developed pretty rapidly and made them legitimate NBA prospects. He moved up the board this year and actually pulled in a 5 star, I forget his name, and the kid never bought in to the philosophy and left the program.

I think he’s getting to the point where he can recruit a higher-caliber of player at Tech, the biggest obstacle will be getting those kids to want to play a gritty style of basketball.

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That's the issue for any coach who finds success with his system, trying to find big time recruits who will buy in. Fans want 5 stars but yhey aren't always willing to play the style coach has implemented successfully.

Jay Wright has talked about this quite a bit.

 

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:36 PM, Huckleberry said:

The issue is he also has multiple absurd upsets. Strong teams that limit possessions make themselves more vulnerable to being upset. If you're the better team then you want more possessions to limit fluke results. But if your team is trained to play a style that results in fewer possessions then you can't just flip the switch when you're the much stronger roster. It's a genuine issue.

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You’re right! Let’s go hire the coach that won’t lose. 

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There’s genuine issues with every coach. Get a coach that has an identity and will recruit the right guys for his system and we will win. Shaka didn’t have an identity and recruited random guys. If Greg brown and sims aren’t the right guys to run havoc then who the fuck is? 

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:49 PM, crash_davis said:

I wonder how much of those years success were Barnes system versus having two NBA point guards on roster?

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System still plays a role. Would a lesser coach like Shaka gotten as much out of them? 

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:35 PM, Huckleberry said:

Imagine you graduated and then went to work at small schools and then spent 10 years in Lubbock and then went to more small schools and then went back to Lubbock and then your alma mater the University of Texas called and said hey come home and also work in Austin in a brand new facility.

I'm not saying he'll definitely take it but acting surprised that he's open to discussion is strange. And it's not just you, of course.

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I just thought he seemed to be ingrained at tech and really happy there.  obviously, it's hard to turn down your alma mater but with the way he seems to feel about tech i think some would be a bit surprised to see him leave for a conference rival.

obviously, i hope it happens!

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:58 PM, Lonestar88 said:

Whoever we hire, I’m giving them a pass on their first season, that roster is going to be a dumpster fire.

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Unless they hit the portal HARD, same.  That is gonna be UGLY. 

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:50 PM, Rockethorn1978 said:

You’re right! Let’s go hire the coach that won’t lose. 

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:52 PM, Rockethorn1978 said:

There’s genuine issues with every coach. Get a coach that has an identity and will recruit the right guys for his system and we will win. Shaka didn’t have an identity and recruited random guys. If Greg brown and sims aren’t the right guys to run havoc then who the fuck is? 

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No shit there are issues with every system. Comprehend more, post less. 

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Posted
  On 3/26/2021 at 4:58 PM, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I'm hearing there's a lot of support among administration and BMD for Brad Brownell. A self described defense minded tactician, Brownell has a rapidly growing group of supporters in Austin. 

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The same Brad Brownell who has taken Clemson to 3 NCAA tournaments in 11 years?

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  On 3/26/2021 at 4:42 PM, crash_davis said:

it was raised earlier but Beard is set to make $5.1M next year at Tech. We'll have to beat that and then some. Is Texas going to pay more for a bball coach than the football coach? Is Texas willing to pay $6-7M/year for a bball coach?

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I'd posit that Beard ain't leaving for that amount.  If given a chance to match, Tech has the donors to make it happen.

True enough, he might leave regardless.  I'd be very surprised if he did, unless it is for a Duke/ Kentucky/ UNC type job.

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i haven't read the deluge of comments yet but what has been said about alabama's coach?  good job at buffalo, brought football state school up the ranks quite quickly.  think he just got an extension. 

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(Inside Texas) Coaching Hot Board: Basketball Edition
 

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  On 3/26/2021 at 5:12 PM, sidis said:

i haven't read the deluge of comments yet but what has been said about alabama's coach?  good job at buffalo, brought football state school up the ranks quite quickly.  think he just got an extension. 

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Nate Oats is awesome.

His buyout is exhorbitantly high.

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  On 3/26/2021 at 5:13 PM, Machinator said:

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Ya Indiana would have to pay a buyout that's 2 mil less...but they also just paid 10-11 mil to get off of Archie

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  On 3/26/2021 at 5:12 PM, sidis said:

i haven't read the deluge of comments yet but what has been said about alabama's coach?  good job at buffalo, brought football state school up the ranks quite quickly.  think he just got an extension. 

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Oats (fuck we should have had him 2 years ago...stilll angry) has a new buyout.  Way too expensive.  

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  On 3/26/2021 at 5:14 PM, The Dog said:

Oats' buyout is $12.5 million. Only the blue bloods will go after him IMHO.

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  On 3/26/2021 at 5:15 PM, Js1 said:

It's 12.5 million this year.

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reroute my $250 trefiidy lifetime donation from earlier this week to this effort instead.

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  On 3/26/2021 at 5:13 PM, Machinator said:

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Arizona said recently they weren't making a change.

Unless the NCAA investigation goes to shit for them, but by then, it'd be too late. 

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Roy-al I-Vey , clap clap - clap clap.

I have no informed opinion on the subject, but in the pantheon of all time favorite Horns across all sports, Royal would be pretty high on my list. 

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Posted
  On 3/26/2021 at 5:17 PM, 4th&Five said:

Based on a couple articles I've read the oldest goes to Columbia and the other two are in HS in Abilene.

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So a 2.5 hour drive from Lubbock or a 3.5 hour drive from Austin.  He'd still be close enough to most of his kids.  

Get him a driver(no Tiger) and consult with Phillip Rivers on how to buy the best work-sleep limo/Madden Cruiser.

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