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  On 3/20/2025 at 3:33 PM, freyguy said:

temper expectations.  We are currently transitioning from the Charlie Strong phase, to the Tom Herman phase of our basketball program....

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Well to be truthful someone's Temper led us to this moment.  And he coaches at Old Miss...  wah... wah...

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  On 3/20/2025 at 4:43 PM, VonZipper said:

I'm going to get flamed for this, but I'd like to see Greg McDermott in burnt orange!  His teams actually run plays and he seems to get the most from his players.  He's been in the Big East for a number of years and Creighton has recruited some quality players.

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UT had a top 10 pick, he wasn't playing 'set plays' 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 5:25 PM, horn4life said:

Well to be truthful someone's Temper led us to this moment.  And he coaches at Old Miss...  wah... wah...

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I tend to think of it as a combination of more alcohol than wise, and poor choice in female companionship. Well, long-term female companionship. I mean, "Randi" is right next to "Tiffany" on the Hot/Crazy Matrix.

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:03 PM, Tex Long said:

I tend to think of it as a combination of more alcohol than wise, and poor choice in female companionship. Well, long-term female companionship. I mean, "Randi" is right next to "Tiffany" on the Hot/Crazy Matrix.

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I know people in Chris's circle.  They definitely thought Randi could ruin him.  I don't believe Chris was drinking that night.  I'd bet Randi may have been !!!

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Is he officially fired? We know he is going to be but no one else but chip has really reported it. CDC usually has someone lined up already but anybody we would want would be in the tournament I assume so surprised about this early of a firing.

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:20 PM, TexasExe14 said:

Is he officially fired? We know he is going to be but no one else but chip has really reported it. CDC usually has someone lined up already but anybody we would want would be in the tournament I assume so surprised about this early of a firing.

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This feels like it could be a Pierce type situation, where he knows he’s fired but we won’t know officially until CDC has his guy

But Goodman made it seem like the firing is gonna happen first 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:20 PM, TexasExe14 said:

Is he officially fired? We know he is going to be but no one else but chip has really reported it. CDC usually has someone lined up already but anybody we would want would be in the tournament I assume so surprised about this early of a firing.

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Hi Rodney!

If Jeff Goodman is reporting it, then yes, you’re fired.

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Can somebody explain why some are so negative about Sean Miller?

The only time he's struggled is at the end of his Arizona tenure when they were in hot water with the NCAA (his doing of course). His floor is NCAA tournament caliber teams and with Arizona-type talent he can probably get you to some Elite 8s/further. 

Ramp up NIL with Sean Miller seems far from a bad hire. 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:34 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

Can somebody explain why some are so negative about Sean Miller?

The only time he's struggled is at the end of his Arizona tenure when they were in hot water with the NCAA (his doing of course). His floor is NCAA tournament caliber teams and with Arizona-type talent he can probably get you to some Elite 8s/further. 

Ramp up NIL with Sean Miller seems far from a bad hire. 

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He's a floor hire.

Which, if its down to keeping RT or hiring Miller, I am fine with Miller + NIL. 

I just think we can do better. 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:35 PM, Js1 said:

He's a floor hire.

Which, if its down to keeping RT or hiring Miller, I am fine with Miller + NIL. 

I just think we can do better. 

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Maybe but man I don't see it just as a "floor" hire.

Miller has made 4 elite 8s and the second weekend 7 times. He's more than capable of being more than a "floor" hire with talent. 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:37 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

Maybe but man I don't see it just as a "floor" hire.

Miller has made 4 elite 8s and the second weekend 7 times. He's more than capable of being more than a "floor" hire with talent. 

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I'm trying to think of a football equivalent. James Franklin? He'd win games here for sure, but would be met with a big meh. 

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Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 1:34 PM, D3zii said:

Hey before Beard came to Texas he was unproven at Little Rock and smaller schools and took Tech to a final four. 

sometimes a gamble could be worth the risk

I would love Jay Wright also

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So let Little Rock hire Ivey. The fuck is wrong with you?

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Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 6:05 PM, Im_smarter_then_you said:

I know people in Chris's circle.  They definitely thought Randi could ruin him.  I don't believe Chris was drinking that night.  I'd bet Randi may have been !!!

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I don’t think Beard did much wrong that night. He made the grave error of ever engaging that crazy chick who isn’t that hot anyway. 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:39 PM, Red Five said:

I'm trying to think of a football equivalent. James Franklin? He'd win games here for sure, but would be met with a big meh. 

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I think Miller is a good coach.

Xavier had not made the tournament in 4 years prior to Miller. They were dogshit. Also, Miller would be a much more sexier pick if not for devastating injuries over the last couple of years. 

Last year's Xavier team was probably a 2nd weekend team if not for Freemantle's season-ending injury. This year's Xavier team would have likely been a top-25 caliber team if not for Traore's season ending injury. They've had some terrible injury luck. 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:37 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

Maybe but man I don't see it just as a "floor" hire.

Miller has made 4 elite 8s and the second weekend 7 times. He's more than capable of being more than a "floor" hire with talent. 

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I don’t see a great deal of difference between Beard and Miller. Miller is a massive upgrade over Terry. Massive. 

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Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 6:45 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Miller is a massive upgrade over Terry. Massive. 

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That's really the thing.

If the coach is an upgrade over RT - I'm happy. 

And CDC has some leeway with this hire, considering his other non-RT hires.

But man, the candidates that are an upgrade over RT is a long fucking list.

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:39 PM, Red Five said:

I'm trying to think of a football equivalent. James Franklin? He'd win games here for sure, but would be met with a big meh. 

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I don't know about football but I view Sean Miller much like Rick Barnes. Based purely on resume, not style of play.

Will always have good teams but can he maximize that into final 4 caliber teams? Not sure, but I think we could do much worse. Ramping up NIL with Sean Miller seems far from a bad hire. 

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Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 1:56 PM, Brian Fantana said:

If y'all think it's above the university's image or whatever to hire Will Wade you sure as hell aren't hiring Pitino. Plus he's old as dirt and probably wants to stay in his home state.

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And a St. John billionaire has announced he will buy Rick all the players he wants

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  On 3/20/2025 at 6:37 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

Maybe but man I don't see it just as a "floor" hire.

Miller has made 4 elite 8s and the second weekend 7 times. He's more than capable of being more than a "floor" hire with talent. 

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I don't mean it in a bad way, just on the scale of "competent upgrade over RT who will win games" and "sexy fucking hire of a big name, like Oates or Donovan", he's in the former category.  And that's fine, because Texas needs a competent upgrade. 

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Bobby Burton

 

On Texas Football continues to maintain that basketball coach Rodney Terry has coached his last game at Texas despite reports that there is a remote possibility that Terry could still keep his job.

There are many things to consider as we wait for resolution.

But first and foremost is the modus operandi of Texas athletic director Chris Del Conte and the timing of how how he fires and hires coaches.

For example, consider the timing of CDC's hirings of the two highest profile coaches at Texas - Steve Sarkisian and Jim Schlossnagle.

Tom Herman was officially fired on Jan. 2, 2021. Steve Sarkisian was hired later that same day, on Jan. 2, 2021.

As for Schlossnagle, previous Texas baseball coach David Pierce was informed he would not be retained on June 24, 2024. Just one day later, Schlossnagle was hired, on June 25.

In other words, during high-profile hirings, Del Conte's m.o. is crystal clear. He likes to do things cleanly, moving from one head coach to another with immediacy. As one source put it, CDC and Texas do not want to do anything considered merely "patchwork". They want a replacement ready to go prior to releasing the other head coach.

A different source told us much the same thing, that "Rodney Terry is the head coach until he's not the head coach."

So where does that leave us with potential replacements?

One source said Atlanta Hawks coach Quinn Snyder recently told Texas that he had no interest in returning to the college game. OTF has also been told that a lack of prolonged head coaching experience will be hard to overcome for Texas-Ex Royal Ivey, who is currently an assistant with the Houston Rockets.

Names thought to be under consideration and potentially attainable include Sean Miller of Xavier and Tommy Lloyd of Arizona. There is a long list of even higher profile coaches Texas will likely inquire through agents, too.

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  On 3/20/2025 at 1:58 PM, TrashMaster G said:

Oh, give it a rest. It was a singular situation.

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If Texas continues to be concerned with how the press and other outsiders might view a basketball hire, if said hire is consistent with the Texas brand, or if it is a grand enough hire, then it’s has the potential to be a recurring situation. If a smart, young coach, has a demonstrated ability to construct a roster in an unstable environment, to lead that roster through the required forming, storming, norm ing and performing in short order, and then coach that roster to sustained success, that coach deserves serious consideration and should not be dismissed out of hand because he’s not a household name.

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Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 4:15 PM, Steelers Roll Left said:

Rick Neuheisel on Satellite’s College Sports Radio.  Was claiming “intel from Chip Brown” (I know……), but since I haven’t heard this anywhere else, who knows?

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  On 3/20/2025 at 4:20 PM, Red Five said:

Hurley is probably Bohls' "long shot" candidate. I encourage thinking big on these things but that seems pretty implausible. 

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Chip has been telling people it’s Miller. I personally didn’t buy it. If he actually is now mentioned Hurley, I find that interesting, because that’s the name I heard months ago. 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 7:10 PM, Dbeasy said:

 

Chip has been telling people it’s Miller. I personally didn’t buy it. If he actually is now mentioned Hurley, I find that interesting, because that’s the name I heard months ago. 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 7:12 PM, Pancho said:

2x NC Hurley who also turned down the Lakers yet would take the Texas job?

 

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Why would you want to coach LeBron knowing that you have no control over the locker room, personnel, and if he wants you fired, you're fired. 

Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 6:34 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

Can somebody explain why some are so negative about Sean Miller?

The only time he's struggled is at the end of his Arizona tenure when they were in hot water with the NCAA (his doing of course). His floor is NCAA tournament caliber teams and with Arizona-type talent he can probably get you to some Elite 8s/further. 

Ramp up NIL with Sean Miller seems far from a bad hire. 

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Only making it out of the first round 5 out of 12 seasons is pretty underwhelming when he was able to hand Adidas a shopping list of recruits

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Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 7:06 PM, Js1 said:

I don't mean it in a bad way, just on the scale of "competent upgrade over RT who will win games" and "sexy fucking hire of a big name, like Oates or Donovan", he's in the former category.  And that's fine, because Texas needs a competent upgrade. 

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The only coach I've seen mentioned that I view as a for sure upgrade over Sean Miller is Oates. 

Donovan is probably a better coach than Miller but he also hasn't been around the college game in over a decade. I would have some apprehension with Donovan knowing how to navigate NIL and other parts of recruiting. Maybe I'm overthinking this.

I guess my biggest point is I bet people on this board would view Lloyd as a much better hire than Sean Miller which seems wild to me. Miller has accomplished much more. 

 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 7:15 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

Donovan is probably a better coach than Miller but he also hasn't been around the college game in over a decade. I would have some apprehension with Donovan knowing how to navigate NIL and other parts of recruiting. Maybe I'm overthinking this.

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Wouldn't you just hire a GM with Donovan to handle that? 

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  On 3/20/2025 at 7:15 PM, DanRydell said:

Only making it out of the first round 5 out of 12 seasons is pretty underwhelming when he was able to hand Adidas a shopping list of recruits

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Kind of like he would be able to do with NIL at Texas if we prioritized it?

Texas fans would take 3 Elite 8s, 5 2nd weekend appearances, and 5 conference championships in a heartbeat. Please give us the results that Miller produced at Arizona. 

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Posted
  On 3/20/2025 at 7:15 PM, DanRydell said:

Only making it out of the first round 5 out of 12 seasons is pretty underwhelming

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Lloyd has similar red flags with a smaller NCAA tournament resume - he's been a #1 seed once and a #2 seed twice and failed to get past the Sweet 16.  The loss to a #15 seed in the 1st round is especially egregious. 

 

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