UT's next basketball coach - discussion/debate

[ztejas 43411]

55 minutes ago, MAUFRAIS said:

I think there are some red flag skanks around Austin from Snyder’s Toros stint.

He also used to have a coke problem. 

Then again, who didn't? 

[Valmy77 13225]

3 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

They are both stopgaps until Baseball season which is our real tradition anyway 

Damn right 

[texashorn13 228]

Grant McCasland.  And before you dismiss the thought, go read his bio.

 

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Defense was the calling card for UNT in 2021-22 as they owned the nation's No. 1 scoring defense.

Lots of overlap with Beard.  McCasland turned down 3mil+ from SMU this past offseason to stay at UNT, waiting for the right job.

Edited December 14, 2022 by texashorn13

[ButtFumble 5164]

1 hour ago, texashorn13 said:

Grant McCasland.  And before you dismiss the thought, go read his bio.

 

Lots of overlap with Beard.  McCasland turned down 3mil+ from SMU this past offseason to stay at UNT, waiting for the right job.

I would take Kevin "Lil Freddy" Kruger or Lil' Ricky Pitino over him

[GeorgetownLaw 131]

 Bruce Weber is available. 😬

[Valmy77 13225]

32 minutes ago, GeorgetownLaw said:

 Bruce Weber is available. 😬

We did manage to lose to his shitty team last year...so why not?

[Js1 85275]

CDC’s track record of WBB, softball and MBB hires tells me we will be happy with the result. But this happening in December and not March means we have 4 months of speculation. 

[GeorgetownLaw 131]

12 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

We did manage to lose to his shitty team last year...so why not?

I know but it was meant as a joke. Our program is wandering in a desert right now. I’m as befuddled as everyone else. 

[Huckleberry 32848]

6 minutes ago, GeorgetownLaw said:

I know but it was meant as a joke. Our program is wandering in a desert right now. I’m as befuddled as everyone else. 

No, our program just moved into the palace located at the oasis but the guy who drove us there shot himself in the dick and can't drive anymore. We are not in the desert but I realize nobody can stop message board melodrama. 

[GeorgetownLaw 131]

13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

No, our program just moved into the palace located at the oasis but the guy who drove us there shot himself in the dick and can't drive anymore. We are not in the desert but I realize nobody can stop message board melodrama. 

Dude, Really struggle with metaphors don’t you?  Only “melodrama” between us in your post. 

[MotownHorn 1759]

You guys think Shaka would come back?

::ducks::

(I'm kidding)

[Valmy77 13225]

9 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

You guys think Shaka would come back?

::ducks::

(I'm kidding)

Rodney Terry has already shown himself capable of going 0-1 in the NCAA tournament, so no need to bring back Shaka.

[LTtxfan 49143]

7 hours ago, texashorn13 said:

Grant McCasland.  And before you dismiss the thought, go read his bio.  Lots of overlap with Beard.  McCasland turned down 3mil+ from SMU this past offseason to stay at UNT, waiting for the right job.

Interesting... Found blurb in "10 Coaches on the Rise in Men’s College Basketball" from Oct 2021

Grant McCasland, North Texas

In five years as a D-I head coach, McCasland has won 20 or more games four times. The lone year he didn’t win 20 games, he won an NCAA tournament game. McCasland also won a national title as a juco coach and won 82% of his games as a D-II coach. The guy is just a winner. A member of Scott Drew’s strong coaching tree, McCasland’s no-middle defense is schemed similarly to how Baylor and Texas Tech have played in recent years, and his teams also run efficient offense in the halfcourt. Star point guard Javion Hamlet graduated from last year’s special team, but expect North Texas to be among the C-USA’s best for as long as McCasland roams the sidelines in Denton.

 

https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/27/ncaa-basketball-top-mid-major-coaches

[Pancho 44707]

Beam just posted his top 5 on IT. Interesting to see Calipari on it. 

 

[hobbes2702 13029]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Beam just posted his top 5 on IT. Interesting to see Calipari on it. 

 

Who else?

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

27 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Interesting... Found blurb in "10 Coaches on the Rise in Men’s College Basketball" from Oct 2021

Grant McCasland, North Texas

In five years as a D-I head coach, McCasland has won 20 or more games four times. The lone year he didn’t win 20 games, he won an NCAA tournament game. McCasland also won a national title as a juco coach and won 82% of his games as a D-II coach. The guy is just a winner. A member of Scott Drew’s strong coaching tree, McCasland’s no-middle defense is schemed similarly to how Baylor and Texas Tech have played in recent years, and his teams also run efficient offense in the halfcourt. Star point guard Javion Hamlet graduated from last year’s special team, but expect North Texas to be among the C-USA’s best for as long as McCasland roams the sidelines in Denton.

 

https://www.si.com/college/2021/10/27/ncaa-basketball-top-mid-major-coaches

Honestly don't mind that at all.  Obviously has TX recruiting ties.  Also, fuck Scott Drew with a pineapple.

[Brothahorn 10087]

Coach K

Austin already has it's quotas of Rat Face fucks.

[Loop 1604 227]

13 hours ago, ztejas said:

He also used to have a coke problem. 

Then again, who didn't? 

Most people?

[Loop 1604 227]

We should hire that ACU coach Golding

[Pancho 44707]

25 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Who else?

1. Oats

2. Calipari

3. Lloyd

4. Muss

5. Royal

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

3 minutes ago, Loop 1604 said:

We should hire that ACU coach Golding

At least we know he would beat Marquette in March

[ztejas 43411]

It isn't my money - but paying Calipari $10M a season seems insane to me. He's 63 and has been underachieving with his talent for years now. You might as well just bring Rick back. 

[hobbes2702 13029]

11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

1. Oats

2. Calipari

3. Lloyd

4. Muss

5. Royal

About as expected I’d say. I agree with @ztejas though. I want no part of Calipari

[Pancho 44707]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

About as expected I’d say. I agree with @ztejas though. I want no part of Calipari

Same. 

I think there are better names out there. I think Texas is a stronger job than people think, which is why it’s so baffling to me so many people are pushing Terry for the top spot without understanding context. 

[LongestHorn 759]

On 12/12/2022 at 11:56 AM, The Ace of Aces said:

Eric Musselman would be one of my first calls. 

Hi wife, Danyelle.  So yes.

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

Apparently Oats's wife has Lymphoma.  That might make it hard for him to move anywhere.

[Horn Dog 9816]

How much is Colorado paying Dion Sanders?   He may not know shit about basketball but who gives a shit at this point

[NoName 16351]

1 minute ago, Horn Dog said:

How much is Colorado paying Dion Sanders?   He may not know shit about basketball but who gives a shit at this point

$5.5m in Year 1, $29.5m total across 5 years?

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The contract has Sanders scheduled to earn $5.5 million in his first season, with a base pay of $500,000 supplemented by $1.75 million for radio, television, and public appearances; another $1.75 million for promotion and fundraising; and another $1.5 million for "development of the student-athlete.

another place says Year 1 is actually $5.9m, either way that gives you the range

[Js1 85275]

8 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Apparently Oats's wife has Lymphoma.  That might make it hard for him to move anywhere.

3 hours from MD Anderson. 

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

3 hours from MD Anderson. 

but a lot more stress to take over a new program rather than run the existing one.  Either way, I hope his wife makes a full recovery, that shit is awful.

[TejasPedro 1857]

I just want us to go after a real Coach a real ass kicker one that fucks, and one that is going to fight tooth and nail.

[Hookem2147 21194]

3 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

one that is going to fight tooth and nail.

[Lowcountry Hog 266]

22 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

That said, I don't think Muss will retire at Arkansas. 

If Muss leaves it is for UCLA or Arizona IMO.  

[Burt Macklin 19020]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Same. 

I think there are better names out there. I think Texas is a stronger job than people think, which is why it’s so baffling to me so many people are pushing Terry for the top spot without understanding context. 

Are people actually pushing for that? I haven’t seen anyone actually widgets it, but it would be a monumentally stupid take if they are. 
 

I definitely think Oats and Muschamp are the most obvious if we could get them. After that, you have promising guys at small schools, but they’re pretty unproven and CDC certainly seems to target coaches who have already proven themselves at the P5 level. 

[Lowcountry Hog 266]

18 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Don't entertain this argument from some random pig fan.  Musselman may or may not be interested in a move, but if he isn't, it's not because Arkansas is some holy grail of college basketball destinations.  More than likely, he would just want to finish the job, which he is a long way from doing, and soon he is going to have to COMPETE with us.

Goodness.  Imagine thinking Arkansas is concerned about having to compete with Texas in basketball.  Let's check the historical record, shall we?  87-68 pork.  

If Muss is leaving it is for the West Coast, not some school that just built an arena that holds 11K and is more concerned about spring football than basketball.  

 

[Pancho 44707]

2 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Are people actually pushing for that? I haven’t seen anyone actually widgets it, but it would be a monumentally stupid take if they are. 
 

I definitely think Oats and Muschamp are the most obvious if we could get them. After that, you have promising guys at small schools, but they’re pretty unproven and CDC certainly seems to target coaches who have already proven themselves at the P5 level. 

[Lowcountry Hog 266]

5 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

definitely think Oats and Muschamp are the most obvious if we could get them.

Pretty much why Muss will have no interest in UT.  The fanbase mistakes him for a knuckledragging, mouthbreathing football defensive coordinator who couldn't manage his own program at two different SEC programs, including Florida.  

[jimmyjazz 45887]

3 minutes ago, Lowcountry Hog said:

Goodness.  Imagine thinking Arkansas is concerned about having to compete with Texas in basketball.  Let's check the historical record, shall we?  87-68 pork.  

Outstanding take.  How are things looking right now?  Had Beard not fucked up, Texas was passing Arkansas in the HOV lane.  The question isn't whether a given coach might do as well as Beard appeared to be doing, it's whether a given coach can upgrade from his current position, and rest assured UT is a far better position than Arkansas going forward.

[Horn Dog 9816]

46 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

I just want us to go after a real Coach a real ass kicker one that fucks, and one that is going to fight tooth and nail.

Yea...  one that strangles the life out of the competition!

[Burt Macklin 19020]

1 minute ago, Lowcountry Hog said:

Pretty much why Muss will have no interest in UT.  The fanbase mistakes him for a knuckledragging, mouthbreathing football defensive coordinator who couldn't manage his own program at two different SEC programs, including Florida.  

I guess Arkansas has to be a basketball school now since they haven’t won shit in football for about 6 decades. Doesn’t mean you’re a good basketball school, but you are a basketball school. 

[Lowcountry Hog 266]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

and rest assured UT is a far better position than Arkansas going forward

Is that with or without Rodney Terry calling the shots?  

 

Texas has never been in a better position than Arkansas in basketball.  Ever.  Not now.  Not during your boy Tommy Penders' ERA where Nolan routinely worked him like a rented mule.  And not in the future.  Congrats on UT having some NIL set up for basketball.  You don't think Arkansas does?  How do you think we have 4 first rounders on the squad who wasn't on campus a year ago?  How do you think we signed a 5* out of Colorado coming in next year?  

[Lowcountry Hog 266]

1 minute ago, Burt Macklin said:

5 minutes ago, Lowcountry Hog said:

 

I guess Arkansas has to be a basketball school now since they haven’t won shit in football for about 6 decades. Doesn’t mean you’re a good basketball school, but you are a basketball school. 

I'd quibble with being a "good basketball school" because we are.  But the football program sucks hind tit, no doubt.  I look forward to Texas joining the SEC so our schedule eases up.  

[cafe society 2860]

McCasland is a damn good coach.  So is Joe Pasternack at UC Santa Barbara.  If you don't like coaches from smaller conferences and miss on Oats and Mussellman, throw a Hail Mary at Jay Wright.  I know he's Philly through and through, and   I've been told by friends in Philly that he will only come out of retirement if the Sixers come calling - and only with a truckoad of $$$ - but he might not hate NIL so much if he had the NIL Death Star at his disposal.

[ztejas 43411]

4 minutes ago, Lowcountry Hog said:

not some school that just built an arena that holds 11K and is more concerned about spring football than basketball.  

 

Implying that Arkansas cares more about basketball than football is fucking hysterical. As is the continued "arena seating capacity" flex. 

[jimmyjazz 45887]

1 minute ago, Lowcountry Hog said:

Is that with or without Rodney Terry calling the shots?  

Stupid question.  We're talking about Muss and whether he'd make the move if offered.

 

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Texas has never been in a better position than Arkansas in basketball.  Ever.  Not now.  Not during your boy Tommy Penders' ERA where Nolan routinely worked him like a rented mule.  And not in the future.  Congrats on UT having some NIL set up for basketball.  You don't think Arkansas does?  How do you think we have 4 first rounders on the squad who wasn't on campus a year ago?  How do you think we signed a 5* out of Colorado coming in next year?  

LOL.  OK, pig.  Sooie.  

[Lowcountry Hog 266]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Implying that Arkansas cares more about basketball than football is fucking hysterical. As is the continued "arena seating capacity" flex.

I wouldn't say UA and the fans care more about basketball than football, but they care just as much.  How else do you think we drew as many as we did during the years of the 3rd level of Dante's Inferno that was Stan Health, John Pelphrey and Mike Anderson?  

[Valmy77 13225]

1 minute ago, cafe society said:

McCasland is a damn good coach.  

From what I have seen so far this guy seems like the guy we need. Rising superstar and a Texas guy. Granted not a UT guy so there is that.

And unlike us he can beat Purdue in the NCAA tournament.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

17 minutes ago, Lowcountry Hog said:

Is that with or without Rodney Terry calling the shots?  

 

Texas has never been in a better position than Arkansas in basketball.  Ever.  Not now.  Not during your boy Tommy Penders' ERA where Nolan routinely worked him like a rented mule.  And not in the future.  Congrats on UT having some NIL set up for basketball.  You don't think Arkansas does?  How do you think we have 4 first rounders on the squad who wasn't on campus a year ago?  How do you think we signed a 5* out of Colorado coming in next year?  

A nerve was hit

[Kormit The Frug 134]

34 minutes ago, Lowcountry Hog said:

Is that with or without Rodney Terry calling the shots?  

 

Texas has never been in a better position than Arkansas in basketball.  Ever.  Not now.  Not during your boy Tommy Penders' ERA where Nolan routinely worked him like a rented mule.  And not in the future.  Congrats on UT having some NIL set up for basketball.  You don't think Arkansas does?  How do you think we have 4 first rounders on the squad who wasn't on campus a year ago?  How do you think we signed a 5* out of Colorado coming in next year?  

No one gives a fuck about Arkansas. Not now, not ever. In fact when most people try to name all 50 states, Arkansas is the one they forget. Fuck you and fuck Arkansas. 

[Red Five 40838]

Have they finished picking up the pieces of Hogs from the Moody court yet? You don’t often see a beatdown like that, from a supposed basketball school.